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Posted by: rancido, August 19, 2023, 8:03pm
I'm amazed nobody hasn't already started an attendance thread so I thought I would " stir the pot ". I , personally thought it was good and great to see a large away contingent helping to swell the takings pot.
Posted by: ginnywings, August 19, 2023, 8:07pm; Reply: 1
The attendance was mid table at best.
Posted by: 140381 (Guest), August 19, 2023, 8:14pm; Reply: 2
It’s just like the attendance from last season. Same old Hurst. All summer to sort the attendance and we’re back to square one. Really should have solved our attendance problem by now.
Posted by: chaos33, August 19, 2023, 8:15pm; Reply: 3
Typical Town. We’ve just sat back after starting with a good attendance and let other clubs just bring who they want. The owners need to get their head out the sand. We should be getting 9k every game. We’ve wasted a million pounds not getting capacity crowds and just let others decide for themselves whether to watch or not. Please shoot me in the face as my life is a relentless pursuit of cretinous, deranged and angry f*ckwittery.
Posted by: It Bites, August 19, 2023, 8:21pm; Reply: 4
😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
Posted by: HerveJosse, August 19, 2023, 8:30pm; Reply: 5
Not sure what this thread is about other then some expression of pleasure from those that are desperate for nothing of much significance to change at their club. We are 14 days into the season and had 5 games all in easy travelling distance and despite hardly sparking fair have sold out 95 percent  plus of home capacity across the three home games and taken 3000 fans on a 150 mile round away trip . Until the clubs ambition catches up with the potential we are just being left behind.

Does that make up for the lack of a thread?
Posted by: moosey_club, August 19, 2023, 8:31pm; Reply: 6
It is a bit of conundrum though....compared to the Wimbledon game.....700 more in the away end....but 100 less on the overall  attendance ?
Has the home gate dropped that much already?
Posted by: HerveJosse, August 19, 2023, 8:52pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from moosey_club
It is a bit of conundrum though....compared to the Wimbledon game.....700 more in the away end....but 100 less on the overall  attendance ?
Has the home gate dropped that much already?


Only two turnstiles open in upper today 10 minutes before kick off queue was back to Pontoon stewards stressed I took the opportunity to test the scanning which I have always been sceptical about covered the qr code with my thumb and was waived through as usual.
Posted by: Spurn boy, August 19, 2023, 9:11pm; Reply: 8
Six coach loads of Mansfield fans stopped off in Brigg on the way to BP today and I’m fairly sure the landlords of all the pubs in Brigg appreciated the amount of money they spent whilst there.
Posted by: moosey_club, August 19, 2023, 9:21pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from HerveJosse


Only two turnstiles open in upper today 10 minutes before kick off queue was back to Pontoon stewards stressed I took the opportunity to test the scanning which I have always been sceptical about covered the qr code with my thumb and was waived through as usual.


Got to the ground about 2.45....the queue for upper stretched from the centre turnstiles,  past the ticket office, up Imperial Ave to the first house...Pontoon queue was only  to the first house but still only the one gate (two turnstiles) open.  
Posted by: HerveJosse, August 19, 2023, 9:31pm; Reply: 10
Do the maths 2000 in the upper two turnstiles spread over say an hour that’s one scanned every 3 and half seconds per turnstile . I don’t think so.
Posted by: Manchester Mariner, August 19, 2023, 10:36pm; Reply: 11
Attendance aside, anyone else already furious about next years financial accounts getting filed?
Posted by: lukeo, August 20, 2023, 3:36am; Reply: 12
Apparently a fair few turnstile staff didn't turn up for work today according to the commentator
Posted by: DB, August 20, 2023, 6:37am; Reply: 13
Only 2 out of 4 turnstiles were open in the Findus. As for the attendance of 7100 I thought was poor. For some reason, it is hard to check the away attendance, so assuming it was 1,100 ( although probably more given it was a sell-out) it means that the home attendance would be around 6,000.

The sun was shining and the weather warm, we had just beaten Salford, at home a few nights earlier so, to me, the scene was set for a good crowd turnout. Whether it's the holiday season, I don't know but I do wonder how many non-season ticket holders were there.
Posted by: lukeo, August 20, 2023, 7:06am; Reply: 14
Quoted from DB
Only 2 out of 4 turnstiles were open in the Findus. As for the attendance of 7100 I thought was poor. For some reason, it is hard to check the away attendance, so assuming it was 1,100 ( although probably more given it was a sell-out) it means that the home attendance would be around 6,000.

The sun was shining and the weather warm, we had just beaten Salford, at home a few nights earlier so, to me, the scene was set for a good crowd turnout. Whether it's the holiday season, I don't know but I do wonder how many non-season ticket holders were there.

Agree with you here. I like to flick onto the ticket page from time to time and I was surprised how many seats were still available in the osmond come Saturday lunchtime.
Posted by: Mappers, August 20, 2023, 8:16am; Reply: 15
We had sold 7700 total by kick - off . So either 600 didn't turn up or/and it was due to this turnstile issue .

There was a good 500 seats left before kick of though to , It seems more are releasing their seats now  which is a good thing - they must be more tempted by the prize draw .

I am almost certain we will beat last seasons average attendance of 6279 based on that run of games at the back end of the season when quite a few teams will all but fill the away end .

Gillingham should be another good away turnout in a couple of weeks to , I would be tempted if I were the club to revise the plan of giving them the smaller away section as with them flying they may be capable of bringing more than 500 and we are not going to be filling it are we , unless there is a ticket offer ; which has never happened under Stockwood and Pettit .
Posted by: zorro_is_a_Mariner, August 20, 2023, 9:31am; Reply: 16
When you purchase a ticket on your phone does it have to be scanned properly to count towards the attendance.
Posted by: forza ivano, August 20, 2023, 10:39am; Reply: 17
Quoted from HerveJosse


Only two turnstiles open in upper today 10 minutes before kick off queue was back to Pontoon stewards stressed I took the opportunity to test the scanning which I have always been sceptical about covered the qr code with my thumb and was waived through as usual.


absolutely scandalous Hereve! I am shocked and appalled with 1878's laxity and lack of professionalism. When the hell are they ever going to be held to account and given the heave ho? Would never have happened under your mate Fenty's reign
Posted by: GrimRob, August 20, 2023, 4:34pm; Reply: 18
It's worth reminding ourselves what has been agreed next season in the new 5 year deal, which is likely to see a big decrease in travelling fans for some games. ALL midweek games will be shown live and 10 EFL matches will be moved from 3pm on Saturday. 5 out of 24 L1/L2 games will be moved from 3pm. That's probably at least 2 or 3 games at BP which will move from 3pm, more if we are near the top or bottom. There will be more camera angles as well than the current coverage.

I can only see attendances start to drop
Posted by: Mappers, August 20, 2023, 4:46pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from GrimRob
It's worth reminding ourselves what has been agreed next season in the new 5 year deal, which is likely to see a big decrease in travelling fans for some games. ALL midweek games will be shown live and 10 EFL matches will be moved from 3pm on Saturday. 5 out of 24 L1/L2 games will be moved from 3pm. That's probably at least 2 or 3 games at BP which will move from 3pm, more if we are near the top or bottom. There will be more camera angles as well than the current coverage.

I can only see attendances start to drop


Yeah I live 3 and  a half hours away and will still get a season ticket ,but will probably pick and choose the one's that are on TV to miss  - bet there will be others similiar .


Loads of free streams will be available aswell , for the televised games , lets face it you can find one now for most games .

I wonder whether the deal will actually lose lower league clubs money ,or if all the regulars and others team away regulars will keep gates relatively high?

Kick off times might effect quite a lot of people being able to go to certain games to.

Posted by: Yoda, August 20, 2023, 4:50pm; Reply: 20
A lot of fans now without a season ticket don’t bother going.
22 pounds to sit in the main stand or shoved in a corner with a crap view.
No thanks i’ll pass on that one.
There are 4 of us that don’t bother now there must be loads more.
As earlier poster said we should’ve getting 10K for that game at least.
To say the new owners are supposed to be clever they are throwing away thousands every game because of fans not attending.
Posted by: GrimRob, August 20, 2023, 5:28pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Yoda

To say the new owners are supposed to be clever they are throwing away thousands every game because of fans not attending.


They are clever. Virtually every seat is sold, even if people don't come. That's money in the bag. Under the old regime we used to have lots of offers and promotions but they often didn't bring that many extra sales. In this league the season can be all but over with a few weeks still to go. Far better to get most of our revenue in advance.
Posted by: IlkleyMariner, August 20, 2023, 5:37pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Mappers


Yeah I live 3 and  a half hours away and will still get a season ticket ,but will probably pick and choose the one's that are on TV to miss  - bet there will be others similiar .


Loads of free streams will be available aswell , for the televised games , lets face it you can find one now for most games .

I wonder whether the deal will actually lose lower league clubs money ,or if all the regulars and others team away regulars will keep gates relatively high?


Kick off times might effect quite a lot of people being able to go to certain games to.



As an excile, and with travelling costs two to three times the cost of a ticket price I am no longer a ST holder and up till last season was quite selective about which games to watch.

Now with decent seats being sold to to ST holders , many of whom don’t go, I’m likely to watch more away fixtures than home. Pity, but that’s a fact of life.
Posted by: Morris Minor, August 20, 2023, 5:37pm; Reply: 23
i-follow has allowed anybody to have the choice to watch every league game each day in the comfort of their own room for approx £40 per year.
I was switching from Grimsby to Wrexham every time a goal went in.
As i-follow is approx 2 mins behind real time if you have the app flashscore on your monitor, you'll never miss a goal hence the switch.
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)



Posted by: It Bites, August 20, 2023, 5:43pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Yoda
A lot of fans now without a season ticket don’t bother going.
22 pounds to sit in the main stand or shoved in a corner with a crap view.
No thanks i’ll pass on that one.
There are 4 of us that don’t bother now there must be loads more.
As earlier poster said we should’ve getting 10K for that game at least.
To say the new owners are supposed to be clever they are throwing away thousands every game because of fans not attending.


10k ? No chance
As for the view in the corner so long as your not near the away fans the view is unspoiled. No posts at all
Posted by: IlkleyMariner, August 20, 2023, 5:45pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Morris Minor
i-follow has allowed anybody to have the choice to watch every league game each day in the comfort of their own room for approx £40 per year.
I was switching from Grimsby to Wrexham every time a goal went in.
As i-follow is approx 2 mins behind real time if you have the app flashscore on your monitor, you'll never miss a goal hence the switch.
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)






Hadn’t realised that. It certainly should make the owners cautious about extending ground capacity and definitely will rule out ground move.

I’ve little doubt that they will improve the ground facilities including more hospitality and posh seats, but can’t see why a capacity of over 10,000 will ever be needed other than on a few occasions which is not an economic case for expansion or relocation


Posted by: chaos33, August 20, 2023, 5:57pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Yoda
A lot of fans now without a season ticket don’t bother going.
22 pounds to sit in the main stand or shoved in a corner with a crap view.
No thanks i’ll pass on that one.
There are 4 of us that don’t bother now there must be loads more.
As earlier poster said we should’ve getting 10K for that game at least.
To say the new owners are supposed to be clever they are throwing away thousands every game because of fans not attending.


BP hasn’t changed. How long have you and your 3 mates not been going?
Posted by: Yoda, August 20, 2023, 6:58pm; Reply: 27
I have been going over 45 years been in some huge crowds at BP not the 5.5k we get now.
Posted by: Knut Anders Fosters Voles, August 20, 2023, 6:59pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Yoda

There are 4 of us that don’t bother now there must be loads more.


I’ve been meaning to tell you this for a while Yoda…

Me
Dave
Stupot

We still go. Every home match. Sometimes away.

We just tell you we don’t anymore so we don’t have to sit there explaining which way we’re playing, which colour kit we’re wearing and how Bisto granules are solid in the tub, not liquid.
Posted by: chaos33, August 20, 2023, 7:01pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Yoda
I have been going over 45 years been in some huge crowds at BP not the 5.5k we get now.


So why don’t you go now? You haven’t actually got a point have you.
Posted by: Knut Anders Fosters Voles, August 20, 2023, 7:07pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from Yoda
I have been going over 45 years been in some huge crowds at BP not the 5.5k we get now.


The only big crowd you’ve been in at BP is in the petrol shortage during the Pandemic.

Trying to freebase four star on the forecourt like a pump sucker.
Posted by: Grantley, August 20, 2023, 7:26pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from Morris Minor
i-follow has allowed anybody to have the choice to watch every league game each day in the comfort of their own room for approx £40 per year.
I was switching from Grimsby to Wrexham every time a goal went in.
As i-follow is approx 2 mins behind real time if you have the app flashscore on your monitor, you'll never miss a goal hence the switch.
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

So you support the club by not giving any money whatsoever and watching half the match unless someone else scores? 😀
Posted by: bradzmilne, August 20, 2023, 9:00pm; Reply: 32
The attendance is one thing…

The atmosphere is another. Really, really poor for such a big gate.
Posted by: HerveJosse, August 20, 2023, 9:09pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from bradzmilne
The attendance is one thing…

The atmosphere is another. Really, really poor for such a big gate.


Well it started off pretty good for the first 10 minutes but our style of play could anaesthetise an elephant
Posted by: thefish, August 20, 2023, 9:10pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from It Bites


10k ? No chance
As for the view in the corner so long as your not near the away fans the view is unspoiled. No posts at all


When you’re the size of Yoda, all areas of the ground are restricted view!

Hard to see the football it is…
Posted by: Heisenberg, August 20, 2023, 10:11pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from bradzmilne
The attendance is one thing…

The atmosphere is another. Really, really poor for such a big gate.


We needed a drum like the away end. It does always add to the experience.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, August 21, 2023, 8:29am; Reply: 36
Quoted from Morris Minor
i-follow has allowed anybody to have the choice to watch every league game each day in the comfort of their own room for approx £40 per year.
I was switching from Grimsby to Wrexham every time a goal went in.
As i-follow is approx 2 mins behind real time if you have the app flashscore on your monitor, you'll never miss a goal hence the switch.
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)




Am guessing that you are around 14 years old and find it hard to keep up with having to buy a Man City, Liverpool or Man Utd kit each year too.

Why on earth you’d want to watch any other game, given the chance, but towns is beyond me
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 21, 2023, 8:55am; Reply: 37
Quoted from HerveJosse


Well it started off pretty good for the first 10 minutes but our style of play could anaesthetise an elephant


Like me you're not the most popular poster on here, but that is correct.

It is very difficult to create an atmosphere when we don't create many chances, we are not on the front foot and like somebody said to me after Saturday they sit in the Pontoon and I can't remember us getting into the box in the second half..

The ground acoustics have been the same for years, but we all have experienced fantastic atmospheres but the football is just so dull at the moment ( and most of last season) it is hard for fans to get excited.

I agree there are things that could be done as well, such as a proper pre match build up with a decent sound system and closing in the corners but pragmatic football is certainly a factor.
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 21, 2023, 9:40am; Reply: 38
Quoted from GrimRob


They are clever. Virtually every seat is sold, even if people don't come. That's money in the bag. Under the old regime we used to have lots of offers and promotions but they often didn't bring that many extra sales. In this league the season can be all but over with a few weeks still to go. Far better to get most of our revenue in advance.


Even better if we then got even more revenue by managing to re-sell unused seats.

The club, to their absolute credit, have tried something with the ticket release scheme.  Got to give it time to see if it works. 3 home games, one of which is a Tuesday night and all three in the summer holidays, is not the time to assess it.

No two ways about it, the atmosphere was dire on Saturday.  It's a bit of give and take for me.  Team needs to get the fans going and vice-versa.  I've also absolutely no idea what is said on the PA system, can't hear anything - it's getting worse.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, August 21, 2023, 10:00am; Reply: 39


Trying to freebase four star on the forecourt like a pump sucker.


Isn't this a lyric from 'Ice, Ice, Baby' ?
Posted by: GrimRob, August 21, 2023, 10:19am; Reply: 40
Quoted from diehardmariner


Even better if we then got even more revenue by managing to re-sell unused seats.

The club, to their absolute credit, have tried something with the ticket release scheme.  Got to give it time to see if it works. 3 home games, one of which is a Tuesday night and all three in the summer holidays, is not the time to assess it.

No two ways about it, the atmosphere was dire on Saturday.  It's a bit of give and take for me.  Team needs to get the fans going and vice-versa.  I've also absolutely no idea what is said on the PA system, can't hear anything - it's getting worse.


The subscription model is the way to go. Lots of companies push it, it brings in regular income and is easier for the consumer as well as they don't have to keep buying the product. It's the way we buy many things now - music, tv, films, phones, newspapers, magazines etc. Pay As You Go is still an option if you prefer that way. They are incentivising the release scheme though, which is the right thing, not sure how much it is being taken up. People who want to buy match tickets I guess will have to keep checking which seats are available if they want to seat in a certain area.
Posted by: bradzmilne, August 21, 2023, 10:33am; Reply: 41


Like me you're not the most popular poster on here, but that is correct.

It is very difficult to create an atmosphere when we don't create many chances, we are not on the front foot and like somebody said to me after Saturday they sit in the Pontoon and I can't remember us getting into the box in the second half..

The ground acoustics have been the same for years, but we all have experienced fantastic atmospheres but the football is just so dull at the moment ( and most of last season) it is hard for fans to get excited.

I agree there are things that could be done as well, such as a proper pre match build up with a decent sound system and closing in the corners but pragmatic football is certainly a factor.


Interesting points.

However, in recent memory some of the best home support I’ve seen has not always correlated with the “best teams”.

Hartlepool always seem to have a vocal home support.
Lincoln frustratingly have impressive vocal support.
Was also impressed with Sutton last season.

I have no idea what the answer is. Particularly as the fans voice opposed the idea of a “singing section”. However, something that needs to be thought about as it is currently poor.  
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 21, 2023, 11:27am; Reply: 42
You say fans opposed the singing section.  It was 40% who said they favoured it but 60% who didn't.  The question was a Yes/No to would you favour one.  

It was discussed before but that isn't 60% who were opposed to it, just 60% who didn't favour it.  The question was too binary, it needed to distinguish those who favoured it, opposed it and generally weren't arsed.

For the life of me I can't think why we wouldn't want a singing section, again I think it's something worth trying to see if it works.  Logistically though I think it's difficult. Only place I could think you can put it now, without running the risk of uprooting existing season ticket holders is the corner in the Osmond.  That way anyone with a ST anywhere could transfer it to there, in theory freeing up the seats in the Pontoon, Lower etc. etc.  Numbers would have to be capped and with the knowledge that sometimes you'll be in the corner, sometimes in the actual Osmond itself (depending on who we're playing).  It would also alleviate fears of anyone who doesn't want to be sat in the middle of a singing section as it's designated and unless you buy a ticket there, you're not in it.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 21, 2023, 12:23pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from bradzmilne


Interesting points.

However, in recent memory some of the best home support I’ve seen has not always correlated with the “best teams”.

Hartlepool always seem to have a vocal home support.
Lincoln frustratingly have impressive vocal support.
Was also impressed with Sutton last season.

I have no idea what the answer is. Particularly as the fans voice opposed the idea of a “singing section”. However, something that needs to be thought about as it is currently poor.  


Yes there are obviously quite a few different reasons and the club as a whole should give some serious consideration to the problem. Usually a successful and winning team generates a good atmosphere but we know that can't always be the case.

This season I have a season ticket in the Upper and can't hear the Pontoon at all, but on Saturday sat in the Pontoon and it was very flat but the other stands basically the same.

Looking at the Pontoon from the Upper it is quite open and stands alone which doesn't help. Whether we should reconfigure the ground and leave the stand alone Pontoon for away fans is perhaps a possibility but until we know what plans they have for the stadium if any, we will have to have short term solutions.
Posted by: EvilFish, August 21, 2023, 12:57pm; Reply: 44
Here's what generally causes a problem with singing in the Pontoon:

1. No perseverance. Lost count of the number of times a chant peters out before it's even got going. No-one sticks with a song long enough to get people to join in. Sometimes it barely gets to the second line...

2. Left and right side sing different songs. I'm in the middle, so maybe the left/right can't hear each other. But often I have to pick a side to join which I think will last the longest. Linked to (1) above - who do I think will keep going?

3. Focus on too many "wordy" songs. The simple ones are always the best as everyone knows the words. I've been going for decades and there are still some songs I haven't a clue what half the mumbled words are. The fish and mariners chants work well because they're easy for everyone to join in.

4. Pace. Jesus Christ. Slow it down a bit. Even on simple chants like the fish chat, it's over before it's started. The drummer needs to get his rhythm sorted too. Way, way too fast. The Mariners chant years ago was much slower. Links in to (1) above - give people a bloody chance to join in!

Yes the football helps if it's exciting (I thought the Mansfield match was pretty good myself - they had a lot of the ball, but it was still a good, open game of football). But in the last 10 years or so, it seems the thing that really gets the crowd going is a terrible refereeing decision. I actually welcome rubbish refs who are seemingly against us - gets the crowd proper riled up and creates a real atmosphere.

Whether closing the sides of the Pontoon would help or not, I don't know. It seems like it might, in terms of containing the sound and getting the whole stand singing together.

Can't say I heard much from the Mansfield fans from where I was sitting.
Posted by: moosey_club, August 21, 2023, 6:39pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from EvilFish
Here's what generally causes a problem with singing in the Pontoon:

1. No perseverance. Lost count of the number of times a chant peters out before it's even got going. No-one sticks with a song long enough to get people to join in. Sometimes it barely gets to the second line...

2. Left and right side sing different songs. I'm in the middle, so maybe the left/right can't hear each other. But often I have to pick a side to join which I think will last the longest. Linked to (1) above - who do I think will keep going?

3. Focus on too many "wordy" songs. The simple ones are always the best as everyone knows the words. I've been going for decades and there are still some songs I haven't a clue what half the mumbled words are. The fish and mariners chants work well because they're easy for everyone to join in.

4. Pace. Jesus Christ. Slow it down a bit. Even on simple chants like the fish chat, it's over before it's started. The drummer needs to get his rhythm sorted too. Way, way too fast. The Mariners chant years ago was much slower. Links in to (1) above - give people a bloody chance to join in!

Yes the football helps if it's exciting (I thought the Mansfield match was pretty good myself - they had a lot of the ball, but it was still a good, open game of football). But in the last 10 years or so, it seems the thing that really gets the crowd going is a terrible refereeing decision. I actually welcome rubbish refs who are seemingly against us - gets the crowd proper riled up and creates a real atmosphere.

Whether closing the sides of the Pontoon would help or not, I don't know. It seems like it might, in terms of containing the sound and getting the whole stand singing together.

Can't say I heard much from the Mansfield fans from where I was sitting.


As previously highlighted in national press....our yoofs are all on the powder so the singing speed is always accelerated.
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, August 21, 2023, 8:12pm; Reply: 46
Since all seater best singing in lower divisions is from big side stands - Lincoln and Mansfield are more vocal than most at home because all the fans that want to sing have no option to go the only decent stand in the ground. County were quite loud relative to the library that Meadow Lane is normally, but they had 10k home fans on and the Kop stand was full.

Best option for BP is build out the Harrington corner as coveted safe standing, connected to the Pontoon, and make it the singing section. At the moment best noise is when Block A of the Upper get going.
Posted by: forza ivano, August 21, 2023, 8:43pm; Reply: 47
Quoted from Yoda
A lot of fans now without a season ticket don’t bother going.
22 pounds to sit in the main stand or shoved in a corner with a crap view.
No thanks i’ll pass on that one.
There are 4 of us that don’t bother now there must be loads more.
As earlier poster said we should’ve getting 10K for that game at least.
To say the new owners are supposed to be clever they are throwing away thousands every game because of fans not attending.


You are so right Yoda. If only someone of your intellect was in charge, rather than 2 blokes who apparently worth half a billion between them
Posted by: DB, August 22, 2023, 2:38am; Reply: 48
Quoted from Limerick Mariner
Since all seater best singing in lower divisions is from big side stands - Lincoln and Mansfield are more vocal than most at home because all the fans that want to sing have no option to go the only decent stand in the ground. County were quite loud relative to the library that Meadow Lane is normally, but they had 10k home fans on and the Kop stand was full.

Best option for BP is build out the Harrington corner as coveted safe standing, connected to the Pontoon, and make it the singing section. At the moment best noise is when Block A of the Upper get going.


I sat there for the Mansfield game and the noise was terrific, and drowned all the other others. Well done to all who sit there.

Posted by: diehardmariner, August 22, 2023, 9:42am; Reply: 49
And yet you couldn't hear a peep on the other side of the ground...

That's the biggest problem, the empty space just kills any noise.

From the Main Stand, once they got going, the Mansfield fans were very loud but that's aided hugely as one side of their stand is connected.   It's not popular, nor really do-able with segregation should we want half the away end of the majority of games.  But the layout of the ground lends itself better to the more open stand (Pontoon) getting used as the away end and the stand with the best acoustics for travelling noise (Osmond) becoming the home end.

I know, I know.  We tried it in the 80's and everyone hated it...
Posted by: Southwark Mariner, August 22, 2023, 9:49am; Reply: 50
Quoted from diehardmariner


I know, I know.  We tried it in the 80's and everyone hated it...



I quite enjoyed the 80s

Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 22, 2023, 12:45pm; Reply: 51
Quoted from diehardmariner
And yet you couldn't hear a peep on the other side of the ground...

That's the biggest problem, the empty space just kills any noise.

From the Main Stand, once they got going, the Mansfield fans were very loud but that's aided hugely as one side of their stand is connected.   It's not popular, nor really do-able with segregation should we want half the away end of the majority of games.  But the layout of the ground lends itself better to the more open stand (Pontoon) getting used as the away end and the stand with the best acoustics for travelling noise (Osmond) becoming the home end.

I know, I know.  We tried it in the 80's and everyone hated it...


I said the same a few posts up and it does make logistical sense if you view the stadium dispassionately.

I wonder (hope) there are more substantive plans in the pipeline that make our musings worthless. We live in hope.
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 22, 2023, 1:14pm; Reply: 52
With the very short-term fixes that have gone into the Main Stand this summer, especially structurally, I'm almost convinced that there's a fairly substantive plan in place which we'll see come to light in the next 12 months.
Posted by: lukeo, August 22, 2023, 4:51pm; Reply: 53
Quoted from diehardmariner
And yet you couldn't hear a peep on the other side of the ground...

That's the biggest problem, the empty space just kills any noise.

From the Main Stand, once they got going, the Mansfield fans were very loud but that's aided hugely as one side of their stand is connected.   It's not popular, nor really do-able with segregation should we want half the away end of the majority of games.  But the layout of the ground lends itself better to the more open stand (Pontoon) getting used as the away end and the stand with the best acoustics for travelling noise (Osmond) becoming the home end.

I know, I know.  We tried it in the 80's and everyone hated it...

I said this 15-20 years ago and got shot down by everyone. But forgetting what it is now and the history, if this stadium was just built and someone said to you "where would you put the away fans"
90%+ of people would say the pontoon. Its sectioned off away from the other stands and access is further away etc. Only downside would be regards away coaches
Posted by: CSLM, August 22, 2023, 9:24pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from lukeo

I said this 15-20 years ago and got shot down by everyone. But forgetting what it is now and the history, if this stadium was just built and someone said to you "where would you put the away fans"
90%+ of people would say the pontoon. Its sectioned off away from the other stands and access is further away etc. Only downside would be regards away coaches


What about when there are only 50 away fans. You gonna segregate the pontoon?

Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, August 22, 2023, 11:08pm; Reply: 55
The main problem with putting away support into the pontoon, is that there are a large number of seats at the back of the osmond with a terrible view

Posted by: lukeo, August 23, 2023, 5:29am; Reply: 56
Quoted from CSLM


What about when there are only 50 away fans. You gonna segregate the pontoon?



No because we wouldn't fill the rest of the ground anyway (at the moment)
Posted by: Croxton, August 23, 2023, 8:53am; Reply: 57
Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
The main problem with putting away support into the pontoon, is that there are a large number of seats at the back of the osmond with a terrible view



And lower down we would be 'Walking in circles, blinded by the sun'
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 23, 2023, 9:27am; Reply: 58
Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
The main problem with putting away support into the pontoon, is that there are a large number of seats at the back of the osmond with a terrible view



If anyone is watching the game through their phone, which is held above their head at that height, then they deserve a excrement view.  ;)

Quoted from lukeo

I said this 15-20 years ago and got shot down by everyone. But forgetting what it is now and the history, if this stadium was just built and someone said to you "where would you put the away fans"
90%+ of people would say the pontoon. Its sectioned off away from the other stands and access is further away etc. Only downside would be regards away coaches


Be just a flip situation of what's going on now.  Away fans are released via the Osmond/Main entrance onto Harrington Street.  Instead they would go have to go onto Harrington Street via the Main/Pontoon entrance, which is actually closer to the coaches anyway.   Fans in the Main would leave via the Main/Osmond entrance or walk through the Osmond as opposed to walking through the Pontoon.

Quoted from CSLM


What about when there are only 50 away fans. You gonna segregate the pontoon?



And that's the biggest barrier. I guess having some sort of facility in one of the Pontoon corners to host those small handfuls would help, with the Pontoon having that flexibility to be offered for individual match tickets - a near flip of the current situation with the Osmond.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 23, 2023, 12:44pm; Reply: 59
I don't understand why some fans think "that's a problem, so that is a no to that suggestion. "

All problems have solutions, often quite simple ones.

It all depends on what the owners' intentions are but if no substantial improvements are in the pipeline there is a lot they can to maximise what we've got with some ingenuity.
Posted by: ska face, August 23, 2023, 1:21pm; Reply: 60
Doesn’t matter where you sit people, what the acoustics are like or whether you’re standing or sitting - problem is the ground is full of miserable old killjoys, geriatrics who spend most of the match moaning about how things were better in the 70s and those who do make an atmosphere are split between groups who want to sing different things.
Posted by: Rick12, August 23, 2023, 1:49pm; Reply: 61
Quoted from chaos33
Typical Town. We’ve just sat back after starting with a good attendance and let other clubs just bring who they want. The owners need to get their head out the sand. We should be getting 9k every game.
Problem is Chaos  £20 plus is a lot to watch a game of football in the bottom basement and even if you get a season ticket some people will have commitments like work and family and for some wives/ girlfriends they hate the football and would prefer their men to spend quality time with them when the time is available.

Better to marry someone that likes football. Problem solved 🙂.
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 23, 2023, 1:50pm; Reply: 62
I don't understand why some fans think "that's a problem, so that is a no to that suggestion. "

All problems have solutions, often quite simple ones.



It's not just the fans of the football club.  I hate saying it but it's a small town mentality.  Nothing changes in Grimsby or the surrounding areas because the people don't want it.  It's far easier to moan about something constantly rather than doing something about it.  People will moan all day and night about a lack of investment in the town, wasted spending by the council, inefficient services etc. yet either vote for the same dross on the local council or not at all.

It's almost as if as a result of years of not having nice, new and exciting developments the population has been gaslight into believing they don't deserve anything nice and find excuses to prevent it.  
Posted by: Madeleymariner, August 23, 2023, 2:09pm; Reply: 63
Quoted from Rick12
Problem is Chaos  £20 plus is a lot to watch a game of football in the bottom basement and even if you get a season ticket some people will have commitments like work and family and for some wives/ girlfriends they hate the football and would prefer their men to spend quality time with them when the time is available.

Better to marry someone that likes football. Problem solved 🙂.


You wish Rick, my wife used to come to any game I went to when we were dating, knew who the players were etc. Once married she has not been to one game and moans on and off about time and money I spend being a Town fan. They are like a turkey farmers at Christmas, they lay down a trail of seed and we go peck peck peck along until suddenly your walking out of the church and (smash) thats it mate     :)
Posted by: Rick12, August 23, 2023, 2:21pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from Madeleymariner


You wish Rick, my wife used to come to any game I went to when we were dating, knew who the players were etc. Once married she has not been to one game and moans on and off about time and money I spend being a Town fan. They are like a turkey farmers at Christmas, they lay down a trail of seed and we go peck peck peck along until suddenly your walking out of the church and (smash) thats it mate     :)
;D

Try to come to a compromise though Madeley eg two games a month is your downtime and then give her two saturdays eg take her her out somewhere nice like the theatre or a meal :).
Posted by: Les Brechin, August 23, 2023, 2:38pm; Reply: 65
I don't understand why some fans think "that's a problem, so that is a no to that suggestion. "

All problems have solutions, often quite simple ones.

It all depends on what the owners' intentions are but if no substantial improvements are in the pipeline there is a lot they can to maximise what we've got with some ingenuity.


I ain't sitting on nobodys knee.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 23, 2023, 3:24pm; Reply: 66
Quoted from Les Brechin


I ain't sitting on nobodys knee.


I hadn't thought of that to be fair, but now you mention it..

Some knees are better than others mind. First come first served!
Posted by: lukeo, August 23, 2023, 4:36pm; Reply: 67
I recently got married and a quote from my better half
" Now you don't play football as much you can go watch Grimsby more can't you? "
Aka f#ck off out for the day so I can read my book and eat dominos to myself.
Posted by: Rick12, August 23, 2023, 5:02pm; Reply: 68
Quoted from lukeo
I recently got married and a quote from my better half
" Now you don't play football as much you can go watch Grimsby more can't you? "
Aka f#ck off out for the day so I can read my book and eat dominos to myself.
Whats she like with the world cups?. Ive found some women who dont like football will watch the world cups and enjoy it .This applied to the women's world cup final as well.
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