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Posted by: GrimRob, March 29, 2023, 6:52pm
The streaming platform DAZN is bidding to show every EFL match live in the UK and across the world in a move that would lead to the Saturday 3pm blackout being ditched.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7b961d28-ce40-11ed-9a78-fca06b87e87b

A game changer if it happens.
Posted by: GrimRob, March 29, 2023, 6:53pm; Reply: 1
If successful — and there is strong competition from rivals — it would mean that all 1,656 matches a season across the Championship, League One and League Two would be screened live. Most of them would remain on Saturdays so the EFL would need to drop the blackout.

That would mean a huge change in how English football is shown on TV. Unlike most European countries, not every match in the Premier League is made available to be watched by domestic viewers and no games can be screened on Saturday afternoons.
Posted by: toontown, March 29, 2023, 7:28pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from GrimRob
If successful — and there is strong competition from rivals — it would mean that all 1,656 matches a season across the Championship, League One and League Two would be screened live. Most of them would remain on Saturdays so the EFL would need to drop the blackout.

That would mean a huge change in how English football is shown on TV. Unlike most European countries, not every match in the Premier League is made available to be watched by domestic viewers and no games can be screened on Saturday afternoons.


I think the massive strength of lower tier football in England owes at least something to the 3pm Saturday blackout, it's a big risk to drop it, because once it's gone it won't be coming back.
Posted by: Heisenberg, March 29, 2023, 7:36pm; Reply: 3
I’d vote #keeptheblackout
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, March 29, 2023, 8:16pm; Reply: 4
Talking about a deal worth about £200M.  Whatever the eventual amount, sure to be front-loaded for Championship teams.
Posted by: golfer, March 29, 2023, 8:42pm; Reply: 5
£8million for each Championship club.- £1.5 million for each Div.1 club    £1 - 43 p for Div 2 clubs.
Posted by: promotion plaice, March 29, 2023, 8:51pm; Reply: 6

Times are changing, so many people with VPN's these days.
Posted by: aldi_01, March 29, 2023, 9:12pm; Reply: 7
Surely this is to capitalise on the market and a way to stop people illegally streaming.

I’m not so sure it would make a massive difference to crowds at our level, and probably not even at championship level. Everyone has become accustomed to football on the TV. I’d argue those that would choose to watch on the TV probably wouldn’t bottom themselves to go anyway…
Posted by: gtfc98, March 29, 2023, 9:17pm; Reply: 8
Wondering how this would impact MarinersTV?
Posted by: lukeo, March 29, 2023, 9:46pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from promotion plaice

Times are changing, so many people with VPN's these days.


Do you want one? 😏
Posted by: BraStrap, March 29, 2023, 10:09pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from gtfc98
Wondering how this would impact MarinersTV?


Live coverage would flip from the clubs to DAZN. You'd buy a subscription and watch games on normal TV or a regular web site/app rather than faffing about with VPNs. We'd still probably get the same pictures and commentary at a guess. I'd have thought your subscription would cover every game like Sky/BT/Amazon, but maybe they will let fans subscribe to just one club's games.
Posted by: Mappers, March 29, 2023, 11:25pm; Reply: 11
No one would be paying for it though would they , there would just be free streams all over the place , like there is now -you can watch every game online for free - nothing  beats being there in person for me .
Posted by: GrimRob, March 30, 2023, 4:43pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Mappers
No one would be paying for it though would they , there would just be free streams all over the place , like there is now -you can watch every game online for free - nothing  beats being there in person for me .


I think Sky Sports has around 10 million paying customers. But I agree it's not like being there, we all know that. The atmosphere is a huge part. Especially with the low standard of offering at our level. One camera angle etc

My biggest concern is that away crowds would dwindle and people would stop going. The game could slowly fizzle out. There is no fighting technology but lower league football could have reached its high tide mark or soon will.
Posted by: OddShapedBalls, March 30, 2023, 4:52pm; Reply: 13
It's all a bit 'adapt or die' I think.  It's coming so we need to get ready early and beat the less prepared clubs.

There's an advantage of opening up to a world market with this too, and having people in Texas and Shanghai buying town shirts etc, plus the fact that advertising will be worth more as more people will see the product, but it'll be a crowded marketplace with 72 clubs all entering at the same time and Wrexham have stolen a big march on everyone else in that regard. Then there's the inevitable dilution of British players in the leagues - some clubs will 100% get in a player from Outer Mongolia because the metrics say they'll get 20,000 views there if they do.

When it happens (money talks, it's gonna happen eventually, i'm resigned to that) those clubs with the best social media teams, inventive content creators and lets be honest success on the pitch will make the most from it I imagine.
Posted by: Gaffer58, March 30, 2023, 6:12pm; Reply: 14
Maybe our owners are aware of these plans, I would assume £1.43 million from tv is more then our gate receipts, so why spend millions on a new stadium when what we have now will be more then adequate in the future, whereas some one like Bradford getting 18k each game probably would still make more money from attendees.
Posted by: Mappers, March 31, 2023, 6:51am; Reply: 15
Quoted from Gaffer58
Maybe our owners are aware of these plans, I would assume £1.43 million from tv is more then our gate receipts, so why spend millions on a new stadium when what we have now will be more then adequate in the future, whereas some one like Bradford getting 18k each game probably would still make more money from attendees.


Not really ,remember Bradford sell their season tickets at pretty much half price to  everyone else so their actual takings would be that of any other team getting 9 or 10k for example  .

I would be more inclined to know if there will be an 'opt out'

Dazn arent exactly doing well ,year on year losses in the billions ; and like i posted before ,a high majority wouldnt be paying for the games .

Surely it would just mean that with all the clubs getting extra they just have to spend more ,and player wages are inflated even more with clubs chasing the dream .

I remember ITV digital
Posted by: queenybantam07, March 31, 2023, 10:40am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Mappers


Not really ,remember Bradford sell their season tickets at pretty much half price to  everyone else so their actual takings would be that of any other team getting 9 or 10k for example  .

I remember ITV digital


Such a misconception is that.

Although our ticket prices are heavily discounted comparative to the rest of the EFL (which should be applauded btw), not all our tickets are. At any given time they increase up to £400.

Commercial revenue pulls in more than £1m per annum (which is a record for any club at this level) - the highest it’s been since our Premier League days, all thanks to higher crowds.

We sell more shirts, pies, beer etc.

Of course there are downsides, for example: our stadium rent is £380k per season before we’ve even kicked a ball. The policing bill for some games are higher than the annual bill of some clubs. But, although we give away our season tickets in Kellogg’s boxes, we’ve only shifted 14,000. We average 17,500, so you do the maths.

Tomorrow, we’ll have 6,000 paying fans - which is becoming the norm most weeks.
Posted by: GollyGTFC, March 31, 2023, 11:57am; Reply: 17
Quoted from promotion plaice

Times are changing, so many people with VPN's these days.


What's a VPN. Every Saturday 3PM game that we don't attend me and Grantham Mariner take his laptop to Calais and watch the game from there.
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