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Quoted from Heswall Mariner

What is the job discription of a Safeguarding Lead?

It was quite well advertised. I enquired but having take a new role recently and the job advertised by the club being part time it wasn’t worth me applying.

Pete has worked locally at a special school and has a career in safeguarding roles.

Essentially it’s about ensuring staff at the cub are aware of safeguarding concerns, know how to report them, how the club deals with them, DBS checks, safeguarding training, best practice and the likes…

Massively important role, especially with the expanding remit of football clubs.

Massively important role? What a sad mixed up world we live in.

Quoted from It Bites

Looking after church roofs ?

Keep an eye on Dave Gilbert.

Quoted from realist

Massively important role? What a sad mixed up world we live in.

considering the rise of grooming scandals and abuse of young people in sports these roles are becoming more and more important in establishing safeguarding of young people and a chain of reporting incidents that can be followed up. I'll take a bunch of boomers being offended by this as support for coaches grooming kids which honestly doesn't surprise me at this point. Some of you need to learn the wild west of the 60's and 70's are over and it's not acceptable to ignore it anymore.

It's vital in any walk of life especially when there is children involved. Safeguarding is rammed down throats of people working in education. It's the biggest subject when Ofsted visit a school and you must know what it means and read the 30 page document every year as it continues to be tweaked and updated.

To cut a long story short his role will be to check everyone working with children within gtfc have an up to date DBS, he will be the go to guy if any players, staff or family members have concerns etc.

Quoted from realist

Massively important role? What a sad mixed up world we live in.

Bless…I guess we’ll just ignore the relevance and importance of these roles and let the pervy coaches and the letchy staff members crack on, ya know, like they did in yesteryear.,.keep burying that head.

Quoted from lukeo

It's vital in any walk of life especially when there is children involved. Safeguarding is rammed down throats of people working in education. It's the biggest subject when Ofsted visit a school and you must know what it means and read the 30 page document every year as it continues to be tweaked and updated.

To cut a long story short his role will be to check everyone working with children within gtfc have an up to date DBS, he will be the go to guy if any players, staff or family members have concerns etc.

‘are’ children involved . Also I’m pretty sure you are politically incorrect to use the term ‘he’ for a role that may be given to a female. Just saying.

Quoted from supertown

‘are’ children involved . Also I’m pretty sure you are politically incorrect to use the term ‘he’ for a role that may be given to a female. Just saying.

In this context he is fine given Pete clearly identifies as a male and uses male pronouns…

Imagine thinking safeguarding is a bad thing.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Imagine thinking safeguarding is a bad thing.

Ironically, probably the same people who witter on about Muslim grooming gangs and the like.

It’s almost like they believe sex offenders didn’t exist before say 2000…

Quoted from Kris2

considering the rise of grooming scandals and abuse of young people in sports these roles are becoming more and more important in establishing safeguarding of young people and a chain of reporting incidents that can be followed up. I'll take a bunch of boomers being offended by this as support for coaches grooming kids which honestly doesn't surprise me at this point. Some of you need to learn the wild west of the 60's and 70's are over and it's not acceptable to ignore it anymore.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply that just because I was born in the late 40s I wouldn’t understand the importance of this appointment. Generational division has been stoked out of all proportion in recent times and your casual insult detracts from the truth of your opening statement.

Quoted from Croxton

I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply that just because I was born in the late 40s I wouldn’t understand the importance of this appointment. Generational division has been stoked out of all proportion in recent times and your casual insult detracts from the truth of your opening statement.

Please provide clear and unbiased evidence that "generational division has been stoked out of all proportion".

Important role this, for around 10 years I was an egg chasing club coach and committee member at our local club, legislation, protocols and best practice change frequently and keeping up with this protects the young people at the club and actually the club from any spurious stupidity.

The role is will not only involve safe guarding requirement I would imagine the guy who’s looking after it will be heavily involved on working with the leadership to shape the culture & environment.

Well done Town, under the previous regime this role would have been filled by “another” enthusiastic amateur but now we have an employed experienced professional it can only be a positive thing.

Indeed, this is very important. As a young lad, early teens I experienced this playing for a Youth Centre team in Scunthorpe.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Please provide clear and unbiased evidence that "generational division has been stoked out of all proportion".

It is amazing that anyone could think a safe guarding role is not essential, especially given what has come to light in recent years. However, it is not surprising that older posters may find it offensive that an assertion is made that a bunch of boomers being offended is support for coaches grooming kids.

I'm an older poster,spent the majority of my career safeguarding children,it is the entrenched ideas of others that is the biggest obstacle.

I would agree with our friend realist in so much that it is indeed a sad and mixed up world that we live in. Regardless, you don’t get to choose the parameters of the world we live in and you can’t wish away the pervs and the nonces with magical thinking.

As a kid I was coached by two individuals who would go on to be convicted of serious child sex offences, and taught at school by another. I was lucky enough not to experience anything untoward, but the threat exists whether you like it or not.

I’m not sure how anyone could object to anything which helps reduce the chances of kids being abused. Unless you’re a bit weird.

Quoted from aldi_01

In this context he is fine given Pete clearly identifies as a male and uses male pronouns…

Apologies, I thought it was a generalisation about the person that got the job

Quoted from aldi_01

In this context he is fine given Pete clearly identifies as a male and uses male pronouns…

This

Quoted from Poojah

I would agree with our friend realist in so much that it is indeed a sad and mixed up world that we live in. Regardless, you don’t get to choose the parameters of the world we live in and you can’t wish away the pervs and the nonces with magical thinking.

As a kid I was coached by two individuals who would go on to be convicted of serious child sex offences, and taught at school by another. I was lucky enough not to experience anything untoward, but the threat exists whether you like it or not.

I’m not sure how anyone could object to anything which helps reduce the chances of kids being abused. Unless you’re a bit weird.

Had a teacher and one of the P.E teachers who later went on to coach football be convicted of some quite serious offences years after they happened. It happened a lot and we are still digging through the horrific evidence of things that were ignored or even worse, covered up by people around them because reporting it wasn't the done thing. I want to live in a world where kids are able to pursue their hobbies, dreams and future careers without being taken advantage of by sexual deviants in a safe environment. I don't care if that makes somebody think I'm "too soft" or the world has become a PC nightmare. Kids always deserved better and it's only recently that they've actually started to be protected.

Anyone wondering if we need this position and questioning the importance within a football club need to remember Crewe

My old English teacher at school turned out to be a fake teacher, he faked his qualifications, also he got convicted of having a relationship with a student at the school, the student in particular was in my same English class.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Please provide clear and unbiased evidence that "generational division has been stoked out of all proportion".

No. If you have failed to emerge from your echo chamber long enough to discern a distinct undertone to the national conversation since 2015 then where have you been? The expression ‘boomer’ was a useful monica to describe anyone born from 1946 to early sixties. Pollsters , media and social scientists frequently use subsequent terms like generations X Y and Z. (Yes, I had to Google them like most folk who are busy with normal day to day existence.)

You know this , of course, being younger, politically motivated and social media savvy like my mid 40,s kids. My lived experience as retired 72 year old professional is that the expression ‘boomer’, for many is a derogatory term for many who comment on issues like Brexit, the wealth gap, housing crisis and pensions to name just a few.

I have no intention of straying into non footy, especially having just travelled to Salford and back, but in the context of Kris’s post, which I largely endorse, I felt that his use of the the term was unnecessary and irrelevant. There has been a gradual twitterisation of the Fishy which reflects the binary nature of public debate today and the spread of identity politics from the U.S.A.

Kris based his remark on a presumption rather than fact. As a former teacher with considerable safeguarding responsibilities beyond the classroom I experienced first hand the processes involved in keeping young people safe both at school and at home. At least one member of staff lost his job due to his behaviour and hours spent liaising with social workers and police.

It is not the age of fishy posters that should exercise Kris. The age of some perpetrators was a more relevant concern.

Quoted from Poojah

I would agree with our friend realist in so much that it is indeed a sad and mixed up world that we live in. Regardless, you don’t get to choose the parameters of the world we live in and you can’t wish away the pervs and the nonces with magical thinking.

As a kid I was coached by two individuals who would go on to be convicted of serious child sex offences, and taught at school by another. I was lucky enough not to experience anything untoward, but the threat exists whether you like it or not.

I’m not sure how anyone could object to anything which helps reduce the chances of kids being abused. Unless you’re a bit weird.

But he loved her…and we all saw that picture…

Quoted from Kris2

considering the rise of grooming scandals and abuse of young people in sports these roles are becoming more and more important in establishing safeguarding of young people and a chain of reporting incidents that can be followed up. I'll take a bunch of boomers being offended by this as support for coaches grooming kids which honestly doesn't surprise me at this point. Some of you need to learn the wild west of the 60's and 70's are over and it's not acceptable to ignore it anymore.

I wasn't condoning anything, merely commenting on the state of our depraved society. Your reply is unacceptable . I bet you are a guardian reading low life like most at this club nowadays