Orsi on the bench.

Good looking team, just makes me wonder where the goal threat is tbh..would like to have seen Pepple playing off Taylor

Smith and Wearne make the squad then. JMD will never start unfortunately, I think that's pretty evident now.

Don't see a lot of creativity in the XI but hopefully we can grow into the game and use our attacking options later on.

4-5-1 with Glennon on left and Clifton on right.
Team I predicted Vs Forest albeit Smith was injured in mid week.
Set up to be solid but work hard with emphasis of attacking on the break.
Cmon town

Like that away from home. Nice and solid and see how we go

Isn't  their Comley that little guy we had on loan from QPR who always wore black sheepskin mitts. Let's hope he plays like he did for us - fakking useless

May be we will see Orsi come off the bench and grab a goal for us lets hope the games not gone by then

Quoted from golfer

Isn't  their Comley that little guy we had on loan from QPR who always wore black sheepskin mitts. Let's hope he plays like he did for us - fakking useless

Thought Comley was decent in his spell here

Quoted from out of town

Thought Comley was decent in his spell here

Comely was good, I guess he played for us during a spell most would rather forget…

Jesus we’ve started terribly


And 1-0 down

Oh dear

Once again, we look clueless against a quick tricky wingback, that was far too easy

1-0 down already, under the cosh from the start, Town never settled.

We've not turned up for the first five minutes. Awful start, no resistance what so ever shown for Walsall's opener

Bugg3r

Mistake from Amos caught in between going for the ball and out of position. But on the whole we look very sluggish.

Omar Bogle puts Newport 1 up at Harrogate.

Awful defending there

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Once again, we look clueless against a quick tricky wingback, that was far too easy

Neither glennon or Amos went for the initial ball

Plenty of time
UTM

We’re going to leathered here. Clueless and out of shape

flipping hell…wouldn’t wanna be in a war with you lot…

2 good moves there

Great ball in from Amos

Don't panic. Our star striker will pull up out the crap . Ho wait a minute

Quoted from denni266

Don't panic. Our star striker will pull up out the crap . Ho wait a minute

Ho? When did we sign a Japanese lad?

Quoted from aldi_01

Ho? When did we sign a Japanese lad?

I think you will find he is CHinese - Ho Ping.

Quoted from denni266

Don't panic. Our star striker will pull up out the crap . Ho wait a minute

Went behind in all our play off games…. Shut up

We're starting to put something together now. Little individual errors just keep breaking up the play at the minute, but much improved on the opening 5

First touch bad
Passing off
Out of shape.

Not good.

Quoted from Hagrid

Went behind in all our play off games…. Shut up

Nooooooo

Growing into the game now

Hospital ball by Efete after great defending by Smith

Look better when we keep the ball on the deck

They should be two nil up. Efete looks like he's still in bed

We NEED forward players, we have zero creativity and threat on the pitch.

Quoted from Chrisblor

They should be two nil up. Efete looks like he's still in bed

Give it time, the way most of the team doesn't look up for it they'll soon find an opening.

Efete is pedestrian.  Get Cropper on.  Morris looks like he don;t give  a...    Smith working his butt off.  

Just dropping in to leave my weekly 'bring JMD on' comment

Quoted from Mayaman

Efete is pedestrian.  Get Cropper on.  Morris looks like he don;t give  a...    Smith working his butt off.  

He's not on the bench because he's injured.

Quoted from DB

He's not on the bench because he's injured.

He'd still do a better job.

I'd be peed off if i were Smith.  Wins a header, nobody near him to pick it up.

Jeez do we miss McAtee (stating the obvious)

They sound dangerous in attack and we don't even sound average. You can only hope they come out guns blazing in the 2nd half.

We are always better in the 2nd half

Quoted from DB

They sound dangerous in attack and we don't even sound average. You can only hope they come out guns blazing in the 2nd half.

What's happened to your usual positivity DB?

Its very obvious today how little pace we have in the team when we go forward.

I’m not sure whether Green is being played out of position, he’s basically playing no10 and he just looks completely lost, like he’s never seen a football before.  :'(

Efete is still on the bus, he’s not in this game

Quoted from promotion plaice

What's happened to your usual positivity DB?

I did say coming out all guns blazing in the second half PP. Last year at this time we had a few goal scorers so confident of a victory for the 2-1 victory I predicted.

Come on Town.
UTM

Green off Pepple on at half time please. Greens hardly in it and we need some pace in and around Taylor to run onto the balls he's winning.

Green looking lost. Needs replacing. Clifton busy on the right and looks a good outlet.

There's only Smith looks like he wants the ball, and the passing is pathetic. Need a rocket at half time.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Green off Pepple on at half time please. Greens hardly in it and we need some pace in and around Taylor to run onto the balls he's winning.

Agree with this, thought Pepple looked bright against Forest and full of energy which we’re lacking up front

Quoted from GhostDan

I’m not sure whether Green is being played out of position, he’s basically playing no10 and he just looks completely lost, like he’s never seen a football before.  :'(

He's a defensive midfielder, but we're playing him further up the pitch where he doesn't have the technical ability and understanding needed for that role. As a defensive midfielder Morris has looked much better than him and I think he's very lucky to still be starting games. He's far from alone in looking way off the pace today though.

Nobody really taking responsibility.   our 'Arry is trying. , Smith is good but midfield is barren.  Effete seems worried to go forward.  had chances to go on the overlap and stopped.

effort, great. passing, awful. efete poor game. Walsall are faster, more accurate and want the ball more and when they have it they waste it less.

Quoted from davmariner

Green looking lost. Needs replacing. Clifton busy on the right and looks a good outlet.

He's busy and a grafter but he's not an effective attacking outlet out wide, were not using him to his full ability out there. Feel a bit frustrated with hursts selection today to be honest feel like it was clear we either needed two up top or JMD in the team, not having this 'jmd doesnt do enough defensively' stuff. Either clifton where green is and jmd out wide, or pepple up front with taylor. We'll end up doing one of those options anyway, as we have every game, I cant see what this idea is with the green, holohan morris as a trio at the minute.

Quoted from Mayaman

Effete seems worried to go forward.  had chances to go on the overlap and stopped.

He looks like he's been told to worry about their wingback breaking on him. Amos looked the same but as the games gone on he's pushed up more where Efete hasn't

We’re absolutely garbage. Players look confused because there’s no outlet. We are relying on our CDM to make runs beyond their defence. Get Pepple/Orsi, JMD and wearne on and we might create something. We’ve got two left backs on one side? And our least creative CM on the other side? Not sure where PH expected the goals to come from, maybe waterfall? Just my thoughts  :)

Bit flat, but grew into the half a little. We have to get more players in the box. Clifton looks the most likely. Had the majority of possession.

Taylor isolated, Green and Efete have really struggled.
Green really trying, Efete looks terrified every time he gets the ball. Hopefully they can get into him to be a bit braver with it 2nd half.

Like to see us go 2 up top

No doubt an unpopular opinion but I think Efete is no where near good enough, I didn't particularly rate him last season ( but I do accept his physical size is a threat) and he hasn't started this season well.

Before anybody asks yes I am at Walsall and I have been to every single game this season so far, and I was at 36 league games last season.

Just donning my tin hat

This team needs someone who can create something I get they say JMD doesn't work hard enough but he offers us something I just can't see anyone else doing in a town shirt with McAtee out...

Nothing up front if Taylor wins the ball no one beyond him. If he controls and lays off to the sides no one in the box for a quick cross. Every time we do get it in the box no one has a clue what to do, as our approach is so pedestrian Walsall have 8 or 9 players already set. Need 2 up front as 1 v 3 rarely leads to a lot of goals

Wearne is coming on for Green I think.

E: yep, Clifton into centre mid

Wearne for green

Quoted from Davec

No doubt an unpopular opinion but I think Efete is no where near good enough, I didn't particularly rate him last season ( but I do accept his physical size is a threat) and he hasn't started this season well.

Before anybody asks yes I am at Walsall and I have been to every single game this season so far, and I was at 36 league games last season.

Just donning my tin hat

No need for a tin hat. I think it is becoming a toss of a coin between him and Cropper now.

Looks like Wearne out wide and Clifton moved central

Better start, need that bit of quality. Positive stuff now

Quoted from Chrisblor

Wearne is coming on for Green I think.

E: yep, Clifton into centre mid

If this isnt the last weve seen of the green, holohan, morris as a central trio theres something wrong

Our passing is absolutely shocking we’re lacking the basics

Just seen the goal, I’m a big fan of Glennon, but that’s woeful.

We're still just so slow doing everything. Everytime we breakxWalsall have the chance to adjust their shape and reorganise

10 men Bromley 1-0 Scunny.

Quoted from WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP

If this isnt the last weve seen of the green, holohan, morris as a central trio theres something wrong

Love our fan base😅

We have another thread calling these 3 league 1 quality and we should give morris a new contract

I look more likely to score than Taylor.

Pepple on for Amos, Clifton on the wing and 2 up front or Pepple just behind Taylor

Quoted from Hagrid

Love our fan base😅

We have another thread calling these 3 league 1 quality and we should give morris a new contract

Not got a problem with them as individuals, ive got a problem with them as a central 3 AND playing clifton on the left aswell

Yellow card for Hurst 😂

We’ve not created a single chance in 65 mins

Wallsall should of scored there

Great save from Crocombe to keep us in the game. Walsall should’ve put it to bed there

Trying to walk it in all the time.  Have a crack, we might get a corner.  We havn't had one yet have we?

Clifton just runs into the corner on a break instead of crossing to one of the two free town players at the far post. We can't keep playing him as a winger in this division, he doesn't have the skillset for it.

The one thing for certain is the support given by all the travelling fans. I have often heard them above the commentary and Walsall fans. The fans are a credit to the club, so let's hope the team responds.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Clifton just runs into the corner on a break instead of crossing to one of the two free town players at the far post. We can't keep playing him as a winger in this division, he doesn't have the skillset for it.

Tbh been groaning all game each chance we get seems to fall to Clifton who then botches up a pass, keeps the ball for too long then gets tackled or misses a long shot. Ran around a lot but hasn't offered more than botches and looking at the sky with a gormless face after.

Clifton!!

1-1

Get in 1-1 Clifton

HAAAAAAAARRRRRRRY. What a ball from Pepple

get in!

Oh I love you irony  ;D

Great cross from People, great run and finish from Clifton, just ignore me I'm talking out my bottom

Quoted from Kris2

Tbh been groaning all game each chance we get seems to fall to Clifton who then botches up a pass, keeps the ball for too long then gets tackled or misses a long shot. Ran around a lot but hasn't offered more than botches and looking at the sky with a gormless face after.

Mmm.

One all,  Clifton shows what he made of despite the posts above.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Great cross from Pepple, great run and finish from Clifton, just ignore me I'm talking out my bottom

Didn't see thar coming TBH  Decent assist from Pepple - well done Harry

Quoted from Chrisblor

Clifton just runs into the corner on a break instead of crossing to one of the two free town players at the far post. We can't keep playing him as a winger in this division, he doesn't have the skillset for it.

Harry Harry Harry
He's one of our own

Quoted from Chrisblor

You're forgiven. Looks like a win could be on the cards.

Fantastic assist that, more please

Quoted from DB

The one thing for certain is the support given by all the travelling fans. I have often heard them above the commentary and Walsall fans. The fans are a credit to the club, so let's hope the team responds.

Give that magic lamp another rub DB.

Who's got Liverpool in the FIshy Buster?  8 goals already

HARRRRRRRY!!!!!

1 --   2

1-2

Clifton again  ;D

YEEEEEESSSSSS

Get in!!!! Clifton hatrick coming  ;D

flipping yes!!!!!!!!!! clifton, what a star!

Who shall we slag off next?.. That Pepple looks like a useless Canadian twunt who will never, ever score...

Clifton again. 2-1 . The come back kids are doing it again

Clifton he's excrement, excrement-hot!

Quoted from bobbyturtle

flipping yes!!!!!!!!!! clifton, what a star!

best way to answer your critics!

Gotta be 4-4-2 going forward!!!

Quoted from SouthLakesMariner

Give that magic lamp another rub DB.

It Worked

Some of you lot never flipping learn. Just back this squad as they have their limitations but they have mountains of character and 'they just never know when they're beaten'.

Kept his head there.  Took a touch

Walsall looked rattled since conceding the first goal was the perfect time to put them under that much pressure and Clifton able to prod it home through the scramble while rubbing it in my face for being frustrated with his performance.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Written with more grace than some of the people on here. I get it’s frustrating but we’re going to have some days like this until we get everyone back and hopefully add a couple of key players

Quoted from aldi_01

Comely was good, I guess he played for us during a spell most would rather forget…

He played in our promotion year

dfgv;kqem fvf vb[nre gmvf FNENRNJFGNR FGN,REG N[G ER GG  GME GNMGNJENGDNGNE RGERGNER!!!!!!!

HARRY CLIFTON HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN!!!!

Come on town see this out

Quoted from WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP

He's busy and a grafter but he's not an effective attacking outlet out wide, were not using him to his full ability out there. Feel a bit frustrated with hursts selection today to be honest feel like it was clear we either needed two up top or JMD in the team, not having this 'jmd doesnt do enough defensively' stuff. Either clifton where green is and jmd out wide, or pepple up front with taylor. We'll end up doing one of those options anyway, as we have every game, I cant see what this idea is with the green, holohan morris as a trio at the minute.

Dunno what youre all on about, replace jmd with wearn and I literally called it, clifton is a central player

I’m sure H doesn’t give a **** about what people say on he but that’s a great response to the recent detractors who posted on here a couple of weeks ago.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I’m sure H doesn’t give a **** about what people say on he but that’s a great response to the recent detractors who posted on here a couple of weeks ago.

If it means he scores then somebody tell him I called him excrement on the Fishy every game please.

Fancy playing against 10 men for a whole hour and still be losing 1-0.....

Clear dive that from Wallsall player.

Credit where it’s due, Efete defended incredibly well there

Efete has had a shocker.  Overhead kick to their forward.

Crocombe seems to be having a good game

hate the fact you can all see what's going on and i'm on commentary haha! Come on Town

What’s this distance nonsense from away from the keeper? Once they release the ball that’s fair game

Fu**ing get in, well done H, well done Town!!!

Once again great character!!

great win Lads.  f/t  1-2

Quoted from DB

Crocombe seems to be having a good game

Solid positioning and been great on crosses. Very composed throughout. No chance with the goal

WINNERS AGAIN 2-1 Going up joint 8th at the minute just out of the play offs

Quoted from Grimal

great win Lads.  f/t  1-2

Did we win 2-1?

Won two away games without even playing that well. UTM!

Get in, great result that, still gotta be asked whats with the starting line ups? Surely will be starting next game with the team weve finished with (but with taylor)

Absolutely flipping brilliant

Well done Town 😀 👏👏

Oh did town win Grimmal???

Brilliant win after being poor for so long . Crocombe was class and Pepples introduction changed the game. Big week ahead in the transfer market

UTM

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I’m sure H doesn’t give a **** about what people say on he but that’s a great response to the recent detractors who posted on here a couple of weeks ago.

Some of the criticism is justfied. He runs all day and is willing to play anywhere but what else does he offer and where is his specialist position? Hurst clearly doesn’t think it’s central midfield with the additions he made this summer.

I don't know what Paul Hurst does or says at HT, but whatever it is, it works!  UTM!

Some absolute whoppers on here and Twitter at half time calling for Clifton to come off when he'd been the best player and most likely. Scored twice playing on the left 😂

Quoted from DB

WINNERS AGAIN 2-1 Going up joint 8th at the minute just out of the play offs

And played a game less (along with Carlisle)  :)

Quoted from smokey111

Did we win 2-1?

;D bloody hell,don't know what happened there,laptop must have locked up or it perhaps got excited as  much as me

Quoted from LH

Some of the criticism is justfied. He runs all day and is willing to play anywhere but what else does he offer and where is his specialist position? Hurst clearly doesn’t think it’s central midfield with the additions he made this summer.

Well today he offered a couple of goals.  Can't argue with that.

If Carlsberg did great days .. Town win from a goal down, Lincoln 2 up in 14 min concede and equaliser in the 93rd min and
Scumthorpe lose again, this time to a team playing with 10 men for an hour (the only time i am pleased to see fatty Woodmans team win) Happy days  UTM

Quoted from Kris2

Tbh been groaning all game each chance we get seems to fall to Clifton who then botches up a pass, keeps the ball for too long then gets tackled or misses a long shot. Ran around a lot but hasn't offered more than botches and looking at the sky with a gormless face after.

Hi Kris……

Quoted from MidnightMariner

Oh did town win Grimmal???

My laptop was pretty sure we did ,it went berserk  ;D

Quoted from davmariner

Green looking lost. Needs replacing. Clifton busy on the right and looks a good outlet.

*Cups ear to whoever red crossed this* 🤓

That game turned because we brought on some actual attackers and started creating chances as a result. Delighted we turned it round but I wish Hurst would take the shackles off from the start instead of setting up not to lose. Their back line shat themselves when Pepple came on and started pulling their defenders about, and Wearne put in a very good shift on the right stretching play. Orsi also looked useful and played a part in the build-up to the winner along with Glennon who was quality second half. Efete still looked dodgy and kept giving the ball away, and we really got away with them fluffing a one on one with Crocombe with a weak effort straight at him after Smith slipped up, but you've got to ride your luck sometimes I guess!

Well done boys, fantastic result that as Walsall are no mugs.
Think the confidence from the Forest 2nd half will really kick us on. Plenty of things to be happy about, Orsi coming back to full fitness, Pepple's great cameo shows he has to start.. We never know when we are beaten.
Absolutely buzzing tonight.

Quoted from Chrisblor

That game turned because we brought on some actual attackers and started creating chances as a result. Delighted we turned it round but I wish Hurst would take the shackles off from the start instead of setting up not to lose. Their back line shat themselves when Pepple came on and started pulling their defenders about, and Wearne put in a very good shift on the right stretching play. Orsi also looked useful and played a part in the build-up to the winner along with Glennon who was quality second half. Efete still looked dodgy and kept giving the ball away, and we really got away with them fluffing a one on one with Crocombe with a weak effort straight at him after Smith slipped up, but you've got to ride your luck sometimes I guess!

A game lasts 90 minutes and it makes a lot of sense to have Taylor on at the start and then bring on a young inexperienced player late on to terrorise a tired defence.  PH looks to be doing a great job easing Pepple into the side.  

I'm old enough to remember when Darren Mansaram got thrust into the first team under Paul Groves because he had no real other options and it pretty much destroyed him as a player.

Quoted from Chrisblor

That game turned because we brought on some actual attackers and started creating chances as a result. Delighted we turned it round but I wish Hurst would take the shackles off from the start instead of setting up not to lose. Their back line shat themselves when Pepple came on and started pulling their defenders about, and Wearne put in a very good shift on the right stretching play. Orsi also looked useful and played a part in the build-up to the winner along with Glennon who was quality second half. Efete still looked dodgy and kept giving the ball away, and we really got away with them fluffing a one on one with Crocombe with a weak effort straight at him after Smith slipped up, but you've got to ride your luck sometimes I guess!

Unless you’re Man City or Liverpool, it’s a struggle to blow teams off the park in the first half.

You don’t win games in the first 45 mins but you can lose them.

I would rather be in the match with 20 minutes to go and try and win it from there than be 2, 3 or 4-0 down in the first half because we’ve played a line-up that’s too attacking (e.g. 4-4-2 and JMD for instance). Particularly away from home. Shorten the match into a 20 min funfest and let our fitness and camaraderie carry us through when the space starts to open up.

Sometimes it won’t work, such as against Sutton (although we probably should have still won that late on). When that happens you take the point and move on to the next one.

These threads are hilarious after the fact. We are useless and heading for relegation, then 20 mins later we are ace and heading for the play offs.

Maybe, just maybe, Hurst knows what he's doing and being away from home, keeps it tight and introduces more threat when the time is right. We certainly keep going for the whole 90.

As for Clifton; he has his limitations but he will keep on going just as strong at the end as at the start and he must be a nightmare for whoever is marking him. He's started adding goals to his game. Seven last season and could have been more. Two today and got us three points.

Great result today.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Unless you’re Man City or Liverpool, it’s a struggle to blow teams off the park in the first half.

You don’t win games in the first 45 mins but you can lose them.

I would rather be in the match with 20 minutes to go and try and win it from there than be 2, 3 or 4-0 down in the first half because we’ve played a line-up that’s too attacking (e.g. 4-4-2 and JMD for instance).

Sometimes it won’t work, such as against Sutton (although we probably should have still won that late on). When that happens you take the point and move on to the next one.

If you can lose them then surely the other team wins them

Well done Harry Clifton. Good on the lad.

Quoted from Plankton

We’re going to leathered here. Clueless and out of shape

  :P ;D :P :P ;D

Time will tell, I feel like the starting line up was caught lacking and dont think hurst tactically planned a half time change, but we'll see, if he keeps doing it and it keeps working then he's a genius isnt he

Quoted from Wiley2405

We are always better in the 2nd half

Told you

Max in goal is solid from crosses and a decent shot stopper, his had a good start to the season.

That was amazing!
So good being a Grimsby Town supporter right now 😀
Thought Pepple and Orsi made a huge difference when they came on 👌

2 wins at Walsall in the last 3 years - having previously not won there since 1897 - we’re on a roll 😀

Now that was a very very good win.  Genuinely didn’t expect anything from this game, and to be where we are after playing top of the table Orient and fancied Northampton……..impressed.

How many did we take ?

Quoted from grimps

How many did we take ?

807

Best of the day in League 2 (again)

Brilliant support as usual, it always riles me when i hear TV pundits say for example 'Bradfords tremendous away support' when they are playing some team within a 40 mile radius, whereas we have usually much further to travel and still better almost  all teams in league 1 or 2 and some in the  championship, fantastic fans!

Why can we never start a game with the players we finished the last one with ?

Quoted from golfer

Why can we never start a game with the players we finished the last one with ?

For the same reasons the other 91 managers in the football league don’t.

Quoted from golfer

Why can we never start a game with the players we finished the last one with ?

Hurst picks players for specific jobs he feels are needed against particular opposition. They are tactical decisions.