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Posted by: Hagrid, August 6, 2022, 5:15pm
A deserved point.

Game was spoilt by the fussy, hopeless and weak man in the middle but if we’d have lost it would have been very cruel

Taylor was a superb focal point and i thought Holohan drove us on well, smith superb again at CB

It felt like a 0-0 for a long while but there goal meant we had to attack and we looked a threat when we did

Wearne really impressed me when he came on, direct and attacking, and he played his part in the goal, finished by JMD who can maybe feel hard done by to not have started yet.

If northampton are the benchmark, we will be fine.

Special mention to the ref for his incredible decision to not award a corner for the most blatant deflection you’ll ever see and his inept attitude which spoilt the entire game.

One of the Worst lot of  away fans at BP also. Quiet, excrement numbers for a pretty easy trip
Posted by: mimma, August 6, 2022, 5:22pm; Reply: 1
Mad scramble in their box, ball cleared Town player gets the ball and about to cross it when the ref notices one of their players rolling about in the area. He blows so he can be treated. Restarts the game by giving a drop ball to their keeper. Unbelievable
Posted by: lukeo, August 6, 2022, 5:30pm; Reply: 2
Worst decision ever. Infact you can't call it a decision it's going against the letter of the law. It's shocking really. Even as an amateur qualified referee i know that's not what happens.

Anyway, I enjoyed listening to it, especially the second half.

UTM
Posted by: Mikey_345, August 6, 2022, 5:32pm; Reply: 3
Really happy with that, add some much needed attacking options (transfer and injuries back) and I can see us going from strength to strength. You can still see in some moments we are a little behind others in terms of fitness but that’s to be expected.

Think we look very solid in defence and in the middle of the park, just that final third that needs some attention. However that’s not to minimise how good I think Taylor is at what he does.

Holohan was fantastic I thought. However have to admit I love Glennon though, great to see him bombing down the wing and not messing around and getting some quality deliveries into the box!

Feeling very positive after seeing that against a much fancied side in this league.

Special mention to one of the strangest referee performances I’ve seen for a while. Didn’t know if the opposition had the ball around your box you could just collapse holding your head and your keeper gets the ball…
Posted by: Abdul19, August 6, 2022, 5:33pm; Reply: 4
Northampton remind me of Bromley*. As does that ref.


*but better at football
Posted by: acko338, August 6, 2022, 5:45pm; Reply: 5
Let's be brutally fair - a fit McAtee would have run them ragged - the game was crying out for his roaming runs  dragging people around.

Mind you - that ref would have got him sent off !!

Taylor will thrive again when he has a runner around him and he gets ball to feet, not long, high punts !

Agree with others that Holohan and Glennon both had good games , with Smith immense at the back !
Posted by: Kris2, August 6, 2022, 5:49pm; Reply: 6
It felt like they scored with their one clear chance of the game which left us chasing a point while they throw themselves to the floor every 2 seconds, we deserved at least a point but tbh should have scored with one of our earlier chances. Officials were an absolute joke, had no clue what they are doing, their keeper shouldn't get the ball back in that situation at all the team in possession should get it back and restart play. 4th official got it in the ear from Hurst but did nothing, annoying when it goes against us and a manager complains we see a 4th official running on the pitch to intervene but when the ref screws us over we get the guy who just stands there looking gormless when it's clear the ref has it wrong. About as useless as the linesman who were looking at the ref like "uuuhhhh....I dunno".
Posted by: ginnywings, August 6, 2022, 5:51pm; Reply: 7
Not the best game ever and spoiled further by Frodo in the middle. What was he doing? Looked to me like Clifton was fouled in the build up to their goal, but the ref thought otherwise. Fantastic finish mind.

I actually thought Taylor was pretty ineffective and didn't win much against their centre backs. The defence looks solid, the midfield looks solid also but not a lot of creativity in the side. It wasn't until Wearne and JMD came on that we looked more threatening and got a deserved equaliser, after which we could have gone on and won it with a bit more composure or luck.

Was talking to a Northampton fan leaving the ground and he thought we were the better side and that they were well below par, which was maybe down to our organisation.

Thought Smith was magnificent at the back and had a couple of half decent chances too, but didn't make good contact with either.

Looked like we weren't going to get anything, so can't complain too much, especially as we were the side most likely to get the winner with a late rally. Game took us a long time to get going, but we looked half decent for the last 15 mins and they resorted to throwing themselves on the floor every time we got some momentum going. At one point Dave Moore came on the pitch to treat one of their players and the game stopped for a good three minutes.

Frustrating, but I'll take a point.
Posted by: Mariner_501, August 6, 2022, 5:54pm; Reply: 8
Holohan MOTM.

Totally lacking in creativity until the subs. Wearne looks very good
Posted by: headingly_mariner, August 6, 2022, 5:54pm; Reply: 9
Good performance from Town and were unlucky not to win.  

Ref was woeful and felt it was a clear foul on Clifton in the build up to their goal.

Thought Wearne was excellent when he came on.

Holohan would've been my man of the match.


Big discussion to be had about Maguire-Drew, saw both the great and bad from him in his short time on the pitch. Super steady finisher and is always involved in goals, lazy and weak when we don't have the ball.
We'd probably need to find a space for him and take all the responsibility to defend or press off him.  
Posted by: Mariner16, August 6, 2022, 5:54pm; Reply: 10
We've got the same ref on Tuesday.
Posted by: PoutonStepover, August 6, 2022, 5:54pm; Reply: 11
I was impressed with Stephen Wearne when he came on today. He showed good vision and endeavour.

Saw him play at Alfreton and I thought he was the best player on the pitch that day.

I think he will become a key player for us.
Posted by: Gaffer58, August 6, 2022, 6:00pm; Reply: 12
You’d think there would be some way of the club being able to get the league to whatch the game on video ( or whatever new fangled system is in use nowadays) so that they can see how hopeless the ref actually was, but we all know there will be no repercussions for him, only prob is we’ll get him again some time later in the season.
Posted by: Hagrid, August 6, 2022, 6:01pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from PoutonStepover
I was impressed with Stephen Wearne when he came on today. He showed good vision and endeavour.

Saw him play at Alfreton and I thought he was the best player on the pitch that day.

I think he will become a key player for us.


He only played for 20 mins at Alfreton mate!
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 6, 2022, 6:10pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Hagrid


He only played for 20 mins at Alfreton mate!


Must have been good then!
Posted by: Madeleymariner, August 6, 2022, 6:19pm; Reply: 15
It's simple without McAtee/Taylor together to win a game we will have to keep a clean sheet. Lots of effort not much threat up front
Posted by: buckstown, August 6, 2022, 6:21pm; Reply: 16
Well deserved point and a battling display, particularly after they scored. Loved the atmosphere, best I've heard inside the BP (that's a joke) for ages.
Thought Smith and Holohan were excellent but my instincts are that we lack a touch of quality in midfield and the elephant in the room is the lack of a man to finish the half chances. They had one chance and took it we had about 6 half chances and took one. Still, as someone else said they finished fourth last year so if that's the standard we'll be ok
Thought Wearne looked good when he can on and I'd be tempted to give him a start and put Harry in the centre for greater energy.
If the capacity really is 9100 did anyone else see 2000 empty seats?
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 6, 2022, 6:21pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Madeleymariner
It's simple without McAtee/Taylor together to win a game we will have to keep a clean sheet. Lots of effort not much threat up front


PH seemed more positive regarding signings in his interview. Expecting Pepple this week, hopefully more.
Posted by: A.l.f., August 6, 2022, 6:21pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from mimma
Mad scramble in their box, ball cleared Town player gets the ball and about to cross it when the ref notices one of their players rolling about in the area. He blows so he can be treated. Restarts the game by giving a drop ball to their keeper. Unbelievable


Although frustrated, the rule changed this season and if any defending player is down with a suspected head injury, the refs stop the game and give possession to the defending keeper.  Crazy and open to be abused, like today.
Makes you wonder who decides the rules.
Posted by: Perkins, August 6, 2022, 6:23pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Mariner16
We've got the same ref on Tuesday.


Who exactly was the ref? The programme said Adam Herczeg but according to BBC and Sky, it was T Parsons
Posted by: mimma, August 6, 2022, 6:27pm; Reply: 20
That's daft!! I thought that when the ref stops play for injury, the team in possession gets it back. As we saw teams will abuse the sh1t out of it
Posted by: Hagrid, August 6, 2022, 6:29pm; Reply: 21
It was T Parsons. Our programme was wrong
Posted by: davmariner, August 6, 2022, 6:41pm; Reply: 22
It was Thomas Parsons. His EFL debut as well. male masturbator
Posted by: chaos33, August 6, 2022, 6:43pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from mimma
That's daft!! I thought that when the ref stops play for injury, the team in possession gets it back. As we saw teams will abuse the sh1t out of it


That’s the rule.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 6, 2022, 6:44pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Perkins


Who exactly was the ref? The programme said Adam Herczeg but according to BBC and Sky, it was T Parsons


We’ve got Herczeg on Tuesday. Not sure whether that’s an improvement.
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, August 6, 2022, 6:47pm; Reply: 25
If we'd started with the midfield/attacking options we did in the final 10 minutes I think we'd of seen a much different result. We looked alot more fluid and aggressive and really pinned Northampton down.
Posted by: PoutonStepover, August 6, 2022, 6:49pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Hagrid


He only played for 20 mins at Alfreton mate!


🤦🏼‍♂️ Apologies, I meant when he was on the pitch!
Posted by: DB, August 6, 2022, 6:50pm; Reply: 27
If we'd started with the midfield/attacking options we did in the final 10 minutes I think we'd of seen a much different result. We looked alot more fluid and aggressive and really pinned Northampton down.


Given our lack of strikers perhaps Hurst was thinking of the old adage ' If you don't think you can win make sure you don't lose'. At any rate we are now up and running.

Posted by: Rodley Mariner, August 6, 2022, 6:52pm; Reply: 28
Think Kieran deserves a mention. Didn't do everything right but thought he threatened more as it went on and a great run and backheel I'm the run up to the goal.
Posted by: grimps, August 6, 2022, 6:56pm; Reply: 29
Northampton hardly touched the ball in the first half and it was all Town , the only worry was I can’t remember us having a shot on target even with all that possession.
We’ll be fine in this league and if we can get a couple more players quick we might be in with a play off shout
Posted by: Mariner16, August 6, 2022, 7:00pm; Reply: 30
Explains the confusion regards todays ref then, thought it was impossible to have the same twice in the first 3 games!
Posted by: Perkins, August 6, 2022, 7:06pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from MuddyWaters


We’ve got Herczeg on Tuesday. Not sure whether that’s an improvement.

It has to be after today's performance.
Posted by: FPVmariner, August 6, 2022, 7:06pm; Reply: 32
Fist point in the bag against one of the promotion favourites, hopefully more attacking options to come.  Not a six point start but neither has it been two drubbings, could be worse.
Posted by: Lincspoacher, August 6, 2022, 7:08pm; Reply: 33
Overall, really enjoyed the game and excellent atmosphere

Back four look solid and settled in the main and definitely bodes well with Maher / Cropper / Amos waiting in wings when fit / needed.

I have to say i also enjoyed seeing Morris, Green and Holohan today and all 3 look excellent for this level. Green never stopped talking, organising and directing and Holohan was more involved and attacking today and he really does have real ability on the ball.

Kiernan and Clifton huffed and pufffed and worked hard. Have to be honest, i know there is a lot of emotional attachment to Clifton and all this "hes one of our own" nonsense, but no way was he man of the match. He works his socks off, but just not sure I see quality there tbh.

Mcguire-Drew created more in his 11 mins on the pitch than the two starting wide players and def worth sticking with as he knows where the goal is for sure and we desperately need that from someone.

Taylor worked tirelessly, but we need need need a striking threat asap.

If we can sign a striker with the money we have or tempt someone on loan(Luton lad runoured who is a Canadian international) this back 4 and midfield will create chances for someone.

Hurst has def strengthened our squad and I am feeling really positive after a draw with a team who only lost out on auto promotion last year to that mad 7-0 win on last day by Bristol.

A good point and we are up and running

UTM
Posted by: mariner91, August 6, 2022, 7:11pm; Reply: 34
Wearne looked very good. And that’s a big question for Hurst as the balance was much better with a left footed more naturally attacking player in that position.
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, August 6, 2022, 7:25pm; Reply: 35
The BBC said we had 23 shots at goal.  We were unlucky not to get a winner.  McAtee would have run riot against a surprisingly very average Northampton team.  If the key subs had come on 10 mins earlier we might well have got that winner.

Northampton scored a well-taken goal from their only real chance,  A reminder that teams are less wasteful the higher up you go.

We were caught in possession a few times when attacking for not passing the ball onto another player.  Simple passes that would have kept up the attack.  Waterfall’s headers lacked direction today.  In another game we would have got another goal.

Overall, a lot of determination, endeavour and drive just missing a bit of luck and clinical finishing.

We will be ok this season.  (I won’t mention the ref.  Other than he probably cost us a goal somewhere).  
Posted by: fishcake63, August 6, 2022, 7:26pm; Reply: 36
Enjoyed today would have been an injustice to lose , we look a decent team based on a really good spine , want to see more of wearne starting on tuesday think the lad oozes class , special mention to holohan best performance in a town shirt today
Posted by: HerveJosse, August 6, 2022, 7:35pm; Reply: 37
If Northampton were good enough to just miss automatic promotion last year we have nothing to fear.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, August 6, 2022, 7:37pm; Reply: 38
Just to add. How bad was the away following? Low numbers and they were pitifully quiet, even when they went in front. Embarrassing.
Posted by: Mariner_09, August 6, 2022, 7:38pm; Reply: 39
We shaded the first half although there wasn’t much in the game, very few clear cut chances created by either side. In the second half we basically bossed it and they scored in between long periods of dominance for us. Would’ve been very harsh if we’d got nothing, and I’m certainly not fearful of anyone given with just a small change in circumstances we’d have taken at least 4 and maybe 6 points from these opening two games against two of the more fancied teams.

Smith was excellent again and probably my MOM. Thought Holohan was really aggressive, played on the front foot and drove us forward. Glennon also played well, got up and down the line well and put in numerous very dangerous deliveries, we’re just lacking a striker to get on the end of them!

Taylor gave us a much needed focal point and we looked better than last week despite McAtee not being in the side, as Taylor was more naturally suited to that role. Thought Morris was much better this week and has excellent composure on the ball and I feel he will only grow in influence as he gets fitter and up to speed properly. Green is going to take some time, he’s missed a lot of preseason and is clearly not fully fit, he’s struggled with the pace of L2 so far but I think as he plays more and trains more he’ll get there. He’s a bit laboured in possession.

Worst performance was from the ref. He was dreadful. The outstanding moment was when we had the ball on the edge of their box, ready to send it back into the mixer and he blows up cos one of their CB’s was cheating by clutching his head! If we thought that was bad, he then restarted the game by giving their keeper the ball! Not sure I’ve seen a more baffling restart than that. It was only just a bit worse than when Morris hit a shot that clearly deflected of their defender, all the players from both sides trot towards their goal for a corner and the ref inexplicably points for a goal kick. Not to mention the sheer number of cheap free kicks he have against us.

Onto Crewe now. Bit of a free hit with that being a cup game.
Posted by: mariners1, August 6, 2022, 7:44pm; Reply: 40
Don’t think I’ve seen it mentioned yet I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of Glennon’s set piece deliveries today as well
Posted by: Wiley2405, August 6, 2022, 7:56pm; Reply: 41
Very welll deserved point, with that ref probably the best we could have got! Don’t think anyone played badly but mentions to Clifton, Smith, Taylor, Glennon and mainly to Holohan. Who all played brilliantly. How many balls does Holohan win in the air for a small lad? We need a little something upfront but apart from that I don’t think we have anything to be worried about.
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, August 6, 2022, 8:09pm; Reply: 42
Clifton great work rate as ever but Holohan out clear as mom for me.

Morris tidy on the ball but Green looks a bit off the pace so far. I'm sure we'll see more of Wearne very soon. Seen nothing to fear so far from this League save the referees...
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, August 6, 2022, 8:10pm; Reply: 43
A question was raised above about looking for 2,000 seats to make up the capacity.

In the UF in rows R and S (about numbers 30 -40) there was a block of about 20 empty seats.  No idea why.  
Posted by: davmariner, August 6, 2022, 8:10pm; Reply: 44
Nothing much to add to what people have said. Other than having been at both games so far, I’m struggling to see what Green brings to the team or what makes him worth buying.

He got caught in possession a number of times today and tends to trot about as the game passes him by.
Posted by: moosey_club, August 6, 2022, 8:11pm; Reply: 45
Much better than last week, looked a bit sharper and fitter...whether that is because Northampton were worse than Orient or we had improved markedly time will tell....
Start with a back a to goal striker, one natural winger and four centre midfield players of a similar ilk then chances were always going to be a premium, dominated but without much threat on goal. Holohan the standout midfielder for me.
They scored from a rare opportunity but looked more like a result of our poor play than them creating, possibly Green giving the ball up, harsh to be 1 down.
We reacted much better than last week, subs worked a treat, Wearne with an actual left foot on the left wing and Drew an actual winger made a huge improvement.
Cracking to come back and be pushing for 3 points, their keeper despite our real lack of goal threat still made a couple of cracking saves. Nice to get points on the board.

Utm
Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 6, 2022, 8:14pm; Reply: 46
Thought we played really well to be fair and probably was the better side overall. Again, we did not give in which needs to stay part of our DNA.

Back 4 was solid, midfield worked hard and Taylor did what he does. Don’t think anyone had a bad game and MOM could have gone to Gav, Smith or maybe a couple of other as much as Clifton really deserved it.

Thought Glennon’ a set pieces gave some variation and the in swinging corner could cause some problems. I must say I’d have loved to have seen Cropper on for the last few minutes as we got at least 1 throw within his range.

We do need some players back and a few more additions though as in reality the bench was light. If we get a fair wind on this we’ll be comfortable.

Final points, though the lad took their goal well I thought Northampton where no more than “well organised” and the ref just needed to learn the f*****g rules and not allowed to be manipulated by visiting gob sh1tes.

UTM!!!

Posted by: Limerick Mariner, August 6, 2022, 8:22pm; Reply: 47
Quoted from davmariner
Nothing much to add to what people have said. Other than having been at both games so far, I’m struggling to see what Green brings to the team or what makes him worth buying.

He got caught in possession a number of times today and tends to trot about as the game passes him by.


Give him a chance - I read on Football Forum from a Halifax fan he was injured in the play-off game v Chesterfield and played on through his injury. He looks leggy / not fully fit - let's see how he is in a month...

Posted by: davmariner, August 6, 2022, 8:25pm; Reply: 48
Quoted from Limerick Mariner


Give him a chance - I read on Football Forum from a Halifax fan he was injured in the play-off game v Chesterfield and played on through his injury. He looks leggy / not fully fit - let's see how he is in a month...



Agree, just my observations so far. Usually even when not fit you see flashes of what a player offers. Hope I’m proven wrong.
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, August 6, 2022, 8:27pm; Reply: 49
He was in the conference team of the season, excellent against Town and Hurst's number one target. I suspect you have got it wrong and also that he'll do a lot of important but ugly work this season which will regularly get missed by fans.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, August 6, 2022, 8:30pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from Rodley Mariner
He was in the conference team of the season, excellent against Town and Hurst's number one target. I suspect you have got it wrong and also that he'll do a lot of important but ugly work this season which will regularly get missed by fans.


He's a brute, won every header that was anywhere near him and screened the back 4 lovely until he ran out of steam.
Posted by: ginnywings, August 6, 2022, 8:31pm; Reply: 51
It's a step up for him and a new team.

Time needed to settle in and get used to the pace.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, August 6, 2022, 8:31pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from moosey_club
Much better than last week, looked a bit sharper and fitter...whether that is because Northampton were worse than Orient or we had improved markedly time will tell....
Start with a back a to goal striker, one natural winger and four centre midfield players of a similar ilk then chances were always going to be a premium, dominated but without much threat on goal. Holohan the standout midfielder for me.
They scored from a rare opportunity but looked more like a result of our poor play than them creating, possibly Green giving the ball up, harsh to be 1 down.
We reacted much better than last week, subs worked a treat, Wearne with an actual left foot on the left wing and Drew an actual winger made a huge improvement.
Cracking to come back and be pushing for 3 points, their keeper despite our real lack of goal threat still made a couple of cracking saves. Nice to get points on the board.

U


Have to agree about Green but as it’s only his second game will cut him some slack but in all honesty his movements and lack of pace reminded me of Jones last season which isn’t too positive!!

Morris also too slow on the ball and I don’t get the feeling this is a creative or mobile partnership and in some ways Morris reminds me of Berrett and as any regular readers of my posts will recall I am not Harry’s biggest fan but at present I think we need his energy in the middle of the park with Wearne starting on the left. Watching the game today makes me more puzzled why we didn’t pursue keeping Mani as his physical presence and hold up play is badly missed as Taylor without McAtee is like Morecambe without Wise and he just lacks sufficient physicality to trouble central defenders.

Appreciate that all sounds a bit negative but thought defensively we were excellent and probably deserved all 3 points and a number of the second half scrambles could have seen us score. I also accept after just two games any judgement of Green and Morris is premature as all players need time to settle in and adjust so my comments are solely based on today’s performance where Hoolahan was for me MOM.

Posted by: It Bites, August 6, 2022, 8:31pm; Reply: 53
Funny how people see things . I thought Green was brilliant, never stopped talking all game and was solid . Kiernan isn't really an up grade on Sousa imo though
Posted by: The Yard Dog, August 6, 2022, 8:32pm; Reply: 54
The lad from Luton was at BP today, Hurst said that his international clearance was sorted, hopefully he was impressed with what he saw on and off the pitch.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, August 6, 2022, 8:33pm; Reply: 55
Quoted from Lincspoacher
Overall, really enjoyed the game and excellent atmosphere

Back four look solid and settled in the main and definitely bodes well with Maher / Cropper / Amos waiting in wings when fit / needed.

I have to say i also enjoyed seeing Morris, Green and Holohan today and all 3 look excellent for this level. Green never stopped talking, organising and directing and Holohan was more involved and attacking today and he really does have real ability on the ball.

Kiernan and Clifton huffed and pufffed and worked hard. Have to be honest, i know there is a lot of emotional attachment to Clifton and all this "hes one of our own" nonsense, but no way was he man of the match. He works his socks off, but just not sure I see quality there tbh.

Mcguire-Drew created more in his 11 mins on the pitch than the two starting wide players and def worth sticking with as he knows where the goal is for sure and we desperately need that from someone.

Taylor worked tirelessly, but we need need need a striking threat asap.

If we can sign a striker with the money we have or tempt someone on loan(Luton lad runoured who is a Canadian international) this back 4 and midfield will create chances for someone.

Hurst has def strengthened our squad and I am feeling really positive after a draw with a team who only lost out on auto promotion last year to that mad 7-0 win on last day by Bristol.

A good point and we are up and running

UTM


I would've gone for Holohan as MOM, but do we have to have this Clifton quality debate again? Thought he was great as usual today and it's telling he turned a good deal down from league 1. Other teams recognise his quality and he'll be a guaranteed regular if he's fit this season.
Posted by: Chrisblor, August 6, 2022, 8:41pm; Reply: 56
Quoted from davmariner
Nothing much to add to what people have said. Other than having been at both games so far, I’m struggling to see what Green brings to the team or what makes him worth buying.

He got caught in possession a number of times today and tends to trot about as the game passes him by.


Agree 100% with this. See you've already picked up a load of red crosses for saying it but I think he's been awful these first two games - miles off the pace, lumbering in possession and often getting his pocket picked because he's spent too long on the ball. I'm not writing him off yet because clearly he was one of the better defensive midfielders in the conference last season, but was notable how much better we looked after he went off and Wearne and JMD came on. Really hope he picks it up and improves going forward.

Posted by: Rodley Mariner, August 6, 2022, 8:47pm; Reply: 57
Quoted from It Bites
Kiernan isn't really an up grade on Sousa imo though


This Kiernan?

https://twitter.com/itvfootball/status/1555992603631489027?t=N6rPMpofK46CctNRtJHskg&s=19
Posted by: psgmariner, August 6, 2022, 8:48pm; Reply: 58
Sat in the osmond corner and enjoyed the game but some constructive feedback:

- it took me nearly 30 mins to leave after the game (not sure if another exit is available but the bottle neck to get back in to the main stand seemed to be the issue).
- being close to the away fans was pretty good (especially when we scored!) but the couple of stewards protecting the gate may have been in trouble if it had been a more ferocious away support / more heated game.
- someone I was sat with asked what constitutes being kicked out. Some fans from both teams seemed more interested in doing the bouncing on their feet with the arms out hold me back LADZ dance than watching the game. Looking at you fat NTFC fan and the ‘excrement Jimmy savile’ GTFC fan. I understand stewarding is a tricky balancing act but if in a bar / in public / anywhere else both would be thrown out.
- one steward / employee told me I needed to enter via the away fans entrance and another told me to use the main stand entrance. For future reference if you are a home fan in the osmond enter via the main stand entrances.
- the collection of shite in the closer corner stand included some stocks.  Keen to see these used.
- the pontoon and findus sound silent from the osmond.
Posted by: moosey_club, August 6, 2022, 8:48pm; Reply: 59
Quoted from headingly_mariner


I would've gone for Holohan as MOM, but do we have to have this Clifton quality debate again? Thought he was great as usual today and it's telling he turned a good deal down from league 1. Other teams recognise his quality and he'll be a guaranteed regular if he's fit this season.


I think , yet again, this will rumble on, his versatility will be his hindrance in alot if ways, so much energy, enthusiasm  and commitment is hard to overlook...but left wing isn't really doing him or the team any long term favours.
As per last week, very little coming from our left, excellent runs into the channel and balls to him resulting in checking back as he can't naturally run onto a ball and cross it.
Not his fault, love him to bits, but he isn't a left winger and never will be.


Posted by: It Bites, August 6, 2022, 8:54pm; Reply: 60
Quoted from Rodley Mariner


i , that's the bloke . Kept giving away stupid fouls and running down blind alleys .
Posted by: chipsandgravy, August 6, 2022, 9:16pm; Reply: 61
Quoted from Lincspoacher
Overall, really enjoyed the game and excellent atmosphere

Back four look solid and settled in the main and definitely bodes well with Maher / Cropper / Amos waiting in wings when fit / needed.

I have to say i also enjoyed seeing Morris, Green and Holohan today and all 3 look excellent for this level. Green never stopped talking, organising and directing and Holohan was more involved and attacking today and he really does have real ability on the ball.

Kiernan and Clifton huffed and pufffed and worked hard. Have to be honest, i know there is a lot of emotional attachment to Clifton and all this "hes one of our own" nonsense, but no way was he man of the match. He works his socks off, but just not sure I see quality there tbh.

Mcguire-Drew created more in his 11 mins on the pitch than the two starting wide players and def worth sticking with as he knows where the goal is for sure and we desperately need that from someone.

Taylor worked tirelessly, but we need need need a striking threat asap.

If we can sign a striker with the money we have or tempt someone on loan(Luton lad runoured who is a Canadian international) this back 4 and midfield will create chances for someone.

Hurst has def strengthened our squad and I am feeling really positive after a draw with a team who only lost out on auto promotion last year to that mad 7-0 win on last day by Bristol.

A good point and we are up and running

UTM


The point about JMD i can understand and whilst almost his first touch he scores - however his defensive responsibilities are pretty poor and I think that's why he's on the bench. Almost immediately after we got back in the game he let there left winger waltz easily past him without so much of a challenge which led to a real dangerous cross. I think Keirnan did very well in both attacking and defending today and did much more than huff and puff. I think in general the midfield did great today both part 1 and 2. This week the subs made a difference which is what you want - last week they didn't.
Posted by: Croxton, August 6, 2022, 9:30pm; Reply: 62
Quoted from It Bites
Funny how people see things . I thought Green was brilliant, never stopped talking all game and was solid . Kiernan isn't really an up grade on Sousa imo though


Have to disagree about both opinions! I wanted Green subbed for Wearne much sooner and thought Kiernan was a threat right from the whistle. We were much more decisive in getting crosses in and played with more urgency than against Orient. If Green can improve to the same degree as Holohan from last week then he will be OK. Kiernan is much more physical than Sousa and more intelligent in finding space.  
Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 6, 2022, 9:44pm; Reply: 63
Thought Kiernan looked decent, worked hard, has good physicality, reads the game well and looks like he’s comfortable on the ball. Looking forward to seeing him on the right of a 3.

Some of the stick Green’s getting is a bit harsh TBH. Don’t think he’s had much of a pre season and that’s not great when you’re making a step up a league.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 6, 2022, 10:02pm; Reply: 64
Agree regarding Green, he’s obviously had an injury, had to be told not to train and is obviously keen to make an impression. I thought Morris was decent today, and kept possession better than both Green and Clifton. Harry was his industrious self but nowhere near MoTM which had to be Holohan or Smith.
Posted by: newarkmariner, August 6, 2022, 10:03pm; Reply: 65
Quoted from Madeleymariner
It's simple without McAtee/Taylor together to win a game we will have to keep a clean sheet. Lots of effort not much threat up front


23 shots 9 on target =no threat,i give up!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Maringer, August 6, 2022, 10:07pm; Reply: 66
Green definitely off the pace, but he's only been here five minutes so let's see him settle in before we pass judgement. All the other debutants did well, I thought. Glennon defended well other than a couple of slightly weak clearances and he put in a few lovely crossed when we worked the chance.
I thought Morris did pretty well. Won plenty in the air, moved the ball on effectively and, in general, looked very competent. Kiernan did some good stuff in both attack and defence and some good runs through later in the second half especially. I'd have hoped for a bit more pace from him, but he's certainly quick enough. Some nice touches from Wearne after he came on but I thought he might have done better with a couple of his shots.

All in all, a very solid start, especially given the referee was so weak.
Posted by: quebec38, August 6, 2022, 10:14pm; Reply: 67
Just felt we missed someone getting a bit nearer to Taylor in McAtee’s absence but we were decent enough today against one of the fancied sides. We were at least as good as them. Holohan must have had his weetabix this morning, MOTM for me today. Nicking the ball and driving forward, getting his shots off and crosses in to the box. Glennon was great and Smith a real class act again but that is no surprise.

I thought Keirnan was ok first half and got stronger as the game went on. One or two not happy with him but I thought he did alright again, same as last week. I thought Green battled well too and whilst not everything came off for him, it certainly wasn’t for a lack of effort. The midfield needs tweaking still but we’ll work it out.

Looking forward to more Wearne, Pepple, McAtee’s return and Khan yet to sharpen the attack. Good times.

PS, great atmosphere today. UTM.
Posted by: Mikey_345, August 6, 2022, 10:15pm; Reply: 68
Quoted from It Bites


i , that's the bloke . Kept giving away stupid fouls and running down blind alleys .


On the contrary, he gave away some very good fouls… very astute.
Posted by: aldi_01, August 6, 2022, 10:27pm; Reply: 69
I mean their keepers had a blinder and probably deserved MOM but we’ve definitely got no threat🤔

It would’ve been harsh for us to come away with nothing, some could argue a point was fair but in truth, second half we deserved the win. They seemed more content on not losing rather than winning. Felt like playing one of those bottom feeder type clubs in non league, stopping and slowing the game down at every chance to keep what they’ve got rather than try and win.

Thought we looked better when Wearne came on and whilst JMD gets some flack his goals and assists must make him look like a world beater. Frustratingly, we saw best and worst of him in his cameo…

I think the difference this week to last was we saw a Paul Hirst side today. They didn’t stop after going a goal down unlike last week and we battled hard.

People may try and point the finger at Smith and I suspect he’d be the first to admit he was wrong side but he looks a class above anyone on that pitch.

Northampton were poor. If they’re a favourite to go up it makes you wonder how good the league is. They were agricultural at best and seemed to have a couple who just didn’t fancy it.
Posted by: WelwynGardener, August 6, 2022, 10:40pm; Reply: 70
Re the atmosphere. The noise didn't take off until the second half and was sparked by some poor refereeing, which riled everyone- particularly the blatant deflection by the defender resulting in a goal kick rather than a corner. That one was directly in my line of sight. The positive feedback between crowd and players then commenced, so perhaps the ref did us a favour in the end? On other issues, Greene was clearly exhausted before he was substituted and I felt for the lad. i'm sure he'll get better as he gets fitter. Holohan was MoM for me. He was also 'everywhere' last week even with his head bandaged.
Posted by: Abdul19, August 6, 2022, 10:55pm; Reply: 71
Quoted from psgmariner
- the collection of shite in the closer corner stand included some stocks.  


Possibly the ones Holloway claimed he'd purchased.
Posted by: Youngy, August 7, 2022, 12:06am; Reply: 72
I thought Green was decent first half, shadowed the defence and kept things simple but the more the game went on, the more his touch became 'tired'. Reminded me of Holahan last season (today was his best performance for the club imo).

Glennon is going to be a real outlet for us this season. Efete needs to stop cutting inside when he's coming forward and hug the touchline more.
Posted by: Southwark Mariner, August 7, 2022, 12:30am; Reply: 73
Quoted from psgmariner
Sat in the osmond corner and enjoyed the game but some constructive feedback:

- it took me nearly 30 mins to leave after the game (not sure if another exit is available but the bottle neck to get back in to the main stand seemed to be the issue).
- being close to the away fans was pretty good (especially when we scored!) but the couple of stewards protecting the gate may have been in trouble if it had been a more ferocious away support / more heated game.
- someone I was sat with asked what constitutes being kicked out. Some fans from both teams seemed more interested in doing the bouncing on their feet with the arms out hold me back LADZ dance than watching the game. Looking at you fat NTFC fan and the ‘excrement Jimmy savile’ GTFC fan. I understand stewarding is a tricky balancing act but if in a bar / in public / anywhere else both would be thrown out.
- one steward / employee told me I needed to enter via the away fans entrance and another told me to use the main stand entrance. For future reference if you are a home fan in the osmond enter via the main stand entrances.
- the collection of shite in the closer corner stand included some stocks.  Keen to see these used.
- the pontoon and findus sound silent from the osmond.


Club can only improve if you give them the feedback directly. Also....

- the collection of shite in the closer corner stand included some stocks.  Keen to see these used.

What on earth does that mean?




Posted by: psgmariner, August 7, 2022, 6:41am; Reply: 74
Quoted from Southwark Mariner


Club can only improve if you give them the feedback directly. Also....

- the collection of shite in the closer corner stand included some stocks.  Keen to see these used.

What on earth does that mean?






I meant ‘closed’ not ‘closer’.

Between the Osmond and the Main Stand is a closed off bit of terracing. It seems to be being used a store room. One of the things I noticed in there whilst waiting to leave after the game was some stocks (the medieval punishment thing where you stick your arms and head in and people throw stuff at you).

Posted by: sam gy, August 7, 2022, 7:55am; Reply: 75
Agree with a lot of that re the osmond. And the knock on effect for the main too. Took an absolute age to get out at the end and I felt bad for the wheelchair users and older people stuck in the bottle neck. Queues for the loo at half time were stretching all the way to pitch side and I didn’t even bother trying to get a drink at half time. We also had the same issue before kick off….quite a few were going to the wrong gate!

Not sure what the solutions are….could they have let us walk out the front of the osmond once the away fans were cleared out? They were home pretty swiftly. Just observations anyway..good problems to have with such good turnouts!

The osmond corner is great for creating an atmosphere….agreed with whoever said the pontoon is inaudible from the other side of the pitch.
Posted by: marinerdazza, August 7, 2022, 7:55am; Reply: 76
Agree about the comments re segregation in the Osmond. Today the stewards were up against a comedy fat man and some gobby “hold me back” types. Needs sorting before we play Donny or Bradford.

Having said all that, my usual tickets in the main family area seem to be a bargain. Atmosphere in that area next to the Osmond is better than ever. Didn’t hear much from anywhere else...
Posted by: aldi_01, August 7, 2022, 8:04am; Reply: 77
Anyone else suspect we won’t bother putting fans in the ossie when we play away teams that will bring more?

They’ve said about 1200 allocation for some away teams, surely, with the tarp across the front rows that would stretch across the whole stand surely?
Posted by: Mendonca1995, August 7, 2022, 8:19am; Reply: 78
Quoted from davmariner
Nothing much to add to what people have said. Other than having been at both games so far, I’m struggling to see what Green brings to the team or what makes him worth buying.

He got caught in possession a number of times today and tends to trot about as the game passes him by.


Yeah he lost the ball a couple of times but so did a few others I watched him from the main stand and he won the majority of his headers and tackles he organsided from goal kicks and set peices every time looks a right hard nut to me something we have missed for years he will pick the pace up no doubt and could be a big player for us once he’s fully fit and picks the pace up early days yet we’re 2 games in !!!
Posted by: jamesgtfc, August 7, 2022, 8:40am; Reply: 79
Quoted from aldi_01
Anyone else suspect we won’t bother putting fans in the ossie when we play away teams that will bring more?

They’ve said about 1200 allocation for some away teams, surely, with the tarp across the front rows that would stretch across the whole stand surely?


If I can't get to the rare few games I can make on a Saturday because the Osmond is out of bounds due to stupid idiots gobbing off I won't be happy.

A total home sell out yesterday yet 1900 empty seats in the ground. Appreciate there were probably 700 empty seats in the Northampton section of the Osmond but did it look like 1200 home seats were missing?
Posted by: Davec, August 7, 2022, 8:41am; Reply: 80
I actually tried the fanzine for the first time yesterday, albeit  briefly, I took advantage of the coupon in the season ticket pack and got the mango cider which was very nice indeed, a little expensive but I may visit again especially for the cider.

The Sidney Wheelhouse bar at the back of the pontoon whilst having limited alcohol selection is a good thing to utilise and they did well to get people served quickly.

As for the game again same as last week's first half I thought we battled and showed some good points, Morris looked decent as did Holohan, Kiernan works hard and whilst not being a world beater he does offer something, Green will improve as he gets fitter, Efete does need to stop cutting inside and losing the ball, Glennon did well,  Wearne offered something of the bench as did JMD of course.

Northampton were no great shakes.

Get players back fit and a few more signings we should be fine
Posted by: immariner, August 7, 2022, 9:02am; Reply: 81
No one else has mentioned it but I thought it at the time and I still do after watching the highlights, that Crocombe's positioning for their goal wasn't the best. He hasn't come out to narrow the angle and when the ball hits the net is practically leaning against his near post. Their scorer was coming from wide but not that wide. Not saying he's to blame and i'm probably being hyper critcal because it was obviously a decent finish (and becauae no one else has noted it) but I do feel he gave Hoskins a bit too much of the goal to aim at
Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 7, 2022, 9:22am; Reply: 82
Quoted from immariner
No one else has mentioned it but I thought it at the time and I still do after watching the highlights, that Crocombe's positioning for their goal wasn't the best. He hasn't come out to narrow the angle and when the ball hits the net is practically leaning against his near post. Their scorer was coming from wide but not that wide. Not saying he's to blame and i'm probably being hyper critcal because it was obviously a decent finish (and becauae no one else has noted it) but I do feel he gave Hoskins a bit too much of the goal to aim at


I think this is a fair observation, I thought it was a good finish TBH.
Posted by: aldi_01, August 7, 2022, 9:29am; Reply: 83
Quoted from jamesgtfc


If I can't get to the rare few games I can make on a Saturday because the Osmond is out of bounds due to stupid idiots gobbing off I won't be happy.

A total home sell out yesterday yet 1900 empty seats in the ground. Appreciate there were probably 700 empty seats in the Northampton section of the Osmond but did it look like 1200 home seats were missing?


Season ticket holders not attending? I know of around 10/15 STH currently on holiday and unable to attend.

I personally wouldn’t bother with opening the osmond and start exploring temporary seats.

There’s no way that when we play a team with a decent away following they’ll even attempt to open it, if they do they’re asking for trouble. If that means people can’t get in then so be it. excrement I know but that’s how it is. Roll out a buy back scheme formally and it could go some way to solve the problem for the 200/300 that can’t get a ticket.

Northamptons turn out was poor so aside from an overweight embarrassment and a loud mouth in the town section, it was hardly an issue.

Things will have teething problems but they’ll get ironed out and will need to be given the more consistent away followings. Let’s face it, we’ve had a season of lost away followings being a handful at best…
Posted by: ginnywings, August 7, 2022, 9:30am; Reply: 84
Quoted from immariner
No one else has mentioned it but I thought it at the time and I still do after watching the highlights, that Crocombe's positioning for their goal wasn't the best. He hasn't come out to narrow the angle and when the ball hits the net is practically leaning against his near post. Their scorer was coming from wide but not that wide. Not saying he's to blame and i'm probably being hyper critcal because it was obviously a decent finish (and becauae no one else has noted it) but I do feel he gave Hoskins a bit too much of the goal to aim at


I heard someone behind me say that Crocombe shouldn't be getting beat from that angle and thinking about it, he has a point. So you weren't the only one.

Great finish though, which I think took everyone by surprise as he hit it hard and early.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, August 7, 2022, 9:38am; Reply: 85
Quoted from aldi_01


Season ticket holders not attending? I know of around 10/15 STH currently on holiday and unable to attend.

I personally wouldn’t bother with opening the osmond and start exploring temporary seats.

There’s no way that when we play a team with a decent away following they’ll even attempt to open it, if they do they’re asking for trouble. If that means people can’t get in then so be it. excrement I know but that’s how it is. Roll out a buy back scheme formally and it could go some way to solve the problem for the 200/300 that can’t get a ticket.

Northamptons turn out was poor so aside from an overweight embarrassment and a loud mouth in the town section, it was hardly an issue.

Things will have teething problems but they’ll get ironed out and will need to be given the more consistent away followings. Let’s face it, we’ve had a season of lost away followings being a handful at best…


I've already resigned myself to not being able to attend a game like Bradford or Donny, it's common sense that housing town fans in the Osmond for those games would probably cause trouble. I am a bit disappointed at the boards seemingly laissez-faire attitude towards additional capacity, especially as I now fall under the category of fans that can't attend often now.
Posted by: quebec38, August 7, 2022, 9:40am; Reply: 86
Probably the tightest angle you’ll see a goal scored from all season. I think Max has gone to cover the near post expecting it drilled there but it’s a hell of a finish to find the side netting at the far post. Sometimes stuff just happens. I didn’t realise at the time how far wide Hoskins was, got to take your hat off to him really.
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, August 7, 2022, 10:04am; Reply: 87
Quoted from jamesgtfc


If I can't get to the rare few games I can make on a Saturday because the Osmond is out of bounds due to stupid idiots gobbing off I won't be happy.

A total home sell out yesterday yet 1900 empty seats in the ground. Appreciate there were probably 700 empty seats in the Northampton section of the Osmond but did it look like 1200 home seats were missing?


We are repeating ourselves on here so many times on this - whether the nominal capacity is 9000 or not, if you look at the biggest declared attendances since we went all seater, but without the extra seats in the corners - its about 8,400. So 1250 empty seats not 2000. 700 in the away end, in our part of the Osmond some seats we not available for sale - front two rows, corporate seats behind the directors box weren't full, seats behind the now bigger technical area not used, and then alot of empty seats scattered around that have been sold to STH. I said about 7,200 before it was announced - working back from the Stockport attendance of 7,850 last season when STH were able to resell their seats. 450 fewer in the Osmond and then more STH missing because of holidays.

Posted by: immariner, August 7, 2022, 10:53am; Reply: 88
Quoted from quebec38
Probably the tightest angle you’ll see a goal scored from all season. I think Max has gone to cover the near post expecting it drilled there but it’s a hell of a finish to find the side netting at the far post. Sometimes stuff just happens. I didn’t realise at the time how far wide Hoskins was, got to take your hat off to him really.


It was a very accurate finish but I just felt like Crocombe could have come out or having decided to stay put, stood a yard to his right to cover both the far post finish and still be able to cover the near post. His positioning made Hoskins' mind up effectively. I'm certainly no gk keeper though so perhaps the best position from such an angle was to be stood directly on his post
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, August 7, 2022, 10:57am; Reply: 89
It was so tight he probably thought the main danger was at the near post. Maybe could have done a bit better but it was a very good finish.

I really enjoyed yesterday and looking forward to the season. Think we'll be very solid once they settle and great to see two really attacking fullbacks on the charge. Looked a bit toothless at times but with Orsi, Khan and McAtee up come back and hopefully another two to come in options should start to look a bit better
Posted by: aldi_01, August 7, 2022, 11:10am; Reply: 90
I think we’re doing the lad who scored a disservice, he was by far and away their best player and he scored an excellent goal in a game where they had 1, May be 2 chances.
Posted by: Lost in Lincoln, August 7, 2022, 11:19am; Reply: 91
Quoted from aldi_01
I think we’re doing the lad who scored a disservice, he was by far and away their best player and he scored an excellent goal in a game where they had 1, May be 2 chances.


Can't disagree, it's super critical to blame Crocombe, it was a brilliant finish, hard and low - albeit it was alot closer and wider than it looked from my seat in the main stand.
Posted by: TheultimateMariner, August 7, 2022, 11:51am; Reply: 92
Quoted from aldi_01
I think we’re doing the lad who scored a disservice, he was by far and away their best player and he scored an excellent goal in a game where they had 1, May be 2 chances.


Cracking finish, from a cracking player. He looked like the only player on their team who might do something.
I was looking at the Northampton forum for their view of the game last night, and some people were saying they don’t think he’s good enough to start every game. I would happily take him here
Posted by: chaos33, August 7, 2022, 11:53am; Reply: 93
Anyone criticising Crocombe for that goal is, frankly, deluded.
Posted by: mimma, August 7, 2022, 2:09pm; Reply: 94
If Crocombe tries to cover the far post and gets beaten at his near post you say he shouldn't have left a gap. He gave their player the hardest choice of having to be hard and accurate to score at the far post. Unfortunately he was both, and he hit it early before Crocombe could set himself. Hats off for a brilliant finish rather than any criticism of Crocombe
Posted by: rancido, August 7, 2022, 2:10pm; Reply: 95
Quoted from ginnywings


I heard someone behind me say that Crocombe shouldn't be getting beat from that angle and thinking about it, he has a point. So you weren't the only one.

Great finish though, which I think took everyone by surprise as he hit it hard and early.


It may have taken Crocombe by surprise as well as everyone else.
Posted by: ska face, August 7, 2022, 2:19pm; Reply: 96
Wasn’t there yesterday so going off the highlights, but looks like Crocombe got down really well to that effort in the first half. I think he’ll be a good asset this season.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 7, 2022, 2:30pm; Reply: 97
It was a great hit. Credit to Hoskins, zero blame on Max.
Posted by: chaos33, August 7, 2022, 2:52pm; Reply: 98
Quoted from mimma
If Crocombe tries to cover the far post and gets beaten at his near post you say he shouldn't have left a gap. He gave their player the hardest choice of having to be hard and accurate to score at the far post. Unfortunately he was both, and he hit it early before Crocombe could set himself. Hats off for a brilliant finish rather than any criticism of Crocombe


This. It was indeed a superb piece of technique. Credit to the finisher, no blame on the keeper. I doubt many if any would have stopped that.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, August 7, 2022, 3:47pm; Reply: 99
Quoted from mimma
Mad scramble in their box, ball cleared Town player gets the ball and about to cross it when the ref notices one of their players rolling about in the area. He blows so he can be treated. Restarts the game by giving a drop ball to their keeper. Unbelievable


I wanted to check I was right to be fuming about it. Jan is a pro ref and gives the perfect answer but is doesn’t stop my ire. Ref simply got a massive call wrong and cheated us out of a chance for a winner.

https://twitter.com/dutchreferee/status/1556287869064515585?s=21&t=1dvroxsXlo-7nhJrpEV1ag
Posted by: ginnywings, August 7, 2022, 3:56pm; Reply: 100
Quoted from TheultimateMariner


Cracking finish, from a cracking player. He looked like the only player on their team who might do something.
I was looking at the Northampton forum for their view of the game last night, and some people were saying they don’t think he’s good enough to start every game. I would happily take him here


Really?

They must have some cracking players in the wings then, because he was their stand out.

He's already scored three goals this season and but for him, they wouldn't have 4 points on the board.
Posted by: lukeo, August 7, 2022, 4:02pm; Reply: 101
Quoted from Theimperialcoroner


I wanted to check I was right to be fuming about it. Jan is a pro ref and gives the perfect answer but is doesn’t stop my ire. Ref simply got a massive call wrong and cheated us out of a chance for a winner.

https://twitter.com/dutchreferee/status/1556287869064515585?s=21&t=1dvroxsXlo-7nhJrpEV1ag


Surely in that situation if it's in the box and the attackers have it.. they should get to take a drop ball at the closest point outside the box but 5 yards back (example)
Posted by: 123614 (Guest), August 7, 2022, 4:11pm; Reply: 102
So where was the ball when the ref stopped play?
Posted by: HerveJosse, August 7, 2022, 4:15pm; Reply: 103
With this rule change unless the head injury is an obviously serious one and you can usually tell then surely the ref can afford to let the game continue for the 5 or 10 seconds needed for the potential goal scoring situation to play out . A mix of poor referring and another victory for health and safety brigade.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, August 7, 2022, 4:20pm; Reply: 104
Quoted from 123614
So where was the ball when the ref stopped play?


MD had control of the ball at the time and I'm sure he was about yard outside the box at the time
What irks me is these poor refs are never accountable for their sub par performances and should a manager/player openly slate saud performance they get in hot water!...
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 7, 2022, 4:35pm; Reply: 105
Quoted from HerveJosse
With this rule change unless the head injury is an obviously serious one and you can usually tell then surely the ref can afford to let the game continue for the 5 or 10 seconds needed for the potential goal scoring situation to play out . A mix of poor referring and another victory for health and safety brigade.


Even in the unlikely event it is a serious head injury allowing a few seconds to see if a goal occurs would not make any difference.  It is just a cheats charter.
Posted by: mimma, August 7, 2022, 4:55pm; Reply: 106
Exactly!
Posted by: immariner, August 7, 2022, 6:00pm; Reply: 107
Quoted from mimma
If Crocombe tries to cover the far post and gets beaten at his near post you say he shouldn't have left a gap. He gave their player the hardest choice of having to be hard and accurate to score at the far post. Unfortunately he was both, and he hit it early before Crocombe could set himself. Hats off for a brilliant finish rather than any criticism of Crocombe


That may be true but that doesn't consider whether Crocombe should have closed Hoskins down making the goal a smaller target, as I feel like that made Hoskins' mind up to hit it early. As I said, not taking anything away from the striker, he took the opportunity presented to him with aplomb and Max is a cracking keeper generally. I did say it was probably overly nit-picking from someone whose only goalkeeping experience is a few Sunday league games between the sticks so take my critique seriously at your peril!
Posted by: Les Brechin, August 8, 2022, 10:14am; Reply: 108
Another thing, not sure if this has been mentioned earlier, but there should have been about a dozen handball offences against their keeper as he wasn't releasing the ball from his hands until he was outside his area from the kicks he was taking. That was the fault of the lino though rather than the referee.
Posted by: Son of Cod, August 8, 2022, 10:19am; Reply: 109
Anyone else notice the post on the match thread on the Northampton forum claiming they took 41,000 to the 97/98 playoff final?
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, August 8, 2022, 10:29am; Reply: 110
Quoted from Son of Cod
Anyone else notice the post on the match thread on the Northampton forum claiming they took 41,000 to the 97/98 playoff final?


I think it was 40k from memory.
Posted by: pen penfras, August 8, 2022, 10:35am; Reply: 111
Quoted from Les Brechin
Another thing, not sure if this has been mentioned earlier, but there should have been about a dozen handball offences against their keeper as he wasn't releasing the ball from his hands until he was outside his area from the kicks he was taking. That was the fault of the lino though rather than the referee.


He appeared to do that a few times. Crocombe did at least once too.

Wasn't impressed with Crocombe's distribution the last 2 games. It looked really good last season, but so many balls were pumped long and nowhere near our players.
Posted by: Mariner56, August 8, 2022, 10:36am; Reply: 112
Quoted from Les Brechin
Another thing, not sure if this has been mentioned earlier, but there should have been about a dozen handball offences against their keeper as he wasn't releasing the ball from his hands until he was outside his area from the kicks he was taking. That was the fault of the lino though rather than the referee.


In fairness, Crocombe does this a lot too, another thing that is regularly let go by officials
Posted by: Abdul19, August 8, 2022, 10:54am; Reply: 113
Aidan Davison at Port Vale is the only keeper to have ever been punished for this in Football League history.
Posted by: Jarmo.Is.God, August 8, 2022, 11:33am; Reply: 114
Happy with the performance overall.
Defence looked solid, Hylton didn't have a sniff.

Efetee was a bit disappointing, but i think he will grow into the league and do just fine.

Kiernan was good, with Hoolahan my MOTM by a mile

I don't know if their defence has changed much, but they conceeded the least amount of goals last season.
We made them look all over the place at times, and without repeating everything,everyone says. We are 1 striker away from being a very good team.

Hopefully Wearne starts tomorrow
Posted by: mariner83, August 8, 2022, 12:09pm; Reply: 115
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Wasn't impressed with Crocombe's distribution the last 2 games.


At least his kicks managed to stay in BP on Saturday
Posted by: Son of Cod, August 8, 2022, 1:18pm; Reply: 116


I think it was 40k from memory.

Oh wow, just looked it up. Didn't realise they had that many there that's insanely good support. I thought the total was about 52,000 or something for some reason hence me thinking that was nonsense as it would have meant we only took about 11,000.
Posted by: Heisenberg, August 8, 2022, 1:24pm; Reply: 117
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Oh wow, just looked it up. Didn't realise they had that many there that's insanely good support. I thought the total was about 52,000 or something for some reason hence me thinking that was nonsense as it would have meant we only took about 11,000.


We took 20,000,  and Northampton definitely did take just over 40,000, it’s true.
Posted by: Maringer, August 8, 2022, 1:29pm; Reply: 118
I seem to think we took quite a few more to Wembley for the earlier Trophy game against Bournemouth than to the play-off final itself? No surprise we didn't take as many down again just weeks later, but it was a very good turnout from Northampton, although it is was less than 90 minutes down the road for them to travel.
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