GO just go Paul hurst this simply isn’t working

This is a long, poor run of form and he just doesn't seem to have any answers (other than another signing)

Time is up

Not a cat in hell's chance of us making the play-offs without a dramatic change so we might as well do something drastic.

Really do not understand how anyone can justify keeping him. Just pure delusion at this point. That record in the conference just stinks

Could just about put up with a bad run if there was something obviously being built for next season. But the signings this window have been loans or short term contracts. There is no obvious game plan and 11 years after first getting a job managing Town he STILL hasn't worked out a plan B.

Got to go and I think that will be that for his managerial career.

Hurst, a bit like Buckley in his first spell, brought a lot of good players to the club when he first came, mainly from lower down. He built his reputation on those players and took a lot of them with him to Shrewsbury for more success. But they have largely stopped playing now and he doesn't seem to be able to pluck the type of player from obscurity that he used to be able to. Recruitment was always his strongest card but his powers there are waning and exposing other areas where he is not so strong more.

If we were looking for a manager, would we be considering one with a 10% winning record over more than 100 games or one with a most recent record of one win in 14 for a club of our size in the National League?

If the answer is no to both questions, then why is Paul Hurst still our manager?

Good time to get someone new in. Plenty of time to assess squad for next season without any danger of getting relegated. This continues under Hurst any longer, it lessens our chances of promotion next season by reducing the time a new manager has to prepare..

Quoted from Bigdog

Good time to get someone new in. Plenty of time to assess squad for next season without any danger of getting relegated. This continues under Hurst any longer, it reduces our chances of promotion next season by reducing the time a new manager has to prepare..

spot on.

Who though? Who?

Quoted from sydney

Who though? Who?

I'd take Mr Blobby at this point

Lose at home to the mighty Wealdstone next Saturday and surely even the new owners will think Hurst's time is up.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Lose at home to the mighty Wealdstone next Saturday and surely even the new owners will think Hurst's time is up.

I genuinly think we'd have to drop into the relegation places or the crowds dropped below the 3000 mark before they'd pull the trigger

Quoted from sydney

Who though? Who?

Someone in a senior coaching role from further up the leagues that's ready for their chance in management. Higher success rate than the usual merry-go-round..

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

I'd take Mr Blobby at this point

With Noel Edmonds has his assistant?

Quoted from arryarryarry

With Noel Edmonds has his assistant?

That would just be stupid. He'd be head of scouting  ;D

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

That would just be stupid. He'd be head of scouting  ;D

He'd probably do a better job as a no.9.

Quoted from sydney

Who though? Who?

these guys arent stupid. i wonder if Mark Palmer might have a new project??


although ,lets be honest, theres not a cat in hells chance that he will be sacked after a narrow 1-0 away defeat to moneybags fc

It's very easy to get behind a team and manager during spells of good form but when things aren't going so well is when we really need everyone to stick together.

Sacking our manager now will get us nowhere and is exactly how a poorly run club would react.

Just because we are a so called big club with a rich history it doesn't mean we have the right to be at the top of the league.

This league is very competitive and as such really tough to get out of without buying your way out.

We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want.

If we can stay patient and really get behind the team it will help massively.

The future is really bright at this football club. Let's not let short term frustration get in the way of our long term goals.

Keep smiling people, success is there if we are prepared to wait for it!

UTMM

Quoted from BackHeelTony

“We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want”

Err…..He was here for 6 years? and if it wasn’t for a moment of madness from a Braintree defender to give us a penalty in the playoffs we’d still be there.

He’s not proven at all and the previous seasons we were well off the mark at being anywhere near getting automatic promotion.

Quoted from BackHeelTony

It's very easy to get behind a team and manager during spells of good form but when things aren't going so well is when we really need everyone to stick together.

Sacking our manager now will get us nowhere and is exactly how a poorly run club would react.

Just because we are a so called big club with a rich history it doesn't mean we have the right to be at the top of the league.

This league is very competitive and as such really tough to get out of without buying your way out.

We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want.

If we can stay patient and really get behind the team it will help massively.

The future is really bright at this football club. Let's not let short term frustration get in the way of our long term goals.

Keep smiling people, success is there if we are prepared to wait for it!

UTMM

Are you having a laugh? Take a look at the players we have contracted for next season :-

http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=4202

Sam Russell     March 2020     3 years     May 2023

David Longe-King     2 years     May 2023

Shaun Pearson     2 years     May 2023

Luke Waterfall     January       May 2022  +1 year to commence at end of current contract

John McAtee     June 2021     2 years (based on press reports)     May 2023

Jordan Maguire-Drew     1½ years     May 2023

Do you think those players are going to get us promotion. Out of those I would only expect McAtee and Maguire-Drew to be anywhere good enough to be part of a promotion winning team.

Quoted from BackHeelTony

It's very easy to get behind a team and manager during spells of good form but when things aren't going so well is when we really need everyone to stick together.

Sacking our manager now will get us nowhere and is exactly how a poorly run club would react.

Just because we are a so called big club with a rich history it doesn't mean we have the right to be at the top of the league.

This league is very competitive and as such really tough to get out of without buying your way out.

We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want.

If we can stay patient and really get behind the team it will help massively.

The future is really bright at this football club. Let's not let short term frustration get in the way of our long term goals.

Keep smiling people, success is there if we are prepared to wait for it!

UTMM

I agree with this.

Quoted from GrimRob

Hurst, a bit like Buckley in his first spell, brought a lot of good players to the club when he first came, mainly from lower down. He built his reputation on those players and took a lot of them with him to Shrewsbury for more success. But they have largely stopped playing now and he doesn't seem to be able to pluck the type of player from obscurity that he used to be able to. Recruitment was always his strongest card but his powers there are waning and exposing other areas where he is not so strong more.

His only real recruitment tactic that worked back in the day was go to the league below and sing the highest young scorer.
We have attacking players at this club that he’s petrified of playing , I said when he came back that if he could have a forward standing with the ball at the corner flag for the entire game he’d be happy .
I’m not happy with having to wait another six years for us to get lucky enough to get back in the league

Quoted from BackHeelTony

It's very easy to get behind a team and manager during spells of good form but when things aren't going so well is when we really need everyone to stick together.

Sacking our manager now will get us nowhere and is exactly how a poorly run club would react.

Just because we are a so called big club with a rich history it doesn't mean we have the right to be at the top of the league.

This league is very competitive and as such really tough to get out of without buying your way out.

We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want.

If we can stay patient and really get behind the team it will help massively.

The future is really bright at this football club. Let's not let short term frustration get in the way of our long term goals.

Keep smiling people, success is there if we are prepared to wait for it!

UTMM

The same things have been said on here for the last 20 odd years in 4 different leagues , accepting long runs of terrible form by our fans has played just as Big a part in our downfall as the poor management of this club.
I’m not happy waiting for at least another six years to return to the league

Quoted from Sussexmariner

Err…..He was here for 6 years? and if it wasn’t for a moment of madness from a Braintree defender to give us a penalty in the playoffs we’d still be there.

He’s not proven at all and the previous seasons we were well off the mark at being anywhere near getting automatic promotion.

But there was a moment of madness so your point isn’t relevant. In the same vane as , we had a huge chance last night and didn’t take it…football is about chances, sometimes you get them and take them, other times you don’t.

I mean you could probably point the finger at the club for learning nothing whilst in non league and getting promoted back in to league 2 and making all the same mistakes over and over again which in turn led to our relegation…again.

Quoted from aldi_01

I mean you could probably point the finger at the club for learning nothing whilst in non league and getting promoted back in to league 2 and making all the same mistakes over and over again which in turn led to our relegation…again.

And it means that the euphoric celebrations that day are now tarnished somewhat because there was an arrogance (imho) that everything would fall into our lap and we wouldn’t have to work at it.

And therein lies the problem that those at the top seemingly took their foot off the gas and decided that the best method was to pat themselves on the back and smoke each other’s cigars, because that’s what they’d always done. Their positions were safe because all we had was tyre kickers wanting to invest

Call me old fashioned, but I always thought the most important thing a football club could do is to win football matches.

This lot seem asleep at the wheel. The board, the manager and the players. The number of points we’ve thrown away in the last three months is mind blowing and no one seems accountable.

Quoted from BackHeelTony

It's very easy to get behind a team and manager during spells of good form but when things aren't going so well is when we really need everyone to stick together.

Sacking our manager now will get us nowhere and is exactly how a poorly run club would react.

Just because we are a so called big club with a rich history it doesn't mean we have the right to be at the top of the league.

This league is very competitive and as such really tough to get out of without buying your way out.

We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want.

If we can stay patient and really get behind the team it will help massively.

The future is really bright at this football club. Let's not let short term frustration get in the way of our long term goals.

Keep smiling people, success is there if we are prepared to wait for it!

UTMM

A poorly run club would stick with their current manager for the sake of continuity even when the manager has shown no signs of being able to stop an alarming slump in form over a third of a season.

Quoted from Sussexmariner

Err…..He was here for 6 years? and if it wasn’t for a moment of madness from a Braintree defender to give us a penalty in the playoffs we’d still be there.

He’s not proven at all and the previous seasons we were well off the mark at being anywhere near getting automatic promotion.

Add to that Monkhouse getting injured forcing him to abandon his hoof ball to the left wing, to the man double and sometimes tripple marked for it to be headed down strategy

Quoted from BackHeelTony

It's very easy to get behind a team and manager during spells of good form but when things aren't going so well is when we really need everyone to stick together.

Sacking our manager now will get us nowhere and is exactly how a poorly run club would react.

Just because we are a so called big club with a rich history it doesn't mean we have the right to be at the top of the league.

This league is very competitive and as such really tough to get out of without buying your way out.

We have a proven manager at this level who is building a squad to achieve the promotion we all want.

If we can stay patient and really get behind the team it will help massively.

The future is really bright at this football club. Let's not let short term frustration get in the way of our long term goals.

Keep smiling people, success is there if we are prepared to wait for it!

UTMM

Forgot to add:

Love from Paul Hurst.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Add to that Monkhouse getting injured forcing him to abandon his hoof ball to the left wing, to the man double and sometimes tripple marked for it to be headed down strategy

This gets peddled so often I get confused with GTFC 2015/16 with John Beck's Cambridge of the late 80s early 90s.

Also, when fans reminisce about Billy Whitehurst and John Fashanu, we can tell them about the sharp elbowed colossus that was Andy Monkhouse.

More rewriting of history than Stalinist Russia.

Bloke gets us promoted but it was all luck…..

flipping despair at you lot

Quoted from smokey111

This gets peddled so often I get confused with GTFC 2015/16 with John Beck's Cambridge of the late 80s early 90s.

Also, when fans reminisce about Billy Whitehurst and John Fashanu, we can tell them about the sharp elbowed colossus that was Andy Monkhouse.

More rewriting of history than Stalinist Russia.

Yep I also used to get us confused -
Although to be fair, completely bypassing the midfield every game did put us top of the league for a week or two soo it wasn't all bad

Quoted from arryarryarry

With Noel Edmonds has his assistant?

Deal

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Add to that Monkhouse getting injured forcing him to abandon his hoof ball to the left wing, to the man double and sometimes tripple marked for it to be headed down strategy

Such a peddled myth…

Quoted from smokey111

This gets peddled so often I get confused with GTFC 2015/16 with John Beck's Cambridge of the late 80s early 90s.

Also, when fans reminisce about Billy Whitehurst and John Fashanu, we can tell them about the sharp elbowed colossus that was Andy Monkhouse.

More rewriting of history than Stalinist Russia.

It's not a myth though.  It happened, for a long time.  It brought great success early on and should have been a great alternative at any point of the game.  But it became the only tactic.  For all the criticism of him, Monkhouse was incredibly good in the air.  I'm actually struggling to recall any winger that I've seen who was as effective in the air as him.  Against, usually, much smaller right-backs he was completely dominant.  But it became easy to defend against, be it a centre-back playing in that role (because Monkhouse was never going to run at the defence with pace) or leaving him free to have the header knowing you've got an extra man to pick up the second ball.

Quoted from diehardmariner

It's not a myth though.  It happened, for a long time.  It brought great success early on and should have been a great alternative at any point of the game.  But it became the only tactic.  For all the criticism of him, Monkhouse was incredibly good in the air.  I'm actually struggling to recall any winger that I've seen who was as effective in the air as him.  Against, usually, much smaller right-backs he was completely dominant.  But it became easy to defend against, be it a centre-back playing in that role (because Monkhouse was never going to run at the defence with pace) or leaving him free to have the header knowing you've got an extra man to pick up the second ball.

ONLY tactic. I seem to remember Bogle and Amond got around 50 goals, Disley was bombing on from midfield. Arnold got the occasional worldy and Nolan was pulling the strings in the centre of the pitch post Christmas.