Does anyone know how next year's wage cap is going to work .I fear the worse if Town can only spend the same as teams near big cities ,who can recruit players from premier and championship teams at low wages. Are there any loopholes such as appearance ,bonus payments etc .If we can't pay more then youngsters living at home or on first mortgage are going to stay in their area .

Quoted from Norseman

Does anyone know how next year's wage cap is going to work .I fear the worse if Town can only spend the same as teams near big cities ,who can recruit players from premier and championship teams at low wages. Are there any loopholes such as appearance ,bonus payments etc .If we can't pay more then youngsters living at home or on first mortgage are going to stay in their area .

This is easy. Town don’t play by the rules, refuse to take part in such a scheme, legal challenge, inevitable win as a precedent was set in the EFL, and we challenge for promotion.

A wage cap is not legally enforceable.

Quoted from Heisenberg

This is easy. Town don’t play by the rules, refuse to take part in such a scheme, legal challenge, inevitable win as a precedent was set in the EFL, and we challenge for promotion.

A wage cap is not legally enforceable.

That's good as I feel we would be at a disadvantage

Quoted from Heisenberg

This is easy. Town don’t play by the rules, refuse to take part in such a scheme, legal challenge, inevitable win as a precedent was set in the EFL, and we challenge for promotion.

A wage cap is not legally enforceable.

We are not going to be doing that. JS has already expressed his support for this ‘levelling down’ in one of his Guardian articles

Quoted from HerveJosse

We are not going to be doing that. JS has already expressed his support for this ‘levelling down’ in one of his Guardian articles

Well if you don’t spend big, you stay down.

Be careful what you wish for. We might think scrapping it would benefit us but it could potentially allow other clubs to acquire owners with a few million quid to throw away on a pet project.

Loads of ways round it. Signing on fees, payment for other duties, bonuses

So after the ‘wage cap’ what is the next step.
Equal training facilities. ?
After all why should rich clubs be able to spend millions on training grounds etc.?  That’s not fair. Or clubs that can afford to stay in decent hotels the night before an away game. That’s not fair. Or clubs that can afford to pay for a nutritionist etc. That’s  not fair.

I wouldn’t want a sugar daddy or billionaire owners for which we are some kind of fashion statement. But you can’t limit every club. That genuinely isn’t fair.

UTM

In my opinion, some of the bigger clubs will spend on infrastructure but in the main it will push other costs up.

Lets say the salary cap is set at £900k but we currently spend £1.5m on wages, we have a £600k surplus compared to a club like Boreham Wood who spend £900k or less on wages.

How we spend that £900k is down to us so we might be willing to pay a specific player £2k per week whilst other teams might think he's only worth £1.5k per week and there will always be an element of that.

When it comes to players under contract elsewhere though, clubs are going to know that we have a £600k burning hole so £50k for the next Omar Bogle becomes £250k and so on. Clubs will start putting wives in well paid jobs for doing next to nothing, to compensate for what they can't offer the player. Unsure if signing on fees and taxable benefits like cars, houses etc are within the £900k limit but I can see those increasing if they aren't.

Any salary cap in my opinion should be a percentage of turnover with loopholes that allow owners to inflate that income with over inflated sponsorships closed.

Toilet cleaner required  £100K per annum. Must have footballing experience and show willingness to play as an amateur for our Social Club team in the National League

Advisory role for owner's company. 1 hour per week for megabucks. Seems to work for (mostly) Tory MPs.

Quoted from Maringer

Advisory role for owner's company. 1 hour per week for megabucks. Seems to work for (mostly) Tory MPs.

Ffs must we get a political reference into every fu(king thread on here. It’s getting tedious now

Not wrong though, am I?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

In my opinion, some of the bigger clubs will spend on infrastructure but in the main it will push other costs up.

Lets say the salary cap is set at £900k but we currently spend £1.5m on wages, we have a £600k surplus compared to a club like Boreham Wood who spend £900k or less on wages.

How we spend that £900k is down to us so we might be willing to pay a specific player £2k per week whilst other teams might think he's only worth £1.5k per week and there will always be an element of that.

When it comes to players under contract elsewhere though, clubs are going to know that we have a £600k burning hole so £50k for the next Omar Bogle becomes £250k and so on. Clubs will start putting wives in well paid jobs for doing next to nothing, to compensate for what they can't offer the player. Unsure if signing on fees and taxable benefits like cars, houses etc are within the £900k limit but I can see those increasing if they aren't.

Any salary cap in my opinion should be a percentage of turnover with loopholes that allow owners to inflate that income with over inflated sponsorships closed.

You make some good points about wives and partners. Any item bought in the wife/partner's name is their property and not the players, likewise the wife/partner employed to help, say, in the club office on £10k per week is not part of the playing staff. There's a colander of holes out there to be exploited if a club wants to.

Quoted from HerveJosse

We are not going to be doing that. JS has already expressed his support for this ‘levelling down’ in one of his Guardian articles

He’s said no such thing in any of the articles I’ve read.

But if you’re not bullshitting, as I think you are, post the link to the article where he talks about levelling down.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

He’s said no such thing in any of the articles I’ve read.

But if you’re not bullshitting, as I think you are, post the link to the article where he talks about levelling down.

He's spoken in favour of wage caps, although not stated what that means in his vision

Quoted from pen penfras

He's spoken in favour of wage caps, although not stated what that means in his vision

So no talk of levelling down then?

The minute clubs launch legal challenges them we’ll see any wage caps lifted…

The 900k wage cap hasn't been confirmed. Clubs just voted in favour of it at an AGM. Remember, this same kind of cap was found to be unlawful when they tried it in the Football League.

Quoted from Son of Cod

The 900k wage cap hasn't been confirmed. Clubs just voted in favour of it at an AGM. Remember, this same kind of cap was found to be unlawful when they tried it in the Football League.

At least one of the big spenders Chesterfield, Stockport and Wrexham will be in this division next season too so I'm sure they will be appealing if it impacts them.

If Boreham Wood go up then they’ll join Sutton as successful under spenders which would indicate that good recruitment and management is equally important.

Ps I can’t be ars.ed right now to investigate further back but I’m sure I’ll get shot down in flames for not knowing anything about football or being_thick

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

If Boreham Wood go up then they’ll join Sutton as successful under spenders which would indicate that good recruitment and management is equally important.

Ps I can’t be ars.ed right now to investigate further back but I’m sure I’ll get shot down in flames for not knowing anything about football or being_thick

Barrow and Harrogate? Not sure what their finances were but I doubt they were at the level of the latest big spenders in div 5.

I thought 'levelling up' was were it was at nowadays.

A few years ago I heard a story of a top club wanting a young player who was considered to be outstanding.  They eventually got him (allegedly) by offering to pay off his parents mortgage in full.

There are always clever people who can find ways to legally circumvent the rules.

Quoted from ginnywings

Barrow and Harrogate? Not sure what their finances were but I doubt they were at the level of the latest big spenders in div 5.

I thought 'levelling up' was were it was at nowadays.

I think they both had a good amount of financial backing and were certainly one of the biggest spenders, but probably not to the same degree as Wrexham/Chesterfield/Stockport and so forth.