somebody needs to start it

Crocombe, Efete, Pearson, Waterfall, Longe-King, Crookes, Coke, Clifton, Fox, Bell, Taylor.

Subs: Revan, Sears, Maguire-Drew, John-Lewis, Scannell.

No Towler, Soussa or Bapaga in the squad. I,ll make the ice cubes for the meltdown thread tonight. Two wingers on the subs bench, who wont be used until after 65 minutes, so i guess its gonna be the long ball to Taylor , where we lose possession, it dont look good to me im afraid, hope im proved wrong.

If I were chesterfield looking at that, I’d think we’re playing a team very afraid of us. Let’s see how it goes, but the positive hurst from the beginning of the season is a distant memory

which Humberside radio is it on - can't go - fcking isolating

Quoted from dicko995

No Towler, Soussa or Bapaga in the squad. I,ll make the ice cubes for the meltdown thread tonight. Two wingers on the subs bench, who wont be used until after 65 minutes, so i guess its gonna be the long ball to Taylor , where we lose possession, it dont look good to me im afraid, hope im proved wrong.

Sousa Injured


Bapaga just odd. He was finding form.

Quoted from dicko995

No Towler, Soussa or Bapaga in the squad. I,ll make the ice cubes for the meltdown thread tonight. Two wingers on the subs bench, who wont be used until after 65 minutes, so i guess its gonna be the long ball to Taylor , where we lose possession, it dont look good to me im afraid, hope im proved wrong.

We've got the Coke - you provide the ice-cubes

Is that a 3-5-2 then?, with Efete and Crookes as WB?

Didnt know that Hagrid about Soussa, i just cant see our attacking options, as our midfield will be very busy with Chesterfields attacks, and cant see them helping Taylor much.

Dont look right to me at all  but stranger things have happened in football

Let's give it an hour till we kick off the negative stuff boys and girls. Looks like he's trying to tighten up at the back and sneak a goal

Quoted from Hagrid

Sousa Injured


Bapaga just odd. He was finding form.

Was he??
When??

Think Sousa is/was ill, not injured and has missed some training.

Sears and scannell both on the bench, surprised me.

Quoted from TAGG

Was he??
When??

Ill sorry

Quoted from dicko995

No Towler, Soussa or Bapaga in the squad. I,ll make the ice cubes for the meltdown thread tonight. Two wingers on the subs bench, who wont be used until after 65 minutes, so i guess its gonna be the long ball to Taylor , where we lose possession, it dont look good to me im afraid, hope im proved wrong.

Give em a chance, a ball hasn’t been kicked yet.

Pleased to see Scannell on the bench, not so pleased to see 5 at the back at home.

Hopefully we can restore a little pride in our performances at the very least

Quite fancy us (hope?) for us to get at least a point out of this today

He's gone for experience, which is what he always does when he's in a tight spot.

Bring on Scannell - let him do something for his money

Quoted from pontoonlew

Pleased to see Scannell on the bench, not so pleased to see 5 at the back at home.

Hopefully we can restore a little pride in our performances at the very least

It can be quite an attacking way to play if coached that way

But will it be coached that way

Sounds like Chesterfield are huffing and puffing but Crocombe hasn't had to make a save.

Town sound more composed than I thought they'd be

Southend beating Notts Cty 1 - 0

Come on Town!  I feel a goal coming.

Town certainly coming back into it, need to finish better.

Just been on the phone, did someone miss a big chance 5 minutes ago?

Quoted from buckstown

Just been on the phone, did someone miss a big chance 5 minutes ago?

Half chances Clifton and Bell

Quoted from buckstown

Just been on the phone, did someone miss a big chance 5 minutes ago?

Harry with a header - according to JT appeared to change his mind as to what to do apparently .  Bell had a shot just wide.

Good to see us having shots again.  

Notts Cty and Stockport both drawing, Boreham Wood winning.

How many different ways is Tondeur going to say Tshimanga's name?

Chimonger is my fave so far.

Quoted from immariner

How many different ways is Tondeur going to say Tshimanga's name?

Chimonger is my fave so far.

I'm waiting for fishmonger!

Half time at  0 - 0 is a good performance so far. All we need now is for a Town goal in the opening of the 2nd half to set us up for a win.

Coke and fox working hard. No real support for the front 2

Sounds like a fairly even game. After listening to JT last year and seeing what was actually going on I’m never sure quite what to believe anymore but Chesterfield sound dangerous.

Both cancelling each other out at the moment, max made 9ne good save that's all his had to do really.

First ten and last 10 minutes of the half they were on top without creating much. Pearson made a mistake with a header near the end which led to their only chance which Crocombe saved well. The middle part of the half, we were more of a threat though mostly on the break as we're not getting any settled possession at all. Clifton should have done better with his header, I think. Tried to put too much on it instead of placing it, not that it was all that easy. Have to hit the target there, I think. Bell has done quite well feeding off scraps, Taylor not getting enough of the ball because the gap between the forwards and midfield is too big.

Chesterfield look an efficient team. Big and strong at the back, a bit of ability here and there and well-drilled. Lots of falling over, and inching (yarding?) forwards from free-kicks. We look like we'd settle for a point now.

An OK performance defensively, but we look a shadow of the team from earlier this season.

The ref being a bit of a sticker for wanting throw ins and freekicks to be taken at the correct spot!!
Very even  game first half I thought, at least we're creating chances and giving our all!!

Quoted from pontoonlew

Sounds like a fairly even game. After listening to JT last year and seeing what was actually going on I’m never sure quite what to believe anymore but Chesterfield sound dangerous.

Couldn’t make it today, and relying on radio commentary. I read that Chesterfield were launching their own station, 1866 Radio, today so I thought I’d give it a go. The coverage has been first class. The lead commentator really knows his stuff, and is not at all partisan in his comments. Rare quality for local radio.

Sounds a good performance and atmosphere.

6504 gate

Quoted from DB

6504 gate

Not bad considering our current run

Just over 5,000 Town fans, a good turnout given our form and the weather.

Quoted from DB

Just over 5,000 Town fans, a good turnout given our form and the weather.

What's up with the weather, we're hard Northerners!

Quoted from Spidey

What's up with the weather, we're hard Northerners!

It's too warm!  ;D

Oldham 5 Veggies 5
Bottom of league two versus top!

Fcuck

Dropped out of the play off places 😥

Damn

Sh!t another Notts Cty game  result

Quoted from Ipswin

Has Hurst's watch stopped? I make it 80 minutes gone Subs should have been 10 mins ago.

I smell a winner coming get LJL on as an extra attacker

Aaaalways too late with subs

Thats a real blow

They are dropping like a brick now ! 🥲

flipping awful defending as per usual

By the sounds of it, not deserved at all

3 centre-halves and not one of the fornicators marking him.

Quoted from WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP

Aaaalways too late with subs

So much for my feeling we were going to snatch the winner!

Oh well, no surprise really I suppose, pay yer money and get a striker who scores the all important goals

Super sub Scannell comes on to earn his wages for the first time in how many months?

He may have cost a small fortune, but he is looking a bargain right now.

Oh dear
What's going on?
Where do we go from here??

No surprise, we've created sod all in the second half, completely lacking a decent wide player.

Payne gets a good Town reception, scum bag.

Quoted from TAGG

Oh dear
What's going on?
Where do we go from here??

Out of the top. 7

We had been looking alright against Tshimanga FC.   The slide continues and mis table mediocrity beckons.

One chance, one goal. That's why you pay good money for a decent striker. Very simple really.

Beginning to settle in nicely mid-table. Not good enough I'm afraid.
Manager is too scared to go for it and plays ultra-defensive, even at home games.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Dropped out of the play off places 😥

and we've played more games than some of the other contenders

We should of scored there

Quoted from arryarryarry

Out of the top. 7

Think this will put us bang bottom of the form league.
Proper relegation form  :B

Notice lots of new/rare posters popping up. Quiet during the good spell. Trolls?

Hurst getting lots of boos from the Young's stand.

Chesterfield know how to win in a scrappy game, they can get something even when they have an off game, that’s the difference, how can we have a start like we did to now be relegation form, the excuses are starting to wear thin now.

Take a long hard look hurst   ,  you have to pay for a striker  and not in poundland  as usuall   looking forward to the next 6 years down here with you in charge

Quoted from cmackenzie4

Chesterfield know how to win in a scrappy game, they can get something even when they have an off game, that’s the difference, how can we have a start like we did to be relegation form, the excuses are starting to wear thin now.

Listening before the game, their previous two wins weren't deserved but they pulled it off.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Notice lots of new/rare posters popping up. Quiet during the good spell. Trolls?

Happy clapper

You spend money to save money ... that small outlay will probably be enough to get Tshimanga FC out of this league.

Hurst's position is untenable now.

Quoted from The_Chief

You spend money to save money ... that small outlay will probably be enough to get Tshimanga FC out of this league.

Hurst's position is untenable now.

Like i said before  he has to go  useless

Watch Lose Repeat
Life as a town fan at the moment
Mid table at best this year
We looked world beaters 8-10 games ago, what’s gone wrong?
Come on Town!!

Quoted from denni266

Happy clapper

boring

Quoted from arryarryarry

Hurst getting lots of boos from the Young's stand.

Can't be true,  he's the Messiah...  :X

Oh dear

Quoted from denni266

Happy clapper

When did I say I was happy?

Just pointing out there are a few people popping up on here to have a moan that seemed to be quiet during the good spell. Not you obviously. You moan all the time.

Quoted from Mayaman

boring

I agree  our team and manager are boring

Could just as easily been a sneaky 1-0 to Town if only Hurst had done his usual 70th minute substitution by going 4 at the back and got another striker on. He was playing it safe as usual hoping to hang on to what he'd got. (A 0-0 against Chesterfield would presumably been a fantastic result in his eyes)

Well playing safe hasn't got us anywhere recently, he's be no worse off if he went for it occasionally

Actually feel sick. Sounded like we stopped the rot, although we should have tested their keeper more.  Chesterfield sounded like a physical side and the ref let a lot of it slide.   Should have got the subs on sooner me thinks.

How much longer are the Hurst fan boys going to back him for? I don’t know how you survive this form but we’ll no doubt give him even more time to destroy the good feeling at the club.

We backed him, gave him full support and he’s had his time at this football club imo

Quoted from KingstonMariner

When did I say I was happy?

Just pointing out there are a few people popping up on here to have a moan that seemed to be quiet during the good spell. Not you obviously. You moan all the time.

What good spells ..  we lost again  and again and again ,, nice beer tho

Quoted from denni266

I agree  our team and manager are boring

You're not forced to support them.

Quoted from sydney

We looked world beaters 8-10 games ago, what’s gone wrong?

We weren't really that good and the opposition was average at best

Quoted from The_Chief

We had been looking alright against Tshimanga FC.   The slide continues and mis table mediocrity beckons.

We are looking at relegation if we don't improve soon. Same old story, Like the England cricket team... fall guys.

Quoted from Ipswin

We weren't really that good and the opposition was average at best

Wrexham average?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

When did I say I was happy?

Just pointing out there are a few people popping up on here to have a moan that seemed to be quiet during the good spell. Not you obviously. You moan all the time.

To be fair to whoever - in response to your second point - it'd be strange to moan about a side that is in the midst of a beginning to a season that ultimately read W10-D2-L1...whatever your longer-term view on the manager/boardroom/players.

Just as it would be unusual, perhaps even unjust, not to have people criticising a side/manager that has lost 6 from 7, is not scoring and is not playing well. (the only victory was an abject one against a bottom of table side, at home, else we could be 7/7 defeats)

Quoted from Mayaman

You're not forced to support them.

I am also not forced to accept  crap either , Dont seem to matter who ownes the club  we are stuck in poundland for players .. if your not going to put money in for players where it realy matters dont bother taking over ,, not interested in beer and fancy burgers and sprinklers etc   we need a decent team  and manager  and we have neither

Spend some flipping money

Most managers get the sack based on Hurst's last 6 results.
Nowhere near good enough, got a feeling groundhog day is quickly approaching!
At least 6 more years in this crap league if we don't change tack!


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Tashimango ( haven’t a clue how to spell it) cost £250k, Hurst said he’d looked at him but no way we were paying that amount, under Fenty or the new guys. Then Hurst asked how a club in financial trouble not long ago with no obvious new money coming in could afford to spend that amount.maybe questions to ask.

Can't say I heard any boos from the Upper Findus. Perhaps just not in my area?

We played OK against a strong team who were allowed to bully us by the referee. They were marginally the better team, I'd say, but definitely deserved a point. That said, our passing wasn't good enough today and the options on the bench didn't look strong enough.

A silly free-kick for Longe-King to give away which led to the goal, but you can't allow the league's top scorer to be unmarked there. Who was supposed to be watching him?

Terrible miss by Crookes at the end but I suppose that's why he's a defender.

The bad run continues with yet another game we shouldn't really have lost.

Quoted from Maringer

Can't say I heard any boos from the Upper Findus. Perhaps just not in my area?

We played OK against a strong team who were allowed to bully us by the referee. They were marginally the better team, I'd say, but definitely deserved a point. That said, our passing wasn't good enough today and the options on the bench didn't look strong enough.

A silly free-kick for Longe-King to give away which led to the goal, but you can't allow the league's top scorer to be unmarked there. Who was supposed to be watching him?

Terrible miss by Crookes at the end but I suppose that's why he's a defender.

The bad run continues with yet another game we shouldn't really have lost.

Good strikers find space; that's why they are good. Happens at every level.

He's a difference maker and today he was the difference. We fluffed our chances, he didn't. We deserved a draw but alas...

When we won all those games, people were talking promotion and now they are talking relegation. The truth is somewhere in between. Get some new blood in Jan and we can still have a good second half of the season and make the play offs.

Quoted from Mayaman

Actually feel sick. Sounded like we stopped the rot, although we should have tested their keeper more.  Chesterfield sounded like a physical side and the ref let a lot of it slide.   Should have got the subs on sooner me thinks.

We didn't test their keeper at all.

Sadly that sums up a typical Hurst performance.

Quoted from arryarryarry

We didn't test their keeper at all.

Sadly that sums up a typical Hurst performance.

You have to give Chesterfield some credit. They have conceded 15 all season and you can see why.

Page one, 2nd thread, told you all. You dont defend at home, whoever you play. Hurst has lost the players i reckon, no confidence after last 6 games, its the same story from 6 years ago im afraid, something is amiss with the players, too much youtube and Hursty promising and hiding things, time for a change, no good living in the past, bring on the crosses.

We didn't test their keeper but we still missed two absolute sitters that were harder to miss the target from entirely than score. No strength in depth in this squad, and that's ultimately down to Hurst's awful recruitment. Chesterfield have had loads of apparent first team players missing all season, but it's not mattered because they've signed capable backups and most importantly, an actual goalscorer. Meanwhile we brought on LJL to contribute absolutely nothing yet again.

Quoted from Chrisblor

We didn't test their keeper but we still missed two absolute sitters that were harder to miss the target from entirely than score. No strength in depth in this squad, and that's ultimately down to Hurst's awful recruitment. Chesterfield have had loads of apparent first team players missing all season, but it's not mattered because they've signed capable backups and most importantly, an actual goalscorer. Meanwhile we brought on LJL to contribute absolutely nothing yet again.

I mean he was on for what 8 minutes and all we did- as we did to Taylor and bell- is boot the ball up to them and expect them to chase or flick it on to no-one

First game I've been able to get to since Notts County. Felt like it was an even game and we held Chesterfield for large parts and created a few chances. Missing the technical ability of Hunt and Mcatee today as a lot of balls were long/high balls. We had a really good spell where Chesterfield apparently ran out of ideas and we were playing good football on the deck and got some chances. Ref was flipping awful and gave Chesterfield everything and us very little. Tshimanga had a very quiet game up until his goal. Heard the booing at the end of the game and dont agree with it. Yes its a bad run but we have to back the lads to turn it around. UTMM

Quoted from DB

Wrexham average?

They was when we played them

Chesterfield took the plunge in splashing out on Tshimanga and I am thinking they are most probably going up because of it.  He is a goal machine at this level and in tight games turns one point into three. And when they come to sell him they will make a small fortune. It was a shrewd investment. One we were not bold enough to take on.

All is not lost for us. We are sill in the hunt for a play off spot. If we can recapture the form from earlier in the season there is no reason why we can't make it into the top seven which, let's face it, most of us would have taken at the start of the season.    

Quoted from DB

Wrexham average?

Yes at that point they were, in fact compared to some they currently still are

We built up Wrexham to be better than they were because of how much they spent In fact they were no better than us and still aren't. Unlike a number of other.sides, we imagined we were world beaters, we weren't and we aren't and it will be a lot less painful when we admit it

Absolutely rubbish negative Hurst strikes again.
Going nowhere fast with Mr Charisma of garden worm!
Why does the new Chairman not see this.

I just got the impression listening to JT that they were there for the taking (with an undeserved 1-0 just like they did to us) Certainly they were no great shakes and weren't despite a £250000 striker going to smash us out of sight.

Hurst was simply too negative, too defensive, afraid to lose if you like (which is probably understandable given recent results) but once again he either didn't have the balls or simply wasn't bright enough to see that they were no better than us and if he had introduced another front man at around his favorite 70th minute we could well have nicked it.

Instead he saw the chance of a creditable 0-0 and tried to hang on

For his sake I hope he makes a better job of hanging onto his job, three or four more defeats down the line. Grow a pair for felicitations sake, you really have not nowt to lose any more

Quoted from RonMariner

Chesterfield took the plunge in splashing out on Tshimanga and I am thinking they are most probably going up because of it.  He is a goal machine at this level and in tight games turns one point into three. And when they come to sell him they will make a small fortune. It was a shrewd investment. One we were not bold enough to take on.

All is not lost for us. We are sill in the hunt for a play off spot. If we can recapture the form from earlier in the season there is no reason why we can't make it into the top seven which, let's face it, most of us would have taken at the start of the season.    

Nice post Ron but going on current form we've no chance of recreating that form, Hurst won't let it happen. The players have been shackled and he's gone negative.

Quoted from Ipswin

For his sake I hope he makes a better job of hanging onto his job, three or four more defeats down the line. Grow a pair for felicitations sake, you really have not nowt to lose any more

This is the thing I don’t get. We (rightly or wrongly) gave hurst another crack at management after his frankly disastrous spells elsewhere and (whether he can be held responsible or not) he signs a brand new team and takes us in to the relegation zone and then down. We (rightly or wrongly) stick with him and he must know this season is his last shot at being a professional footballer manager but despite a competitive budget, record attendances and a feel good factor not seen for decades he seems to be aiming not to lose home games rather than winning them.

Quoted from psgmariner

This is the thing I don’t get. We (rightly or wrongly) gave hurst another crack at management after his frankly disastrous spells elsewhere and (whether he can be held responsible or not) he signs a brand new team and takes us in to the relegation zone and then down. We (rightly or wrongly) stick with him and he must know this season is his last shot at being a professional footballer manager but despite a competitive budget, record attendances and a feel good factor not seen for decades he seems to be aiming not to lose home games rather than winning them.

Let's face facts, he's built a new squad of definitive better quality than last year that set off like a house on fire then somehow he's hit the brakes and reverted to type, that don't lose at all costs type.
We all know we have players that can play decent football, can score goals and I have no doubt, if we'd have played that Chesterfield team 10 games ago we'd have won.
Hurst has cocked things right up, he had a chance to put all his recent managerial wrongs right, but he's failing and failing bad imo now

Quoted from psgmariner

This is the thing I don’t get. We (rightly or wrongly) gave hurst another crack at management after his frankly disastrous spells elsewhere and (whether he can be held responsible or not) he signs a brand new team and takes us in to the relegation zone and then down. We (rightly or wrongly) stick with him and he must know this season is his last shot at being a professional footballer manager but despite a competitive budget, record attendances and a feel good factor not seen for decades he seems to be aiming not to lose home games rather than winning them.

Can’t disagree with any of that.
Stockwood stated in the Telegraph this week he new Hurst was the right man for the job as he shared the same values and vision. Not the best manager to get the best results, but because he shared the same values and vision. If it was a footballing decision Stockwood would have looked at Hursts recent form at Ipswich and Scunthorpe and politely declined. This is what concerns me about Stockwood. He’s all about the big sky stuff. As a simpleton I’m just about balls in the back of the net.

Close the door on your way out Hurst!
Take your negativity to another poor unsuspecting club.
I am all bored out by you!

Having a go at LJL seems a bit unnecessary as we barely got the ball out of our half after he came on as they successfully pinned us back following the goal. Though there is no doubt that Taylor is a superior player, it might have been a game where LJL could have achieved a bit more due to his bulk - their defenders might not have been able to get away with bullying and manhandling him as they did with Taylor.

The key difference between the sides for me today was the relative lack of pace of our team. A tight match where our defence won most of the balls into them, but they were able to pick up a lot more of the second balls due to the extra pace in midfield. Neither Clifton or Fox is quick (though not slow, either), but Coke is a little lacking. No real pace in our defence either. Most of their midfielders and forwards were quicker than they men they were facing. Pace is something I thought we were lacking at the start of the season (always seems to have been the case with Hurst's teams!) and I think we saw the difference it can make today. Noticeable that the gangly lad who came on for them and won the free-kick which led to the goal was pretty quick which I expect is why Longe-King went into him so clumsily.

Quoted from denni266

What good spells ..  we lost again  and again and again ,, nice beer tho

God you can be dense. Good spell at the start of the season.

Quoted from Oly1987

First game I've been able to get to since Notts County. Felt like it was an even game and we held Chesterfield for large parts and created a few chances. Missing the technical ability of Hunt and Mcatee today as a lot of balls were long/high balls. We had a really good spell where Chesterfield apparently ran out of ideas and we were playing good football on the deck and got some chances. Ref was flipping awful and gave Chesterfield everything and us very little. Tshimanga had a very quiet game up until his goal. Heard the booing at the end of the game and dont agree with it. Yes its a bad run but we have to back the lads to turn it around. UTMM

That was certainly the impression that the commentary team gave.

He let them get away with a lot of manhandling of players, that's for sure. Taylor getting dragged around everywhere and he missed loads of pushes and shoves off the ball. On the other hand, they fell over. A lot. I'm guessing the free-kick count reflects this?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

God you can be dense. Good spell at the start of the season.

Well am not that dense  i can see Hurst is a failure  and a waste of good money  and i have seen some crap since 1962

The manager set up for a point at home, not good that and we didn’t even get the f*****g point.

Though the players worked hard many of them have to do better than they did today.

They’ll go up and potentially win the league, they reminded me of the Cheltenham side that went up with us in 2016.