https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/145952147338789683 khouri in for coke. Revan keeps his place with crookes on the bench

Come on boys, let's get back to winning ways.

Starting XI - McKeown, Efete, Waterfall (c), Towler, Revan, Clifton, Khouri, Sousa, Hunt, Fox, Taylor.

Subs - Coke, John-Lewis, Bapaga, Longe-King, Crookes.

Your #GTFC team for today’s clash with Aldershot! Memo

Starting XI - McKeown, Efete, Waterfall (c), Towler, Revan, Clifton, Khouri, Sousa, Hunt, Fox, Taylor.

Subs - Coke, John-Lewis, Bapaga, Longe-King, Crookes.

Seems a strange line up to me, can't work out whos where in this formation people are today, maybe its just me

More adventurous midfield than of late

Quoted from golfer

More adventurous midfield than of late

Is it? 4 centre mids in there.

Is Sears injured ?

I thought it was 4-5-1, just assumed khouri would be out wide for some reason, hunt behind taylor

Theres definately going to be an idea behind it, Hurst doesnt just start a young player out the blue like that without there being a specific reason

Adventurous? 1 striker and 1 winger out of 10 outfield players.

I havent a clue on formation, Khouri been nowhere near the first time picture but we’ll see

We have two attacking full backs in there. A strong midfield, Sousa and Taylor up front.

Looks promising to me. But then I know sod all.

That’s come out of nowhere but we’ll see. Surprised there isn’t a start for Bapaga as the midfield looks a bit overdone against a pretty poor opposition but it might account for Sears’ absence, using Efete and Revan to push on up the pitch and try to overload on both wings with Sousa and Clifton. Don’t know enough about Khouri to know what role he’s playing.

Anyone got a link for commentary please
Utm

Well, if we can't win this, then that will say to me that we are not ruthless enough with the present squad to win the league.

They've lost all their home games to date and were behind in the abandoned one, so...

I mean in the top divisions, thats how alot of teams line up now with a row of 4 or 5 vague none specific midfielders/attackers and they all play in a much more dynamic way, but not sure thats possible at this level or that hurst has decided to try and turn us into man city within a week, but times ticking slowly and I thought id waste some time speculating with this post

I'm guessing Sousa playing the No.10 role, with Khouri and Clifton playing Left and Right Midfield

Fox was a 10 against Notts County. I wonder if Khouri is out wide or Clifton but we will find out soon enough.

Thought Khouri was a left side midfielder? Maybe him left and Erico on the right

Sir Alan coming up later on the Football Forum about the naming of the boardroom after him, worth a listen.

Cmon town. Please

Oh dear dear

FFS

Plenty of time yet, sounds like Revan is struggling

hopefully that bloody wakes us up a bit! What the hell is going on recently?

Just knew it, got a bad feeling about today's game  :o

Saving grace, plenty of time to come back.

I can accept a blip but losing to this lot is not on at all

All the bottoms 3 winning come on town let’s turn this around

Knew it ...the writing was on the wall after Tuesday when Wrexham smashed them....
Don't know what's happening, we surely can't be losing games due to missing just 1 man🤔🤔

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Plenty of time yet, sounds like Revan is struggling

He’s struggled in every game apart from bloody Bromsgrove

Quoted from RobDef1

What the hell is going on recently?

Simple, we are not as good as we thought we were and clearly too much depended on one man, McAtee

Ffs

Did seem strange leaving Crookes out been so consistent..

1-1

Goal town

Get in....1-1

Yess Harry

Clifton makes it 1-1

Quoted from RobDef1

hopefully that bloody wakes us up a bit! What the hell is going on recently?

Chopping and changing so many personnel every game doesn't seem to work does it?

Great response come on town

That's better! Should never have been behind to this lot C'man Town

Let’s start again shall we!

Get in! Amazing reply, let's go get another

UTM

Quoted from RobDef1

hopefully that bloody wakes us up a bit! What the hell is going on recently?

Better! Come on!!!

Harry Harry Harry

Revan looks out his depth

I have just ruined the speeches at a wedding…

is there going to be a hatful today!!

They Hit bar, not sure if a touch from Macca or not. The back 4 are all over the place

Sounds bad at the back

Sounds like Towler is having a bit of a wobble, he's been brilliant for us so let's hope it's a minor blip.

Lets get Crooks on sounds like we need some more height at the back.

Macca Macca Macca
Grimsbys number #1

Quoted from Ipswin

Simple, we are not as good as we thought we were and clearly too much depended on one man, McAtee

Football is all about confidence and momentum. It’s essentially the same talented players with the same work ethic, just need a result to rebuild that momentum.

Hurst chopping and changing cos of injuries and illness
Don't some on here ever read reports or watch his interviews?
Christ - it's been reported on enough!
When we were flying he hardly made any changes

Quoted from SouthLakesMariner

Football is all about confidence and momentum. It’s essentially the same talented players with the same work ethic, just need a result to rebuild that momentum.

Its not been 'the same talented players' recently though has it. So many changes for injury , suspension, Hurst having to chop and change plus 'resting' players etc

I have no doubt that the team we saw a few matches in would have won the last three and would be well on top today.

Quoted from Ipswin

Its not been 'the same talented players' recently though has it. So many changes for injury , suspension, Hurst chopping and changing and 'resting' players etc

I have no doubt that the team we saw a few matches in would have won the last three and would be well on top today.

Brilliant suggestion, I cant for the life of me work out why Hurst didn't break the law and play the covid players. Probably should just get rid of the medical staff and invite McAtee, crutches n all, to play 90 minute too!

Not sure if it needs a rocket or substitutions at half time, particularly left sided by the sounds of it.

Quoted from SouthLakesMariner

Football is all about confidence and momentum. It’s essentially the same talented players with the same work ethic, just need a result to rebuild that momentum.

It also turns out we had a very easy start to the season. And the games that didn't look easy (Wrexham and Stockport) came at the right time. Our team didn't look like a title winning one before the season kicked off and it doesn't now, no surprise really. The next five or so games will be telling as to whether we have an outside chance of the title or look like play offs at best.

Quoted from chaos33

Not sure if it needs a rocket or substitutions at half time, particularly left sided by the sounds of it.

Needs to get Crookes on (don't know why he didn't start)

Revan has been Awful, Towler shaky, Khouri and Hunt not in it. Really really poor 1st half

Quoted from Ipswin

Needs to get Crookes on (don't know why he didn't start)

The manger didn't pick him

Quoted from pen penfras

It also turns out we had a very easy start to the season. And the games that didn't look easy (Wrexham and Stockport) came at the right time. Our team didn't look like a title winning one before the season kicked off and it doesn't now, no surprise really. The next five or so games will be telling as to whether we have an outside chance of the title or look like play offs at best.

It is certainly a worry the way we are performing at the moment that we still have all the top teams to come

I'm here and every time they get an opportunity to cross (which is often) its heart in the mouth time

Over the course of a season injuries and illness will interrupt momentum fro time to time - all teams will go through bad patches. True, McAtee is a key player for us, but we’re not a one man team.

How predictable, town have a rocky run and the miserable girl privates arrive…

But Clifton is playing like a man possessed.  Brilliant stuff

Our Harry seems to be having a good game.

Clifton really has upped his game under Hurst hasn't he.

Quoted from aldi_01

How predictable, town have a rocky run and the miserable girl privates arrive…

And with them come the ones accepting poor performances.

What do you expect, people to celebrate us playing poorly?

Quoted from pontoonlew

And with them come the ones accepting poor performances.

What do you expect, people to celebrate us playing poorly?

Don’t think anyone said anything about accepting shite performances…

Unfortunately sounds to me that khouri is really struggling, think Hurst has to swap khouri out fur Crookes and push Revan further up ..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Unfortunately sounds to me that khouri is really struggling, think Hurst has to swap khouri out fur Crookes and push Revan further up ..

The only direction I’d like to see Revan pushed is back to under 18s football for a season

HT.....1-1

Come on Town

1 shot, 1 corner in 45 minutes. Buttttt,.we're in it. Needs to be much better second half though.

Don't know what Hursts plan is but just recently it's not working

Quoted from aldi_01

Don’t think anyone said anything about accepting shite performances…

But there’s hardly anything on here being said that’s unreasonable is there? People like yourself, as usual, put your fingers in your ears and shout down those who ring the alarm bells.

Quoted from pontoonlew

But there’s hardly anything on here being said that’s unreasonable is there? People like yourself, as usual, put your fingers in your ears and shout down those who ring the alarm bells.

I’m assuming you weren’t stood anywhere near me last week then?

It was more a comment of the fact the usual negative nellys appear when things are excrement…didn’t see nor hear from them for ten games…

What would you do Barra?

But what is wrong with accepting poor performances?? Obviously you strive to do your best each week but footballers are human.
Do you always nail everything you do every day of the week? Ever go for a round of golf and come away having had a bit of a stinker? Game of football on a Sunday morning where you couldn’t hit a barn door?
Get a sense of perspective. We’ve had a bit of a wobble the last few weeks but we could finish today top of the league with a second half goal.
Think about what the word SUPPORT means.

Swap Khouri for Crookes and push Revan on?
I’d like to have seen Bapaga start so the sooner he comes on the better.

Id get Khouri and Revan off

Bapaga and Crookes on

Hurst needs to do something about the left hand side.

For me he needs to at least take Khouri off and bring Crookes on and give Revan a go as a winger
I'd like the see him take both Khouri and Revan off and bring in Crookes and Bapa

I'll be honest I don't think he'll do either though, I think he'll leave it and hope the two young lads sort themselves out in the 2nd half

Get Crookes and Bapaga on and lets get back to the nearest we can to the side we had which was so successful earlier in the season.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m assuming you weren’t stood anywhere near me last week then?

It was more a comment of the fact the usual negative nellys appear when things are excrement…didn’t see nor hear from them for ten games…

And they’re entitled to their opinion, provided it’s not abuse, it’s a forum..

I’ve no doubt we’ve made a great start and we’re still right up there, but this ‘blip’ is becoming more than that, IMO

Quoted from chaos33

What would you do Barra?

In my humble opinion he should get Crookes on. The presence of Khouri appears to be having an unsettling effect.

Hurst frustrates me, no change at halftime even though we are struggling against one of the worst teams in league  :(

Crookes is our best left-back. Stick him on and that ought to settle the defence. Revan probably more use further forward at present, but Bapaga had a good spell not so long ago so bringing him on would seem to make sense.

Shall we play a game, who will he sub on 72 mins :)

Silly by sousa lucky with yellow

Sousa you blithering idiot! You got lucky there by the sounds of it.

Lucky boy.

Thats shocking illdiscipline

Two games in a row where we've been poor and PH hasn't looked to change it before or at half time, instead sticking to his guns and keeping faith in his players and tactics. Really hoping it pays off this time but I will admit it is a little hard not to be somewhat frustrated.

Get Sousa off and fine him.

Well we are playing the  whipping boys of the league   , what do we expect

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Shall we play a game, who will he sub on 72 mins :)

Think Hurst is gonna lose his cool and make one after 70

oh dear

This is absolutely shocking

flipping shite

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

Think Hurst is gonna lose his cool and make one after 70

Too late we're losing again.

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

Think Hurst is gonna lose his cool and make one after 70

Like to see Crookes and Bapaga for Revan and Kouri but Taylor not having a great day either

2-1 FFS, COME ON HURST MAKE A CHANGE!

Surprise, now he will make the change

flipping useless illegitimates 😡

Quoted from Ipswin

Like to see Crookes and Bapaga for Revan and Kouri but Taylor not having a great day either

He's not had anything to do anything with

This is getting perilously close to being dreadful. Since when did we become unable to defend set pieces

Not won at all season at flipping home not even got 1 point come on town step it up ffs

Good 'ol Grimsby. Handing Aldershot their first home win of the season. We are looking like a mid-table team, no better!

FFS!....Hurst master class...we are mere plebs yet could see our left side was weak, this is more than a blip now lads, it's f@cking worrying if I'm honest...

4 goals in 7 games.  Two against us.  This is more than a blip.

Other results going against us

The tide is turning . Bubble has exploded

Hurst has picked the wrong side here hopefully he'll front up to that at the end of the game.

What a contrast to the early season form and use of the squad. Should clearly have been changes before now.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

He's not had anything to do anything with

True but he's not been looking too hard either apparently

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

2-1 FFS, COME ON HURST MAKE A CHANGE!

He can't it's not time yet.

Can’t help but feel worried..

Wheres the team of battlers gone

Quoted from arryarryarry

He can't it's not time yet.

You mean its not 3-1 yet?

get this flipping left hand side off Hurst

Got the team wrong ffs crookes shouldn't of been benched and weres bapaga

Shambles

FFS change it!!!!!!!

Make some flipping subs ffs

Its nearly time ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Their fans are now singing "How sh#t must you be we're winning at home"

Jesus, about time

Town fans are so predictable…

hursts deffo got the one wrong, sound dreadful and tailors not even had a touch yet has he? these kinda results ill bite us on the bottom. town back to being town again.

So 2 attacking players on guaranteed he will take an attacker off

Where's that extra striker we need?

Wow, if we lose this, when does Hurst’s position become untenable? If 4 defeats turns into, say 8, he’d have to go, obviously.

I’m hoping we turn this game around, but right now we’re poor.

Quoted from aldi_01

Town fans are so predictable…

What on earth do you expect!?

We’re being drunk off the park by a team who’ve lost 10 in a row at home for intercourse sake

Quoted from promotion plaice

Where's that extra striker we need?

Doncaster 😂😂😂

Quoted from WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP

Wheres the team of battlers gone

Nothing to do with battling
It's a lack of quality
We are awful final third - several times we've had great positions and urine poor final ball
McAtee was a huge part of this

Fox is off.  Sounded a dire game for him.  What's happened to the form of some of these players?  When Fox got his chance, he played a blinder. Last few games he's done nothing.  According to JT , Hunt should have pulled the trigger and he didn't .  Previously, he had the balls to go for an injury time screamer.

There’s something wrong and it needs addressing quickly

Quoted from Heisenberg

Wow, if we lose this, when does Hurst’s position become untenable? If 4 defeats turns into, say 8, he’d have to go, obviously.

I’m hoping we turn this game around, but right now we’re poor.

intercourse me…I thought you were one of the sensible ones…

Meant McAtee was huge part of us creating

All the other top 10 teams winning apart from Solihull who are at Notts

Are we a one man team, since McAtee’s absence we’ve done nothing.

Quoted from Mayaman

Fox is off.  Sounded a dire game for him.  What's happened to the form of some of these players?  When Fox got his chance, he played a blinder. Last few games he's done nothing.  According to JT , Hunt should have pulled the trigger and he didn't .  Previously, he had the balls to go for an injury time screamer.

Those fantastic early performances flattered us I fear.

What a load of rubbish, time to turn it round though, mystified by team changes today. Crookes is solid , really odd team selection for me

Wonder how many defeats the new owners can stomach

Next Fridays attendant might be interesting 🤔

Need to do a Barnet-like performance here but it's just not there anymore

Hurst got this wrong, really wrong, thought Aldershot would be a walk in the park and experimented and completely under estimated their ability on set pieces...at some point he has to come in for criticism and it's starting to crank up on him now.

5000 at BP next Saturday and falling

Quoted from gytone

Next Fridays attendant might be interesting 🤔

Especially as it's on BT Sport.

Quoted from Ipswin

Need to do a Barnet-like performance here but it's just not there anymore

Previous games we had so many shots.  Law of averages we are gonna score.  Hardly any today.  

Quoted from barrattstandman

5000 at BP next Saturday and falling

That WOULD be impressive.

Quoted from aldi_01

intercourse me…I thought you were one of the sensible ones…

I do appreciate that comment, Aldi, but I’m a bit sick of losing, especially at this level.

I’m going on Friday and dreading it. It shouldn’t really be like that.

Quoted from barrattstandman

5000 at BP next Saturday and falling

4500 at best if we lose this..

Quoted from Cod marriner

4500 at best if we lose this..

Won't be very interesting, as we play on Friday night.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Where's that extra striker we need?

He’s at Chesterfield.

Hurst out   8)

By the sounds of it, we’d have more chance with Sandi toksvig up front

Quoted from Heisenberg

He’s at Chesterfield.

And perhaps of we weren’t having to shovel cash in to the formal owners pocket to fulfil his ego and lies he may be at GTFC…

Fookin ell.  It was always going to be about setpieces against the more basic rough and ready sides.  Poor preparation.  We are as brittle as a rich tea biscuit.

We should be putting hat fulls against this sorry shower.  Instead we've turned it into their Cup Final.

This coupled with losing of late to those great footballing powerhouses of Kidderminster and Wealdstone is embarrasing and worrying.

He needs to do something to shift this slide and momentum.

Quoted from Heisenberg

He’s at Chesterfield.

And bagged a hat trick today

10mins left I’m smelling a draw come on!

Ten mins should be enough to at least get a point.

Another 3 for Tshimanga if only we could afford a goalscorer

Quoted from aldi_01

And perhaps of we weren’t having to shovel cash in to the formal owners pocket to fulfil his ego and lies he may be at GTFC…

Yep. Sickening really.

2-2 ten mins to pull this around

Quoted from promotion plaice

Hurst out   8)

You say that tongue in cheek but people will soon turn, we've fell off the edge of a cliff, from playing lovely, slick attacking football to this crud....4 games we've been awful now, playing a team that's only scored 4 goals at home and lost all 7....when do you question what's he doing wrong all of a sudden??

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

And bagged a hat trick today

Ah yes but they weren't up against mighty Aldershot

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

2-2 ten mins to pull this around

Live score went to 2-2 then back to 2-1 ffs

Quoted from Cod marriner

10mins left I’m smelling a draw come on!

That stink is the Town performance

Quoted from Ipswin

Ah yes but they weren't up against mighty Aldershot

No, they’re playing the mighty Weymouth (who we beat) who were down to ten men after 20 minutes…

intercourse me your life must be miserable…

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Live score went to 2-2 then back to 2-1 ffs

Disallowed for an imaginary offside

Quoted from Ipswin

That stink is the Town performance

Wrexham getting it together chesterfield have a prolific striker worrying this set of performances

Embarrassing

Quoted from barralad

Disallowed for an imaginary offside

Cheers mate thought I was going mad

Oh girl private off

The honeymoon is over.

Quoted from aldi_01

No, they’re playing the mighty Weymouth (who we beat) who were down to ten men after 20 minutes…

intercourse me your life must be miserable…

Only when you post on here and keep repeatedly telling people to 'crack on'

5 minutes to save it come on town

5 mins for Bapaga to get us a penalty.  Is he still on?

This is just depressing

At the moment we have gone from being the best to being the second worst ( Dover )

Created nothing, this is a disgraceful performance

So only 2 subs used going into the 90th minute. The rest all deserved to play on?  I have never had a go at Hurst but it’s getting harder to stick up for him.

worrying thing is while we are dropping points against teams that on paper we should be taking 3 every other team in our vicinity is getting it together and looking more of a force. Bag ov shite today, no heart at all.

Gonna love Hurst post match in this performance, how do you soon this one, admit he got wrong or blame the players for not performing??...

Imagine if we’d been as excrement as most expected us to be after the worst season ever…

Wrexham get another 5 today

Quoted from promotion plaice

Hurst out   8)

Who do you think you are, me?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Gonna love Hurst post match in this performance, how do you soon this one, admit he got wrong or blame the players for not performing??...

But they haven’t? So shite all round…

Quoted from Ipswin

Wrexham get another 5 today

6

Embarrassing

This is so disappointing. There are going to be a lot of questions asked. To begin with the team was given the benefit of the doubt after a couple of poor results. Now we are scratching our heads. How can form slump so badly in a matter of three weeks.?

It’s well and good  having nice pies and selling hipster craft beers but we’ve needed a striker all season

Quoted from promotion plaice

6

Really? intercourse me I thought they'd declared

Bed time.   It's worrying.  It's not just the absence of McAtee. Towler, Waterfall, Crookes, Sousa, Bapaga, Hunt, Fox and Efete were playing quality footie 5 games ago.  Now look at us.  

Flub off Hurst you tactically inept twerp

Quoted from Ipswin

Really? intercourse me I thought they'd declared

A bit like when we did against a excrement team…

I'm going to the CoOp and getting the popcorn in; this should be interesting tonight!

Don’t care who you are or how optimistic you are, that is a flipping terrible result and serious questions need to be asked

Imagine having a bad spell and fans lose their excrement…

Admit it, we all thought we’d be this excrement anyway…

Baffling that a team performing so well can suddenly fall off a cliff like this. To be fair, we played OK against Notts County and didn't deserve to lose, but the away performances have been very poor from what I've read.

I’ve been completely accepting up until the last 2 games, Kidderminster is a game we should have won, but it seemed as though our players expected a free win and didn’t really look too bothered, and although I’m not there today, it sounds as though the majority of the squad just aren’t interested. I can take little blips in form, but we have been atrocious recently! Surely we aren’t so reliant on Mcatee playing to keep us winning games? Admittedly he is a great player, but surely we are able to beat teams at the bottom end of the table, including Aldershot who haven’t  won a home game all season. We had an unbelievable start to the season, playing some great football, so where has that gone? Starting to look really worrying now considering our run of games coming up, something really needs to click with us

Couldn't make the game due to health issues but as a result that was flipping pathetic.

Martin Gritton saying we didn't have a clue.

Absolutely pathetic! What the fcuk has gone wrong???

Gutted.

And confused.

How can the team we saw a few weeks ago be this inept now?

Is it really down to missing one player?

Looks like something has happened in the camp ,, one man out does cause a slump  like this

Quoted from aldi_01

Imagine having a bad spell and fans lose their excrement…

Admit it, we all thought we’d be this excrement anyway…

No i didnt think we’d lose to flipping opposition who havent won at home all season or pissing Wealdstone

The wheels have come off in an extremely alarming way

Need two players in similiar to when we brought in neilson and hannah that season

Looks like something has happened in the camp ,, one man out does cause a slump  like this

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Flub off Hurst you tactically inept twerp

He is tactically inept but i don't think we can tell him to flub off just yet - give him another 10 mins.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Absolutely pathetic! What the fcuk has gone wrong???

Martin Gritton commentating ;D

Quoted from jimgtfc

Absolutely pathetic! What the fcuk has gone wrong???

Disgraceful

Quoted from jimgtfc

Absolutely pathetic! What the fcuk has gone wrong???

Disgraceful

Well I am revising my expectations. Cant see us being serious title contenders with Chesterfield, Dagger and Wrexham scoring for fun.

At the start of the season I would have taken a play off spot. Now i think it is the best we can hope for,

It makes you wonder how this can be the same group of players that started the season. I know Macatee makes a difference, but if we are a one man team we are in trouble. This was unacceptable.

Serious questions should be asked of Hurst's tactics and the players attitude.

Going from been four points clear at the top a few weeks ago and now been four points behind the leaders surround by a few in form teams.

Answers please Mr Hurst.

Dred what the reaction will be if we lose next week on the telly.

Typical Hurst, no plan B when things are not going our way

Quoted from RonMariner

At the start of the season I would have taken a play off spot. Now i think it is the best we can hope for,

So a repeat of every none league season weve had it is then

Quoted from jimgtfc

Absolutely pathetic! What the fcuk has gone wrong???

Getting too cocky so Hurst has reigned it in. He has a history as a streaky manager. We'll put together a good winning run, then falter for a while, then another good run.

Probably why he's only ever got a team promoted through the play offs. I think he likes doing it the hard way.

We are now paying for a lack of options up front.

This is a stinker of a result and typical GTFC. Any team in dire form, gets it back when we are in town.

Think we have already lost too many games to be title contenders, unless we go the rest of the season and only lose 3 or 4 more, and I can't see that happening

Thank intercourse we got a few points under our belts early doors. Could be a distinct shortage of points coming up in the next weeks

Quoted from pontoonlew

Don’t care who you are or how optimistic you are, that is a flipping terrible result and serious questions need to be asked

I am an optimistic Mariner, still am, but can’t disagree with your post.

I think we need a.sub coach, PH  could do with the help.🤔

Always been a fan of Hurst but this is unacceptable.. team selection looked all wrong today is the funds really there to bring in a striker because we've needed one for a while now and I don't mean a young kid from an u23 team

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

is the funds really there to bring in a striker because we've needed one for a while now and I don't mean a young kid from an u23 team

A few weeks ago I would have agreed but now I think more than just a striker is needed

Quoted from 4055

I think we need a.sub coach, PH  could do with the help.🤔

Coach? I'd order a taxi.

How can Grant be fit enough for the bench last week, nowhere near today

Dean Smith was relieved of his duties for 5 consecutive defeats (even though they had a few players injured).
Paul Hurst has suddenly 4 consecutive defeats behind him - most against much lower ranked teams than Grimsby.
This will test the owners of the club - as Town do seem to be in a downward trajectory as a collective - all of a sudden. Wouldn’t fancy playing Wrexham, Chesterfield, Borehamwood next week with confidence / ability so bad it seems.

The teams around us have been adding the odd player to their squads for the last month and payimg fees for them. Chesterfield just paid for a defender due to their injury problems. us nope not a sausage despite struggling for a left winger and a striker most of the season just hanging on hoping long term injuries get fit one day. Still we have round balls to train with   :P

It's a good job we had such a good start to the season how are we only 3 points of top,  these last 4 games been absolutely shite am fuming tonight. So so poor wtf is wrong we've lost to a team who had lost every single home game and we played shite.

Quite a tricky run of games coming up ...  Hopefully a confidence boosting result against Southend this Friday.  Proper grotty midweek away game at Solihull.

Southend (20th) (H)
Solihull Moors (8th) (A)
Boreham Wood (2nd) (H)
Dag & Red (7th) (A)
Chesterfield (1st) (H)  
Halifax (6th) (A)
King's Lynn (22nd) (H)
Halifax (6th) (H)
Bromley (4th) (H)
Wrexham (9th) (A)

Quoted from Teestogreen

Dean Smith was relieved of his duties for 5 consecutive defeats (even though they had a few players injured).
Paul Hurst has suddenly 4 consecutive defeats behind him - most against much lower ranked teams than Grimsby.
This will test the owners of the club - as Town do seem to be in a downward trajectory as a collective - all of a sudden. Wouldn’t fancy playing Wrexham, Chesterfield, Borehamwood next week with confidence / ability so bad it seems.

Explain how this will “test the owners”?

I feel it’s the players who are being tested, some will come though some will be replaced when the best 11 is available or in January

The problem we have is that we only have a best 11 anyone after that doesn’t appear to be up to it for whatever reason.

Time to question every aspect of preparation for recent games. Something has gone wrong since the bus arrived at Wealdstone. Is it the training regime, selection, fitness management, tactics or poor substitutions? If Clifton can continue to battle why not others?

Martin Gritton and other co commentators can see our failings from early on in games but PH seems slow to change during the game. We are failing at the basics and lack 'game intelligence'

I've missed the last four games due to Covid but hope to see a return to high standards both on and off the pitch on Friday.

First step. Stop all player interviews and Inside Training vids. Instead, ask Liam to interview all coaches and fitness staff for their honest thoughts about how match/ squad preparation can be improved. All 'in house' and deleted when Hurst and Doig have seen them. It's gone quiet on the pitch and it's time for a candid exchange of views at the training ground.

Should have known better than thinking we were doing well. I have never known a club which seems to fall flat on its face all the time. Any good performances/results are an illusion to tempt us into thinking we can rely on the same to continue. We can't!
I can recall some other abysmal performances at Aldershot when both clubs were in the FL but this one tops them all.
Everyone has known the obvious since the summer. WE NEED A STRIKER. We are not going to win anything unless we score some goals. The management needs to tell us why the club has failed to sign someone. Honesty is needed. No good saying the right options are not available etc. There must be options out there that are better than what we have at the moment. Getting out of this league quickly has to be a priority or are we like Norwich? That is not going to bankrupt the club chasing success. Tell us please. I ran out of emotional energy last season in supporting a team that tested the patience of a saint. Another season like the last supporting this yo-yo of a club will kill me.

Funny isn't it, since the rumour that Hurst had out his name in the hat for the Stockport job(admittedly that rumour came from here) our firm has been woeful..makes you wonder if there was some truth in that and certain players heard a whisper...there's certainly something wrong in the camp right now, our players performance level has dropped and to me, that's the biggest worry

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Explain how this will “test the owners”?

I feel it’s the players who are being tested, some will come though some will be replaced when the best 11 is available or in January

The problem we have is that we only have a best 11 anyone after that doesn’t appear to be up to it for whatever reason.

Our best 11 had bapaga in it though, since hes been back why havnt we just been playing the line up we were back at altrincham but with john lewis in place of mcatee

The khouri thing seems like absolute madness now, the whole plan today was

Quoted from WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP

The wheels have come off in an extremely alarming way

Need two players in similiar to when we brought in neilson and hannah that season

Seems everybody in the world can see this except for Hurst.

This is very poor & there is so much to say, but I am loathe to jump on he band wagon - just yet.
Still, an unbelievable drop in results since McAtee's injury.

I suppose that the fact we've got so many young players in may have an effect. It's understandable that young players with few first team appearances under their belt can blow hot and cold and relying on a few of them to perform well is a bit of a risk. Hunt has dropped right off after starting so well, Bapaga had a slow start, came good but then dropped right off again and it sounds as though Towler struggled today. Revan has made a handful of appearances for us and that's pretty much all his first team experience. Khouri likewise. Sousa is a bit older but it's his first proper professional contract, I believe? He looked almost unplayable at times earlier in the season as well.

I'm guessing that not too many of the other clubs near the top are reliant on so many youngsters coming good.

“Clearly a little blip” says John Lewis…. That’s ok then I was getting worried for a minute.

Loved Hurst interview. what went wrong      "we weren't winning headers "   so what did he do to sort it?  nothing continued for another 45 mins not winning headers
He could see it, commentaters could see it, crowd could see it but he still did Flub all about it at half time.

Quoted from Maringer

I suppose that the fact we've got so many young players in may have an effect. It's understandable that young players with few first team appearances under their belt can blow hot and cold and relying on a few of them to perform well is a bit of a risk. Hunt has dropped right off after starting so well, Bapaga had a slow start, came good but then dropped right off again and it sounds as though Towler struggled today. Revan has made a handful of appearances for us and that's pretty much all his first team experience. Khouri likewise. Sousa is a bit older but it's his first proper professional contract, I believe? He looked almost unplayable at times earlier in the season as well.

I'm guessing that not too many of the other clubs near the top are reliant on so many youngsters coming good.

Completely agree and add that it’s pretty much a new team compared to last season but on the pitch we need the players to start showing a bit of character I think.

The drop in form is very worrying and the obvious shortcomings in the squad have unbelievably  not been addressed, but the one thing that baffles me is the injury situation at the club, is Scannel having a leg transplant? Just what is wrong with him?
short of a major ACL injury what can possibly keep him out for this long, same applies  with Grant and now it seem Wright can manage 20 minutes a month before he is injured again, we must be wasting a fortune in wages for players that are not contributing to the club and if performances are going to fall off a cliff because one key player in McAtee is injured, it could turn into a very long winter.

This is what happens when you mouth off about winning the league after 6 games,and claiming that you are swapping league standings with your fiercest rivals from the league above...................learn to shut up and cross your fingers, we've seen it enough times over the years to not get too cocky too early. Ffsake.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Funny isn't it, since the rumour that Hurst had out his name in the hat for the Stockport job(admittedly that rumour came from here) our firm has been woeful..makes you wonder if there was some truth in that and certain players heard a whisper...there's certainly something wrong in the camp right now, our players performance level has dropped and to me, that's the biggest worry

Don't remember reading the rumour about Hurst applying for the Stockport job, but if true  why the hell would he go there.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Funny isn't it, since the rumour that Hurst had out his name in the hat for the Stockport job(admittedly that rumour came from here) our firm has been woeful..makes you wonder if there was some truth in that and certain players heard a whisper...there's certainly something wrong in the camp right now, our players performance level has dropped and to me, that's the biggest worry

Don't remember reading the rumour about Hurst applying for the Stockport job, but if true  why the hell would he go there.

Quoted from gytone

Don't remember reading the rumour about Hurst applying for the Stockport job, but if true  why the hell would he go there.

He didn't and he wouldn't (Doig wasn't even ready to lie about it) but some crackpot on the Stockport site suggested him as a possibility and maybe it made he feel wanted and taller

Don't think that's the reason for the plunge in form tho'

Quoted from Ipswin

He didn't and he wouldn't (Doig wasn't even ready to lie about it) but some crackpot on the Stockport site suggested him as a possibility and maybe it made he feel wanted and taller

Don't think that's the reason for the plunge in form tho'

Yeah it's irrelevant balderdash and he wasn't linked in any way apart from somebody mentioning his name on a forum as somebody they 'could get' if they threw enough money at it. Now some people seem to want to use it as an excuse to beat him. Utterly laughable

Quoted from petethemariner

The drop in form is very worrying and the obvious shortcomings in the squad have unbelievably  not been addressed, but the one thing that baffles me is the injury situation at the club, is Scannel having a leg transplant? Just what is wrong with him?
short of a major ACL injury what can possibly keep him out for this long, same applies  with Grant and now it seem Wright can manage 20 minutes a month before he is injured again, we must be wasting a fortune in wages for players that are not contributing to the club and if performances are going to fall off a cliff because one key player in McAtee is injured, it could turn into a very long winter.

According to Wiki the most league games he has played in a season in the past 5 years is 15 so you shouldn't be expecting too much from him.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Funny isn't it, since the rumour that Hurst had out his name in the hat for the Stockport job(admittedly that rumour came from here) our firm has been woeful..makes you wonder if there was some truth in that and certain players heard a whisper...there's certainly something wrong in the camp right now, our players performance level has dropped and to me, that's the biggest worry

Performance has dropped because macatee drags everyone else along kicking and screaming to put in better performances by leading by example.
Just shows what little fighting spirit is in the team if one player has such a massive influence on the rest of the team.
We need a player with similar attributes to macatee ASAP to be signed,we can all see it.
In the past under the former regime,lack of funds would be rolled out as a reason we couldn't sign players.
Right now with vastly higher than expected income generated,we should and must delve into the kitty and get someone in.
Any dithering and we'll still be in this god forsaken League this time next year.THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW.

Quoted from hampshiremariner

Should have known better than thinking we were doing well. I have never known a club which seems to fall flat on its face all the time. Any good performances/results are an illusion to tempt us into thinking we can rely on the same to continue. We can't!
I can recall some other abysmal performances at Aldershot when both clubs were in the FL but this one tops them all.
Everyone has known the obvious since the summer. WE NEED A STRIKER. We are not going to win anything unless we score some goals. The management needs to tell us why the club has failed to sign someone. Honesty is needed. No good saying the right options are not available etc. There must be options out there that are better than what we have at the moment. Getting out of this league quickly has to be a priority or are we like Norwich? That is not going to bankrupt the club chasing success. Tell us please. I ran out of emotional energy last season in supporting a team that tested the patience of a saint. Another season like the last supporting this yo-yo of a club will kill me.

Let's put things into perspective a little bit.
1. Have we fallen flat on our faces? No, we have lost our last 3 league games. Yes yesterday was an embarrassment. Wealdstone parked the bus and we are laking a player or 2 in the final 3rd to be able to break those types of teams down. Notts County we didnt deserve to loose, we played well, limited them to only 1 or 2 shots on goal, and didnt take the few chances we had. We more than matched them, but again we were lacking that little bit of extra quality in the final 3rd.

2. Yes we do need a good striker and yes we have known this since the summer, but they don't grow on trees, do they? We were in for Tshimanga & the price Boreham Wood had on him was aimed at championship teams. Chesterfield went all in and got him. Maybe we should have gone all in, maybe we did but he chose them over us? It's all well and good saying "there must be options out there better than what we have at the moment" but no matter how big a transfer fee or wages we offer, it's still down to the player to say yes. At the moment the only players we can sign are either free agents (not going to be match fit), Non-league players (nobody in our league is going to sell their best strikers to us are they?). Or loans, Hurst has already said we have been knocked back on several loan players. We need to try and push the boat out in Jan.

3. We are not going to have another season like last season are we? The squad we have now is head and shoulders above last season's squad, even without the extra striker we need. Last season's squad was a bunch of headless Sunday league chickens under the control of a mental blagging has been. If we had that squad this season we would be in the bottom 3 by now.

We are 15 games in, 3rd in the league have 29 points, won 9, drawn 2, lost 4, and scored 28 goals without a "star striker".

In 2015/2016 (the season we went up) After 15 games, we had won 6, drawn 7, and lost 2, and had 25 points with bogle and podge scoring for fun.

Have faith!!

UTM

Quoted from NorthLondonMariner

Let's put things into perspective a little bit.
1. Have we fallen flat on our faces? No, we have lost our last 3 league games. Yes yesterday was an embarrassment. Wealdstone parked the bus and we are laking a player or 2 in the final 3rd to be able to break those types of teams down. Notts County we didnt deserve to loose, we played well, limited them to only 1 or 2 shots on goal, and didnt take the few chances we had. We more than matched them, but again we were lacking that little bit of extra quality in the final 3rd.

2. Yes we do need a good striker and yes we have known this since the summer, but they don't grow on trees, do they? We were in for Tshimanga & the price Boreham Wood had on him was aimed at championship teams. Chesterfield went all in and got him. Maybe we should have gone all in, maybe we did but he chose them over us? It's all well and good saying "there must be options out there better than what we have at the moment" but no matter how big a transfer fee or wages we offer, it's still down to the player to say yes. At the moment the only players we can sign are either free agents (not going to be match fit), Non-league players (nobody in our league is going to sell their best strikers to us are they?). Or loans, Hurst has already said we have been knocked back on several loan players. We need to try and push the boat out in Jan.

3. We are not going to have another season like last season are we? The squad we have now is head and shoulders above last season's squad, even without the extra striker we need. Last season's squad was a bunch of headless Sunday league chickens under the control of a mental blagging has been. If we had that squad this season we would be in the bottom 3 by now.

We are 15 games in, 3rd in the league have 29 points, won 9, drawn 2, lost 4, and scored 28 goals without a "star striker".

In 2015/2016 (the season we went up) After 15 games, we had won 6, drawn 7, and lost 2, and had 25 points with bogle and podge scoring for fun.

Have faith!!

UTM

2.  Was under the impression we could buy a player from any league till about Feb next year might be wrong

Quoted from Madeleymariner

2.  Was under the impression we could buy a player from any league till about Feb next year might be wrong

Your right, I stand corrected. Its only FL and above that cant buy or sell to/from each other

We had no left side  missed Crookes and Bapaga  and no one dare shoot, we had 4 or 5 chances to shoot , a couple of c.ear chances for Hunt and Sousa but instead of shooting elected to play a poor final ball to try to shoot from 6 yards rather than 16. If yo don't shoot they won't score. Thought that's basic at any level. Also at this level when playing against set plays you need a goalkeeper who will come a claim the aerial ball instead of staying on the goalline.  

North London Mariner- I used to be an optimist but have been let down too many times!

I understand what you are saying but if we had any credentials at all, we would not be losing to Aldershot. A good team grinds out results even when playing badly. We should have drawn at the very least.

Perhaps we were not as good as we thought in the early games. Last gasp winners in at least two games (Barnet and Woking) and we almost threw a three goal lead away v Altrincham.

It is crucial they stop the rot otherwise confidence will drain from the team. The manager needs to decide his best starting XI and stick with them, unless injuries/suspensions intervene. All the chopping and changing does not help. We have suffered for twenty years now. There is only so much you can take. I am absolutely desperate for the club to do well. I have followed them since 1957.  I want to tell people I support GTFC and be respected, rather than guffaws and sympathy. I would be happy with top half of L2 at the moment, That is not an unrealistic objective. But we are nowhere near it at the moment.

Over the last many seasons there have been loads of reasons for being crap , But this season i can see no excuses for being crap at this moment in time  except we are crap at this moment in time From manager down

Quoted from NorthLondonMariner

Let's put things into perspective a little bit.
1. Have we fallen flat on our faces? No, we have lost our last 3 league games. Yes yesterday was an embarrassment. Wealdstone parked the bus and we are laking a player or 2 in the final 3rd to be able to break those types of teams down. Notts County we didnt deserve to loose, we played well, limited them to only 1 or 2 shots on goal, and didnt take the few chances we had. We more than matched them, but again we were lacking that little bit of extra quality in the final 3rd.

2. Yes we do need a good striker and yes we have known this since the summer, but they don't grow on trees, do they? We were in for Tshimanga & the price Boreham Wood had on him was aimed at championship teams. Chesterfield went all in and got him. Maybe we should have gone all in, maybe we did but he chose them over us? It's all well and good saying "there must be options out there better than what we have at the moment" but no matter how big a transfer fee or wages we offer, it's still down to the player to say yes. At the moment the only players we can sign are either free agents (not going to be match fit), Non-league players (nobody in our league is going to sell their best strikers to us are they?). Or loans, Hurst has already said we have been knocked back on several loan players. We need to try and push the boat out in Jan.

3. We are not going to have another season like last season are we? The squad we have now is head and shoulders above last season's squad, even without the extra striker we need. Last season's squad was a bunch of headless Sunday league chickens under the control of a mental blagging has been. If we had that squad this season we would be in the bottom 3 by now.

We are 15 games in, 3rd in the league have 29 points, won 9, drawn 2, lost 4, and scored 28 goals without a "star striker".

In 2015/2016 (the season we went up) After 15 games, we had won 6, drawn 7, and lost 2, and had 25 points with bogle and podge scoring for fun.

Have faith!!

UTM

Star man. The most sensible post I've read today. We've lost 9 points and are still third. All teams have bad spells and I'd rather have ours now than in March. Time for McAtee to come back and new blood in January.

Last time we were down here, Crawley and Fleetwood both shelled out for quality players and both p1ssed the league. Crawley bought Matt Tubbs for £70,000, Sergio Torres for £100,000 and reputedly £ 275,000 for Richard Brodie. It payed off spectacularly by them winning the league, only losing three games along the way (one of those to us I believe) and getting to the F.A Cup 5th round and a tie at Old Trafford, raking in much more than they had shelled out along the way.

They went up from League 2 the following season and skirted with the League 1 play offs the following season before finishing 10th. They made a load more money when they sold a couple of players for around 2 million.

Fleetwood did very similar and of course signed Jamie Vardy for ( I think) £100,000. Whatever happened to him?

This was a decade ago they were paying these sorts of fees in this league, so it isn't something new. Chesterfield look to have invested wisely with Tshimanga already on 16 goals and the team starting to motor. Wrexham have invested too and starting to hit their straps. 11 goals in the last 2 games. We have managed 1 in 4. Stockport take the Bolton captain, which is pretty amazing really

Basically, you get what you pay for and if we want to compete in this league, we need to do what others are doing.

We must have made a pretty penny from gate receipts. Will we spend some of it on the squad is the burning question for me.

Quoted from hampshiremariner

North London Mariner- I used to be an optimist but have been let down too many times!
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That my friend is all about being a FAN. Enjoy the good times, take the knocks on the chin, pick yourself up, and hey we're going to win the next match. Positive optimism.

Glass is always half full, getting promoted, are we? Of course, we are 3rd in the table, and reading the late July posts everybody was going to be happy if we were mid table by Christmas!

PS. My son asked how I felt about Saturday, tissue box empty was my answer; but now definite win against Southend, no problem as my glass is filling up, again.

Quoted from DB

That my friend is all about being a FAN. Enjoy the good times, take the knocks on the chin, pick yourself up, and hey we're going to win the next match. Positive optimism.

Glass is always half full, getting promoted, are we? Of course, we are 3rd in the table, and reading the late July posts everybody was going to be happy if we were mid table by Christmas!

PS. My son asked how I felt about Saturday, tissue box empty was my answer; but now definite win against Southend, no problem as my glass is filling up, again.

Really?