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Looks like he might make it back to fitness soon. What do people think we should expect from him?

Ryan Taylor has shown that an experienced pro can add loads of value to the team, but equally we've had the likes of Matt Green who have contributed very little. What might we get from Grant?

From the little we saw of him he looks quite useful

Given that every single summer signing has been good so far, there's no reason why he won't be the same

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Looks like he might make it back to fitness soon. What do people think we should expect from him?

Have the club said anything?

I really want to see him in the squad, we really need him to give us an extra option up front.

Agreed we didn’t get much from Matt Green but he was playing in a team that we didn’t get much from.
Apparently he’s banging the goals in this season .

Quoted from Billywhiz

Agreed we didn’t get much from Matt Green but he was playing in a team that we didn’t get much from.
Apparently he’s banging the goals in this season .

A striker is only ever as good as the service he gets.

This year we have some decent providers wide and in midfield so a half decent striker will get chances.

Quoted from Billywhiz

Agreed we didn’t get much from Matt Green but he was playing in a team that we didn’t get much from.
Apparently he’s banging the goals in this season .

In Northern Ireland....That's like being a star striker in the Welsh league.

Quoted from Kris2

In Northern Ireland....That's like being a star striker in the Welsh league.

Sisay and Robles are prolific over in Wales. Both looked like half time raffle winners in their time here.

Quoted from RonMariner

A striker is only ever as good as the service he gets.

This year we have some decent providers wide and in midfield so a half decent striker will get chances.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. You could have a striker being provided with loads of gilt edged chances and not sticking them away.

Quoted from TinklerMan

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. You could have a striker being provided with loads of gilt edged chances and not sticking them away.

I wonder how LJL would do in N Ireland or Wales?

Quoted from TinklerMan

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. You could have a striker being provided with loads of gilt edged chances and not sticking them away.

That sounds familiar

Quoted from Ipswin

I wonder how LJL would do in N Ireland or Wales?

He scored 12 in 17 for Hereford, his last club before here, so probably very well.

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

He scored 12 in 17 for Hereford, his last club before here, so probably very well.

Close, but not quite in Wales

Quoted from Ipswin

Close, but not quite in Wales

I've pointed out Shops recent goalscoring record is not too shabby at his previous club which is a level similar to Wales or Ireland, if not better.

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

I've pointed out Shops recent goalscoring record is not too shabby at his previous club which is a level similar to Wales or Ireland, if not better.

Doh! I was talking geographically but never mind, (too deep for you obviously.)

I think Hereford are one league below us I don't know how that compares to NIFL Premiership (Linfield) and Cymru Premier (the other two)

Plymouth fans spoke very highly of Grant in the summer and said he would ‘tear up this league’ and various other words to the same effect. Great pedigree. Been out ages so could take several weeks for him to come into his own (assuming no further injury setback) but promises much and I agree….all of Hurst’s summer signings have shown themselves to be astute decisions.

Quoted from Ipswin

Doh! I was talking geographically but never mind, (too deep for you obviously.)

I think Hereford are one league below us I don't know how that compares to NIFL Premiership (Linfield) and Cymru Premier (the other two)

I knew what you meant, no need for the baiting/abuse. I was explaining to you with why I said what I said as you didn't seem to respond to me posting facts about Shops recentish goalscoring feats. Didn't really suit your angle did it, bless.

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

I knew what you meant, no need for the baiting/abuse. I was explaining to you with why I said what I said as you didn't seem to respond to me posting facts about Shops recentish goalscoring feats. Didn't really suit your angle did it, bless.

I certainly think describing LJL's 'recentish' goalscoring as 'feats' is stretching it a bit

Looking at Grants career record and the high regard he seems to have been held in at previous clubs he probably has the best pedigree of any of the summer signings. If he is fit enough and he has been training for a few weeks now I see no reason why he can’t play in the Mcatee role but that still leaves us needing another number 9.

My expectations of Grant have been zero, based on the only 45min glimpse of him in that Rotherham (?) Pre season friendly and the fact he sunk without a trace at half time.

It's now November and we still havnt seen him other than in photos or videos, usually stood next to Scannel, his treatment room buddy.

I just don't see him figuring or featuring at all, should he return he won't be match fit, and given the length of lay off and age I can envisage a stop start niggly injury remainder of the season.

We need his type back to bolster the attacking options and I hope he does return and does exactly that.. along with Scannel ...but I just don't see it happening.

Hope to be proved wrong.

Apologies if already posted..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFdPiwGujEQ

The person who signed Matt Green did runner. The person who signed Joel Grant is still here. Enough said. ;) ;)

Quoted from DB

The person who signed Matt Green did runner. The person who signed Joel Grant is still here. Enough said. ;) ;)

Jolley signed green didn't he?

Quoted from moosey_club

My expectations of Grant have been zero, based on the only 45min glimpse of him in that Rotherham (?) Pre season friendly and the fact he sunk without a trace at half time.

It's now November and we still havnt seen him other than in photos or videos, usually stood next to Scannel, his treatment room buddy.

I just don't see him figuring or featuring at all, should he return he won't be match fit, and given the length of lay off and age I can envisage a stop start niggly injury remainder of the season.

We need his type back to bolster the attacking options and I hope he does return and does exactly that.. along with Scannel ...but I just don't see it happening.

Hope to be proved wrong.

A bit pessimistic on someone with nearly 500 career games . Thirty Four year olds do get injured and have longer out but if you can get 25 games out of a quality older player at this level it’s well worthwhile . I am sure Hurst would have taken his fitness / injury record into account before bringing him in. Taylor may be no different by the time we reach season end. Scannell has a more persistent track record of time out and isn’t a Hurst signing

Worth noting that Grant and Taylor played together at Plymouth too.

Quoted from sam gy

Worth noting that Grant and Taylor played together at Plymouth too.

Outscored him over 3 seasons as well

I'm not expecting much to be honest the few bits we have seen of him preseason left me very underwhelmed if I'm honest, I'm hoping that was just because it was preseason of course

Quoted from bedders78

Outscored him over 3 seasons as well

1 goal every 5 games compared to 1 goal every 6 games

It doesn't make for pretty reading
;D ;D ;D

Dont care about then, care about now. If he’s as good as Taylor then happy days.,

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

1 goal every 5 games compared to 1 goal every 6 games

It doesn't make for pretty reading
;D ;D ;D

i'll say it coz its always said....

what was amonds before he came

Quoted from moosey_club

My expectations of Grant have been zero, based on the only 45min glimpse of him in that Rotherham (?) Pre season friendly and the fact he sunk without a trace at half time.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

I'm not expecting much to be honest the few bits we have seen of him preseason left me very underwhelmed if I'm honest, I'm hoping that was just because it was preseason of course

Yep, perfectly rational responses here. 2 x 45 min appearances in July friendlies vs League One and Northern Premier Division One East opposition is pretty much the optimum gauge of a player's ability.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Yep, perfectly rational responses here. 2 x 45 min appearances in July friendlies vs League One and Northern Premier Division One East opposition is pretty much the optimum gauge of a player's ability.

Yes they are completely rational, he didn't impress either of us during his brief appearances during preseason. Not everything has to be happy clapper friendly (Maybe Rob should create a Happy Clapper safe space hmmmm) we can say say negative things about players/club/staff where its applicable. I even said at the end of my comment "I hope this was just because it was preseason"

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

1 goal every 5 games compared to 1 goal every 6 games

It doesn't make for pretty reading
;D ;D ;D

Joel Grant isn't a striker...

Quoted from sam gy

Joel Grant isn't a striker...

Makes Taylors record look even worse then doesn't it ;D

Quoted from HerveJosse

A bit pessimistic on someone with nearly 500 career games . Thirty Four year olds do get injured and have longer out but if you can get 25 games out of a quality older player at this level it’s well worthwhile . I am sure Hurst would have taken his fitness / injury record into account before bringing him in. Taylor may be no different by the time we reach season end. Scannell has a more persistent track record of time out and isn’t a Hurst signing

45 mins in a pre season friendly to date are grounds for pessimism.
As I said, hope to be proved wrong.

A couple of goals scored scruffily in his first few games and all will be well !

Give him a chance at least !

Quoted from Son of Cod

Yep, perfectly rational responses here.

Thanks, glad you agree.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Yes they are completely rational, he didn't impress either of us during his brief appearances during preseason. Not everything has to be happy clapper friendly (Maybe Rub should create a Happy Clapper safe space hmmmm) we can say say negative things about players/club/staff where its applicable. I even said at the end of my comment "I hope this was just because it was preseason"

If the Happy Clapper safe space is away from those that are frothing at the mouth because a new signing didn't bang a hattrick in in the first four minutes of pre-season then sign me up.

Quoted from Son of Cod

If the Happy Clapper safe space is away from those that are frothing at the mouth because a new signing didn't bang a hattrick in in the first four minutes of pre-season then sign me up.

We're hardly frothing at the mouth. We both just said he hadn't impressed in the short time when we saw him, say in coomparison to Essell who I only saw for about 10 mins in total preseason who did impress me, you know offering a different view in a conversation on a chat board. After all if we all had the same view there'd be nothing to chat about and no need for the fishy. Just another over reaction by the happy clappers to the tiniest thing that isn't completely, totally, wholly and thoroughly positive.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

We're hardly frothing at the mouth. We both just said he hadn't impressed in the short time when we saw him, say in coomparison to Essell who I only saw for about 10 mins in total preseason who did impress me, you know offering a different view in a conversation on a chat board. After all if we all had the same view there'd be nothing to chat about and no need for the fishy. Just another over reaction by the happy clappers to the tiniest thing that isn't completely, totally, wholly and thoroughly positive.

It's got fuck all to do with how positive/negative I am or you are as a fan. You're writing off a player based off matches that are purely meant for getting the squad back up to fitness. Not even the later ones that give more of an indication of preferred lineups and tactics but the very first ones when they've come back from a rest period having not kicked a ball for a few months.

Everyone wrote off Waterfall before the season started.

As someone pointed out, Grant isn't a striker. He's more of a No10, just like McAtee in fact, so hopefully he can fill that role while he's out injured.

Hurst said in one of his interviews that you could see the quality Grant has with his touch and technique in training.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Makes Taylors record look even worse then doesn't it ;D

Perhaps yet we know that Taylor is a fantastic player for us and has been instrumental to our good start to the season. So if Grant outscored him when not even playing as an out and out striker, why would that not make for "pretty reading"?

Quoted from Son of Cod

It's got fuck all to do with how positive/negative I am or you are as a fan. You're writing off a player based off matches that are purely meant for getting the squad back up to fitness. Not even the later ones that give more of an indication of preferred lineups and tactics but the very first ones when they've come back from a rest period having not kicked a ball for a few months.

I am not writing anyone off based on a brief pre season showing.....I am however concerned that its November and we havnt even seen him in the matchday squad yet despite us now looking very short in his dept.
None of us know what he will be capable of as none of us have seen him yet....so I dont get where people think he will suddenly be starting , scoring and the answer to our front line woes.

If Hurst signed him now instead of at the start of the season I reckon everyone would be excited about it. Cos he’s been out injured people have a downer on him. I think like 95% of PH signings we’ll be saying what a great addition to the squad he is. When we signed him in the summer he was the one I was most excited about. Genuinely think once fit, if he stays fit he’ll be brill

Quoted from moosey_club

I am not writing anyone off based on a brief pre season showing.....I am however concerned that its November and we havnt even seen him in the matchday squad yet despite us now looking very short in his dept.

Here's Nathan Arnold's start to his career as a Grimsby Town player:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/nIYMqjj.png[/img]

Suggests it might be worth letting players recover from injuries before posting about how concerned you are...

Think son of has been hanging round with arryarry and Swin

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Yes they are completely rational, he didn't impress either of us during his brief appearances during preseason. Not everything has to be happy clapper friendly (Maybe Rob should create a Happy Clapper safe space hmmmm) we can say say negative things about players/club/staff where its applicable. I even said at the end of my comment "I hope this was just because it was preseason"

I would happily sign up to a "happy clapper" page if it meant I didn't have to read your drivel. I welcome opposing views that are based on reasoned arguments. Yours are not and I strongly suggest that you start reading through yours before you post.

Really looking forward to Grant getting fit and showing us what hes got,hes been a class act for his other teams,writing him off after 30mins in early pre season games is laughable, i believe he could be the extra ingredient we need to push on big time,UTFM

Quoted from Chrisblor

Here's Nathan Arnold's start to his career as a Grimsby Town player:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/nIYMqjj.png[/img]

Suggests it might be worth letting players recover from injuries before posting about how concerned you are...

One for the time capsule this, let's revisit at the end of the season and hopefully you are proved right.

Some Mystic megs on here.

Quoted from Son of Cod

It's got fuck all to do with how positive/negative I am or you are as a fan. You're writing off a player based off matches that are purely meant for getting the squad back up to fitness. Not even the later ones that give more of an indication of preferred lineups and tactics but the very first ones when they've come back from a rest period having not kicked a ball for a few months.

I'm not writing him off at all, "I'm not expecting much to be honest the few bits we have seen of him preseason left me very underwhelmed if I'm honest, I'm hoping that was just because it was preseason of course".

Tell me there where I'm writing him off. I was left underwhelmed by his preseason performances and I'm hoping that was just because it was preseason. I'm clearly not writing him off, I'm hoping he proves my early judgement wrong.

Quoted from Hagrid

Think son of has been hanging round with arryarry and Swin

Don't include me in this discussion - I've never even flipping heard of him!

When do we expect him to be available?

Quoted from RonMariner

When do we expect him to be available?

We'll find out tomorrow at Hurst pre match interview no doubt .

From the interview - looks like he is on the bench, but not a starter tomorrow.

7 on the bench again in the cup, so a bit more choice for subbing !

Hope he gets on and does ok !!

With seven subs surely he should start and have a decent run. He can always come off.

Quoted from mimma

With seven subs surely he should start and have a decent run. He can always come off.

Or play the last half hour.

Nobody can really comment because we haven’t seen him…he’ll either stay fit and be half decent or he’ll get a knock and just take his money…

Not sure I’ll get excited about him just yet…

Give him a chance FFS.

Doubt very much he will start. Doubt he'll get any game time unless we are comfortable in the game and that is far from certain. They look to be in good form.

Think PH will play a strong side to try and get back to winning.

Quoted from ginnywings

They look to be in good form.

Think PH will play a strong side to try and get back to winning.

I agree. I think it will be a tough game. I think PH will be taking it seriously and he's desperate to get back to the winning habit. I reckon he really wanted a mid week game to give us chance to bounce back.