An update from Cod Almighty


by Tony Butcher
27 August 2021

Following Wednesday’s Radio Humberside session with Chairman Wow, our see-through supremo, we have one question: is the future bright or is it orange?
Town are rolling in it! Or are they? Tony takes a further look at Town's and John Fenty's finances

Just where is that Grist, Pollock and (hopefully impending) Dembele windfall going? Or perhaps the most pertinent question is: in whose bank account is it going to end up, and why?

Oh dear, oh dear, we may be under new owners but the suffocating tentacles of the Fenty regime remain wrapped around our throat. He's gone, but we can't forget him just yet. It's contractual, it's the price we are paying for freedom.

Shall we tie up a few loose ends?

John Shelton Fenty: The taxman cometh

Remember John Fenty’s tax issue? Well, it looks like it has been sorted, straight after he sold Town.

On 26 July 2021 the liquidator of FSF, the company sold by Fenty in 2004, confirmed the following:

a claim had been lodged against the former parent company, which had been defended;
the liquidator had not accepted the points raised in defence;
an offer was made by John Shelton Fenty to settle the liquidation fees, debts and expenses on the basis that the legal action against the parent company ceased;
this offer was not accepted and a further offer was made in May 2021 which was acceptable to her and HMRC.
The final agreement was for a sum that was more than the initial offer from John Shelton Fenty but less than the claim made by the liquidator. Acceptance was a commercial decision based on the expectation that the additional costs in taking the matter to court would be greater than the difference in offer and claim.

The details of the settlement were not finalised at the time of the report, but she expected to pay a dividend to creditors within 6 months. The amount claimed by creditors is shown as £1,373,490.

We shall have to await the liquidator’s final Receipts and Payments report to see exactly how much John Fenty has repaid and whether that includes the both the claim for the missing asset and the unpaid tax.

Beg, steal or borrow? Paying off Fenty's loans

What is publicly known about the terms of the sale of Grimsby Town is set out in the notice to shareholders of a general meeting on 9 April 2021. This detailed the sale transaction for the transfers of shares from John Fenty to 1878 Partners Limited. It stated:

1878 Partners Ltd, a newly formed private limited company will enter into a contract to acquire the certain shares in the capital of GTFC from John Fenty, at a nominal value of £975,000, representing 40.97% of the voting rights in GTFC;
1878 Partners will provide a guarantee that the £1.5m in loans currently owned by GTFC to John Fenty will be repaid in three annual instalments with the final repayment by 31 December 2023;
Mr Stockwood and Mr Pettit will be appointed as directors of GTFC and Mr Stockwood will assume the role of Chair for a fixed term of 3 years;
John Fenty will resign as a director of GTFC.
Messrs Stockwood and Pettit provided a guarantee to repay the Fenty loans, not that they would pay them directly. The club remains liable to repay it all. In simple terms, Town are obliged to pay £500,000 per annum to John Fenty up to the end of 2023.

In the BBC Humberside forum Jason Stockwood confirmed that a further term of the agreement to acquire John Fenty's shares was that any player transfer income would accelerate the repayment of director loans. This condition was an immovable term: John Fenty would not waive this.

The reported up-front fees for Grist and Pollock add up to £410,000, so that's the first instalment nearly covered already. Should there be a Dembele windfall it goes to pay off the director loans from the previous regime.

Blundell Park life would have been so much simpler if only John Fenty had been following the lead of the former owner of Chesterfield, who waived £2.045m in loans when transferring the club to a community trust. I'm sure it gives him an enormous sense of well-being. No wonder the inspired Spireites can afford to pay an alleged £250,000 transfer fee for a non-League striker.

Until John Fenty is paid off he still retards the business. The sooner the better, but we’ll just have accept that until that happens the handbrake is still on.
And then, to quote our WYSIWYG leader, "we can go through the gears in the next few years"

Tomorrow. You never know.

This is not good, however presumably the new directors could then put the money they were due to hand over to JSF into the club instead for transfers, given large transfer fees could potentially cover this ongoing concern?

And yet his band of sycophants still support him,nobody with the exception Goering has harmed, Grimsby as much but even that only lasted 6 years .

Post the link, not the article.

Quoted from EvilFish

Post the link, not the article.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. ;)

It’s a really bizarre stipulation from JF and just confirms every suspicion that he has no regard for the club at all. I’ve been involved in the buying of businesses and if that was part of the deal, it would raise massive red flags.  That money could and should have been used to take the club forward and been totally separate to the 3 instalments they are paying JF

It’s the equivalent of your mortgage company demanding any of your disposable at the end of the month, go to them aswell. It wouldn’t happen!

I guess 1878 have the bonus of having enough surplus cash of there own to rebuild the club that JF watched rot to pieces, without needing the profits from the business itself.

Shameless as usual John.

The right thing to do is to pay him off at the first opportunity, sadly the money is coming from selling the assets that would have no doubt been re-invested in other players, well there you go if nothing else the money from the transfer deals is a means to an end......... the sooner that "end" comes the better for all.      

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The right thing to do is to pay him off at the first opportunity, sadly the money is coming from selling the assets that would have no doubt been re-invested in other players, well there you go if nothing else the money from the transfer deals is a means to an end......... the sooner that "end" comes the better for all.      

I don't like the idea, but you're right. A bit like a cancer, cut it out and get rid of it then things improve. Money can be channeled in the correct way to help the club both on and of the pitch.

With the potential windfall from Dembele (20% or 25%?) we could pay off all the dirty money before the seasons out.......and then we can kick on from there

Fenty,s in Liverpool, so let him rot in the Scouse land, and lets move on. Its a new season, and all i want to hear is the goodness of the Club, i dont want to persistantly read about what the hasbeen is up to. Move on and dont bring his name up again, its a new era.

Let’s pay the deadwood off asap and move on.

Several of us had sussed him out. That doesn’t give me any satisfaction at all, just sadness that he got away with it for so long.

Some of us did since day dot.

Quoted from DB

An update from Cod Almighty


by Tony Butcher
27 August 2021

Following Wednesday’s Radio Humberside session with Chairman Wow, our see-through supremo, we have one question: is the future bright or is it orange?
Town are rolling in it! Or are they? Tony takes a further look at Town's and John Fenty's finances

Just where is that Grist, Pollock and (hopefully impending) Dembele windfall going? Or perhaps the most pertinent question is: in whose bank account is it going to end up, and why?

Oh dear, oh dear, we may be under new owners but the suffocating tentacles of the Fenty regime remain wrapped around our throat. He's gone, but we can't forget him just yet. It's contractual, it's the price we are paying for freedom.

Shall we tie up a few loose ends?

John Shelton Fenty: The taxman cometh

Remember John Fenty’s tax issue? Well, it looks like it has been sorted, straight after he sold Town.

On 26 July 2021 the liquidator of FSF, the company sold by Fenty in 2004, confirmed the following:

a claim had been lodged against the former parent company, which had been defended;
the liquidator had not accepted the points raised in defence;
an offer was made by John Shelton Fenty to settle the liquidation fees, debts and expenses on the basis that the legal action against the parent company ceased;
this offer was not accepted and a further offer was made in May 2021 which was acceptable to her and HMRC.
The final agreement was for a sum that was more than the initial offer from John Shelton Fenty but less than the claim made by the liquidator. Acceptance was a commercial decision based on the expectation that the additional costs in taking the matter to court would be greater than the difference in offer and claim.

The details of the settlement were not finalised at the time of the report, but she expected to pay a dividend to creditors within 6 months. The amount claimed by creditors is shown as £1,373,490.

We shall have to await the liquidator’s final Receipts and Payments report to see exactly how much John Fenty has repaid and whether that includes the both the claim for the missing asset and the unpaid tax.

Beg, steal or borrow? Paying off Fenty's loans

What is publicly known about the terms of the sale of Grimsby Town is set out in the notice to shareholders of a general meeting on 9 April 2021. This detailed the sale transaction for the transfers of shares from John Fenty to 1878 Partners Limited. It stated:

1878 Partners Ltd, a newly formed private limited company will enter into a contract to acquire the certain shares in the capital of GTFC from John Fenty, at a nominal value of £975,000, representing 40.97% of the voting rights in GTFC;
1878 Partners will provide a guarantee that the £1.5m in loans currently owned by GTFC to John Fenty will be repaid in three annual instalments with the final repayment by 31 December 2023;
Mr Stockwood and Mr Pettit will be appointed as directors of GTFC and Mr Stockwood will assume the role of Chair for a fixed term of 3 years;
John Fenty will resign as a director of GTFC.
Messrs Stockwood and Pettit provided a guarantee to repay the Fenty loans, not that they would pay them directly. The club remains liable to repay it all. In simple terms, Town are obliged to pay £500,000 per annum to John Fenty up to the end of 2023.

In the BBC Humberside forum Jason Stockwood confirmed that a further term of the agreement to acquire John Fenty's shares was that any player transfer income would accelerate the repayment of director loans. This condition was an immovable term: John Fenty would not waive this.

The reported up-front fees for Grist and Pollock add up to £410,000, so that's the first instalment nearly covered already. Should there be a Dembele windfall it goes to pay off the director loans from the previous regime.

Blundell Park life would have been so much simpler if only John Fenty had been following the lead of the former owner of Chesterfield, who waived £2.045m in loans when transferring the club to a community trust. I'm sure it gives him an enormous sense of well-being. No wonder the inspired Spireites can afford to pay an alleged £250,000 transfer fee for a non-League striker.

Until John Fenty is paid off he still retards the business. The sooner the better, but we’ll just have accept that until that happens the handbrake is still on.
And then, to quote our WYSIWYG leader, "we can go through the gears in the next few years"

Tomorrow. You never know.

I know this article is about the knob who owned our club previously but the point about Chesterfield… they have insurance that covered COVID and they were paid out a substantial fee, supposedly in excess of £1m. That’s where the Tshimanga money comes from.

Massive town is John. GTFC through and through, always has the clubs best interests at heart.

What an absolute flipping cockrot waste of spunk he really is. I’m sure his sycophants and those hanging out of the back of him will be hear saying he’s entitled to his money (I mean it’s not his as we know) and will find some fictitious anecdotes claiming the new owners aren’t all they’re cracked up to be…blah blah.

It’s quite simple, Fenty copulated us. He bent the club over and copulated it, every which way…

Why do fans still have this male masturbation fest about a former shareholder. He is yesterday’s man. He’s not the future.

Quoted from Marinerdeano

This is not good, however presumably the new directors could then put the money they were due to hand over to JSF into the club instead for transfers, given large transfer fees could potentially cover this ongoing concern?

Wasn't this covered by the thread after JS was interviewed on Radio Humberside and didn't he confirm that if the current directors put money into the club they would likely want their investment back if the club was sold again?

Quoted from exiledmeggie

Why do fans still have this W a n k fest about a former shareholder. He is yesterday’s man. He’s not the future.

Becauae he's still holding us back you berk. Did you read the OP?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146790552@N04/51410951025/in/album-72157719756290637/

Why the empty seats in the Executive Pass Holders in the Youngs Stand, they can't all have been the Fenty family?

Quoted from arryarryarry

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146790552@N04/51410951025/in/album-72157719756290637/

Why the empty seats in the Executive Pass Holders in the Youngs Stand, they can't all have been the Fenty family?

When did a full executive area get your benign loans paid on a Saturday!

Or 3 points

A very horrible greedy man.

Quoted from immariner

Becauae he's still holding us back you berk. Did you read the OP?

Thanks for the compliment. Does he go into the car park at the Findus Stand on match days and collect the parking charges! No. He is not the future of the club. Get over it.

Quoted from exiledmeggie

Thanks for the compliment. Does he go into the car park at the Findus Stand on match days and collect the parking charges! No. He is not the future of the club. Get over it.

He’s still part of the immediate future as transfer fees are going to him (hmrc) and not the club.

Fenty is an important part of our history’s meeting should never be forgotten, forever a reminder of how one man and his ego, and sheer flipping cluelessness ruined a club all whilst bullshitting anyone that would listen…and he’s still flipping that club he so dearly loves apparently without even being here.

We’ll never see him or his cronies ever again and that’s a positive, proves a lot though given they claimed to be massive fans although perhaps had not so honest John not been a massive girl private they’d all be welcome…

Quoted from arryarryarry

Wasn't this covered by the thread after JS was interviewed on Radio Humberside and didn't he confirm that if the current directors put money into the club they would likely want their investment back if the club was sold again?

There is a slight difference here though. Fenty isn't asking for just his money back, he's getting money for the shares the Trust gave him, and let's not forget the money he's taken out of the club over the years. Correct if I'm wrong, but doesn't the overall figure include the £300k he used to buy out Ramsden, £300k which, according the CA article on the Fenty years, was manipulated so that it came out of the clubs coffers?

It’s about time this all stopped now. It’s just getting boring and it’s time to move on FFS.

The man has gone.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

It’s about time this all stopped now. It’s just getting boring and it’s time to move on FFS.

The man has gone.

Hard to hear the truth about your mate and his flipping disgraceful legacy isn’t it…

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

It’s about time this all stopped now. It’s just getting boring and it’s time to move on FFS.

The man has gone.

Never not till this fraudster publically apologises to the fans and does the honourable thing and returns that £200,000 to either mr Parker or the trust till than I shall keep beating the drum he might be your buddy but not mine.

Quoted from marinerjase

Some of us did since day dot.

Yep and got pilloried for it.

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Never not till this fraudster publically apologises to the fans and does the honourable thing and returns that £200,000 to either mr Parker or the trust till than I shall keep beating the drum he might be your buddy but not mine.

I think it was his friend and business associate who was the fraudster not him.

Aside from that, I get the sentiment, but don't see it as a likely occurrence.

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

I think it was his friend and business associate who was the fraudster not him.

Aside from that, I get the sentiment, but don't see it as a likely occurrence.

Not so honest John is a fraud in many ways…

Has JSF made any public comments regarding the £200k relating to the Trust shares?  

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

It’s about time this all stopped now. It’s just getting boring and it’s time to move on FFS.

The man has gone.

Until the last penny of his “benign” loan is repaid he’s not gone and his reign is still holding the club back.

Quoted from RonMariner

Has JSF made any public comments regarding the £200k relating to the Trust shares?  

Should he have paid tax on them?

Quoted from marinerjase

Some of us did since day dot.

It is one of life's little mysteries why more fans generally could not see through him.

Erratic and conniving behaviour all the way through, whilst making no progress whatsoever either on or off the field and his narcissistic behaviour showed the only person John Fenty cared about was John Fenty.

I suppose it is proof that first impressions always seem to stick; he dined out on giving the impression that he was the saviour who helped us in difficult times all those years ago.

Apart from his sycophants any sensible business person soon gave him a wide berth and that tells you all you need to know.

In the future, the fan base should be asking more searching questions regardless of who is in charge, whilst acknowledging the progress being made by the current owners.

Leach comes mind

Quoted from bobbyturtle

Leach comes mind

One is a blood sucking parasite and the other an aquatic invertebrate.

It shows the huge difference between him and Mike Parker.
Would be great if Parker could get back on board somehow again, after all he left a fair wedge of his cash in the club and didn't cry about wanting it back. Guess fingers got burnt as did Mullins.
Shame he cant get the money back out of JSF.

Quoted from monkeyboy

It shows the huge difference between him and Mike Parker.
Would be great if Parker could get back on board somehow again, after all he left a fair wedge of his cash in the club and didn't cry about wanting it back. Guess fingers got burnt as did Mullins.
Shame he cant get the money back out of JSF.

quite frankly i dont want Lee Mullin anywhere near the club either

Quoted from Hagrid

quite frankly i dont want Lee Mullin anywhere near the club either

Reminds me of that bloke who ended up acquiring Sunderland. Absolutely no idea about football whatsoever.

Whatever peoples personal thoughts are about JF, the sooner the money is paid back is better for all concerned.  

Quoted from exiledmeggie

Why do fans still have this W a n k fest about a former shareholder. He is yesterday’s man. He’s not the future.

Because you forget the past at your peril. What he did must be kept alive so it is not repeated or that the warning signs are spotted sooner.

Quoted from rancido

Because you forget the past at your peril. What he did must be kept alive so it is not repeated or that the warning signs are spotted sooner.

Spotted sooner … we had nearly twenty years of shite , people just accepted it and when some did make some noise like protesting in the car park they were slagged off.  

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Spotted sooner … we had nearly twenty years of shite , people just accepted it and when some did make some noise like protesting in the car park they were slagged off.  

To be fair though, when The Leech stumped up the money when a certain Grocer wanted his money back IMMEDIATELY even if the club went under then I never heard any objections from the fans.

Quoted from rancido

To be fair though, when The Leech stumped up the money when a certain Grocer wanted his money back IMMEDIATELY even if the club went under then I never heard any objections from the fans.

I read that it was more to do with club politics than demands from a grocer. To me more like a fishmonger singing a Frank Sinatra number 'My Way'.

Quoted from DB

I read that it was more to do with club politics than demands from a grocer. To me more like a fishmonger singing a Frank Sinatra number 'My Way'.

Maybe but like I said I don't recall any of criticism of his actions. Not defending him but no fans thought anything wrong in it.

Quoted from rancido

Maybe but like I said I don't recall any of criticism of his actions. Not defending him but no fans thought anything wrong in it.

Lots did at the time and were quite vocal in their criticism

Quoted from rancido

Maybe but like I said I don't recall any of criticism of his actions. Not defending him but no fans thought anything wrong in it.

No one criticised his actions maybe, but there were several who were already concerned about his plans for the club.

Quoted from rancido

Because you forget the past at your peril. What he did must be kept alive so it is not repeated or that the warning signs are spotted sooner.

Alas I forgot about the nice grocer, who’s derelict store is opposite what was the Clee Park!

Not the only thing in the past I can remember!

Quoted from rancido

To be fair though, when The Leech stumped up the money when a certain Grocer wanted his money back IMMEDIATELY even if the club went under then I never heard any objections from the fans.

I wonder how many realised what had actually happened as long ago as that. I didn't until I read that series of articles on Cod Almighty. Certainly not what was going on in the early days.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I wonder how many realised what had actually happened as long ago as that. I didn't until I read that series of articles on Cod Almighty. Certainly not what was going on in the early days.

To me this Cod Allfrighty is a sour puss! Has had a bee in his rrrrrrr for some reason, possibly as to why he is not chairman, or could ever be one.

This thing about a previous bored member is getting a tad tired now, time to move on.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

It’s about time this all stopped now. It’s just getting boring and it’s time to move on FFS.

The man has gone.

The guy’s a complete tōōl and it should never be forgotten. All of us make mistakes. Mistakes are part of life, learning and self improvement. However, you can’t make that many mistakes and bizarre (and that’s putting it kindly) decisions unless you are incompetent, corrupt or a complete cûnt.

We will live with His mistakes for another generation, maybe longer. So forgive those of us who struggle to forget the cretin.

Quoted from exiledmeggie

To me this Cod Allfrighty is a sour puss! Has had a bee in his rrrrrrr for some reason, possibly as to why he is not chairman, or could ever be one.

This thing about a previous bored member is getting a tad tired now, time to move on.

Sorry John I think you’re wrong. How’s Liverpool by the way? Hear it’s a great place to live.

By the way what is his ‘rrrrrrrrr’? Is that pronounced ‘Rs’?

Alarmed to hear that Honest John might be in Liverpool. Hope someone has warned him that it's not really the sort of place for an upright, straight-as-a-die businessman like him - full of dodgy builders, shady property developers, fraudsters and million pound tax evaders

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

The guy’s a complete tōōl and it should never be forgotten. All of us make mistakes. Mistakes are part of life, learning and self improvement. However, you can’t make that many mistakes and bizarre (and that’s putting it kindly) decisions unless you are incompetent, corrupt or a complete cûnt.

We will live with His mistakes for another generation, maybe longer. So forgive those of us who struggle to forget the cretin.

Or in Fenty's case all three. Allegedly.

The thing about fans not objecting at the time is an interesting point.

There were those who did object, and it seems, in retrospect, like they were in the minority. A few knew what Fenty was doing at the time. A fleeting article on Cod Almighty apart, it never gained traction.

There were certainly plenty who were apathetic and were happy to go with the flow.

Let's also not ignore the fact that Fenty controlled the communication. He sold the story his way, so we all absorbed the things he wanted us to hear. Propaganda, if you like.

Sadly, and it's no real criticism of anyone, there wasn't a large enough faction of fans to start a movement against him. The vast majority of us just didn't know enough, even though the facts were out there all the time — possibly because we all had busy lives. There are more important things in life than football, after all.

Only when something breaks do we read the terms and conditions. The Alex May incident was, for many, the breaking point. That's when we rose as a collective. Too late? Well, for our Football League status, maybe.

For our existence? No, thank goodness.

Armed with the hindsight and knowledge we have now, I bet we all wish to turn the clock back so we could have got rid of him sooner (or not had him at all in the first place).

But what's done is done. He'll get money he doesn't deserve; the club and all its fans and communities suffer as a result, and so this 1878 era is one of repair — of both finances and trust.

Onwards and upwards from here, that should be our focus now.

Quoted from forza ivano

Alarmed to hear that Honest John might be in Liverpool. Hope someone has warned him that it's not really the sort of place for an upright, straight-as-a-die businessman like him - full of dodgy builders, shady property developers, fraudsters and million pound tax evaders

And allegedly shady councillors! ;)

Quoted from forza ivano

Alarmed to hear that Honest John might be in Liverpool. Hope someone has warned him that it's not really the sort of place for an upright, straight-as-a-die businessman like him - full of dodgy builders, shady property developers, fraudsters and million pound tax evaders

Having just been down Humberston Av, I can tell you that the very expensive, slightly scratched Mercedes is in the drive. And no, I wasn't stalking!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Having just been down Humberston Av, I can tell you that the very expensive, slightly scratched Mercedes is in the drive. And no, I wasn't stalking!

Would you feel happy parking it up in Liverpool ?  ;)

Quoted from Civvy at last

Would you feel happy parking it up in Liverpool ?  ;)

I’d feel happy if he did 😉

What’s he up to in Liverpool out of interest ?

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

What’s he up to in Liverpool out of interest ?

Tyre kicking! 😅

Quoted from Hagrid

quite frankly i dont want Lee Mullin anywhere near the club either

I’m fairly sure he was at the Weymouth game, suited and booted near the directors box. If it wasn’t him then he’s got a lookalike.

Quoted from rancido

Tyre kicking! 😅

Ha ha

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

What’s he up to in Liverpool out of interest ?

Guarding cars?

Quoted from jimgtfc

I’m fairly sure he was at the Weymouth game, suited and booted near the directors box. If it wasn’t him then he’s got a lookalike.

That would be a curse being mistaken for The Leech!

Wonder what would be left of him if he tries it on over there... Mmmmmm

Quoted from denni266

Wonder what would be left of him if he tries it on over there... Mmmmmm

A friend of mine (lady taxi driver) had a customer who absconded without paying so she chased after him and ran him over.

Whatever the situation it is important that we don’t forget the disaster that was John Fenty.

You have to learn from the past but in order to do so you have to remember and discuss it. Fenty was a significant part of the clubs history, a disaster but significant nonetheless, therefore, we must forever remember however painful or anger inducing it is.

His sycophants will always try and talk him up, even on Saturday I heard people still trotting out the lies peddled by him, things that can easily be refuted yet they still use them as evidence that he’s some sort of saviour or decent person. The simple fact his he was a an awful awful owner of our football club but in truth he also seems like a bit of a girl private too. The fact he, an alleged honest chap, owes the taxman a significant amount, used money that wasn’t his to purchase the club and even considered getting in to business with a chap like May (all on secret I hasten to add suggesting he knew damn well it wasn’t really a good idea, nor did he care about transparency) says rather a lot about his character.

We dodged a bullet with the whole May thing, many on here used to claim ‘it could be worse, look at bury/darlo/Chester’ and so forth but had the secret May deal gone through that would have been the likely outcome, however much his sycophants argue opposite.

Sadly for John Fenty, he’s not a scrap of decency nor has a left w legacy of any kind, not a positive one that’s for sure. Try as he might, he never achieved anything other than wasting thousands upon thousands chasing a pipe dream. We had one promotion which he essentially copulated up in the end.

So yes, it is important to remind ourselves of this parasite, this alleged town fan that remains holding the club to ransom for money that isn’t really is, to remind ourselves of just how abysmal his time was. What god awful state the club was in, by doing that, as fans we can make the future a little brighter, and perhaps, next time (hoping there isn’t one) we see those things begin to creep in we don’t swallow the bullshit and stand up and challenge instead of being so passive…

Quoted from aldi_01

Whatever the situation it is important that we don’t forget the disaster that was John Fenty.

You have to learn from the past but in order to do so you have to remember and discuss it. Fenty was a significant part of the clubs history, a disaster but significant nonetheless, therefore, we must forever remember however painful or anger inducing it is.

His sycophants will always try and talk him up, even on Saturday I heard people still trotting out the lies peddled by him, things that can easily be refuted yet they still use them as evidence that he’s some sort of saviour or decent person. The simple fact his he was a an awful awful owner of our football club but in truth he also seems like a bit of a girl private too. The fact he, an alleged honest chap, owes the taxman a significant amount, used money that wasn’t his to purchase the club and even considered getting in to business with a chap like May (all on secret I hasten to add suggesting he knew damn well it wasn’t really a good idea, nor did he care about transparency) says rather a lot about his character.

We dodged a bullet with the whole May thing, many on here used to claim ‘it could be worse, look at bury/darlo/Chester’ and so forth but had the secret May deal gone through that would have been the likely outcome, however much his sycophants argue opposite.

Sadly for John Fenty, he’s not a scrap of decency nor has a left w legacy of any kind, not a positive one that’s for sure. Try as he might, he never achieved anything other than wasting thousands upon thousands chasing a pipe dream. We had one promotion which he essentially copulated up in the end.

So yes, it is important to remind ourselves of this parasite, this alleged town fan that remains holding the club to ransom for money that isn’t really is, to remind ourselves of just how abysmal his time was. What god awful state the club was in, by doing that, as fans we can make the future a little brighter, and perhaps, next time (hoping there isn’t one) we see those things begin to creep in we don’t swallow the bullshit and stand up and challenge instead of being so passive…

When you consider the club has been around for 143 years and he's been in charge for over 10% of that time it doesn't say much for him.

A relatively well-off person tries to use people poorer than him - a community asset - to get richer.

We've seen it first-hand at Grimsby Town and we're also seeing it in the shower of excrement that run this country - squeezing the life out of ordinary citizens for personal gain.

Fenty doesn't bleed black and white, he bleeds blue.

Can we forget about Fenty, I don't see the point in having ANY thread at all to do with him?

Quoted from 123614

Can we forget about Fenty, I don't see the point in having ANY thread at all to do with him?

It's very hard to forget him when he still has a big influence on the club; in so far as he gets all the money from transfers which could be reinvested in the club. This came out of the woodwork only a few days ago and you do have to wonder if there are other events in the offing to promote his bank a/c that we do not know about.

Many words have been offered on this site to describe him but I don't know of any that have not been used to describe his contempt for the fans or club by a so called fan and supporter.

Quoted from 123614

Can we forget about Fenty, I don't see the point in having ANY thread at all to do with him?

Because the twit is still bleeding the club dry from afar.  He's the sole reason our budget is restricted this year and that we're not enjoying the financial benefit from the sale of Grist and Pollock.  Without him we'd have around £500k extra to play with, be it on wages, transfer fees, facilities, staff.....  6 years ago fans raised a quarter of that to boost the budget and it went a long way towards achieving promotion.  Imagine what we could have done with that money?

That's why he's still (unfortunately) relevant and people still talk about him.

I get the frustration but the chair has already said money in doesn’t necessarily equal money out in terms of transfer budget. If Hurst goes to the board for a transfer it will be looked at regardless of what the club has received (and given to Fenty) over the summer.

Anyone that got their hopes up thinking we would reinvest half a million back in to the squad in transfer fees… well I’m sorry but you shouldn’t have regardless of the agreement that was put in place. That agreement btw that the chair seems to have little issue with. It was non-negotiable and if it means that the bloke is paid off sooner then it’s not the worst thing in the world.

Fenty is thankfully gone and we seem to have ourselves some good people running the club at last. It is difficult to forget but it really is time to move on now.

Does anybody know the tax implications of paying this money straight to him ?

TBF  JF is not the devil incarnate.  He took on a role for which he did not have the skill set nor intellect for.
When it all got too much for him, and GTFC started going to excrement and his cash reserve started dwindling, he wanted out.  Then is when he started with the penny pinching and tantrums.  He just did not have what it takes to cope.  As a result he kept GTFC on life support without investing to cure and repair the ills.
Now he has seen his bottom and has taken his ball back home.
Evil? no  Stupid, naïve, petulant, deluded and a complete knob?  yes absolutely.

TBF  JF is not the devil incarnate.  He took on a role for which he did not have the skill set nor intellect for.
When it all got too much for him, and GTFC started going to excrement and his cash reserve started dwindling, he wanted out.  Then is when he started with the penny pinching and tantrums.  He just did not have what it takes to cope.  As a result he kept GTFC on life support without investing to cure and repair the ills.
Now he has seen his bottom and has taken his ball back home.
Evil? no  Stupid, naïve, petulant, deluded and a complete knob?  yes absolutely.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

TBF  JF is not the devil incarnate.  He took on a role for which he did not have the skill set nor intellect for.
When it all got too much for him, and GTFC started going to excrement and his cash reserve started dwindling, he wanted out.  Then is when he started with the penny pinching and tantrums.  He just did not have what it takes to cope.  As a result he kept GTFC on life support without investing to cure and repair the ills.
Now he has seen his bottom and has taken his ball back home.
Evil? no  Stupid, naïve, petulant, deluded and a complete knob?  yes absolutely.

Have you read the series of articles on Cod Almighty? No one is saying he is the devil incarnate.  But the naive, petulant, knob doesn’t cover it. He engineered the situation where he was in control of the club, and took money out. His malapropisms probably made him seem more benign than he was.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

TBF  JF is not the devil incarnate.  He took on a role for which he did not have the skill set nor intellect for.
When it all got too much for him, and GTFC started going to excrement and his cash reserve started dwindling, he wanted out.  Then is when he started with the penny pinching and tantrums.  He just did not have what it takes to cope.  As a result he kept GTFC on life support without investing to cure and repair the ills.
Now he has seen his bottom and has taken his ball back home.
Evil? no  Stupid, naïve, petulant, deluded and a complete knob?  yes absolutely.

So what's your explanation of a 'Stupid, naïve, petulant, deluded' man taking £200K in shares from the supporter's trust. I suppose you want us to believe he didn't intend to do that.

Quoted from 123614

Can we forget about Fenty, I don't see the point in having ANY thread at all to do with him?

Maybe you should leave threads entitled 'JSF' (or similar) well alone.

Can’t really say he’s stupid in the main. Actually making money out of a football club? Not many do that albeit virtually stolen from an ex director.  
His affairs caught up with him in ways he couldn’t squirm out of in the end and knew he had to go.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Because the twit is still bleeding the club dry from afar.  He's the sole reason our budget is restricted this year and that we're not enjoying the financial benefit from the sale of Grist and Pollock.  Without him we'd have around £500k extra to play with, be it on wages, transfer fees, facilities, staff.....  6 years ago fans raised a quarter of that to boost the budget and it went a long way towards achieving promotion.  Imagine what we could have done with that money?

That's why he's still (unfortunately) relevant and people still talk about him.

Said it every time the fans have rallied round to raise funds and will say it again, we should have collectively as a fan group been buying shares with our investment rather than just keep gifting the club 100k here and 50k there, wonder how much we as fans raised over the years, tidy sum i bet

Quoted from Simon

Said it every time the fans have rallied round to raise funds and will say it again, we should have collectively as a fan group been buying shares with our investment rather than just keep gifting the club 100k here and 50k there, wonder how much we as fans raised over the years, tidy sum i bet

He wouldn't have allowed that though. Look what happened when Parker ended up as the biggest shareholder because Fenty didn't fulfill his part of the bargain. He would have held us to ransom and demanded we gifted him them otherwise he would sell a player or pull his funding.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

He wouldn't have allowed that though. Look what happened when Parker ended up as the biggest shareholder because Fenty didn't fulfill his part of the bargain. He would have held us to ransom and demanded we gifted him them otherwise he would sell a player or pull his funding.

That’s the ‘never again moment’

The man is not fit to be called human , snake  yes human no.. he was only in it to make himself look good and to feather his nest ,We should never forget him for what he did to the club  . he was a horible cretin and as far as i am concerned where ever he goes, what we think should alwase be in his face.  Someone out there is going to skin him alive as kama will have its time and we will have ours ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from denni266

The man is not fit to be called human , snake  yes human no.. he was only in it to make himself look good and to feather his nest ,We should never forget him for what he did to the club  . he was a horible cretin and as far as i am concerned where ever he goes, what we think should alwase be in his face.  Someone out there is going to skin him alive as kama will have its time and we will have ours ;D ;D ;D

Bit harsh. The man has a family and I wouldn't ever condone anyone doing anything like that.

I am sure he knows he isn't liked. His political career is finished around here and if he does go back into business locally, even more people will refuse to deal with a business he is associated with.

If anyone does anything criminal towards him or his family, they are just as bad as him, if not worse.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Bit harsh. The man has a family and I wouldn't ever condone anyone doing anything like that.

I am sure he knows he isn't liked. His political career is finished around here and if he does go back into business locally, even more people will refuse to deal with a business he is associated with.

If anyone does anything criminal towards him or his family, they are just as bad as him, if not worse.

Totally agree. We can hate him and never want him near our club again but that's going too far. We need to get him paid off and forget the name John Fenty.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Bit harsh. The man has a family and I wouldn't ever condone anyone doing anything like that.

I am sure he knows he isn't liked. His political career is finished around here and if he does go back into business locally, even more people will refuse to deal with a business he is associated with.

If anyone does anything criminal towards him or his family, they are just as bad as him, if not worse.

I didnt mean criminaly . There are people out there that will be better at doing what he was doing and will rip him off just like he did us and the club . He thought he was clever doing one on a small club and town, sat there with his stupid grin waving at people in the stand. Every season we looked forward to with hope and dreams that it would get better , while he was just pulling the rug from underneith us and planning his next devious plan .

Quoted from lukeo

Totally agree. We can hate him and never want him near our club again but that's going too far. We need to get him paid off and forget the name John Fenty.

Things are still very raw. We kicked off in the National League last week which still hurts and reminds us of his failures. It was only last week that we discovered all transfer money is being sent to him and there is nothing we can do about it so understandably, there is a lot of anger about.

Success on the pitch will help heal that hurt and once he's paid off, the shackles will be off.

We must not forgive or forget what he did but we do need to move on. Lessons need to be learned and to some extent the current board will no doubt be under more scrutiny because of it.

But posts calling for him to be skinned alive, however it's meant, are out of order.

Have a day off ferfúcksake. If you think anyone’s actually called for the bloke to be literally flayed, then maybe the internet isn’t the place for you.

Oh .. and I was looking forward to making a new leather jacket ffs

Tad harsh, 'May his bed be perpetually invaded by ants,and his name accursed forever' will suffice for me

Quoted from friskneymariner

Tad harsh, 'May his bed be perpetually invaded by ants,and his name accursed forever' will suffice for me

Have you been reading Deuteronomy again Vicar?

Quoted from friskneymariner

Tad harsh, 'May his bed be perpetually invaded by ants,and his name accursed forever' will suffice for me

We’re halfway there. Just need the ants now. !!

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his underpants

Quoted from AussieMariner

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his underpants

May his balls turn into bulldogs and bite his male private off.

Quoted from rancido

May his balls turn into bulldogs and bite his male private off.

May his next sh1t be a hedgehog

Quoted from AussieMariner

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his underpants

😆
Carry On Up the Khyber, or Follow That Camel?

Quoted from friskneymariner

Tad harsh, 'May his bed be perpetually invaded by ants,and his name accursed forever' will suffice for me

Red ants

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Red ants

Nah bullet ants.

He’s still got a few sychoph ants, but they’re tonguing his arris not biting it

Quoted from DB

It's very hard to forget him when he still has a big influence on the club; in so far as he gets all the money from transfers which could be reinvested in the club. This came out of the woodwork only a few days ago and you do have to wonder if there are other events in the offing to promote his bank a/c that we do not know about.

Many words have been offered on this site to describe him but I don't know of any that have not been used to describe his contempt for the fans or club by a so called fan and supporter.

The woodwork has creaked again in the DN35 podcast thread:-

'The previous regime didn’t spend the 400k they received for the youth setup on the youth setup'

So where was 400K spent?

Surley if money is given to a club to be spent on a precise thing  it must be an offence in there somewhere. Seems to me with all the things coming out there should be an offical investergation  to how the club has been run for the last 20 yrs and to see if any money has been used / ended somewhere it should not have gone . pref by hmrc  and the police

Quoted from DB

The woodwork has creaked again in the DN35 podcast thread:-

'The previous regime didn’t spend the 400k they received for the youth setup on the youth setup'

So where was 400K spent?

That scratch must’ve been a big fornicator…

Quoted from denni266

Surley if money is given to a club to be spent on a precise thing  it must be an offence in there somewhere. Seems to me with all the things coming out there should be an offical investergation  to how the club has been run for the last 20 yrs and to see if any money has been used / ended somewhere it should not have gone . pref by hmrc  and the police

I couldn't agree with you more but, as time showed many times, the inadequacies of a previous regime are punished on the new owners and club. In effect, the perpetrators get off scot free.

Quoted from DB

I couldn't agree with you more but, as time showed many times, the inadequacies of a previous regime are punished on the new owners and club. In effect, the perpetrators get off scot free.

But we had some amazing people that worked at the club who have been let go apparently…flipping passive wastes of cash all of them…

Quoted from DB

I couldn't agree with you more but, as time showed many times, the inadequacies of a previous regime are punished on the new owners and club. In effect, the perpetrators get off scot free.

Yes i have seen that happen . but i think we are a new company now  . Our new owners are not stupid and may have covered there backs with a whole new company. It should still be looked into and as fenty was in charge it should be him they look in too

I think next time we have the opportunity to ask questions, we should ask about auditors. Weaver Wroot have done it for years and a change might highlight a few things

So one one of the directors was a partner of the club’s legal advisors (before he retired) and another director was a partner of the auditors.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Quoted from denni266

Yes i have seen that happen . but i think we are a new company now  . Our new owners are not stupid and may have covered there backs with a whole new company. It should still be looked into and as fenty was in charge it should be him they look in too

The majority shareholders is a new company, but if there is any historic offence, it’s still GTFC that was the corporate body at fault.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

So one one of the directors was a partner of the club’s legal advisors (before he retired) and another director was a partner of the auditors.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

I’m sure some of the pro Fenty brigade will come here and suggest this is all supposition but dear me, the more we dive the more we find. What an absolute crooked flipping excrement show.

May be that’s why it took so long to get the deal over the line…I bet Day was fed up shoving things through the shredder…but seriously, there should be questions asked; regardless of the old regime being gone, fans deserve to have an understanding of just what state the club was in.

And to think, folk always justified Fenty as ‘it could be worse, we could be bury/darlo etc’…we weren’t much different…

So where did that £400k go? It’s a genuine question…

It just seems to get murkier and murkier…how on earth do people still defend Fenty. I’m also beginning to think the whole lot should’ve gone from the start, they’re lucky they were offered a chance to prove themselves had they wanted it…

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m sure some of the pro Fenty brigade will come here and suggest this is all supposition but dear me, the more we dive the more we find. What an absolute crooked flipping excrement show.

May be that’s why it took so long to get the deal over the line…I bet Day was fed up shoving things through the shredder…but seriously, there should be questions asked; regardless of the old regime being gone, fans deserve to have an understanding of just what state the club was in.

And to think, folk always justified Fenty as ‘it could be worse, we could be bury/darlo etc’…we weren’t much different…

So where did that £400k go? It’s a genuine question…

It just seems to get murkier and murkier…how on earth do people still defend Fenty. I’m also beginning to think the whole lot should’ve gone from the start, they’re lucky they were offered a chance to prove themselves had they wanted it…

I think Day was kept on to nip the relegation appeal in the bud, which was dealt with very quickly indeed.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m sure some of the pro Fenty brigade will come here and suggest this is all supposition but dear me, the more we dive the more we find. What an absolute crooked flipping excrement show.

May be that’s why it took so long to get the deal over the line…I bet Day was fed up shoving things through the shredder…but seriously, there should be questions asked; regardless of the old regime being gone, fans deserve to have an understanding of just what state the club was in.

And to think, folk always justified Fenty as ‘it could be worse, we could be bury/darlo etc’…we weren’t much different…

So where did that £400k go? It’s a genuine question…

It just seems to get murkier and murkier…how on earth do people still defend Fenty. I’m also beginning to think the whole lot should’ve gone from the start, they’re lucky they were offered a chance to prove themselves had they wanted it…

I’m sure there’ll be more to come out over the next few weeks/months. It wasn’t that long ago that we found out about the transfer fee clawback. Now this.

Who would have thought it of the person who held a (metaphorical) gun to the Trust’s head over the Great Share Blag, would have done this eh? If only there had been any signs.

I see his mates are still up. Bet they’re not getting paid…

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I’m sure there’ll be more to come out over the next few weeks/months. It wasn’t that long ago that we found out about the transfer fee clawback. Now this.

Who would have thought it of the person who held a (metaphorical) gun to the Trust’s head over the Great Share Blag, would have done this eh? If only there had been any signs.

The warning signs were there from the start and some of us knew that, hence our disparaging comments. Sadly, too many swallowed the bullshit, some still are and do still think he put money in, saved the club blah blah.

The more we find out the more we need to realise that John Fenty was never a town fan and none of his decisions were in the best interests of the club, quite the opposite really.

We can’t just forget about him, mainly because the club is still uncovering the dodgy dealings that were going on but also because the only way to ensure it doesn’t happen again is to learn from the past…

Embarrassed that I fell for some of the bullshit - I should have known better

Quoted from golfer

Embarrassed that I fell for some of the bullshit - I should have known better

At least you’re admitting it golfer 👍

Quoted from golfer

Embarrassed that I fell for some of the bullshit - I should have known better

I sat on the fence for years. Some of the stuff didn't sit right but "at least we have a club" I kept telling myself.

For me, like many, Alex May being seen going into BP was a step too far.