There is a horrible clic on this group . They savage anyone that they don't agree with without having a mature debate . Fillipe has you sussed out , you know who you are too . A tiny minority on this board that love the sound of their own opinions because obviously their opinions are fact 🙄. John Tonduer is the latest victim of this vile behaviour . Then I dare question the quality of the nominees for the trust election and I get shot down without any of the clic providing an argument . If you think getting rid of JF and his friends will save this club then you are wrong imo .

Whilst I agree with you re the John Tondeur issue it was totally unwarranted and abusive and indicative I am afraid of how unsocial, social media has become.
However in the case of Fellippe he posts with the intent of provoking a strong reaction.Unfortunately people react to him and he is able to elicit the response he requires thus enabling him to play the role of victim .The classic tactic of the passive aggressive,
Unfortunately due to the moderators of this board being totally cowed by the Fenty brigade they adopt a totally deferential attitude.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Whilst I agree with you re the John Tondeur issue it was totally unwarranted and abusive and indicative I am afraid of how unsocial, social media has become.
However in the case of Fellippe he posts with the intent of provoking a strong reaction.Unfortunately people react to him and he is able to elicit the response he requires thus enabling him to play the role of victim .The classic tactic of the passive aggressive,
Unfortunately due to the moderators of this board being totally cowed by the Fenty brigade they adopt a totally deferential attitude.

Thank you for your sensible reply . ☺️

Quoted from friskneymariner

Whilst I agree with you re the John Tondeur issue it was totally unwarranted and abusive and indicative I am afraid of how unsocial, social media has become.
However in the case of Fellippe he posts with the intent of provoking a strong reaction.Unfortunately people react to him and he is able to elicit the response he requires thus enabling him to play the role of victim .The classic tactic of the passive aggressive,
Unfortunately due to the moderators of this board being totally cowed by the Fenty brigade they adopt a totally deferential attitude.

Absolutely bang on Friskney!

Quoted from It Bites

There is a horrible clic on this group . They savage anyone that they don't agree with without having a mature debate . Fillipe has you sussed out , you know who you are too . A tiny minority on this board that love the sound of their own opinions because obviously their opinions are fact 🙄. John Tonduer is the latest victim of this vile behaviour . Then I dare question the quality of the nominees for the trust election and I get shot down without any of the clic providing an argument . If you think getting rid of JF and his friends will save this club then you are wrong imo .

The only thing we need saving from - is JF and his friends!

Do you need reminding of Fenty’s record?

Quoted from Sandford1981

Absolutely bang on Friskney!

Once a psychologist always a psychologist

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

The only thing we need saving from - is JF and his friends!

... and relegation!

Quoted from It Bites

There is a horrible clic on this group . They savage anyone that they don't agree with without having a mature debate . Fillipe has you sussed out , you know who you are too . A tiny minority on this board that love the sound of their own opinions because obviously their opinions are fact 🙄. John Tonduer is the latest victim of this vile behaviour . Then I dare question the quality of the nominees for the trust election and I get shot down without any of the clic providing an argument . If you think getting rid of JF and his friends will save this club then you are wrong imo .

The JT thing was a "minority" of one person (so definitely tiny), a troll, who has now been banned.

Quoted from It Bites

There is a horrible clic on this group . They savage anyone that they don't agree with without having a mature debate . Fillipe has you sussed out , you know who you are too . A tiny minority on this board that love the sound of their own opinions because obviously their opinions are fact 🙄. John Tonduer is the latest victim of this vile behaviour . Then I dare question the quality of the nominees for the trust election and I get shot down without any of the clic providing an argument . If you think getting rid of JF and his friends will save this club then you are wrong imo .

I don't know how to have a mature debate with someone who can't spell "clique".

So it's back to the 'blame the fans' narrative is it? I wonder why you can't sell that idea on a fans' forum...

Quoted from GrimRob

The JT thing was a "minority" of one person (so definitely tiny), a troll, who has now been banned.

Well done Rob. #UTM

Bullies? Ironic that as much bullshit and bile has been spewed by pro Fenty/Fenty’s chums as has by the odd moronic poster moaning about John Tondeur...

Quoted from aldi_01

Bullies? Ironic that as much bullshit and bile has been spewed by pro Fenty/Fenty’s chums as has by the odd moronic poster moaning about John Tondeur...

He has a point though.

Quoted from It Bites

There is a horrible clic on this group . They savage anyone that they don't agree with without having a mature debate . Fillipe has you sussed out , you know who you are too . A tiny minority on this board that love the sound of their own opinions because obviously their opinions are fact 🙄. John Tonduer is the latest victim of this vile behaviour . Then I dare question the quality of the nominees for the trust election and I get shot down without any of the clic providing an argument . If you think getting rid of JF and his friends will save this club then you are wrong imo .

I don't agree with the JT hounding but you forget that this is FANS site who express their views, controversial at times, as they would inside BP.

Where on earth has this bullying come from? Over the last few weeks I have collect more than a fare share of X's , rightly or wrongly, for speaking my opinions. Do I consider I have been bullied?  NO. GROW up and realise that we have free speech in this country and on this site. If you don't like it go away, you don't have to read the truth.

Getting rid of (your words) JF & Co will not save the club. Town have gone from Div2 (old time) to NL and are now in danger of the drop under the control of JF & Co. Over 16 years of financial management and he couldn't repay his own loans so the club could be solvent, why?

On another thread you said 'Mr Fenty'. This implies that you may be a mouth piece for JF. You use the name 'It Bites' well this site has just bitten you back so either get use to it or stick a dummy in your mouth.

Quoted from 137

I don't know how to have a mature debate with someone who can't spell "clique".

So it's back to the 'blame the fans' narrative is it? I wonder why you can't sell that idea on a fans' forum...

You should try it. There's no link between maturity and spelling.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Whilst I agree with you re the John Tondeur issue it was totally unwarranted and abusive and indicative I am afraid of how unsocial, social media has become.
However in the case of Fellippe he posts with the intent of provoking a strong reaction.Unfortunately people react to him and he is able to elicit the response he requires thus enabling him to play the role of victim .The classic tactic of the passive aggressive,
Unfortunately due to the moderators of this board being totally cowed by the Fenty brigade they adopt a totally deferential attitude.

With respect, I feel you are wrong and have judged me poorly.

Go and have a look at the topics I’ve contributed to, and as far as I’m concerned, I’ve given accurate opinion, often backed up. Go and look again at

The takeover by the consortium topic.
The Alex May topic
The John Fenty resigning from the council topic.

Just because there are people on here that do not agree with my point of view, it doesn’t mean I’m wrong or right, or aggressive, or trying to portray myself as a victim. Neither is it an excuse for others on here to lower themselves to such a degree, that they become unkind and abusing towards me. Some would say that is a sign of weakness in character, when folk struggle to accept the opinion or views of others without becoming offensive. Maybe people like that shouldn’t be debating things if that’s how wound up and offensive they become, just because of the opinion of another.

Quoted from 137

I don't know how to have a mature debate with someone who can't spell "clique".

So it's back to the 'blame the fans' narrative is it? I wonder why you can't sell that idea on a fans' forum...

There you go again. This time cruelly having a go at someone for an innocent spelling error.

I see spelling errors from many people, often people who aren’t particularly well educated, maybe even dyslexic to some degree. But they still make a good job of getting their communication across within their own limitations. They don’t need ridiculing for it. They need praising for it.

Some people hey.

People go on a public platform, get disagreement with their views and cry bully.

Social media is what it is. Folk will have a different view, sometimes expressed calmly, sometimes vociferously. Filter out the guff, or why bother? For every 'bully', there are 3 or 4 people who have a sensible debate.

There are certain posters who do my head in, but they have a right to reply, so I tend to skip over their contributions.

I suggest growing a thicker skin, or go read a book.

I'm just sick of the crap in all honesty. We are all football fans and most importantly fans of Grimsby Town, lets face it we are a rare breed as it is. Not everyone is going to get along, not everyone is going to have the same opinion butf forum politics is something we can all do without.

The club are in a excrement state all be it hopefully until we can turn the page on and off the field, but until then just muck in and support the club. Spending time bursting blood vessels over other posters on a football forum is pointless so all I can see with this is you're attempting to fight fire with fire.

Every club has people who are just twits, some are twits for the sake of it, some are just born that way. If someone gripes on you, don't interact with them. Simples. Like I say at the end of the day we all want the best for the club from every angle.

UTM  :)

Shouldn't this thread be non football.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

With respect, I feel you are wrong and have judged me poorly.

Go and have a look at the topics I’ve contributed to, and as far as I’m concerned, I’ve given accurate opinion, often backed up. Go and look again at

The takeover by the consortium topic.
The Alex May topic
The John Fenty resigning from the council topic.

Just because there are people on here that do not agree with my point of view, it doesn’t mean I’m wrong or right, or aggressive, or trying to portray myself as a victim. Neither is it an excuse for others on here to lower themselves to such a degree, that they become unkind and abusing towards me. Some would say that is a sign of weakness in character, when folk struggle to accept the opinion or views of others without becoming offensive. Maybe people like that shouldn’t be debating things if that’s how wound up and offensive they become, just because of the opinion of another.

"as far as I am concerned, I've given an accurate opinion" may be the quote of the day. It says everything about your position and attitude.

An opinion is a view, it is open to interpretation. It can be agreed with or disagreed with. Opinions are not accurate or inaccurate. They are subjective.

Accuracy is a measure of statistics or data. Facts or not facts. Irrefutable if accurate.

Of course you believe that your opinion is accurate, it's your opinion. But it's not accurate. Because it's an opinion. It can't be accurate or inaccurate.

[quote=799]People go on a public platform, get disagreement with their views and cry bully.

Social media is what it is. Folk will have a different view, sometimes expressed calmly, sometimes vociferously. Filter out the guff, or why bother? For every 'bully', there are 3 or 4 people who have a sensible debate.

There are certain posters who do my head in, but they have a right to reply, so I tend to skip over their contributions.

It's the abuse that's thrown at someone for having an opinion . Options aren't FACTS so why get abusive over them ? I blame the media who constantly use opinions as news .

The trolls are in danger of over running this site, now.  :)

If you see someone who posts something that is blatantly untrue, such as about how wonderful John Fenty has been for GTFC, you know what they are after.

Don't give it to them. They'll soon get bored.

Quoted from It Bites

[quote=799]People go on a public platform, get disagreement with their views and cry bully.

Social media is what it is. Folk will have a different view, sometimes expressed calmly, sometimes vociferously. Filter out the guff, or why bother? For every 'bully', there are 3 or 4 people who have a sensible debate.

There are certain posters who do my head in, but they have a right to reply, so I tend to skip over their contributions.

It's the abuse that's thrown at someone for having an opinion . Options aren't FACTS so why get abusive over them ? I blame the media who constantly use opinions as news .

This is what you are doing now

Quoted from BlackandWhiteBarmy2

Shouldn't this thread be non football.

Why ? It's all related to how we discuss Towns problems and future success.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

There you go again. This time cruelly having a go at someone for an innocent spelling error.

I see spelling errors from many people, often people who aren’t particularly well educated, maybe even dyslexic to some degree. But they still make a good job of getting their communication across within their own limitations. They don’t need ridiculing for it. They need praising for it.

Some people hey.

Keep posting Fillipe all good material for my case study.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

With respect, I feel you are wrong and have judged me poorly.

Go and have a look at the topics I’ve contributed to, and as far as I’m concerned, I’ve given accurate opinion, often backed up. Go and look again at

The takeover by the consortium topic.
The Alex May topic
The John Fenty resigning from the council topic.

Just because there are people on here that do not agree with my point of view, it doesn’t mean I’m wrong or right, or aggressive, or trying to portray myself as a victim. Neither is it an excuse for others on here to lower themselves to such a degree, that they become unkind and abusing towards me. Some would say that is a sign of weakness in character, when folk struggle to accept the opinion or views of others without becoming offensive. Maybe people like that shouldn’t be debating things if that’s how wound up and offensive they become, just because of the opinion of another.

Give over you love it,it most likely fulfills some unmet need you have probably emanating from some childhood trauma,very sad you have to seek your therapy on here .I am available for private consultations  at a very reasonable fee

Quoted from friskneymariner

Keep posting Fillipe all good material for my case study.

If you haven't already, read The Psycopath Test by Jon Ronson. Very insightful.

Quoted from DB

Why ? It's all related to how we discuss Towns problems and future success.

No it isn't. It is a thread about forum politics and alleged bullying of posters for having contrary opinions. It's only connection with football matters pertaining to Grimsby Town is that it has been initiated on a Grimsby Town football forum.

We may as well have the thread you started about Jesus on the football board as it's related to how Grimsby Town fans discuss Jesus and faith.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

With respect, I feel you are wrong and have judged me poorly.

Go and have a look at the topics I’ve contributed to, and as far as I’m concerned, I’ve given accurate opinion, often backed up. Go and look again at

The takeover by the consortium topic.
The Alex May topic
The John Fenty resigning from the council topic.

Just because there are people on here that do not agree with my point of view, it doesn’t mean I’m wrong or right, or aggressive, or trying to portray myself as a victim. Neither is it an excuse for others on here to lower themselves to such a degree, that they become unkind and abusing towards me. Some would say that is a sign of weakness in character, when folk struggle to accept the opinion or views of others without becoming offensive. Maybe people like that shouldn’t be debating things if that’s how wound up and offensive they become, just because of the opinion of another.

Having been present on the forum when you arrived at the end of December, I do seem to remember you insinuating that you had joined to stir things up because you were bored (or something to that effect).

If you are being sincere now, then you have my respect, even if our views and opinions may differ.

Hopefully we can all move on soon.

FFS. Grow up all of you.  :(

Quoted from BlackandWhiteBarmy2

No it isn't. It is a thread about forum politics and alleged bullying of posters for having contrary opinions. It's only connection with football matters pertaining to Grimsby Town is that it has been initiated on a Grimsby Town football forum.

We may as well have the thread you started about Jesus on the football board as it's related to how Grimsby Town fans discuss Jesus and faith.

If Jesus was the majority shareholder and had been responsible for 16 years of stagnation then it would be appropriate,but as far as I know he is not responsible.  

Quoted from MarinerMal

The trolls are in danger of over running this site, now.  :)

If you see someone who posts something that is blatantly untrue, such as about how wonderful John Fenty has been for GTFC, you know what they are after.

Don't give it to them. They'll soon get bored.

Don’t worry we can just call them trolls and they end up getting banned!
Censorship is strong on the Fishy if you happen to be in the wrong camp.

Quoted from BlackandWhiteBarmy2

No it isn't. It is a thread about forum politics and alleged bullying of posters for having contrary opinions. It's only connection with football matters pertaining to Grimsby Town is that it has been initiated on a Grimsby Town football forum.

We may as well have the thread you started about Jesus on the football board as it's related to how Grimsby Town fans discuss Jesus and faith.

So go tell Fillipe Noche & co

Yes please Rob can you do this, it seems BWB2 would like it. However I believe, as well as I believe Jesus Christ, that I posted the thread correctly on the non football site.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Give over you love it,it most likely fulfills some unmet need you have probably emanating from some childhood trauma,very sad you have to seek your therapy on here .I am available for private consultations  at a very reasonable fee

There it is again. This time you have conducted a complete and utter character and well being assassination.

You have absolutely no idea about anything to do with my life as a child, as a person, or any health issues, be that physical or mental well being. But, to throw and insult, cause upset etc. you have made this completely fabricated and judgemental insinuation. Furthermore you have felt completely at ease is tapping this out on your keyboard to cause offence or spark humour at someone’s expense.

But you really cannot see it can you.

Your not some sort of clever therapist or mental scientist. You are just trying to cause hurt and drama. It’s really not nice and it’s uncalled for.

As I said in my original post on this topic, go and have a look at the historical posts I’ve made. They are merely my opinions in a discussion. Nothing offensive, nothing hateful and nothing spiteful. Yes there are things I’ve said to outline how I personally value what John Fenty has done for our club in my opinion. If people on here like you, are going to take offence at such an opinion, and become hurtful as a result of that opinion, then frankly that says more about those people than it does about me.

I didn’t join this group quite recently to spark reactions, upset people or cause offence. Neither do I think I’ve written in a way that should cause hurt or offence. It’s merely my opinions and I joined at a time when things in our club were becoming quite interesting.

I certainly am not a mouth or voice for any person connected at the club either. This is not some silly game of propaganda.

I think the original poster might be right you know, there might just be an unsavoury clique in this group, but I try not to be judgemental.

Have a good day

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Having been present on the forum when you arrived at the end of December, I do seem to remember you insinuating that you had joined to stir things up because you were bored (or something to that effect).

If you are being sincere now, then you have my respect, even if our views and opinions may differ.

Hopefully we can all move on soon.

Wow I can’t believe I’ve just read that. I have never suggested anything of the sort. That’s an awful thing to say

Oh well

Rob,

Is it possible to give us a rough percentage of the subscribers to the Fishy who are NOT toddlers?

Getting a bit wearing this, isn't it?

I won't bring it on here but I will plug the thread about Jesus (not the one who plays for Man City) for you DB

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1613920678/s-new/

this thread will be joining it on non-football soon I dare say

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

There it is again. This time you have conducted a complete and utter character and well being assassination.

You have absolutely no idea about anything to do with my life as a child, as a person, or any health issues, be that physical or mental well being. But, to throw and insult, cause upset etc. you have made this completely fabricated and judgemental insinuation. Furthermore you have felt completely at ease is tapping this out on your keyboard to cause offence or spark humour at someone’s expense.

But you really cannot see it can you.

Your not some sort of clever therapist or mental scientist. You are just trying to cause hurt and drama. It’s really not nice and it’s uncalled for.

As I said in my original post on this topic, go and have a look at the historical posts I’ve made. They are merely my opinions in a discussion. Nothing offensive, nothing hateful and nothing spiteful. Yes there are things I’ve said to outline how I personally value what John Fenty has done for our club in my opinion. If people on here like you, are going to take offence at such an opinion, and become hurtful as a result of that opinion, then frankly that says more about those people than it does about me.

I didn’t join this group quite recently to spark reactions, upset people or cause offence. Neither do I think I’ve written in a way that should cause hurt or offence. It’s merely my opinions and I joined at a time when things in our club were becoming quite interesting.

I certainly am not a mouth or voice for any person connected at the club either. This is not some silly game of propaganda.

I think the original poster might be right you know, there might just be an unsavoury clique in this group, but I try not to be judgemental.

Have a good day

Stop press
Cooking  utensil make racist assertion about implement used to heat water

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Getting a bit wearing this, isn't it?

I agree.

Sorry if I’ve added to this, but I was hardly going to see my name in the title of a topic and not drop into it to see what was being said about me was I

As always, I’ve given my opinion on this and I’ll leave it at that Old Codger and move on. I think it’s probably crystal clear anyway isn’t it with a certain irony to some of the replies to this guys topic in exactly the manner he has pointed out

Take care all

Getting boring all these squabbles but while everyone is posting under a hidden identity your not going to stop it

Don't post anything you wouldn't post in your own name or say face to face, all this negativity isn't doing anyone any favours

Quoted from Simon

Getting boring all these squabbles but while everyone is posting under a hidden identity your not going to stop it

Don't post anything you wouldn't post in your own name or say face to face, all this negativity isn't doing anyone any favours

The best post in a long long time. UTM

Quoted from Simon

Getting boring all these squabbles but while everyone is posting under a hidden identity your not going to stop it

Don't post anything you wouldn't post in your own name or say face to face, all this negativity isn't doing anyone any favours

Spot on

Quoted from sonik

The best post in a long long time. UTM

Ah, I get it. Sonik is you’re name. Are you really a hedgehog or is that just a role?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Ah, I get it. Sonik is you’re name. Are you really a hedgehog or is that just a role?

*In a Neil from The Young Ones voice*

We're all hedgehogs in some way man. One day you're the hedgehog, the next day you're the truck.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

There you go again. This time cruelly having a go at someone for an innocent spelling error.

I see spelling errors from many people, often people who aren’t particularly well educated, maybe even dyslexic to some degree. But they still make a good job of getting their communication across within their own limitations. They don’t need ridiculing for it. They need praising for it.

Some people hey.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

You should try it. There's no link between maturity and spelling.

I expressed myself poorly.

( I have made the point previously on this forum that Shakespeare is known to have spelt his surname at least 14 different ways. )

However, if you type in 'clic' on the fishy you get a red wavy line underneath to signify this letter arrangement is not recognized.
The google answer is a few clicks away.
The OP obviously couldn't be @rsed to do that.
So excuse me if I can't be @rsed to enter into "meaningful debate" with said individual.

Quoted from 137

I expressed myself poorly.

( I have made the point previously on this forum that Shakespeare is known to have spelt his surname at least 14 different ways. )

However, if you type in 'clic' on the fishy you get a red wavy line underneath to signify this letter arrangement is not recognized.
The google answer is a few clicks away.
The OP obviously couldn't be @rsed to do that.
So excuse me if I can't be @rsed to enter into "meaningful debate" with said individual.

Definitions for pedantic and petty are only a few cliques away!