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Posted by: cannylad68, February 21, 2021, 9:41am
Fast Deal  1000/1 on Betfair.

Will it complete the course?
Posted by: louth_in_the_south, February 21, 2021, 10:08am; Reply: 1
Why the fook would you run a horse rated 47 against that field ? Just sums up the cretins we’ve had involved with gtfc for years
Posted by: supertown, February 21, 2021, 10:12am; Reply: 2
Maybe it’s a con. Deliberately make it look like a crap horse , then lump on it and storm it
Posted by: Davec, February 21, 2021, 10:46am; Reply: 3
I've never seen a good Michael Chapman horse, every race he enters his horses always seem to be no hopers who has no chance of even finishing the race let alone winning the race.

He must be one of the worst trainers around.

He can't do it for the success, he clearly does it for the passion.
Posted by: supertown, February 21, 2021, 11:02am; Reply: 4
I don’t know much about racing but to be fair to mr chapman , it’s his first race under him
Posted by: louth_in_the_south, February 21, 2021, 11:58am; Reply: 5
His stable is basically just the equivalent of a dogs home with gullible owners
Posted by: LH, February 21, 2021, 11:58am; Reply: 6
Something not right about that. Is he helping the bookies out by bringing the odds down of the other horses?
Posted by: louth_in_the_south, February 21, 2021, 12:07pm; Reply: 7
No just a lazy trainer who can’t be arsed to take a horse to run in a suitable race somewhere like fakenham because Rasen is a couple of miles away
Posted by: paul1717, February 21, 2021, 12:28pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from louth_in_the_south
His stable is basically just the equivalent of a dogs home with gullible owners


The horse recently changed owner and trainer, Tim Easterby to M Chapman (£1.200).

The usual tactics of putting a horse in a small field hoping to get the crumbs of the prize money.

With only 5 runners in this race, if the horse manages to even get 4th position due to a faller the prize money is £971. Who knows what a few Royal Jelly capsules may do.

That money will certainly buy a few bales of the specially imported hay from Ireland (apparently its better grass than ours).

Just hope the jockey finishes the race unscathed unlike Billly Worthington (snr) who rode for Chapman (Terdad) that nearly cost him his life and certainly ended his riding career.



Posted by: MuddyWaters, February 21, 2021, 2:22pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from louth_in_the_south
No just a lazy trainer who can’t be arsed to take a horse to run in a suitable race somewhere like fakenham because Rasen is a couple of miles away


He can literally walk his horses to Rasen races, stable is just behind Duckworths.
Posted by: cannylad68, February 21, 2021, 2:28pm; Reply: 10
Only just beaten by 86 lengths.
Posted by: carrot top, February 21, 2021, 2:32pm; Reply: 11
finished 4th 86 lengths behind winner - 4 finished
Posted by: cannylad68, February 21, 2021, 2:38pm; Reply: 12
Wins £971 prize money.
Posted by: paul1717, February 21, 2021, 3:04pm; Reply: 13
Well Chappy pulled it off picking up the crumbs.
1 of the 5 pulls up, Fast Deal tailed off but gets over the line 97 lengths adrift at 300/1.

I think the years are showing now and the knackers yard is drawing closer, much to the disappointment of William Hill, Ladbrokes et al.

Bless him.  ;) ;)

(86 Length behind the horse that came 3rd.)
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, February 21, 2021, 3:07pm; Reply: 14
Backed a horse at 10/1 at down royal last week


Came in at half two


🚕
Posted by: Shipwrecked In Gainsborough, February 21, 2021, 3:28pm; Reply: 15
You also used to get £400 appearance money for running your horse on a Sunday. This is on top of any prizemoney that may be won and was to help compensate for the perceived extra costs involved in running a horse on a Sunday. When you have literally walked the horse across the road to compete, those extra costs won't exist in this instance, so more reasons to be cheerful as far as Mr Chapman is concerned. He is well known for spotting every little trick in the book to eek out a few quid wherever he can.
Posted by: paul1717, February 21, 2021, 3:36pm; Reply: 16
You also used to get £400 appearance money for running your horse on a Sunday. This is on top of any prizemoney that may be won and was to help compensate for the perceived extra costs involved in running a horse on a Sunday. When you have literally walked the horse across the road to compete, those extra costs won't exist in this instance, so more reasons to be cheerful as far as Mr Chapman is concerned. He is well known for spotting every little trick in the book to eek out a few quid wherever he can.


He played that card at Cartmel no end of times although I don't know if it still applies. :-/
Posted by: Shipwrecked In Gainsborough, February 21, 2021, 4:20pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from paul1717


He played that card at Cartmel no end of times although I don't know if it still applies. :-/


Cartmel was his regular festival of Tricks. Think his whole string was entered for races up there for the August bank holiday weekend. Beautiful part of the country and a fantastic weekend if you ever get the chance to go. Loved by Mr C  and aesthetically i can see why. But being a tiny racecourse in the middle of nowhere, with poor transport links and traditionally not having the luxury of a watering system(maybe they do now but doubt it), lets just call the ground they raced on usually on the lively side. So they would sometimes struggle for runners. This was their biggest fear, tens of thousands of paying customers(big holiday crowds at that time of year) wanting competitive racing, but not bothering to go as they had only managed to get a few horses to enter each race. Their solution was to offer generous subsidies/payments to connections who would be prepared to run their horses. The trainer and owner would be treat like kings and some of em loved this. Mr C would often run his twice over the weekend to fill his boots with the handouts. The equine opposition was let's say at the slower end of the racehorse population(being generous here), so in addition to all the subsidy money, he might even get his annual winner !!. Reasons to be cheerful part 3 !
Posted by: cannylad68, February 21, 2021, 6:59pm; Reply: 18
I believe his wife is from Cartmel.
Posted by: golfer, February 21, 2021, 7:19pm; Reply: 19
Don't tell me the result yet - going to watch it on catchup. Michael said it's going places so who am I to dispute- had £10K to finish in the first 3. Whatever I win will donate to JSF's retirement party.
Posted by: Total Hawsehole, February 21, 2021, 8:30pm; Reply: 20
I'd have put my money on the Dalai Lama. If I was a Tibetan man.
Posted by: BobbyCummingsTackle, February 22, 2021, 10:36am; Reply: 21


Cartmel was his regular festival of Tricks. Think his whole string was entered for races up there for the August bank holiday weekend. Beautiful part of the country and a fantastic weekend if you ever get the chance to go. Loved by Mr C  and aesthetically i can see why. But being a tiny racecourse in the middle of nowhere, with poor transport links and traditionally not having the luxury of a watering system(maybe they do now but doubt it), lets just call the ground they raced on usually on the lively side. So they would sometimes struggle for runners. This was their biggest fear, tens of thousands of paying customers(big holiday crowds at that time of year) wanting competitive racing, but not bothering to go as they had only managed to get a few horses to enter each race. Their solution was to offer generous subsidies/payments to connections who would be prepared to run their horses. The trainer and owner would be treat like kings and some of em loved this. Mr C would often run his twice over the weekend to fill his boots with the handouts. The equine opposition was let's say at the slower end of the racehorse population(being generous here), so in addition to all the subsidy money, he might even get his annual winner !!. Reasons to be cheerful part 3 !



A watering system? It's in the bloody Lake District!!!!!  :)
Posted by: Shipwrecked In Gainsborough, February 22, 2021, 11:35am; Reply: 22



A watering system? It's in the bloody Lake District!!!!!  :)


It can and does get hot & dry in August, that's why it's packed with tourists in August. Guess that's also why they hold their " August Bank Holiday " festival at that time of year.
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