Signing this lad from Ipswich got me thinking. Ipswich Town have often been in the top flight of English football whilst I have been following football, and have had some great players in the past. They used to get big gates by our standard, although obviously they have been going through a right time of it in the last few years.

Ipswich is a port, a bit out on a limb. Not the easiest place to get to. Gets a bad press sometimes.

The population of Ipswich is less than North East Lincolnshire at about 135,000.

With new owners, a new stadium, and a proper infrastructure and improving times a million in all areas of our operation, could we become what Ipswich Town used to be?

or Burnley or Bournemouth or various others, we should've got a new ground when we were already up there with them or above them and who knows where we'd be now but ohwell, here's hoping that one day we'll ride high again.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Signing this lad from Ipswich got me thinking. Ipswich Town have often been in the top flight of English football whilst I have been following football, and have had some great players in the past. They used to get big gates by our standard, although obviously they have been going through a right time of it in the last few years.

Ipswich is a port, a bit out on a limb. Not the easiest place to get to. Gets a bad press sometimes.

The population of Ipswich is less than North East Lincolnshire at about 135,000.

With new owners, a new stadium, and a proper infrastructure and improving times a million in all areas of our operation, could we become what Ipswich Town used to be?

started on the vino and wacky backy early have we Lew? ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Signing this lad from Ipswich got me thinking. Ipswich Town have often been in the top flight of English football whilst I have been following football, and have had some great players in the past. They used to get big gates by our standard, although obviously they have been going through a right time of it in the last few years.

Ipswich is a port, a bit out on a limb. Not the easiest place to get to. Gets a bad press sometimes.

The population of Ipswich is less than North East Lincolnshire at about 135,000.

With new owners, a new stadium, and a proper infrastructure and improving times a million in all areas of our operation, could we become what Ipswich Town used to be?

Could we finish in the top 3 of the league, win the UEFA Cup and spend several decades in the top flight? I think we all know the answer to that.

Quoted from forza ivano

started on the vino and wacky backy early have we Lew? ;D ;D ;D

Well funnily enough... ;D

The reason I brought the subject up is the similarity of the two areas. Normally any suggestion we could become like x club is that they are better placed, they have a bigger population, they are near big cities, etc etc. This is not the case with Ipswich, is it?

Yes they have had a great footballing tradition, but so did we albeit somewhat earlier.

The new owners will be positive, and will be trying to emulate other clubs that have gone from rags to riches and I thought Ipswich was a great example.

We are up North. Ipswich commuting distance from london for Rita Ora's parties

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Well funnily enough... ;D

The reason I brought the subject up is the similarity of the two areas. Normally any suggestion we could become like x club is that they are better placed, they have a bigger population, they are near big cities, etc etc. This is not the case with Ipswich, is it?

Yes they have had a great footballing tradition, but so did we albeit somewhat earlier.

The new owners will be positive, and will be trying to emulate other clubs that have gone from rags to riches and I thought Ipswich was a great example.

don't forget they'd won the league and competed in Europe in the  early 60's , have always had a far bigger fan base and are easily accessible from Essex/East london which is an enormous catchment area

imho i'd be looking to do a 21st century, bigger, better Crewe type project. I'd love the Holy Trinity to appoint someone to look at how the smaller clubs on the continent have got success and get some fresh ideas as to how we could build up to become a club that others were envious of

Quoted from forza ivano

don't forget they'd won the league and competed in Europe in the  early 60's , have always had a far bigger fan base and are easily accessible from Essex/East london which is an enormous catchment area

Yes I know their history as they were a great team in the 60's when I was growing up. One of the questions is why have they always had a bigger fan base, when their population is smaller?

We are a lot more accessible to the big northern cities than Ipswich, aren't we? If you come from Leeds the journey to Ipswich is more daunting isn't it?

Perhaps I ought to temper my enthusiasm then and say could we become more like Ipswich Town? If not, who are we trying to emulate?

Where's Swin when you want him   ;D

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

With new owners, a new stadium, and a proper infrastructure and improving times a million in all areas of our operation, could we become what Ipswich Town used to be?

Probably not, but there's no reason why we can't become what they are now....a mid-table third division club...that would do for a start.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Yes I know their history as they were a great team in the 60's when I was growing up. One of the questions is why have they always had a bigger fan base, when their population is smaller?

We are a lot more accessible to the big northern cities than Ipswich, aren't we? If you come from Leeds the journey to Ipswich is more daunting isn't it?

Perhaps I ought to temper my enthusiasm then and say could we become more like Ipswich Town? If not, who are we trying to emulate?

Hartlepools, darlington, Chesterfield or even Stockton

Just shows you how our location holds us back when you look at how well Burnley are doing, population 73,021 (2001 Census)

Good thread.

Can Grimsby ever be like Ipswich?. Don't see it personally but like others have said a new ground will go a long way to securing more league 2 stability.

I think what has let Grimsby down is the collapse of the fish market. What was once a thriving community has now gone down hill.

When speaking to outsiders who dont come from the area a lot seem to think Grimsby is a bit of a dump(some would be signings in football may think the same) . For me though there's good hardworking people in the area and Ive found they tend to be more friendlier in Lincolnshire than say London. Yes Grimsby  has its share of problems but I try to look at the positives. Beautiful countryside and coast on your doorstep as well .

Quoted from promotion plaice

Just shows you how our location holds us back when you look at how well Burnley are doing, population 73,021 (2001 Census)

What Dyche has achieved there is amazing, not sure why a bigger club as never come in for him.

Have Ipswich got a young budding Trevor Whymark type going spare ??

Ipswich have had 1 Football League promotion in the last 30-ish years and are tumbling down the divisions - are they the new GTFC?

When we were talking about a new training ground near Donny etc. to attract new players. somebody posted that attracting new players wasn't a problem when we were a championship club. Thanks to JF that's a world away at the moment.

So location is not a problem if you are successful. What we need from the new consortium is some form of commitment to propel the club forward. I can remember Bournemouth being in the realms of the lower leagues like we are now. They may now be in the championship but held their own for a few years in the prem, without building a new stadium. Likewise Darlington had a new stadium!

Hopefully the future can be rosy, new owners, new manager and a new beginning soon. 3 points on Saturday would give us impetus.

UTM

Ipswich are the only league team in Suffolk and fans travel from Newmarket Mildenhall Haverhill Bury St Edmunds and Sudbury to support them.

Travelling distance to London is just over an hour away.

So a bit different to Grimsby.

Quoted from DB

[b]When we were talking about a new training ground near Donny [/b]etc. to attract new players. somebody posted that attracting new players wasn't a problem when we were a championship club. Thanks to JF that's a world away at the moment.

So location is not a problem if you are successful. What we need from the new consortium is some form of commitment to propel the club forward. I can remember Bournemouth being in the realms of the lower leagues like we are now. They may now be in the championship but held their own for a few years in the prem, without building a new stadium. Likewise Darlington had a new stadium!

Hopefully the future can be rosy, new owners, new manager and a new beginning soon. 3 points on Saturday would give us impetus.

UTM

Ipswich really isn’t out on a limb. It’s a great southern location, easily commutable to from densely populated areas that are desirable places to live.

Attracting players to a place like Ipswich would be a million times easier than it is to get players to come and live on NE Lincolnshire, one of the most deprived areas in England. A sad indictment I grant you, yet factually correct.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Ipswich really isn’t out on a limb. It’s a great southern location, easily commutable to from densely populated areas that are desirable places to live.

Attracting players to a place like Ipswich would be a million times easier than it is to get players to come and live on NE Lincolnshire, one of the most deprived areas in England. A sad indictment I grant you, yet factually correct.

Because of covid people are leaving cities for desirable rural locations, like Lincolnshire in all its names.

I once had the misfortune to visit 'Del Boy' country South London, burnt out cars, rubbish all over burnt out skips. They would say our worst areas are luxury.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

Ipswich really isn’t out on a limb. It’s a great southern location, easily commutable to from densely populated areas that are desirable places to live.

Attracting players to a place like Ipswich would be a million times easier than it is to get players to come and live on NE Lincolnshire, one of the most deprived areas in England. A sad indictment I grant you, yet factually correct.

Your mate wouldn't have made a success of it if we were situated in Chelsea. You have been fed a diet of can't do, excuses at the ready to prove honest John tried his best but it is impossible to make a success of the club "because its Grimsby you see."

Just like us, Ipswich has a lot of bad press, and it is difficult to get to from the north (amazingly a lot of people and players live in the north) You cannot do a lot about location, but Grimsby is about to prosper due to offshore energy and hopefully, the fishing industry will pick up. We have a larger population than Ipswich and big clubs to support are miles away.

There is a lot to be positive about, assuming we can sort the mess out your mate is responsible for.

The new consortium is heavily into the regeneration of the town as well as the club and things will look a lot different to what your Poundland mate could ever envisage.

Quoted from DB

Because of covid people are leaving cities for desirable rural locations, like Lincolnshire in all its names.

I once had the misfortune to visit 'Del Boy' country South London, burnt out cars, rubbish all over burnt out skips. They would say our worst areas are luxury.

Not without a decent paying job they wouldn’t

Quoted from DB

Because of covid people are leaving cities for desirable rural locations, like Lincolnshire in all its names.

I once had the misfortune to visit 'Del Boy' country South London, burnt out cars, rubbish all over burnt out skips. They would say our worst areas are luxury.

Peckham’s come up, slipped on the white sports socks and sliders (Adidas or Nike) and now has the property prices to prove it.

Great night out

Art galleries, Frank’s Café, The Bussey Club...

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Peckham’s come up, slipped on the white sports socks and sliders (Adidas or Nike) and now has the property prices to prove it.

Great night out

Art galleries, Frank’s Café, The Bussey Club...

Pleased to hear it. I was there over 15 years ago.

Quoted from DB

Pleased to hear it. I was there over 15 years ago.

Yeah, I saw the blue plaque

Quoted from grimsby pete

Ipswich are the only league team in Suffolk and fans travel from Newmarket Mildenhall Haverhill Bury St Edmunds and Sudbury to support them.

Travelling distance to London is just over an hour away.

So a bit different to Grimsby.

The great thing about Ipswich is its situation. It's equidistant between London and Norwich.

I think we start by reigniting the love for the club across the town. Make it something to be proud of. Winning isn't everything. If we can't walk a league or win every week, we need to be doing other things that get noticed for their originality.

About 10 years ago I used to work in the Pontefract and Castleford area — Wakefield too. They are all rugby league mad. The passion is incredible.

I used to travel through Featherstone. If you haven't been there, it's tiny. Probably no bigger than Louth. Population probably similar too. But the attendances they get, considering their population, is immense.

If you're from the town, you go to the games. It's just what you do.

I think we need to get that culture back into Grimsby. Make attending games just something you do; part of your lifestyle. If you're born in Grimsby, work in Grimsby, have family in Grimsby (or surrounding areas), you go to the game.

Featherstone haven't had any real success for decades, but the local people go because of routine and history and it's just a way of life.

Edit - people like Stockwood will look at other sports to see if there's anything we can learn and bring back into football. All good visionaries look at areas outside their own for inspiration. Can we learn from the Featherstone blueprint? Or abroad, as has been suggested.

If we can get that going for us, that's our starting point.

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What Dyche has achieved there is amazing, not sure why a bigger club as never come in for him.

I can.

He’s done an incredible job and is perfect for Burnley. But his only jump off point from Burnley will be Palace, when Hodgson finally hangs up the falconry glove, Newcastle or a sideways move to somewhere like West Brom.

Dyche doesn’t rotate his first eleven. He hardly makes any subs most games. I remember watching the Norwich match last July when Burnley were 1-0 up against 9 men for the whole of the 2nd half. It was turgid stuff and he still didn’t bring on the likes of Benson and Driscoll-Glennon, even though it was a dead rubber.

Rightly or wrongly, if Dyche walked into one of the top 10 EPL sides, he would get little respect from the players or fans. He wouldn’t last a month. He just wouldn’t be given the time regardless of his abilities.

Burnley’s only foreign (non home nation) players are Chris Wood (NZ), Erik Pieters (Dutch but ex-Stoke, so he’s as British as wonky teeth), Vydra (Hungarian and rarely starts) and Gudmundsson (Icelandic).

Dyche works brilliantly with British players. There’s nothing wrong with that. But put him in the Chelsea or Man City dressing room and Dyche would have no chance.

We will never know how good a manager Dyche is because he will never have the opportunity to show it.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Signing this lad from Ipswich got me thinking. Ipswich Town have often been in the top flight of English football whilst I have been following football, and have had some great players in the past. They used to get big gates by our standard, although obviously they have been going through a right time of it in the last few years.

Ipswich is a port, a bit out on a limb. Not the easiest place to get to. Gets a bad press sometimes.

The population of Ipswich is less than North East Lincolnshire at about 135,000.

With new owners, a new stadium, and a proper infrastructure and improving times a million in all areas of our operation, could we become what Ipswich Town used to be?

No

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I can.

He’s done an incredible job and is perfect for Burnley. But his only jump off point from Burnley will be Palace, when Hodgson finally hangs up the falconry glove, Newcastle or a sideways move to somewhere like West Brom.

Dyche doesn’t rotate his first eleven. He hardly makes any subs most games. I remember watching the Norwich match last July when Burnley were 1-0 up against 9 men for the whole of the 2nd half. It was turgid stuff and he still didn’t bring on the likes of Benson and Driscoll-Glennon, even though it was a dead rubber.

Rightly or wrongly, if Dyche walked into one of the top 10 EPL sides, he would get little respect from the players or fans. He wouldn’t last a month. He just wouldn’t be given the time regardless of his abilities.

Burnley’s only foreign (non home nation) players are Chris Wood (NZ), Erik Pieters (Dutch but ex-Stoke, so he’s as British as wonky teeth), Vydra (Hungarian and rarely starts) and Gudmundsson (Icelandic).

Dyche works brilliantly with British players. There’s nothing wrong with that. But put him in the Chelsea or Man City dressing room and Dyche would have no chance.

We will never know how good a manager Dyche is because he will never have the opportunity to show it.

Sounds like the ideal candidate for the England job   ;)

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

The great thing about Ipswich is its situation. It's equidistant between London and Norwich.

We can beat that. Aren't we more or less equidistant between London and Newcastle?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Sounds like the ideal candidate for the England job   ;)

I suspect he wouldn’t be given more than 6 months.

It could win a tournament, Greece 2004 style, but it would be pretty turgid and unpopular with the corporate prawn sandwiches.

It would be a classic Dyche 4-4-2:

                          Pope

Trippier  Tarkowski         Mee    Taylor

Ward-Prowse  Rice  Henderson  McNeil

                  Kane     Ings


It could work. But in Holloway’s words it would be the ugly girl at the end of the night.

Dwight McNeil's dad scored against us in 2007. Another one of those same time tomorrow.

Quoted from Abdul19

Dwight McNeil's dad scored against us in 2007. Another one of those same time tomorrow.

Getyourfactsout for the lads

Interesting fact...

3 points for a win was introduced in 1981/82. If all the previous top flight seasons were recalculated with 3 rather than 2 points for a win the only season where the champions would have been different was 1974/75. Derby were champions, but with 3 points for a win 3rd placed Ipswich would have been champions.

Also, Ipswich won the first division title in 1961/62 season in their first season in the top flight.

A few months ago I read comments on a fans site from an Ipswich fan.  He was worried about the poor quality of football in Division 1, after playing in the Championship.  

God forbid they ever find themselves in NL.    Plus no crowds, poor pitches, crappy grounds and appalling admin.

Everything in life is relative.  

Quoted from promotion plaice

Just shows you how our location holds us back when you look at how well Burnley are doing, population 73,021 (2001 Census)

Quite a good video made by a University student for her project on Burnley Football Club. Fans views and what it means to support Burnley.

[youtube]g5Su3Oesdrw[/youtube]

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Quite a good video made by a University student for her project on Burnley Football Club. Fans views and what it means to support Burnley.

[youtube]g5Su3Oesdrw[/youtube]

They won't need me to tell them, but I am sure this is one of the many things the consortium will be working on to show the club and the Grimsby area in its best light - professional promotional videos for prospective investors for example.

We obviously don't know the extent of their plans, but it will not include chugging along at the bottom of league 2 that is for sure.