McKeown, Hendrie, Pollock, Waterfall, Idehen, Preston, Morton, Taylor, Tilley, Windsor, Hanson.

Subs: Battersby, Mohsni, Rose, Spokes, Gibson, Green, Gomis.

Quoted from Davec

McKeown, Hendrie, Pollock, Waterfall, Idehen, Preston, Morton, Taylor, Tilley, Windsor, Hanson.

Subs: Battersby, Mohsni, Rose, Spokes, Gibson, Green, Gomis.

If that's the same shape we played against Cheltenham, we're going to get crucified in the middle of the park!

5-4-1/3-4-3

Not sure there’s enough bite in the middle but hope to be proven wrong.

Over 3.5 goals @ 23/10 looking tempting

New unofficial prediction lose 5-2 ??) Get a feeling FGR will simply waltz through the middle. But then who thought we would win a Cheltenham ??)

iFollow working fine for me tonight again  :)

Players on the pitch having a kick around at the minute.

Not liking the look of that middle 2 (assuming it's a 3 4 3)

He's obviously impressed with Idehen ,giving him a lot of game time.just wonder if he being 'groomed'  as a ready made replacement for Pollock if Pollock goes in January?

My current football enthusiasm level is close to how I imagine the atmosphere at the new lawn tonight, somewhere between dull and awful. Hoping for a surprise and a continuation of the general upsurge in away team successes but expectation is low
UTM

Wonder if we’ll be ever see Bilel

Come on Town.

For an opposition side well drilled and well versed in the passing game then its going to be hard work for us off the ball, just hope Morton and Tayor and Idehen dont tire as easily have they have done previously.
But if that's a top two then Windsor running off Hanson could be useful

Another tenner well spent...

Could be 2 - 0 down

Quoted from aldi_01

Another tenner well spent...

It's your own money, nobody is beating you over the head and making you pay to see the game  ;D

All over the place at the back here, giving them chances for fun. Very lucky not to be behind already.

Windsor fortunate not to get booked for a high foot, but the player did duck low

Not so bad so far me thinks  :)

Bloody hell, so negative, has Ipswin gained remote access to everyone’s computers?

1-0 Down >:(

Tilley didn’t track his man

They pretty much walked that one in. Didn't clear it and played a silly backpass that let them in the box for the opportunity.

They cut through us way too easily there

1-0 FGR

Tilley ballwatching.

Poor defending, Macca no chance with that one   :-/  

Macca could have done better there.  Got his hand to it, but not strong enough.

Disappointing from Town

Quoted from 123614

Macca could have done better there.  Got his hand to it, but not strong enough.

Yeah looked a weak hand to me  :-/

more backward throws!!!

Could easily have been two in two minutes

Need to settle down a while

Cut open like a hot knife in butter.
Poor defending. Lost the ball after playing it out of defence

Far too easy to cut through us!...too busy fannying about passing and getting nowhere in a hurry

They didn’t even have to try then...

Lots of chat in the last week about McKeown's supposed ability to bail us out with his saves, but he got a full hand on the shot for the goal and I think he should have done better with it. Can't really blame him mind, we shouldn't be letting them have free shots from the middle of the penalty area.

That's been coming, could Macca have done better ?

We look a shambles at the moment.

Tilley fast asleep for that goal

Who's in the 21 shirt??

Quoted from promotion plaice

We look a shambles at the moment.

But they’re obviously a well drilled side and are no mugs

We could be in for a hiding, midfield is all over the place.

Quoted from TAGG

Who's in the 21 shirt??

Tilley

Quoted from Morris Minor

Cut open like a hot knife in butter.
Poor defending. Lost the ball after playing it out of defence

Too many games where we urine about in defence.

12 yards out free shot at goal powerful, he done well to get a hand to it at all.     We are all over the place, midfield weak, wrong system

21 is Tilley

FFS get Rose on. Another goal and it's game over

Quoted from Abdul19

Tilley

Cheers mate
I know he's a young lad and looks good going forward but he's got to do his share of defending.

Too weak and inexperienced in the middle for a game against a good side like FGR. Rose and Clifton in there would make a big difference.

Quoted from ginnywings

Too weak and inexperienced in the middle for a game against a good side like FGR. Rose and Clifton in there would make a big difference.

Yeah but one is injured and one has just recovered from one. Shall we wheel Clifton out there and see if he can do a job for us?

Hansons won a lot up top but noones near him

Quoted from Kris2

Yeah but one is injured and one has just recovered from one. Shall we wheel Clifton out there and see if he can do a job for us?

Sorry Pep, it was just an observation.

None of the players know what they are supposed to be doing, that's not the first time we have said that this season

Quoted from Davec

None of the players know what they are supposed to be doing, that's not the first time we have said that this season

And I fear the ones who do know aren't good enough to actually do it

Quoted from Davec

None of the players know what they are supposed to be doing, that's not the first time we have said that this season

They seem to think we are shooting toward our own goal because that's where we want to get the ball and play good football.

We’ve waited weeks for Hanson but I’m not convinced we’re playing to his strengths

HT....FGR 1-0 Town.

A fair reflection of the game so far   :-/

Playing like this will result in tears. We will be fighting relegation all season.
At the moment we are grateful Oldham, Southend and Scunthorpe look worse than us

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Disappointing first half but we are still in it.

All it takes is just one minute

UTM

Quoted from Davec

None of the players know what they are supposed to be doing, that's not the first time we have said that this season

I'm not so sure you are right here.  I would suspect that they know what they are supposed to be doing, but there are 2 teams on the pitch, and the opposition will be just as keen to stop us from playing the way we have been asked to play.

Well I think we are fortunate to still be in it, hopefully turn it around second half 🙂

We are keeping possession well just need to actually do something with it when we have it. Feels like nobody really wants the ball up front or we just ping long balls in the hope somebody will get on the end of it.

No creativity in the middle of the park. Seems like we’re relying on big boots to hanson, or a spark from windsor or Tilley. Next goal vital

I’m not sure it’s as bad as people have made out. We’ve kept the ball extremely well and it’s a marked improvement on the past 2 games in that sense, we’ve lacked bite going forward but it’s far from a disaster. FGR had 2 good bits of play all half and scored from one, we’ve absolutely dominated possession against a possession based team.

Windsor and Tilley need to be smarter up top, I also don’t see the benefit of the extra CB tonight, we’d be better off with another body in the middle.

We need to find a way to play and quick. Like in the half time break. The last two and a half games have been poor.

One moment, one player switched off, and its cost us.  we are playing alot better than in the last two games for certain but no cutting edge.
Tilley and Windsor the only two players who can run at a player, the other 8 far to similar and playing safe.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

We’ve waited weeks for Hanson but I’m not convinced we’re playing to his strengths

Not sure Hanson has the mobility for this formation or any formation to be honest. His best days are past. Probably wouldn't get in any other League Two team's starting eleven. Look at him more as a last twenty minute chase the game target man nowadays. Never seen us play well with him up front. Personal preference would be subbing him off and getting more movement and pace on..

Quoted from Morris Minor

Playing like this will result in tears. We will be fighting relegation all season.
At the moment we are grateful Oldham, Southend and Scunthorpe look worse than us

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I’m not convinced we will be but it ain’t going to be pretty. IH has a big squad but in reality not a lot to choose from at the moment. Only 3 experienced outfield starters tonight.

I think we've done ok - just gave them too much time and space for the goal.  Need Tilley and Windsor closer to Hanson when we play it long.  Unfortunately we lack pace and feel if Edwards was fit, we'd be winning this.
Get one back and we could get two.  Let's hope. UTM

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’m not sure it’s as bad as people have made out. We’ve kept the ball extremely well and it’s a marked improvement on the past 2 games in that sense, we’ve lacked bite going forward but it’s far from a disaster. FGR had 2 good bits of play all half and scored from one, we’ve absolutely dominated possession against a possession based team.

Windsor and Tilley need to be smarter up top, I also don’t see the benefit of the extra CB tonight, we’d be better off with another body in the middle.

Agree with this. If this game had come immediately after the two wins I don’t think there’d be the negativity we’re seeing on here and elsewhere tonight.

Absolute sh1te 45 mins. We have a middle of U23 prem kids who think like Wilkins pass it back or sideways as cant cope when closed down, They are behind the pace of the game, Taylor especially, number of times someone has made a run and been ignored is amazing. 7 times we had the ball wide about 20 yards out and passed it all the way to the half way line and 5 of those times it ended up within 20 yards of our own goal. You dont score goals if you kick in the same direction as the opposition.
Refs a homer, Tilly hasn't a clue how to defend or follow a runner, and Pollock isn't good enough to go charging up the pitch with the ball unfortuneately. Hanson has only once got it to one of our own players and we are incapable of passing a ball accurately more than 10 yards and even then its a lottery. Rant over lets hope Ollie sorts it. >:(

Idehen passing straight forward to Hanson marked by two defenders because there are no channel runners. Windsor could switch with Hanson more to pull defenders around. Morton needs to move the ball quicker to get their defenders turning. All their players able to play facing our goal due to our glacial decision making. Best chance of a goal is to catch their keeper off his line or force an own goal. Tilley having to come too deep because our transition is non existent. 442 please, sub Idehen for Gomis.

missing cliftons energy

In the first half we had 67% possession, 282 passes which was exactly double the number of FGR passes, pass accuracy of 78% but not a single shot on target.

Hanson looks to be way off the game to me, could do with Gibson or Gomis on for him.

Wow what a miss

and edwards

It’s written in the stars Macca gets us a point with a 94th minute from a corner.

Seriously they’ll be thinking it’s quite easy. Far too often we’re looking like what we are, a development squad.

What a miss

Macca saves us......  ;)

Good save by Macca

Or does anyone think that was straightforward and he should have made it no matter what?

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Good save by Macca

Or does anyone think that was straightforward and he should have made it no matter what?

Yep, it was straight at him, one he should save.

Mansfield losing at home to Barrow now and down to ten men.

And we think we have had an indifferent start to the season.

these are the stats off Flash scores  ours being the bottom off each item .....doesnt look so bad


32%
Ball possession
68%
5
Goal attempts
3
2
Shots on goal
1
1
Shots off goal
1
2
Blocked Shots
1
3
Corner kicks
0
2
Offsides
2
1
Goalkeeper saves
1
7
Fouls
6
1
Yellow cards
0
180
Total Passes
348
10
Tackles
9
68
Attacks
57
17
Dangerous Attacks
22

and Tranmere have started to well either currently being thumped 4-0 by Crawley

Quoted from 123614

Yep, it was straight at him, one he should save.

You’re probably right but vital that he made the save

Even better was that they didn’t capitalise on the rebound

This is really poor

Green coming on now. Watch the FGR defence panic! lol

Quoted from Hagrid

This is really poor

Is it though? Still in the game, both sides played football. They took their chance and we didn't.

Yes. It is. We havent created a thing.

We haven't made any!

Edwards is a big miss for us tonight.

Quoted from Kris2

Is it though? Still in the game, both sides played football. They took their chance and we didn't.

You are correct, providing that you’re watching on teletext but in reality all we’re doing is giving them the ball back when it goes over the half way line.

Jamile Matt hasn't been very effective tonight.

I hope he proves me wrong but Montel Gibson is a million miles from being a football league player

Quoted from pontoonlew

I hope he proves me wrong but Montel Gibson is a million miles from being a football league player

I don’t think he’s the only one at the moment.

Gibson, so far, as people have said looks nothing like a professional footballer, but then again, Gomis doesn’t either...

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I don’t think he’s the only one at the moment.

I think you can add Gomis to that too

Easy night for their keeper so far tonight   :-/

Come on Town 2 goals in the last few mins to win it......(wine)

Green, Gibson and Gomis is a forward line that reminds me of relegation.

Ah, as I said before feel bad for Gibson as he'll become a scapegoat very quickly even though he's played a handful of games at this level. Gomis even less so but people hated him from the start because of his wikipedia stats aren't a 20 goal a season striker.

Can't wait for all the moaning if we don't find a goal.

WTF was that, he should be shot for that free kick completely unacceptable

We’ve looked better last 15

Noone hates a player, we arent 5.        Oh what a wonderful free kick again

Morton and Gibson are not league players.

Shocking free kick by Morton FFS

Anyone know if Fat Toni's Pizzeria's any good?

Haven’t read the whole thread but James Hanson was shockingly bad. His body just isn’t up to it anymore.

Quoted from Abdul19

Anyone know if Fat Toni's Pizzeria's any good?

4.2 out of 5 on Google Maps

Quoted from promotion plaice

Shocking free kick by Morton FFS

Followed by an equally poor corner by Tilley and Taylor, far too wasteful in possession again.

Quoted from Abdul19

Anyone know if Fat Toni's Pizzeria's any good?

And are they only vegetarian?  :) :)

Amond wins it for Newport

Oh for a goalscorer now!

Shameful cowardice from Taylor trying to steal a penalty with a pathetic dive. Gutless

All the falling down they’ve done all game to “earn” free-kicks and Taylor goes down in their box and gets booked for diving

Well, we gave it a good go. Can’t fault the effort, just lacking in quality with the final pass or cross. Set pieces have been absolutely dire.

FT 1-0

Just wasn’t to be. 🙄

FT........FGR 1-0 Town.

Plenty of possession by us but toothless.

Thank goodness that's over I wonder what Holloway is going to say tonight, he must be running out of plausible excuses

Its plain that a number of his signings are just not up to it and the sooner he accepts that the better. We are tootless up front and he may as well try the young non league strikers who haven't had a look in yet.

Nothing in the middle. Their player Whitehouse looked good.

Dave Smith has just said “there’s some positives to take from this” clearly he’s seen something nobody else has.

Think we'd do better getting Sissay back...we are woeful up front...AGAIN!...what is it recently with Town having crud forwards...7 on the books and not can hit a cows backside with a banjo!...in all honesty I thought we played some good stuff, Preston needs a rest and we do miss Edwards...

Thought the back four looked decent, after that I'm struggling and we didn't really look like scoring.

Well.......real lack of attacking quality there.  Useless going forward.
All that possession turned into just 1 or 2 half chances.

Well i thought that was dire. Midfield weak and create nothing. Set Pieces are awful, which has been a problem for years. And a frontline- bar windsor- who all seem as bad as each other

Agree we are ok at the back just need somebody to find the back of their net .

On a regular basis.  :-/

Settled back 5 in the most part and any six from about 18 players for the rest of the team every game. This won’t help our attacking play cause there’s no understanding built.

No threat at all. Plenty of possession but no end product.That’s all really

All you have to do is score once against us and you can then concentrate on defending

Defense looks fairly solid but plenty for Ollie to work on with midfield and attacking options. Plenty of effort but I’m afraid Gibson and Morton nowhere near league two level.

It must be fake news that Amond scored a last minute winner for the league leaders.

Surely, he is not good enough for the EFL?  Wonder if he would fit in here?

Direfookingbollicalthewholeteam except back 4. I don't know why we only played with 10 men - I thought Morton was supposed to be in the line up.

No one driving forward in midfield carrying the ball.  We miss Edwards pace and trickery.  We can get a lot better im sure.

No threat at all. Plenty of possession but no end product.That’s all really

Quoted from Hagrid

Well i thought that was dire. Midfield weak and create nothing. Set Pieces are awful, which has been a problem for years. And a frontline- bar windsor- who all seem as bad as each other

When you can't even take a short corner successfully you know you are in trouble  ....that ....and the  free kick that just sailed right over the bar when all the big lads are up....

Not been overly impressed with Gomis so far, the little I've seen of him.

Another 45 of Sh1te, total 97 mins less the 20 FGR used up time wasting (ref finally books one of them for it when it has no effect at 93 mins) and not one decent save required by their keeper we didn't even miss a sitter either. Looked a bit better with 442 but other than the back 4  who seem far more solid playing as a 4, and Macca the odd touch from Gomis. The rest  I wouldnt put on the pitch again before Christmas.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Get some experienced professionals in.

Oh well another game gone and we look like a non league  outfit. Too many inexperianced  and young not ready for first team players have been got through the gates. Thought they did better last 15 / 20 mins but no fire power in any of them .Looks like a squad put together to just see us through untill he plug is pulled on this season

Not sure what people are expecting from a team of strangers to be honest. I’ve had the misfortune of joining the praise or grumble facebook page and bloody hell it makes the fishy look measured. Grown men slagging off players who’ve recently made their league debut. We’re clearly trying to play the right way with a young team and better decision making in the final 3rd will take time. The main frustration for me is that we’ve conceded to a basic error again. IMO not tracking your man is as basic an error as Macca’s on Saturday

Just before the usual meltdown a little perspective from the Forest Greeen forum

"Wow, That was a real 'backs to the  wall grind out a result graft' for 3 points., Unusual to see us pegged back again and again and with the least posession.Holloway plays a wild game...Mariners dirsupted our style well,.Reduced us to .long balls, often  coming staright  back at us...but hey a truly mature result".

They call that backs to the wall, are there another 8 teams they've played worst than us?

Part of me thinks the injuries, lack of match fitness, burn out etc..etc.. has tied Ollie’s hands part of me thinks he’s making some wrong calls in terms of shape and what selection options he has.

He’s forgotten more than I’ll ever know in 2 lifetimes but I can’t help thinking a settled shape with as many as possible given a straight run of 3/4 games in a row would help.

Players trying their hardest though and in some cases maybe trying a bit too hard and over complicating things in what should be simple scenarios and opportunities.

We are solid at the back, which just happens to be where all our experienced players are.

We now need to get some experience into midfield and forward areas. Scannell, Bennett, Clifton and Rose fit and firing would make a big difference to us. Williams too if he can regain the form he had before his injury. Edwards is also a big miss.

Not great at the moment, but not the disaster some are saying. Think we will get better as the season progresses.

FGR are no mugs either. They are a tough nut to crack.

Was anyone else watching that game but thinking "we just ain't gonna score"  :o

If we can get Clifton Rose and Edwards fit for Saturday we might get a result at Stevenage ..

Some of the players are not of the required standard, and given what Ive seen, Im not sure what Holloway was thinking. Its as though clubs rang him up and offered him players, and he hasnt batted an eye-lid.

Of the others most are inconsistent, and that middle is as weak as urine.  We aint  going anywhere Im afraid, and a long hard season is only a handful of games in.

No need for any management changes, we have enough to survive, but if it hasnt improved 3 months into next season, then the game is up for Bingo Bob.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If we can get Clifton Rose and Edwards fit for Saturday we might get a result at Stevenage ..

where of course our record is outstanding, but i admire your optimism.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

They call that backs to the wall, are there another 8 teams they've played worst than us?

You see what you want to see. First time they havent been able to have the lions share of possession as is there game. Pinned back (there words) and whilst we were poor in our final third we did control the majority of the game. Like i say  you see what you want to see.

Been said by others really. Looking solid enough defensively although we play ourselves into trouble at times for me. Also It's no use having the ball over the half way line and 'keeping possession' by passing back to the keeper via two or three town players for it then to be booted forward. In that case you may as well try something from the midfield point when it's an outfield player kicking the baĺl and he's closer to where he wants to pass it. Also less chance of a costly defensive clanger.

Taylor and morton are similar players, amd neither are as good as clifton, albeit perhaps tidier when passing it short. They are nowhere near as energetic or positive as him. So a midfield 2 of them is going to be not strong enough in getting po ssesion and nowhere near even close to creative enough. However they may be able to keep possession better in meaningless areas to inflate our possesion stats to no game effect.

Windsor has looked good, Tilley has mostly flattered to deceive not actually producing the goods despite odd flashes and nearly moments. Edwards looks pacey and skilful but raw and his decision making looks suspect but understandable as he is young. Hanson does look a reduced player but he is coming back from an awful long layoff. I don't think we are playing to his strengths tho of players running towards him for lay offs. Gomis hasn't caught the eye in his appearances. Gibson looks like he has some useful attributes but his decision making and technique don't look great for this level. We haven't seen Max Wright yet this season, hopefully he will continue his development that he has shown last season.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

You see what you want to see. First time they havent been able to have the lions share of possession as is there game. Pinned back (there words) and whilst we were poor in our final third we did control the majority of the game. Like i say  you see what you want to see.

We didn't control anything in that game including the ball. They pressed us till they scored then sat back and left us to p 1ss about with the ball in our own half for 60 mins.

Saw enough in the Cheltenham and Orient games not to write off the season for some footy fix entertainment, albeit we won't be troubling the top seven. Recruitment and League Two learning curve this season for IH. A few key players back (Rose, Edwards, Williams, Scannell and Clifton), a more settled side with Windsor as the main striker not Hanson, a little bit of belief and confidence and we'll be ok.. Tough watch the past few games though..

Quoted from Madeleymariner

We didn't control anything in that game including the ball. They pressed us till they scored then sat back and left us to p 1ss about with the ball in our own half for 60 mins.

Yes I am sure that was there intention. Could almost see Coopers instruction "Let them urine about with it". You almost make me miss "sonofs" match analysis!!

Just really naive in the opposition half, and it’s not just this season we’ve lacked the ‘professionalism’ of other clubs.

Lost count of how many attacks died after we committed daft fouls on full-backs facing their own goal. People can complain about weak refs, the oppo falling over or timewasting as much as they like - and they seem to every week - but I can’t remember the last time I saw a town team slow the game down to the pace we want to play at, or be a bit cute and take the sting out of the opposition.

Waterfall needs to be captain on Sat.

Worrying

I’d say as a positive, Gomis looked tricky when he came on. Gibson still looks quite naive, so I’d probably go with Windsor and Gomis on Saturday. We could really do with a win at Stevenage.

The worrying thing is, where on Earth are Rose, Scannell and Mohsni?! 3 experienced pros and it doesn’t appear they can be relied upon. Very disappointing.

Need Rose & Clifton in midfield every game

Quoted from chipsandgravy

You see what you want to see. First time they havent been able to have the lions share of possession as is there game. Pinned back (there words) and whilst we were poor in our final third we did control the majority of the game. Like i say  you see what you want to see.

We could have had 99% possession and we still couldn't score.

Possession means intercourse all if you don't score and you concede daft goals.

Quoted from TAGG

Need Rose & Clifton in midfield every game

I do wonder about this big love in for Rose.

I don't think he is anywhere near fit, has he played a full game yet?

Didn’t think it was as bad as all that.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Didn’t think it was as bad as all that.

Couldn't you get ifollow to work  :)

with regard to ifollow why does it flash up that a team has scored 1 minute before it happens on the screen? very annoying

How good were FGR, and what impression has Whitehouse made? The stats look pretty favourable in terms of possession 36%-64% .... I ask this as we've got them in the FA Cup and will be looking to rest a few and play a few eager fringe players?

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Yes I am sure that was there intention. Could almost see Coopers instruction "Let them urine about with it". You almost make me miss "sonofs" match analysis!!

Excellent   :)

Quoted from NorfolkImp

How good were FGR, and what impression has Whitehouse made? The stats look pretty favourable in terms of possession 36%-64% .... I ask this as we've got them in the FA Cup and will be looking to rest a few and play a few eager fringe players?

Hard to say. The teams pretty much cancelled each other out for most of the game. They made a couple of threatening moves but not much. Slightly better than us.

Whitehouse looked like he did for the majority of last season. See Morton and Taylor.

I'm not panicking after that. We weren't great, but Village Green are a decent side and we were better than them for big chunks.

We lack creativity and our midfield was lightweight.

I think fans on here want instant success with a team of young players that have been thrown together. It is no coincidence that the teams currently at the top are the ones that have been together as a unit with fewer changes. I like what IH is trying to do, playing football from the back, but we have had years of goofball, and the whole team bunched up on the halfway line for goal kicks etc and it's going to take time. I am old enough to remember Alan Buckley first coming here, with his brand of exciting football.  It didn't work overnight and there were similar calls for him to go after the first few games. Luckily we stayed with him and the rest as they say is history.

On another note, it was the best quality picture I have had yet on I Follow. I also listened to the home commentary. What a breath of fresh air it was, commentators actually commentating as they use to, concentrating on the game and not waffling on about everything and nothing. They were very good.  They were very complimentary about how we set up to go at them, instead of sitting back like most other teams. They were very fair in their assessment that FGR were hanging on in the end and we could have nicked a point.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

I'm not panicking after that. We weren't great, but Village Green are a decent side and we were better than them for big chunks.

We lack creativity and our midfield was lightweight.

We've played 5 of the top 10 and the only team that was really better than us was Harrogate. I suppose you could say Salford based on the result, but that was a bit of a freak result really.

Don't think you can have two thirds of the possession if your midfield is weak. Agree about creativity though. I thought Gomis looked good when he came on, lively with a turn of pace.

We lacked ideas in the final third, but our general play was ok...i was pretty impressed with our passing to be fair. Hopefully we'll come good with a settled attack once everyone is up to speed.

People are going a bit OTT about the loss, but that's football.

Quoted from mimma

I think fans on here want instant success with a team of young players that have been thrown together. It is no coincidence that the teams currently at the top are the ones that have been together as a unit with fewer changes. I like what IH is trying to do, playing football from the back, but we have had years of goofball, and the whole team bunched up on the halfway line for goal kicks etc and it's going to take time. I am old enough to remember Alan Buckley first coming here, with his brand of exciting football.  It didn't work overnight and there were similar calls for him to go after the first few games. Luckily we stayed with him and the rest as they say is history.

On another note, it was the best quality picture I have had yet on I Follow. I also listened to the home commentary. What a breath of fresh air it was, commentators actually commentating as they use to, concentrating on the game and not waffling on about everything and nothing. They were very good.  They were very complimentary about how we set up to go at them, instead of sitting back like most other teams. They were very fair in their assessment that FGR were hanging on in the end and we could have nicked a point.

Although I agree broadly with what you say, we as fans have waited years and years for "instant success". We seem to be in a perpetual state of building for next season. New managers, new players, new styles of play are a constant way of life at BP.

We always seem to be behind the curve and struggling to make an impact on the top half of the league. We have been mostly patient and loyal as a fan base I think.


Hoping Ollie is the one to change all that and I do think we will get better as the season progresses.

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Although I agree broadly with what you say, we as fans have waited years and years for "instant success". We seem to be in a perpetual state of building for next season. New managers, new players, new styles of play are a constant way of life at BP.

We always seem to be behind the curve and struggling to make an impact on the top half of the league. We have been mostly patient and loyal as a fan base I think.


Hoping Ollie is the one to change all that and I do think we will get better as the season progresses.

Yes agree. Although I do get annoyed at the constant "he must go" brigade who want instant success I do also think we have been patient. Particuarly with the merry go round of managers and players and all the cliches that go with it.

This season is like no other. Ordinary life is like no other. We cannot judge it like other seasons so from my point of view it's a free pass. I dont think for one minute Ollie would have had four loaned Under 23 players in his team/squad if things had been "normal". Given the age of some of those I dont think Tuesday was as bad as some people were making out. I am actually enjoying seeing some of the young players in our team and yes some need to improve and have more belief but after Tuesday I believe there at least giving there all. We have some decent players to come back in as well. I think we can improve and with all the players we have there I am sure there is a good team in there - we just haven't quite seen it yet!

We got a glimpses of it away at Cheltenham and Orient, but injuries and changes has hampered the progress.