This afternoon's #GTFC starting XI: McKeown, Hendrie, Pollock, Waterfall, Preston, Clifton, Morton, Taylor, Tilley, Williams, Windsor.

Subs: Battersby, Mohsni, Idehen, Starbuck, Green, Gomis, Hanson.

HT Exeter 2-0 Scunts (several scunt players self isolating)

Hope we are not putting Clifton out wide again

Quoted from Meza

HT Exeter 2-0 Scunts (several scunt players self isolating)

Now 2-1.....come on you Grecians

Quoted from promotion plaice

This afternoon's #GTFC starting XI: McKeown, Hendrie, Pollock, Waterfall, Preston, Clifton, Morton, Taylor, Tilley, Williams, Windsor.

Subs: Battersby, Mohsni, Idehen, Starbuck, Green, Gomis, Hanson.

That midfield pairing looks weak. Neither player has impressed me yet. We need Rose back in the middle is he injured?

Quoted from promotion plaice

This afternoon's #GTFC starting XI: McKeown, Hendrie, Pollock, Waterfall, Preston, Clifton, Morton, Taylor, Tilley, Williams, Windsor.

Subs: Battersby, Mohsni, Idehen, Starbuck, Green, Gomis, Hanson.

Think Danny Rose is a big miss in that team in midfield, guess he's injured.

How many players do we have . and we cannot put a decent  midfield out . But football being how it is at the moment we will prob cruise it   ;)  And i realy dont think football will go on much longer the way teams and players are going down

Anyone's match pass not working?

Just doesn't want to process it on the lap top or i pad.

Scunny having players self-isolating is no excuse - even playing away.

Shaktar had 10 players with Covid and still won at Real Madrid.

Alkmaar also lost about the same number of players and still won away to Napoli.

No Rose, Gibson or Edwards in the 18. Least we have Hanson and Gomis to call upon from the bench if plan A aint working.

Cmon you mariners

Just to brighten our day up they've put the Scunny commentary on   ;D

Maybe Rose in for Morton or Taylor, and Edwards, Scannell or Gomis running the wings and we would very nearly have the first choice team on the pitch.

Latest.....Exeter 3-1 Scunny   8)

Quite windy out today, going to make the game interesting in how both teams will go about things

Scunny losing 3-1 now......get in !

The ref decides to not award us a penalty and send their player off so as to not ruin the game   :-/

Quoted from promotion plaice

The ref decides to not award us a penalty and send their player off so as to not ruin the game   :-/

We've been lucky with some bad referee decisions recently so maybe we were due to be screwed out of a penalty

Looked blatant!! Ref missed several fouls so far!!

Why is Williams up front when we have a poor central midfield?

3 unnecessary fouls in five minutes.  Why?

Town need to get the ball in the danger area as much as possible.  Carlisle are well panicky in their box.  Did Clifton also get pulled back then?

Get in there Mattie!

Get in....Pollock

1-0 Town, Pollock

Pollock left footed on the half volley what a goal

Get in!

Well taken routine. That style of corner really doesn't look like it should work but we've got 2 goals from it now, it's almost deceiving for the defenders as it looks easy.

Now stop the back passing especially from our free kicks! play to Tilley and Windsors feet. Clifton trying to do too much.

We are giving away too many silly free kicks.

Once again far too many silly free kicks

Refs missing some clear fouls on us

Before long, they will punish us for these free kicks.

Morton , William's,  Taylor pretty much passengers for me

I'm so glad there set pieces are rubbish.  

Terrible watch! 18 players facing our goal, no composure and zero communication. Stop blaming the wind.

This ref is awful

I wonder if JT will be able to construct a sentence without the word 'wind' in it!

Quoted from horsforthmariner

This ref is awful

Aren't they all.

HT....Town 1-0 Carlisle   :)

He also needs glasses ‘Waterfall off the line!’ It was no where near the line.....

Quoted from 123614

I wonder if JT will be able to construct a sentence without the word 'wind' in it!

Don't wind him up.

(coolp) ^^

Quoted from promotion plaice

Aren't they all.

HT....Town 1-0 Carlisle   :)

We usually leave the complaints about the referee to fall back on when we lose

Taylor impressing in the middle. Cliftons knock not helping.

Inviting a lot of pressure with fouls and misplaced passes. We should be far more composed in possession with a lead, just need to calm down and think about what they are doing. Another garbage set of officials, I don't think I've seen a good one this season that looks in any way qualified to do this. Being kicked all over the park again, wouldn't be surprised if we see more injuries. Carlisle don't look up to much going forward but if we give them enough chances they'll take one eventually, very shaky at the back if we can get balls in there more.

Poor game really but we’re winning at least.

We’re missing Edwards and his ability to get us up the pitch, Preston looks a lesser player without him on the pitch.

Ref is shite

Sounds like Clifton might have to come off...not sure how with the size of our squad we've not managed to name one centre mid player on the bench!

Going to have to play a lot better than that second half if we're going to get anything out of the game. Carlisle pressing extremely well and we're giving unnecessary free kicks at will. And why do we keep trying to play football like that at the back? Definitely going to come a cropper with that sometime.

Just as poor a performance as Tuesday really but against poorer opposition , playing ourselves into trouble, only constructive play is down the right, centre of the park is pretty much a no man's land for us with or without the ball.

Quoted from moosey_club

Just as poor a performance as Tuesday really but against poorer opposition , playing ourselves into trouble, only constructive play is down the right, centre of the park is pretty much a no man's land for us with or without the ball.

"Poorer opposition"? The've been on a 4 match unbeaten run!

Lucky to go in 1 - 0 up, we've given away far too many free kicks around the box as usual and also played our way into trouble on more than one occasion. If it carries on like this Carlisle will surely equalise even tho they haven't appeared to carry much threat.

Hopefully our performance will improve second half cos if we are tighter at the back Carlisle will probably struggle to score.

If Clifton has to be subbed play Williams deeper and bring Gomis on. Need a much better  half from Hendrie in terms of setting a standard.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

"Poorer opposition"? The've been on a 4 match unbeaten run!

In comparison to Harrogate I meant, thought they were impressive on Tuesday and made us second best,  whereas today I think we look as equally inept without the help

Is EDwards injured? How can he not be on the pitch if he isn't

FFS, Macca messes up again!  It's time he had some competition.

It’s every week now

flipping hell here we go again

Oh for god’s sake

Shocker.  Get it going forward.  Now, we are under pressure,

FFS!!

Every season Macca has a period where it seems his guaranteed selection works against us.

Wow

What did I just say?
Bloody idiot!

When it comes to actually playing football Macca is a bit of a liability, a good shot stopper but his feet are awful.

What the intercourse was that. Too much fannying around at the back

Time to get some co.petition for Mckeown. Too many mistakes now, he needs challenging for the number 1 shirt

Mckeown needs some competition ASAP

Was actually missing the goal until he kicked it in!

Sorry, but we need a quality back up keeper. Maccas got no pressure on him and that's 2 complete f@ck ups in consecutive games now!!..

Almost all our problems are self inflicted
Sloppy passing
Bad decisions
It's fecking annoying!

Please Mr Holloway get a new keeper, anyone will do, give the young lad a chance just give Macca a (very long) rest

If it wasn't so awful it would be hilarious, comedy keeper!

I'm just shocked ai mean wow

Macca has been an accident waiting to happen all season for me, and now he’s cost us two goals in a week.

That's 3 goals to the opposition by our little friend McKeown in the last 2 games!
What a joke!
Get rid for goodness sake.
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How to ruin ones Saturday afternoon......

Horrendous error but the overreaction is quite comical.

Macca is a great lad
Great shotstopper
But one of the worst distributors of a ball I've ever seen from a GK

Ffs   where has maccas concentration gone  another shot in the foot

that is probably 2 of the worst keeper errors I’ve seen in a while all in one week....

Are we allowed to criticise macca on here ? Well do you know what I couldn’t give her toss it’s time somebody new was brought in and quick

Tilly off Hanson on .... not exactly like for like.

Get rid give over. It was a shocker to be fair that is two shocking mistakes in  a week but get rid??

Don't forget he saved a nail on goal about 10 min after that mix up against Harrogate.

McKeown putting his Christmas Goalkeeping Nightmares DVD together in games this week isn’t ideal.

Quoted from Stadium

Horrendous error but the overreaction is quite comical.

Everyone is laughing at him thats the only comical bit

Maccas loyalty and service to the club had been outstanding but no player is bigger than the club and on performances he deserves to be dropped

to many mistakes from  flapper, need new keeper pronto.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Tilly off Hanson on .... not exactly like for like.

Hanson on for Macca would be better. He's a big fella, wouldn't have to run about a lot which would suit him and he can't be any worse

Deano can't get in United's team at the mo.
Can't get him on loan because Macca will want to leave. lol

Dont think Olley will put up with these consant mistakes from Macca and will look to bring someone in

Putting the mare aside we could still win this, come on Town.

Macca would only spit his dummy out if Ollie did bring in another keeper. He is losing concentration too often in matches.

Our dead ball situations are poor and have been more often than not for years.

Town not playing well TBH.

Dont care if he does spit his dummy out , If he is half a man he will put his hans up and say my mistake and am not suprised if someone comes on and takes his place

Why not Gomis? No pace on the pitch now.

Quoted from gtfc82

Macca would only spit his dummy out if Ollie did bring in another keeper. He is losing concentration too often in matches.

Time for him to go I reckon, we need consistent solid performances not just the occasional world class save interspersed between horrendous errors

Crofty is bang on I don’t think anyone has a clue what we’re trying to do.

It’s not concentration, he can’t play with his feat and his decision making is way off now

Unfortunately I missed the first 25 minutes (?!!), but in the time I have been watching, town have done nothing. At all.

Quoted from Ipswin

Time for him to go I reckon, we need consistent solid performances not just the occasional world class save interspersed between horrendous errors

I take it you mean dropped, he's contracted until May 2022 Swin.

Carlisle are awful at defending set pieces.  Why can't we captilize?  Back to basics lads.  

Quoted from promotion plaice

I take it you mean dropped, he's contracted until May 2022 Swin.

I meant go, retire, run off and hide under the bed anything, his time is up. If he's dropped he'll sulk and be back in again in a week. He thinks the keepers jersey is his forever, too comfy, taking it for granted

Quoted from oochiad

It’s not concentration, he can’t play with his feat and his decision making is way off now

I have been saying for a couple of seasons that Macca was excellent when we were non-league but only average for a league 2 team and if we had ambitions to get promoted then we needed better . His basic flaws are still there - haphazard distribution and poor in the air.

We are a League 2 side with League 2 players. They will make mistakes; goes with the territory.

Kepa cost Chelsea 70 million and he's made more mistakes than Macca.

Amond scores, Dembele scores and Toto gives away a penno, some interesting stuff going on somewhere today shame about the offering at BP

Wind is definitely not helping but our passing has been poor this half, and we're just just not creating any chances!! I can see them nicking this.
In other news, Dembele puts Peterborough in front against Hull.

My 12 year old keeper made a mistake today . Most parents / supporters think a keeper can't make a mistake .

Quoted from ginnywings

We are a League 2 side with League 2 players. They will make mistakes; goes with the territory.

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At the moment it doesn't appear we have a league 2 goalkeeper although he could be seen as entertaining I suppose

Why Green ahead of Gomis?

Game getting more open now.

Gaurdiola at Man City says a keeper usually only has to make 2/3 saves a game, thats why his keeper is excellent with his feet, even Arteta at Arsenal said there was no point in closing him down as he is a better footballer then most other players, so as Macca has 2 left feet then whilst we ask him to play the ball out he is an accident waiting to happen, as demonstrated last 2 games.

Town's performance as pathetic as the cardboard cut out crowd.

Quoted from It Bites

My 12 year old keeper made a mistake today . Most parents / supporters think a keeper can't make a mistake .

Of course keepers can make mistakes,they all do . The difference with Macca is that his mistakes are so amateurish , unforced and the basic things that should never happen. The goal he "gifted" the other night was a prime example of his poor decision making.

Come on lads get a late winner and get Macca out of jail.

FFS just get it in the box.

Today is going to really f*** Holloway up. Macca's selection was the only one he had made his mind up about now he has to mess about with all 11 not just 10

Quoted from ginnywings

We are a League 2 side with League 2 players. They will make mistakes; goes with the territory.

Kepa cost Chelsea 70 million and he's made more mistakes than Macca.

Can’t excuse two complete howlers in two games.

I've lost count of how many times we've had the ball in a good position only to end up passing out back to Macca!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Can’t excuse two complete howlers in two games.

He's the only Town player who's consistent ;)

What is the point in Matt Green

Quoted from gtfc82

I've lost count of how many times we've had the ball in a good position only to end up passing out back to Macca!

Lack of movement and any good pass to pick is kind of the problem. We get stuck going back or we give the ball away.

Quoted from Chrisblor

What is the point in Matt Green

When 'goal machine Gomis' is on the bench you mean? ;)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Can’t excuse two complete howlers in two games.

Not excusing it, but it happens. De Gea and Kepa, two of the world's best have been making mistakes galore recently. No hiding place for keepers.

The Cheltenham keeper threw one in against us recently.

Quoted from Ipswin

He's the only Town player who's consistent ;)

Love it dont you!

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Love it dont you!

You enjoyed our performance today then? Macca your MOM was he?

It’s the same keeper who produced a worldie against orient to give us the win. The nature of the beast. Sometimes they are the hero, sometimes the villain!

We would have ground out a good win today under difficult conditions.....

Quoted from Chrisblor

What is the point in Matt Green

His hold up play is pretty good. He takes it on the chest very well. He just needs a goal.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Love it dont you!

I don't know about Ipswin but I don't love the fact that Macca could have cost us 2 points but maybe you are.

Zero quality, zero cohesion, anonymous midfield.
1 decent attempt at goal.

Macca dropped another knacker

I get that he pulls out worldies but his mistakes are so basic it really isn’t good enough....

A very poor quality game. I don’t think Carlisle would’ve scored unless we gifted them a goal and we didn’t look as if we were going to score another.

Everyone is going to focus on the goalkeeper mistake but I think the game could have been won with some more quality in the attacking half of the pitch. Set pieces lacking, we still can't take a throw in that isn't obvious as nobody does anything to give a real option. Some quality free kicks would have won us goals. Windsor is a strong lad who wants the ball but at times probably got in the way or spent too long messing about with it. We want him on the end of chances we create but often the one trying to create the chance or track back to defend when we need him as somebody to get the ball to on a counter attack. Kind of a Bogle at times that wants to do everything himself when he gets frustrated.

FT......1-1

What's the odds on a Macca thread tonight   ;)

We are just very careless with the ball from 1 to 11 evidently.

A draw was a fair result as both teams where bang average.

Macca has always earned us more points than cost us. He put his hand up straight away and I’m sure his first words when he got into the changing room were I’m sorry.

Quoted from ginnywings

Not excusing it, but it happens. De Gea and Kepa, two of the world's best have been making mistakes galore recently. No hiding place for keepers.

The Cheltenham keeper threw one in against us recently.

There’s keepers who’ve played for us who would have been slaughtered for that

Quoted from Ipswin

You enjoyed our performance today then? Macca your MOM was he?

If I ever thought you gave balanced views I may agree with you. You are driven only by your cynical nature - its exhausting and sad.

Well, we didn't lose and have another point in the bag. Not much else to get excited about that performance.

They weren't much better and are in a play off spot.

Williams was appaling. His passing and set pieces were sunday league standard. Not convinced. At all

Exactly, they weren’t much better than us yet we gifted them a point....

Quoted from Posh Harry

It’s the same keeper who produced a worldie against orient to give us the win. The nature of the beast. Sometimes they are the hero, sometimes the villain!

Worldies are one thing but basic errors are different. You don't expect a goalie to pull off a wonder save but  when he does it's great .You do ,however , expect him to do his " bread and butter " work without errors . It's the same with an outfield player. It's great when he can ping a 50 yard pass to a players feet but if he consistently  can't execute a 5 yard pass then he becomes a liability.

No other team so far has been worse at passing, free kicks, throw ins, goal kicks, corners, goalie howlers, conceding free kicks and on field leadership. So many issues which are systemic to our set up whichever eleven takes the field. Plusses? plenty of effort at times and more minutes for Hanson.

Edit: MOM- Waterfall.

Fair result. Game lacking quality in difficult conditions. Will be remembered for the OG and not much else.

The result feels more like a loss especially as we gifted them a point. Do like Macca but needs some competition for the #1 spot

Pollock was deffo the better Town player this afternoon

Quoted from Croxton

No other team so far has been worse at passing, free kicks, throw ins, goal kicks, corners, goalie howlers, conceding free kicks and on field leadership. So many issues which are systemic to our set up whichever eleven takes the field. Plusses? plenty of effort at times and more minutes for Hanson.

Scunny.  ;)

There really are some girl privates on this board.

This is no reflection on Maccas performance but we need a captain and leader in an outfield position. Who though is a question only Ollie can answer. I've never liked goalkeeper captains as I don't think they are in a position to inspire , read a game and help drive players on.

Quoted from Henryscat

There really are some girl privates on this board.

Answers on a postcard to GrimRob c/o The Fishy, Grimsby. Hi

A game of poor quality highlighted by an awful error
A game played in unhelpful conditions
A point gained
Move on

Quoted from ginnywings

Scunny.  ;)

I meant our opponents so far. We appear to find the basics so difficult at times.

Quoted from Henryscat

There really are some girl privates on this board.

If you mean me then you must think Crofty is a girl private too?

Wasteful I think is the best way to describe the game. We were absolutely awful from set pieces aside from the one half decent one that resulted in the goal.

Hope the injuries to Clifton and Tilley aren't too serious.

Morton and Taylor were pretty anonymous, nothing terrible but nothing too brilliant either.

Williams was pretty terrible today. Just wasn't in great positions to get the ball and when he did his passing and set pieces weren't up to scratch.

When Green came on we looked much more threatening on the left with his hold up play being a particular highlight.

Hope looked very lost when he first came on. Grew into the game a bit but I dont think he's knocking on the door of a first team spot.

Windsor showed a lot of spirit and some good touches but seemed to want to run away from the goal when he did get the ball.

1 mistake 1 point. We were poor once Tilley and Clifton departed. Tuesday we go again. 8)
UTMM

1 mistake 1 point. We were poor once Tilley and Clifton departed. Tuesday we go again. 8)
UTMM

Quoted from Masirah Mariner

Macca has always earned us more points than cost us.

Not sure about that. He’s guaranteed to throw one in probably 3-4 times a season in a manner you’d expect a keeper to only do once in a career. He’s rash, too slow across his line from distance, poor in the air and doesn’t inspire confidence.

I’d be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt if he hadn’t spat his dummy out over Henderson and then again after Jolley’s first season.

We got a point and the scunts lost happy days  ;D

Crap game but the conditions were hardly condusive to much else. Maybe worth considering that delivering quality from set pieces in a howling, swirling gale isn't as easy as some imagine from their sofa's. I know forums 30 minutes after full time aren't ever the most balanced places but also worth considering that footballers lives might be as tough as everyone else's at the minute and maybe more mistakes might happen this season than would normally.

At the end of the day we got a point at home when many other matches are ending with away wins.

At least we aren't VVV Venlo!

Never mind Macca sh1t happens I’m more concerned about the lack of idea in the final 3rd.

Terrible game in terrible conditions.

A point in a crap game, move on and go again.

We need to stop going over board on a game by game basis. Some on here and social media think we are world beaters one game and terrible three days later. Chill the intercourse out.

A word on Macca. Bad mistake but he has more than enough in the bank already this season to be given a break.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Terrible game in terrible conditions.

A point in a crap game, move on and go again.

We need to stop going over board on a game by game basis. Some on here and social media think we are world beaters one game and terrible three days later. Chill the intercourse out.

A word on Macca. Bad mistake but he has more than enough in the bank already this season to be given a break.

Silly assessment by using common sense .
What era are you living in???

Quoted from Croxton

If you mean me then you must think Crofty is a girl private too?

No I didn’t mean you

Quoted from grimsby pete

We got a point and the scunts lost happy days  ;D

That's it Pete A glass half full.... not going to disagree with that at all  ;)

UTM

Quoted from Oly1987

Wasteful I think is the best way to describe the game. We were absolutely awful from set pieces aside from the one half decent one that resulted in the goal.

Hope the injuries to Clifton and Tilley aren't too serious.

Morton and Taylor were pretty anonymous, nothing terrible but nothing too brilliant either.

Williams was pretty terrible today. Just wasn't in great positions to get the ball and when he did his passing and set pieces weren't up to scratch.

When Green came on we looked much more threatening on the left with his hold up play being a particular highlight.

Hope looked very lost when he first came on. Grew into the game a bit but I dont think he's knocking on the door of a first team spot.

Windsor showed a lot of spirit and some good touches but seemed to want to run away from the goal when he did get the ball.

Not suprised Hope looked a little lost......it was Starbuck  ;D

Quoted from Henryscat

There really are some girl privates on this board.

More on the pitch

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

That's it Pete A glass half full.... not going to disagree with that at all  ;)

UTM

(wine)(lff3) ;D

Prem teams get caught out playing it around at the back.  Why do we do it? We are not good enough.

Our passing and crossing still needs to improve.  We give so many free kicks away that invite direct pressure on our goal.

I usually use a moderate tone when talking about players.  However, I am exactly with Rancido on Macca.  Being a long and loyal servant of the club is irrelevant.  2 basic unavoidable awful errors have given the opposition 2 goals which effectively cost us 4 points in less than a week.

Making worldie saves is also irrelevant in my view.  Such saves only highlight the massive performance difference from the inexplicable and unexplainable member-ups.  

The analogy being the frustration anyone would feel about a maths professor who could not add 2 plus 2.

Kicking is his weak area.  A key part of a keeper’s role these days.  I would like to see a serious challenge to his place from a viable alternative.  

(Macca has always been prone to making inexplicable errors that result in goals.  Anyone remember that friendly against Sheff Wed, I think?  Macca kicked the ball out of his hands at the Pontoon end.  It ricocheted against their attacker in front of him straight into the net).

Morton, Taylor, Starbuck, Williams scored 8/10  -------------------------------2 each

pretty poor for me today....

Quoted from ska face

Not sure about that. He’s guaranteed to throw one in probably 3-4 times a season in a manner you’d expect a keeper to only do once in a career. He’s rash, too slow across his line from distance, poor in the air and doesn’t inspire confidence.

I’d be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt if he hadn’t spat his dummy out over Henderson and then again after Jolley’s first season.

Spot on.
Don’t forget if Ollie wants to get another keeper Macca will throw his toys out the pram and threaten to leave the club, so I hope all you Macca fanboys are ready for this.

I’ve always said he’s a decent non league keeper, a good shot stopper but poor on crosses and very poor distribution and now Ollie clearly wants us to play from the back his flaws are plainly there to see, time and time again passing to defenders who are clearly not in a safe position to receive the ball i.e poor decision making.

I’ve never understood the “legend status” of Macca at the club, a good loyal servant for us in the non league years and got well paid for his services but clearly not good enough and consistent enough for a team wishing to get out of league 2, Why we gave him a very generous 3 year deal I do not know.

Quoted from grimsby pete

We got a point and the scunts lost happy days  ;D

You'll be happy to finish 23rd providing Scunthorpe finish 24th then Pete?

Quoted from Sussexmariner

Why we gave him a very generous 3 year deal I do not know.

(I know we all love GTFC and the area) but if you were an outsider looking in would you want to come to Grimsby to play football?
It's no secret that in the past we've struggled to attract footballers to NE Lincs
Players incoming and present want to work and improve under Holloway. More so than they would have wanted to under Jolley, Slade, Hurst, Bignot, Wilkinson... which we painfully saw on many occasions

Besides Macca wants to be here. He's not just a player but also a fan

Quoted from 139881

Besides Macca wants to be here. He's not just a player but also a fan

Same applies to me. Can I play Tuesday?

Quoted from 139881

(I know we all love GTFC and the area) but if you were an outsider looking in would you want to come to Grimsby to play football?
It's no secret that in the past we've struggled to attract footballers to NE Lincs
Players incoming and present want to work and improve under Holloway. More so than they would have wanted to under Jolley, Slade, Hurst, Bignot, Wilkinson... which we painfully saw on many occasions

Besides Macca wants to be here. He's not just a player but also a fan

He also knows his selection is guaranteed (or thinks it is, if Holloway can really attract players because of his reputation he may wish to start looking at keepers)

We need to improve on today’s performance, sure we will though. Look forward to the Captain’s log in the next mariner. At least we’ll get £200 when the club send the video to you’ve been framed.

Ian Holloway described Grimsby Town’s 1-1 draw with Carlisle United as “probably the worst game I’ve ever seen” as his side picked up their first point at home this season.

James McKeown’s mistake at the start of the second half ultimately proved decisive, with the Town skipper’s own goal meaning the points were shared after Mattie Pollock’s opener.

It was a game severely lacking in quality though, with neither side really threatening to go on and claim the win during the second half.

And Holloway admitted afterwards he may have to resist making as many changes to the Mariners going forward, having made another three adjustments from the defeat to Harrogate.
“I’m delighted with the point in the end, and that’s probably the worst game I’ve ever seen from both teams,” Holloway said.

“Certainly from my team. I’ve never seen so many mistakes, and I was waiting for the confidence to build.

“We did one thing right when we played a great move, took a risk, played it in, built down the left, got a corner and scored from it.

“That was what I wanted to see, then all of a sudden we’re giving it away, they’re blocking us and we stopped playing the right pass.

“I made another load of changes, and it’s difficult to have any sort of rhythm and believe in yourself in a slightly different shape, so I might have to go back to what we know and what we’ve done previously.

“I felt they lost a lot of belief in how good they are and where they should be passing, and we haven’t really got enough time to practice that well.

“I just praised them all and told them what I believe, what we’ve got to do and how difficult it is because we’ve just been so thrown together.”

On the own-goal, Holloway added: “I missed the goal, I was trying to find my cap and I went to the toilet, so I came out, and instead of what I said at half-time helping them, it goes even worse.

“But we showed some steel and metal mentally to keep going and not fold.

“Our throw-ins are garbage, they really are, so it’s not just Macca.

“Again, we’ve hardly got any time to do that. That’s about two or three weeks, on an afternoon in the sun in pre-season when you work on them.”

Is Hewitt still injured - he can take a throw in and free kicks and can't be any worse than the shite on display today.

Macca should not be captain then he can concentrate on just his own game.

Maybe as captain his mind his elsewhere she he should be thinking about what he is doing himself.

Waterfall to made captain imo .

Ian Holloway said basically everything I wanted to say about the game. People will focus on the one clanger and say it lost us the game but we had the whole second half after that to find a winner against a team not playing all that great. Struggled to string two passes together or get a decent set piece except the one we scored from, struggled against another team of lumbering mammoths when we should have had the ability and pace to run rings around them.  

Macca might feel a tiny bit better if he watches L2 highlights tonight (well Tuesday on the coach perhaps). At least three other days to forget for some L2 keepers. More evidence too that overplaying at the back is risky. Good that it was Stevenage!
A little galling to see Jamille Matt having another stormer for Forest Green and Podge finishing a quality passing move for Newport. The only chance of points at Forest Green will be to play the channels, force errors, win corners and squeeze their midfield when they have the ball. Defending for 90 min won't work.
Might have been the right game for Scannell but it seems he has displeased Olly.

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(I know we all love GTFC and the area) but if you were an outsider looking in would you want to come to Grimsby to play football?
It's no secret that in the past we've struggled to attract footballers to NE Lincs
Players incoming and present want to work and improve under Holloway. More so than they would have wanted to under Jolley, Slade, Hurst, Bignot, Wilkinson... which we painfully saw on many occasions

Besides Macca wants to be here. He's not just a player but also a fan

Why not Grimsby? We have this debate every few weeks, but would you rather play in a village (FGR) or a big city with all its associated problems (Bradford say) or perhaps the delights of Barrow stuck on the north west coast. Then we have our own Scunthorpe. Who could resist?

I have said before there are obviously only 22 other places for a league 2 standard player to play at; all of them have problems from location, history or lack of, too big or too small, on the way  up or on the way down, good manager or bad, and above all else, money.

Assuming we pay reasonable money to the players we want, we will always be able to attract good players. We always have, and we always will. If other clubs are paying more money then we will obviously struggle to get the best but it is not Grimsby itself that is the problem, at least no more or less than other places.

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Macca might feel a tiny bit better if he watches L2 highlights tonight (well Tuesday on the coach perhaps). At least three other days to forget for some L2 keepers. More evidence too that overplaying at the back is risky. Good that it was Stevenage!
A little galling to see Jamille Matt having another stormer for Forest Green and Podge finishing a quality passing move for Newport. The only chance of points at Forest Green will be to play the channels, force errors, win corners and squeeze their midfield when they have the ball. Defending for 90 min won't work.
Might have been the right game for Scannell but it seems he has displeased Olly.

Matt has done alright for himself since being on loan with us. Always felt he didn't suit our system and how we wanted to play at the time and think other managers since have managed to play to his strengths.

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Macca should not be captain then he can concentrate on just his own game.

Maybe as captain his mind his elsewhere she he should be thinking about what he is doing himself.

Waterfall to made captain imo .

Nothing to do with Macca’s mistake yesterday but I’ve thought for a while Waterfall should be captain, he is our only natural leader at the minute.
I noticed yesterday at the end of the game he went around and talked to many of the younger players as they were walking off the pitch

Glad that Ollie mentioned how dreadful we are at throw ins. We are consistently shockingly bad at them and it was the same last season. The worst team in the league at them I would think.

I would have settled for a point before the match.

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Glad that Ollie mentioned how dreadful we are at throw ins. We are consistently shockingly bad at them and it was the same last season. The worst team in the league at them I would think.

Whenever I mention that we should have someone who can take a good throw in I get shot down!

A good throw in can be as dangerous as a good free kick or corner.

The goal we scored came from building from the back but during the first half my thoughts were at some stage we were going to concede a goal through it; and there were a few moments when we were in danger of losing possesion.
The throw in to was it Waterfall who back passed to Macca for his error, was nearer the half way line than our goal line, surely we should be playing these forward down the line.

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Whenever I mention that we should have someone who can take a good throw in I get shot down!

A good throw in can be as dangerous as a good free kick or corner.

It's  not just lacking a good long throw. It's basic throw ins to the man in front of them. Even from these we immediately lose possession the majority of the time. Look at the opposition's  as if throw ins and compare them to ours in terms of how often we lose possession, it's so frustrating.

Quoted from Croxton

No other team so far has been worse at passing, free kicks, throw ins, goal kicks, corners, goalie howlers, conceding free kicks and on field leadership. So many issues which are systemic to our set up whichever eleven takes the field. Plusses? plenty of effort at times and more minutes for Hanson.

Edit: MOM- Waterfall.

We're second best in the division at clearances apparently! ;D

The last three goals we've conceded have cost us five points essentially and they've all been Macca's fault. Admittedly, I think Harrogate would have found another way through had the goals they scored not gone in, but we'll never know that. Hope this blip is over for Macca as it could start to unsettle Pollock and Waterfall who are the only steady/consistent pair in the spine of our team.

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We're second best in the division at clearances apparently! ;D

The last three goals we've conceded have cost us five points essentially and they've all been Macca's fault. Admittedly, I think Harrogate would have found another way through had the goals they scored not gone in, but we'll never know that. Hope this blip is over for Macca as it could start to unsettle Pollock and Waterfall who are the only steady/consistent pair in the spine of our team.

Pollock and Waterfall have cost us plenty of goals too. Waterfall has dropped a few clangers that have led to goals and their lack of pace often gets exploited by runners. They, particularly Waterfall, have been excellent the last couple of games, but a few weeks ago the same was being said about Macca losing confidence in the defenders.

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Pollock and Waterfall have cost us plenty of goals too. Waterfall has dropped a few clangers that have led to goals and their lack of pace often gets exploited by runners. They, particularly Waterfall, have been excellent the last couple of games, but a few weeks ago the same was being said about Macca losing confidence in the defenders.

Waterfall definitely has a clanger in him, I agree with that. Especially when the ball is on the deck. I can't think of any goals that have necessarily been his or Pollock's fault though?

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Waterfall definitely has a clanger in him, I agree with that. Especially when the ball is on the deck. I can't think of any goals that have necessarily been his or Pollock's fault though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0HInHPwHM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0HInHPwHM

Ah yeah, I forgot about that. League Cup though, better to get his clangers out of the way than in the league.