Someone's got to start it.....

McKeown, Hewitt, Öhman, Idehen, Preston, Taylor, Clifton, Edwards, Williams, Tilley, Green.

Subs: Russell, Starbuck, Mohsni, Rose, Spokes, Gibson, Boyd.

Haven't heard it in ages but just took a quick listen to this (to get myself ready to watch it)  ;D
[youtube]LwN1gQqdSDc[/youtube]

UTMM

No Waterfall??

Boiled urine incoming in 3-2-1....

Walsall already winning at Harrogate

Anybody else getting commentary from daleks

Taking the knee balderdash.
That's me turning my back on the players when we are allowed in.
flipping sick of all this excrement in sport.

Their player lucky he didn't score an own goal there.

Commentary repeating itself

Big chance for edwards

Proud of them for taking the knee. Black lives matter and anyone who thinks they don’t shouldn’t support the club

Edwards must score there.

Who put Edwards through?  Some nice touches by town but it seems they don't believe in themselves.

I hate JTs negativity........

Quoted from Hagrid

Big chance for edwards

Are you at the game Hagrid because you posted it before I saw it on iFollow?     ;D

Really good game so far. Should be about 3-2.....

Edwards is a class act.

Making some good moves, end product for both teams not been there yet.

Quoted from TAGG

Taking the knee balderdash.
That's me turning my back on the players when we are allowed in.
flipping sick of all this excrement in sport.

lmao what a baby.

Bet you wanted James McLean to wear a poppy

Quoted from ska face

lmao what a baby.

Bet you wanted James McLean to wear a poppy

It's okay, times have changed and some people hate the fact that their way of life has become irrelevant. The world doesn't need them anymore. Hopefully our grandkids will live in a better world than our grandparents did.

Tllley is getting roasted

If it wasn't Salford there would be cards here. Ref will be getting a Beckham autograph in the mail for being lenient.

Quoted from Kris2

If it wasn't Salford there would be cards here. Ref will be getting a Beckham autograph in the mail for being lenient.

Agree Asante was very late on Ohman after the ball had gone out.

Thats where we miss fans being there. 2 yellows clear as day not given by the ref.    And PP i wish i was haha!

Superb save by salfords keeper to deny Green

Quoted from Mikoo

Proud of them for taking the knee. Black lives matter and anyone who thinks they don’t shouldn’t support the club

FFS we've all got the message by now. Isn't there another passing bandwagon for these twits to jump on

As long as we play the aerial game, they are muscling us out of eveything.  We get it on the deck and and they look vulnerable.

Lot of talent in Edwards and Preston, can see why they are so highly rated at their clubs.

Great run by Preston, Green unlucky not to score.

Salford look strong but we’ve had the two best chances, weird game.

No commentary on ifollow

Booking for them. Finally

Tilley is getting absolutely nothing from Salford left back

Quoted from Davec

Tilley is getting absolutely nothing from Salford left back

Very good player, looks to have some height on Tilley too but struggling on that side and need to move the ball elsewhere.

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Walsall already winning at Harrogate

Now 1-1

Scunny losing at Crawley    8)

balderdash

Penalty

0-1

What was Taylor doing>  He looks well sluggish.  COme on Macca!

Looked a massive dive to me. Where's VAR when you need it

It was Hewitt not Taylor

FFS, doing ok then gift them a lead.

Quoted from pontoonlew

That sums up Taylor’s game unfortunately

Very very unsure about him. His passing today has been terrible (he's kicked the ball out of play instead of finding a teammate several times) and now he's given them the opportunity to 'win' a penalty (still don't think it actually was one) through poor control.

That’s an awful penalty to give away...Macca looks terrified of the centre halves in front of him

It was hewitt

Taylor's not doing much and Edwards should have kept going rather than slowing it down. Crap game, don't think the wind is helping but again, no cohesion, can't keep chopping n changing like this.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Very very unsure about him. His passing today has been terrible (he's kicked the ball out of play instead of finding a teammate several times) and now he's given them the opportunity to 'win' a penalty (still don't think it actually was one) through poor control.

Being unsure of him is an extremely polite way of putting it

We’ve wasted some good opportunities to be fair but for the pen it looked like their player just ran across our player made contact and hit the deck.

That was really sloppy...poor control & then swinging a leg

Definitely a penalty but so easily avoidable

There were many on this forum who didn’t think we needed a striker on Wednesday...

Quoted from pontoonlew

There were many on this forum who didn’t think we needed a striker on Wednesday...

Sod a striker...I’d be happy with some ideas...

Quoted from aldi_01

That’s an awful penalty to give away...Macca looks terrified of the centre halves in front of him

No reason he should be...same pairing as last week and they gave a good account of themselves

Quoted from pontoonlew

There were many on this forum who didn’t think we needed a striker on Wednesday...

Well tbf we've missed a 1 on 1 and forced a great diving save out of their keeper, as well as a couple of other chances which have gone just past the post and bar. It's not been completely dire in an attacking sense, and we're only behind cos of an ill brained defensive member-up.

edit: still think we need someone with more presence up front like

Quoted from pontoonlew

There were many on this forum who didn’t think we needed a striker on Wednesday...

A fit striker would be handy. We've got Hanson, Sisay, Gibson and Jackson who are either injured or unfit.

Quoted from ska face

lmao what a baby.

Bet you wanted James McLean to wear a poppy

Proves my point.
All this excrement should be taken out of sport.
Will still turn my back.

OH Willaims! Really thought that was going in damn goal line clearance

Quoted from Chrisblor

Well tbf we've missed a 1 on 1 and forced a great diving save out of their keeper, as well as a couple of other chances which have gone just past the post and bar. It's not been completely dire in an attacking sense, and we're only behind cos of an ill brained defensive member-up.

edit: still think we need someone with more presence up front like

A better performance than last week for sure.  Salford a very physical and I think we had the edge until the goal.  ANother off the line!

Quoted from Chrisblor

Well tbf we've missed a 1 on 1 and forced a great diving save out of their keeper, as well as a couple of other chances which have gone just past the post and bar. It's not been completely dire in an attacking sense, and we're only behind cos of an ill brained defensive member-up.

edit: still think we need someone with more presence up front like

We’ve had 4 brilliant chances and not finished one of them, how on earth does that not scream needing a striker?

Create chances, miss chances, give away soft goal, repeat...

Quoted from TAGG

Proves my point.
All this excrement should be taken out of sport.
Will still turn my back.

Imagine getting wound up about someone standing up for something they believe in when you’ve paid to watch this flipping tripe.

If you wanna get wound up aim at the club and another half arsed performance...

Quoted from pontoonlew

We’ve had 4 brilliant chances and not finished one of them, how on earth does that not scream needing a striker?

Do you believe throwing another striker at the tons we already bought in will help? Who we going to bring in? What do you think they will do different to what we already have? We already missed out on 3 strikers, clearly we still can't compete with the clubs that have more than one person with money on the board or football celeb vanity projects like Salford. We need to live in reality and get what we have fit and develop them this season. "sign more players" is not the answer to everything, we've had too many bad seasons where we sign like 30 players and none make much difference.

I think people we have will come good and start producing, just need some patience and a reality check.

We've actually looked liked scoring, more so than the other games. Stupid pen, and the poor backpass almost made it 0-2, Sort of mistakes you make when players are not used to one another? Let's hope the lack of fitness doesn't lead to our usual second half dip.

Four observations,

1/ Salford = Agricultural football.
2/ Town= Toothless.
3/ What is Tilley doing ?
4/ Good god do we need a striker !

Should be winning, but silly mistake. Why is Macca hoofing the ball at Tilleys head?

For only having 9 men we have played ok, get Tilley and William's off and we should improve no end

Could have easily had 4 goals there and we’ve actually played well. Tilley needs to do more and Idehen worries me. He’s done well for a youngster, but let’s be honest, we’ll be better with Pollock or waterfall in there.

Keep this up and we should get a couple of goals. Nothing against the lad, but please don’t bring Boyd on as a sub again. Still not sure how it’s possible the both Jackson and Sisay aren’t on the bench.

Quoted from pontoonlew

We’ve had 4 brilliant chances and not finished one of them, how on earth does that not scream needing a striker?

Don't want to turn into one of those XG loving advanced football statistic nerds but creating regular chances is the most important part of scoring goals on a consistent basis. Yes, having more clinical attacking players helps with this, but if you keep carving out good opportunities like that (as we have all half) then sooner or later some of them are likely to end up in the net. And anyway you've completely brushed past the last sentence in my previous post.

First half thoughts
Tilley needs to put more effort in. Beaten to ball by fullback numerous times early on by just being less interested. Edwards really showing his need for better decision making. I've still not seen anything in Taylor. Preston looked good again. Clifton really surprised and impressed me for first 20 mins then disappeared.
Definitely a penalty.
So unlucky to have balled cleared off line on 45 mins. Probably should have scored or at least done better on a couple of occasions.
They probably should have had a man sent off for 2 yellows at least, neither of which were given.
Towell for them has bossed everything.

Quoted from Kris2

Do you believe throwing another striker at the tons we already bought in will help? Who we going to bring in? What do you think they will do different to what we already have? We already missed out on 3 strikers, clearly we still can't compete with the clubs that have more than one person with money on the board or football celeb vanity projects like Salford. We need to live in reality and get what we have fit and develop them this season. "sign more players" is not the answer to everything, we've had too many bad seasons where we sign like 30 players and none make much difference.

What do they have that we don’t already have?

I’m glad you asked, are you forgetting how utterly woeful Green was last year? 2 goals in the league for an entire season, now he’s our best option. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke and might do well, but he’s not league standard anymore IMO.

Our other 3 options haven’t played a league game and Hanson is injured yet again.

You can see it as negative, I’d like to think I’m a fairly realistic fan but to see our striking options and to be happy is completely and utterly naive.

To be fair that was a great save from Green’s header. Not sure any other striker would have scored.

Come out second half guns blazing and we might sneak this.

Further proof, not that we ever needed it, that those morons who were calling others ‘snowflakes’ all this time have been the real snowflakes all along. Imagine crying because some people are exercising their rights

As most have said Tilley is really struggling against Tourey he's being out muscled, beaten in the air and struggling to cover him defensively.

2 half games in I don't see what Taylor brings to the side. Opening 10 minutes bad pass after bad pass after bad pass, then he's completely disappeared for the last 35 minutes. Can't wiat for Rose to be fully fit thought he did a great job in the holding role against Morecombe.

We could easily be winning this but its just not happening for us in that final third of the pitch. Idehan and Ohman once again impressing Idehan especially he looks alot calmer this week thought he looked a little jittery last weekend.

Well whatever we think about the need for a new striker, IH stated in his interview that he is looking for an experienced one to help us, so he obviously feels that we do.

Quoted from Henryscat

To be fair that was a great save from Green’s header. Not sure any other striker would have scored.

Come out second half guns blazing and we might sneak this.

Head it down he scores, he didnt and ....he didnt

Quoted from pontoonlew

What do they have that we don’t already have?

I’m glad you asked, are you forgetting how utterly woeful Green was last year? 2 goals in the league for an entire season, now he’s our best option. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke and might do well, but he’s not league standard anymore IMO.

Our other 3 options haven’t played a league game and Hanson is injured yet again.

You can see it as negative, I’d like to think I’m a fairly realistic fan but to see our striking options and to be happy is completely and utterly naive.

I notice you do not have a flipping clue who we could bring in that has something we don't already have. Says it all really, you just want a new striker because it's exciting for the fans to see a new face and hope they'll be good. Not even going to entertain the whining about Green or that Hanson has an injury.

Name a player who is available, will come here now, we can afford and is better than what we have. You can even go ahead and suggest it to the GTFC board and IH as you clearly know more about what we need and what's available.

Quoted from Ipswin

FFS we've all got the message by now. Isn't there another passing bandwagon for these twits to jump on

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'd be interested to hear you state this particular point directly to our black players , whom  I suspect have had very different life experiences to you, and see what they have to say with regards this 'bandwagon' you think they have all jumped on.

To suggest we've all 'got the message' now is bonkers in the extreme. I think what you are actually saying is please stop upsetting my delicate white sensibilities. Red cross away guys, each one is another example of how we certainly haven't all 'got the message' yet.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

As most have said Tilley is really struggling against Tourey he's being out muscled, beaten in the air and struggling to cover him defensively.

2 half games in I don't see what Taylor brings to the side. Opening 10 minutes bad pass after bad pass after bad pass, then he's completely disappeared for the last 35 minutes. Can't wiat for Rose to be fully fit thought he did a great job in the holding role against Morecombe.

We could easily be winning this but its just not happening for us in that final third of the pitch. Idehan and Ohman once again impressing Idehan especially he looks alot calmer this week thought he looked a little jittery last weekend.

Idehan nearly cost us another goal with a rash decision and we are giving away too many fouls. I think they look anything but calm when Salford come forward lol.

I expect a lot of gamesmanship from Salford.  

Offside from a freekick....come on.....properly basic stuff this

Quoted from Kris2

I notice you do not have a flipping clue who we could bring in that has something we don't already have. Says it all really, you just want a new striker because it's exciting for the fans to see a new face and hope they'll be good. Not even going to entertain the whining about Green or that Hanson has an injury.

Name a player who is available, will come here now, we can afford and is better than what we have. You can even go ahead and suggest it to the GTFC board and IH as you clearly know more about what we need and what's available.

We were actively trying to sign Omar Bogle, so there is clearly scope to bring someone in. It's down to the management to identify an appropriate striker, not the job of the fans.

Attacking the Pontoon always gives us a lift

Please take Tilley off.  Green's having a good game.  Playes some smart passes.

‘The war was over 100 years ago, we’ve got the message by now’ would rightly be a ridiculous thing to saw at the start of November when the country has a ‘who can wear the biggest poppy’ competition btw.

Got away with one there - Ohman properly clattered their player, didn't look to get any of the ball to me.

They’re a bunch of cheating illegitimates aren’t they? And the EFL/refs pander to them because of their owners.

Any shout from Mckeown?. NO leader on the pitch or communication.

Quoted from WetFlannel

‘The war was over 100 years ago, we’ve got the message by now’ would rightly be a ridiculous thing to saw at the start of November when the country has a ‘who can wear the biggest poppy’ competition btw.

So lets all just drop to our knees with a raised clenched fist and listen to yet another whine from Lewis Hamilton on one pre-designated day a year. I could live with that but prior to every sporting event?  Not for me.

Is Taylor a footballer?

Quoted from aldi_01

Is Taylor a footballer?

Rose is.

For an apparent set piece expert Williams's set pieces are terrible

Didn’t realise Williams was playing...

Tilley off Gibson on

It’s definitely more than one day a year btw, we have the last week of October and about 2 weeks of November. Not that I’m complaining in case theres any weird ultra nationalists here. And I’d complain even less if there were people who had died during WW1 on the field. Imagine being a black player taking a to show solidarity for the things he and some of those he knows have to go through still, and there’s a bunch of little dweebs booing and deciding to talk excrement. That in itself proves exactly why the knee exists, because there’s flipping morons still moaning about equality. It’s literally before the game even starts, you could tune in on 00:00 and see nothing and still there’s snowflakes moaning.

Quoted from cardiffmariner

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I'd be interested to hear you state this particular point directly to our black players , whom  I suspect have had very different life experiences to you, and see what they have to say with regards this 'bandwagon' you think they have all jumped on.

To suggest we've all 'got the message' now is bonkers in the extreme. I think what you are actually saying is please stop upsetting my delicate white sensibilities. Red cross away guys, each one is another example of how we certainly haven't all 'got the message' yet.

I would love to explain in full to all our black players that I’m fully in support of ending racism in all forms but can’t support a movement that wants to defund/abolish the police.

We hear a lot about fitness levels but do we not practice set pieces ? Woeful !!!!!!

Quoted from WetFlannel

It’s definitely more than one day a year btw, we have the last week of October and about 2 weeks of November. Not that I’m complaining in case theres any weird ultra nationalists here. And I’d complain even less if there were people who had died during WW1 on the field. Imagine being a black player taking a to show solidarity for the things he and some of those he knows have to go through still, and there’s a bunch of little dweebs booing and deciding to talk excrement. That in itself proves exactly why the knee exists, because there’s flipping morons still moaning about equality. It’s literally before the game even starts, you could tune in on 00:00 and see nothing and still there’s snowflakes moaning.

Fuc off, start another thread.... this is the match thread!

Pipe down dweeb. We’re all watching and it’s 1-0

What the absolute intercourse

The youngsters and the lads stepping up from the lower levels are really exposed when it counts most in the final 3rd.

Quoted from Mariner Ronnie

I would love to explain in full to all our black players that I’m fully in support of ending racism in all forms but can’t support a movement that wants to defund/abolish the police.

This

And it is exactly why I have described the UK BLM mob as jumping on the bandwaggon

FFS gaz Neville wins them a pen. Because I can’t see what else it’s for

Absolutely shocking penalty decision

Game over !!

Game over...never been a penalty mind but still...

the flipping EFL and this referee are bent girl privates, intercourse right off

What....penalty your having a laugh ref

Hewitt handball I think.....shocking

Outragegoeus! Another goal that never was.

That is one of the worst decisions ive ever seen

Saw Salford players talking to the ref as they walked back out for the second half. Probably making sure he understands the instructions he's been given during the break. Guess shows how it is when you have powerful backers with connections. Honestly hope they do get promoted just so we don't have to play them again because it's always like this.

Anyone know why?
Handball of the first player?

Ha Ha. How the hell was that a penalty?
What a joke!!!!

That was a worse decision than the Harrogate 2nd goal.

What a joke that is - another penalty

2-0..... to the referee 🤬

Definitely looked like it hit Hewitt’s arm.

Currently 2nd bottom. No goals and no points.
Hyped up or what.

It'll be interesting what Ollie has to say about that after the game.

I can hear Holloway now claiming we did OK as we didn't concede in open play, Oh hang on 20 mins to go yet....

Quoted from Morris Minor

Ha Ha. How the hell was that a penalty?
What a joke!!!!

It's either handball from Hewitt (the ball was blasted at him from a few feet away and i'm not even sure he was in the area in the first place), or a 'foul' by Ohman, which where clearly flipping wasn't one cos all he was doing was shepherding the Salford attacker away from the goal as he's completely entitled to do? Absolutely flipping bent corruption.

It's gonna be a long winter.  

1.  Gibson needs to read up on the offside rule.
2.  Tilley needs to grow some balls.  
3.  Taylor needs reminding that he's not having  a kick about with some kids in Sydney Park.

Quoted from Grantley

Definitely looked like it hit Hewitt’s arm.

If that was the case it would be a free kick because he wasn't in the box.

Quoted from Kris2

Saw Salford players talking to the ref as they walked back out for the second half. Probably making sure he understands the instructions he's been given during the break. Guess shows how it is when you have powerful backers with connections. Honestly hope they do get promoted just so we don't have to play them again because it's always like this.

I think 5g was to blame too.
Seriously a shocking decision but a quality conspiracy theory.

As it was crossed, it hit Hewitt as he turned his back on it. The ref has deemed it to be handball.

SHOCKING DECISION!!!

Mohsni is warming up

Think that makes us joint bottom  ?

Hope Mohsni goes mad and two foots some of these cheating sharp objects. Can take the referee out while he's at it as well.

Quoted from denni266

Think that makes us joint bottom  ?

Does the table even matter after two games? Though I recall people still get a stiffy over the fact we were top of the championship after a couple of games one season so maybe it does.

Quoted from mimma

As it was crossed, it hit Hewitt as he turned his back on it. The ref has deemed it to be handball.

SHOCKING DECISION!!!

The fact he turned his back worries me...

Holloway has been exposed here he should have started with more experience considering that they are so physical and their bench are trying to ref the game.

Quoted from Chrisblor

It's either handball from Hewitt (the ball was blasted at him from a few feet away and i'm not even sure he was in the area in the first place), or a 'foul' by Ohman, which where clearly flipping wasn't one cos all he was doing was shepherding the Salford attacker away from the goal as he's completely entitled to do? Absolutely flipping bent corruption.

I’m surprised the fourth official didn’t get a word to the referee to say he should have sent Öhman off for violent conduct

Vernam would have scored or a least earned a penalty against this lot   :o

Green off Mohsni on

Quoted from aldi_01

Imagine getting wound up about someone standing up for something they believe in when you’ve paid to watch this flipping tripe.

If you wanna get wound up aim at the club and another half arsed performance...

We can lay this shitness at the feet of two people but if I say who they are the bottom lickers will be after me for the first one and the hero worshipper will give me intercourse for the other one.

Quoted from Kris2

Does the table even matter after two games? Though I recall people still get a stiffy over the fact we were top of the championship after a couple of games one season so maybe it does.

How we start the season matters a lot, five or six defeats in the first 7 or 8 games and we have a mountain to climb. I just don't see us having the squad to come back from a bad start, chasing points and closing the gap to clubs above us so early in the season A good start is absolutely essential IMO

Quoted from TAGG

We can lay this shitness at the feet of two people but if I say who they are the bottom lickers will be after me for the first one and the hero worshipper will give me intercourse for the other one.

You mean Fenty and Holloway...

Quoted from promotion plaice

Vernam would have scored or a least earned a penalty against this lot   :o

Optimistic to think there's a chance this referee would give us any kind of beneficial decision

Quoted from Ipswin

How we start the season matters a lot, five or six defeats in the first 7 or 8 games and we have a mountain to climb. I just don't see us having the squad to come back from a bad start, chasing points and closing the gap to clubs above us so early in the season A good start is absolutely essential IMO

And opinions are just the lowest form of knowledge.

It’s official - I no longer have any ill feeling against Northampton, Cheltenham or MK Dons; Salford are the new enemy.

Forget about the local derbies as well, THESE are the scumbags of English football.

Disappointed with Holloway’s response here TBH, not what he’s asking the side to do differently

Throw ins and free kicks are dire!

Quoted from aldi_01

You mean Fenty and Holloway...

He does. The two people who if they left there wouldn't even be a club anymore and maybe then our hardline nationalist friend would be happy. Plenty of room down the road in Cleethorpes for fans to watch some lower league football for him. He hates Fenty and Holloway as much as he hates non-whites.

3 flipping illegitimate nil

0-3   :o

Quoted from Kris2

And opinions are just the lowest form of knowledge.

They're like arseholes, everybody has one.

I take it you won't care about the table until we are two games from the end of the season, 6 points adrift, the bearded Mesiah has walked and Jolley isn't answering his phone

All from Taylor doing intercourse all but jog aling side the guy making the cross

Awful, flipping awful.

Can try and pick a positive out but you’re making it up.

It’s woeful...no wonder Macca is terrified with these two in front of him

Quoted from aldi_01

You mean Fenty and Holloway...

Shhhh they will be after me now ;)

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

All from Taylor doing intercourse all but jog aling side the guy making the cross

All three goals as a result of Hewitt not stopping the cross.

Lazy tackle for the first pen, not right enough for the second. Third one he’s backtracking and not close enough. Bring back Hendrie.

Quoted from Kris2

He does. The two people who if they left there wouldn't even be a club anymore and maybe then our hardline nationalist friend would be happy. Plenty of room down the road in Cleethorpes for fans to watch some lower league football for him. He hates Fenty and Holloway as much as he hates non-whites.

We'd definitely miss Fenty thats for sure

I thought someone said it was nailed on we were gonna beat these nouveau riche cos they played on Thursday night?

Time to rob the loan account. This is abysmal.

Game, set and match Henderson

Thank goodness my money is still in my pocket!
Nothing changes, absolute poor again.
At least the i-follow is spot on, but I think it's time to switch to Leeds. Currently 4-3.
:) :) :) :)

Been dire this 2nd half. Hate salford and how they are but made it easy for them

How can you be 3-0 up and such a crap side ?

What does that say about us ?

Has Holloway ever managed in non-league?

How can you be 3-0 up and such a crap side ?

What does that say about us ?

Quoted from bax

All three goals as a result of Hewitt not stopping the cross.

Lazy tackle for the first pen, not right enough for the second. Third one he’s backtracking and not close enough. Bring back Hendrie.

The third is clearly Taylor, Hewitt is marking the guy in front if the cross taker. The 1st he had no idea the man was there as he came from behind him and tripped him

Imagine still thinking we wouldn’t have a club without Fenty...

This is awful. Holloway has been exposed here, Tondeur is justifying a substitution because a professional footballer didn’t have the legs in the second half...

Excuse after excuse, off the pitch and on the pitch.

It’s just not good enough and to be honest if you really look at it you can’t see ya being much better than relegation fodder...

Alot of these lads bought in this and last season after a big bit of hype from ollie so far a big disappointment.

Tilley in particular every time I've seem him he's been anonymous, Taylor the lad from wolves looks lost.

Alot of improvement needed no doubt and I know its early but this team looks nowhere near ready for league 2.

Aldi 01 you really are a sharp object why dont you go support someone else never anything positive to say ,we have been decent against 12 men, tw@t

Wonder how much longer Holloway thinks he's going to be able to get away with his whimsical wurzel gummidge routine when asked to explain how massively off the pace this side he's assembled looks.

Not sure how Crofty can say we are the better Team, yes, we are trying to play more football than them, but we aren’t very good at it 😕

Quoted from newarkmariner

Aldi 01 you really are a sharp object why dont you go support someone else never anything positive to say ,we have been decent against 12 men, tw@t

You deluded girl private...are seriously happy with this? Like seriously?

Dig your head out the clubs bottom.

This has been awful and we don’t look to have any ideas. You’d struggle to pick a positive out of home game when you’ve lost 3-0 or more...

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Alot of these lads bought in this and last season after a big bit of hype from ollie so far a big disappointment.

.

I imagine they are disappointed too (in Holloway's bullshit)

Quoted from Morris Minor

Thank goodness my money is still in my pocket!
Nothing changes, absolute poor again.
At least the i-follow is spot on, but I think it's time to switch to Leeds. Currently 4-3.
:) :) :) :)

Things will never be that bad. Even 5:0 down at Braintree I would never have consider swapping to Dirty Fuckin Leeds.

Crofty should stick to selling houses. No way have we been the better team.

Bring on the second wave and let’s stop this season now

Oh for a striker like Henderson

Completely p!ssed off now, Taylor has been awful, Hewitt not much better, Edwards hasn't done enough and Ludwigs getting caught all over the place. The only thing I can say that is remotely positive is that we are trying to play football on the ground, been some chinks of light with a couple of nice moves. Think we are at least 4 games away from seeing a positive league result to be honest

Quoted from aldi_01

Imagine still thinking we wouldn’t have a club without Fenty...

This is awful. Holloway has been exposed here, Tondeur is justifying a substitution because a professional footballer didn’t have the legs in the second half...

Excuse after excuse, off the pitch and on the pitch.

It’s just not good enough and to be honest if you really look at it you can’t see ya being much better than relegation fodder...

Who else at the club or in the area is fronting any money and keeping the club afloat? You're all dreamers who still think we are punching well above our weight and have TV money to throw around. We are a non-league side who limped to a play off final a few times and finally won one then struggled to stay afloat in the league with a fanbase who likes watching us go through managers and players like Charlie Sheen goes through hookers.

Delusional fans with a massive chip on our shoulder and it needs to stop if we ever are going to survive in this league. We gave a decent account of ourselves through the game and were let down by mistakes or referee decisions, did you think we were actually going to win against Salford? They will probably walk through the league this season. We are not a big club at this level, this is not 20-25 years ago. You are fans of a little club that needs as much local support as possible. Some fans thinking we are the biggest club in the area and are going to be playing in a massive stadium soon lol.

So post match....

- The ref got it wrong (which he probably did)
- We haven’t had enough time (debatable)
- We have no budget (no change there).

All of which will be wrapped up in the normal mumbo jumbo that the manager talks what you’re unlikely to hear is...

- I signed the players so it’s down to me if they’re not up to it
- I left experience on the bench against these cheating tw@ts
- I set the team up but didn’t change it when it wasn’t going well
- We’re very poor in the final 3rd and don’t get enough bodies in the box.

Yeah a lot of today hasn’t gone well but it’s the 2nd league game in a row that you can’t really tell what the lads are meant to be doing.

Most frustrating thing is salford are absolutely dire.

Says alot as to were we currently are.

Moan ye way out of this one Ian

Quoted from Chrisblor

Wonder how much longer Holloway thinks he's going to be able to get away with his whimsical wurzel gummidge routine when asked to explain how massively off the pace this side he's assembled looks.

About another 5 weeks...wasn’t 6 weeks seemingly the acceptable amount of time to wait until we’re fit enough.

It’s just a bit excrement. We’ve huffed and puffed to no avail, we can blame the ref for a dodgy second penalty but 2 shocking bits of defending have meant we’ve been well beaten.

You can try all you like but find positives in a home defeat that’s seen us shift 3 or more is just straw clutching...

At least no one was allowed into the ground today!

Only positive I can think of

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Think we are at least 4 games away from seeing a positive league result to be honest

That is a very optimistic view It will take longer than that I reckon looking at the fixtures

I hope Salford don't get promoted. I can see why Alexander got sacked by Scunthorpe. Ref dire Town not fit enough. Don't rate Taylor or Williams. Give me hess anytime over wililiams.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Most frustrating thing is salford are absolutely dire.

Says alot as to were we currently are.

I don’t agree with much you say but you’re spot on here, they were excrement

Quoted from HertsGTFC

So post match....

- The ref got it wrong (which he probably did)
- We haven’t had enough time (debatable)
- We have no budget (no change there).

All of which will be wrapped up in the normal mumbo jumbo that the manager talks what you’re unlikely to hear is...

- I signed the players so it’s down to me if they’re not up to it
- I left experience on the bench against these cheating tw@ts
- I set the team up but didn’t change it when it wasn’t going well
- We’re very poor in the final 3rd and don’t get enough bodies in the box.

Yeah a lot of today hasn’t gone well but it’s the 2nd league game in a row that you can’t really tell what the lads are meant to be doing.

I missed one....

- We’re missing Hanson & Hendrie

Quoted from grimps

Bring on the second wave and let’s stop this season now

NULL AND VOID!

The 3rd goal was clearly ohmans fault, he was nowhere near his man but then tries to try and blame idehen who actually looks a better player right now than ohman ever has.

Feel sorry for him as he has potential and doesn't need to be a scapegoat from ohman.

The senior players haven't looked in the slightest good enough.

Quoted from aldi_01

You’d struggle to pick a positive out of home game when you’ve lost 3-0 or more...

We didn’t have to go to BP to watch it.

my only criticism (not cos we are 3 down) but he really needs to play his strongest side, i would.  If they get injured so be it, but if they dont then there getting match fitness, you aint going to get anywhere near the first 11 if you aint playing.  

stop covering the players in cotton wool and give them the minutes they need.  

Ffs 3rd pen red for Ohman

Even the happy clappers can’t pick a positive here...

4 flipping nil against a excrement flipping team. Bunch of girl privates

Well at least we'll have to pick a different centre half pairing for the next game

Embarrassing....0-4

Ohman sent-off

We look poor

Quoted from LH

We didn’t have to go to BP to watch it.

Got to waste £10 on a stream instead.

Awful by Ohman, that.

Ohman red.

Only bonus is we won't see him for 3 games now.

It sounds like the only thing we got right today was taking the knee.

Quoted from Ipswin

I imagine they are disappointed too (in Holloway's bullshit)

With exception of Edwards.  Defo put a shift in this afternoon. Tondeur says he makes a lot of bed decisions but often he has no options to goes that one extra.

One of the worst midfields for a long time - Williams and Taylor absolutely dire.  Is Scholes the referee ? I wont even go into what I think of Town's manager - he must take the blame for this shite - even though he'll come up with the usual excuses

flipping woeful

Quoted from KingstonMariner

It sounds like the only thing we got right today was taking the knee.

We ought to do it now and beg Salford to stop

Sorry but that’s flipping shite. Who scouted Taylor? Awful awful player.

No end product and people on here with their rose tinted specs thinking we’re fine up front. The only team in the league to play one pre season, what a surprise.

Ollie's honeymoon period is well and truly over.

James Tilley p1ss poor as well.

90 mins spend finding and pressing the self detuct button.

As I said, even the happy clappers are gonna struggle to pull anything out of that other than no fornicator was in the ground to see it.

Holloway needs to have a look at himself there...

Taylor? What is he becauee he doesn’t look a footballer.
I hope Williams finds himself fast else we’ve seriously downgraded...

The rest, I mean who knows because there’s so much to unpick there...

....and yet, we’re only 4 points off the playoff places so that’s good

Taylor looked like he was told to come and have a kick about, looked lost and completely out of his depth.

I really really like holloway but how can he even be positive after watching that?

Shocked to death.

Right I’m off , I only come on here when we’re winning so I’ll see you when I see you  ??)

Dont bother moving up here worzel . you have been found out your players have been found out and your choice of how to play have been found out  crap  total crap . Roll on lockdown and end of season..  You have put a crock of sheit together .

wasnt it the famous radio interview last time we lost 4-0 at home?

See you in 2021 then grimps

Quoted from Kris2

He does. The two people who if they left there wouldn't even be a club anymore and maybe then our hardline nationalist friend would be happy. Plenty of room down the road in Cleethorpes for fans to watch some lower league football for him. He hates Fenty and Holloway as much as he hates non-whites.

I did say the bottom lickers and hero worshipper would be after me 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Not the youngsters fault at all but this was a game that needed fighting spirit and experience. We look miles off where we need to be.

Don't like betting against Town, but I did today, and whilst the first half was even, we were very poor in the 2nd, with some bad defending, and not able to find a pass. We look well short on quality, but what can't be excused are our poor levels of fitness....after struggling against Morecambe, and then seeing them get hammered today, it's going to be a long season...UTM

Garbage 2nd half, might as well of played with 10 men then have Taylor on the pitch at least everyone else would of had to work harder then just have him lazily marking, passing and jogging round the pitch.

Can't argue about 2 of the penos, they were penos only complaint is when they were happening at the other end the ref oddly didn't see it that way.

Today shows we desperately need someone like Hanson back, fully fit Scannell and Rose and players like Edwards, Tilley and a few of the other young lads coming off the bench rather then starting.

Idehan, Clifton and Ohamn the only real players to praise today again.

Well we looked very jittery at the start with Macca flapping about but then settled ok , Hewitt fast asleep to give away the first, we created chances, certainly looked more positive at times than we ever did last week , plenty of players in the box but just no finish.

Allowed them far too much time to put dangerous looking balls in throughout, i think that was the shape allowing them to double up out wide.
Second goal killed the game, handball against Hewitt i am presuming...harsh an understatement...third goal Taylor too knackered to pick the pass off in the midfield and too tired to close down another cross.
Look at the centre halves if you like but a small striker heading in from inside the 6 yd box....i would expect the keeper to be somewhere in that picture.
Fourth goal...if he hadnt of been pulled back the contact on his first shot would have scored, in the heat of the moment Ohman not really thinking clearly that the game is over anyway so just let him score and avoid a suspension.

Tilley & Williams not good enough for me, Taylor tires too quickly ,  our lack of pre season games, understanding, preparation , fitness and quality in depth shining through.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Ohman red.

Only bonus is we won't see him for 3 games now.

Sorry to disappoint you, it’ll only be 1 for a professional foul, it’s violent conduct that gets you 3

As a general guide most say lets see where we are after the first 10 games, so lets not panic just yet.

After today's non performance and lack of fight, we need to see a reaction from the players and Ollie to restore some faith, come on Ollie sort it out.

Well that just got more and more painful to watch. Didn’t think the first half was too bad considering where the squad is but Taylor or Tilley should have been changed at half time. Tilley in particular was owned by their left back and Taylor was seemingly knackered and missing the whole game. I thought Green played well today, plenty of work rate and really unlucky not to get a goal drawing a great save. Clifton put in a shift. Ohman’s red card makes it easier now to shoe in a different CB pairing. Not much to say about the second half, it was terrible.

Hoping a fit Scannel, Rose and Hanson can bring much more to the team. I’d like to get a 30 min look at Sisay over the next few games.

Does Macca always dive right on Penalties?

Should play the best players and keep playing them until they are fit enough to last the whole game.

We’re not there yet, we know we’re not. Let’s not over-react, just yet.
I suppose I await the red crosses, do I care?

I think the only way we are going to stay a league club this season is for it to be locked down again or clubs to fold. we have been sold down the river again. We let far too many players go just to save a few bob , and replace them with kids and non league players . Olley thinks he is better than he is by a long way . you cant take kids and non league players and expect them to just step up and be wonder kids over night . the aim is to win games now not keep looking for later on . If this is the best we can do given we are all suposed to have the same budget , is it realy worth it

Oh for a Pouton, Cunnington or Cockerill. Almost makes you weep!

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Oh for a Pouton, Cunnington or Cockerill. Almost makes you weep!

Throw a Gilbert, Birtles, Mendonca and Futch into the equation and...oh no... where's my handkerchief.

Quoted from denni266

I think the only way we are going to stay a league club this season is for it to be locked down again or clubs to fold. we have been sold down the river again. We let far too many players go just to save a few bob , and replace them with kids and non league players . Olley thinks he is better than he is by a long way . you cant take kids and non league players and expect them to just step up and be wonder kids over night . the aim is to win games now not keep looking for later on . If this is the best we can do given we are all suposed to have the same budget , is it realy worth it

It wasn't long ago there was a thread on here about Town getting promoted and now the mood has swing the other way. It's almost certainly too early to say. We've signed a shed load of players, and had no pre-season. These early games basically are our pre-season! We're far from a well oiled machine.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Oh for a Pouton, Cunnington or Cockerill. Almost makes you weep!

Just one MF player like that would make all the difference  :-/

IH:

"It is what it is I’m afraid. If you look back at the game, we had opportunities in the first half when it was goalless and close, probably better opportunities.

We felt there was a penalty, ref didn’t give it, and then before you know it they’ve gone up the other end and got one.

I didn’t like us after we let a goal in. Things stopped, and then our inexperience showed."

2nd Penalty:

"I was as perplexed as anyone in the ground, and there aren’t many of us, but I don’t know what the second penalty was for.

For me, it looked like the bloke belted it at my fella, and if it hits his hand, it can’t possibly be deliberate, and they go and get that one.

After that, we died, and when you’re a new group, and you’re as young as we are at the moment, that’s a bit of a worry, that’s a bit dangerous, and that’s what happened I’m afraid."

Quoted from grimps

Right I’m off , I only come on here when we’re winning so I’ll see you when I see you  ??)

Cheers mate, have a nice Christmas

Quoted from TAGG

I did say the bottom lickers and hero worshipper would be after me 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

I don’t like Fenty not going to hide that fact and today’s performance underlies my reasons why! He is single handily killing the Club off again and praise over how we are being run in light of COVID are very short sighted.

Pitch: terrible as we did nothing to it during lock down, look at other clubs in our league, their pitches are mint. How many clubs in league 2 closed up shop and did nothing during lockdown? Looking at other clubs on TV we most definitely seem to have the worst pitch.

Signings: have we actually signed anyone on a permanent deal where any of us are looking and thinking decent? Then again how can Holloway sign a decent player with Fenty & Co insisting on COVID clauses in players contracts? Good business sense yes however why would any decent player sign up for this, especially as we are in the very minority inserting such clauses? A decent player is going to be in demand and simply is going to wait to get the most that he can as football careers are very short, those coming to town are coming because their options are very limited elsewhere.

Fenty still pulls all the strings at the club as he’s the only person with serious money on the board. Despite this he does not want to put money in and is happy to take money off us, the supporters via things like the crowd funder, reworded terms and conditions for season tickets that sees no refunds and share issues, yet not put in any himself. If this is wrong Fenty then why don’t you and your Merry board friends come out and tell us how much money you have collectively put into the club so far this year? You won’t because the answer is ZERO, yet the supporters whom many have nothing try to give our club everything in order for it to survive.

Quoted from SDUTM

I don’t like Fenty not going to hide that fact and today’s performance underlies my reasons why! He is single handily killing the Club off again and praise over how we are being run in light of COVID are very short sighted.

Pitch: terrible as we did nothing to it during lock down, look at other clubs in our league, their pitches are mint. How many clubs in league 2 closed up shop and did nothing during lockdown? Looking at other clubs on TV we most definitely seem to have the worst pitch.

Signings: have we actually signed anyone on a permanent deal where any of us are looking and thinking decent? Then again how can Holloway sign a decent player with Fenty & Co insisting on COVID clauses in players contracts? Good business sense yes however why would any decent player sign up for this, especially as we are in the very minority inserting such clauses? A decent player is going to be in demand and simply is going to wait to get the most that he can as football careers are very short, those coming to town are coming because their options are very limited elsewhere.

Fenty still pulls all the strings at the club as he’s the only person with serious money on the board. Despite this he does not want to put money in and is happy to take money off us, the supporters via things like the crowd funder, reworded terms and conditions for season tickets that sees no refunds and share issues, yet not put in any himself. If this is wrong Fenty then why don’t you and your Merry board friends come out and tell us how much money you have collectively put into the club so far this year? You won’t because the answer is ZERO, yet the supporters whom many have nothing try to give our club everything in order for it to survive.

Plenty of supporters questioned this and additional funds raised for the club.
Even questioning were the monies would be used brought some interesting responses from certain posters.

Quoted from SDUTM

I don’t like Fenty not going to hide that fact and today’s performance underlies my reasons why! He is single handily killing the Club off again and praise over how we are being run in light of COVID are very short sighted.

Pitch: terrible as we did nothing to it during lock down, look at other clubs in our league, their pitches are mint. How many clubs in league 2 closed up shop and did nothing during lockdown? Looking at other clubs on TV we most definitely seem to have the worst pitch.

Signings: have we actually signed anyone on a permanent deal where any of us are looking and thinking decent? Then again how can Holloway sign a decent player with Fenty & Co insisting on COVID clauses in players contracts? Good business sense yes however why would any decent player sign up for this, especially as we are in the very minority inserting such clauses? A decent player is going to be in demand and simply is going to wait to get the most that he can as football careers are very short, those coming to town are coming because their options are very limited elsewhere.

Fenty still pulls all the strings at the club as he’s the only person with serious money on the board. Despite this he does not want to put money in and is happy to take money off us, the supporters via things like the crowd funder, reworded terms and conditions for season tickets that sees no refunds and share issues, yet not put in any himself. If this is wrong Fenty then why don’t you and your Merry board friends come out and tell us how much money you have collectively put into the club so far this year? You won’t because the answer is ZERO, yet the supporters whom many have nothing try to give our club everything in order for it to survive.

Perhaps you could send this to Holloway for him to use when he runs out of excuses and his comedy value finally expires (send it soon as it won't be long) or if you are really keen for Fenty to put some money in (and therefore increase the benign loan that everyone is always knocking him for) perhaps he could give Holloway his alleged £100,000 investment back so he can go quietly.

Quoted from Ipswin

Perhaps you could send this to Holloway for him to use when he runs out of excuses and his comedy value finally expires (send it soon as it won't be long) or if you are really keen for Fenty to put some money in (and therefore increase the benign loan that everyone is always knocking him for) perhaps he could give Holloway his alleged £100,000 investment back so he can go quietly.

That’s if he’s even put this money in, saying and doing are two very different things. Holloway has to stand by the signings that he’s made however I do feel that he has been shackled to a large extent by the Club.

Quoted from GrimRob

It wasn't long ago there was a thread on here about Town getting promoted and now the mood has swing the other way. It's almost certainly too early to say. We've signed a shed load of players, and had no pre-season. These early games basically are our pre-season! We're far from a well oiled machine.

Failure to have a pre season imo is because of penny pinching again .failure to have enough time or players for pre season games is just asking for trouble and that is what we have now . Too many players that are not any where near league standard is olly`s fault, and he should have known better. It looks like the max budget is 1.5 mill , but he has been told to only spend 1 mill or less. we are all suposed to be in the same boat but again we are well behind most clubs at our level. i also think with having a short pre season some players have broken down and got injured trying to push it too far and fast

Quoted from denni266

Failure to have a pre season imo is because of penny pinching again .failure to have enough time or players for pre season games is just asking for trouble and that is what we have now . Too many players that are not any where near league standard is olly`s fault, and he should have known better. It looks like the max budget is 1.5 mill , but he has been told to only spend 1 mill or less. we are all suposed to be in the same boat but again we are well behind most clubs at our level. i also think with having a short pre season some players have broken down and got injured trying to push it too far and fast

We could have just played Cleethorpes six times. It would have been better than what we did!

Well under anthony we won 1-0 last yr

ollie  0-4 ?? anthony 1-0 ??

Quoted from SDUTM

I don’t like Fenty not going to hide that fact and today’s performance underlies my reasons why! He is single handily killing the Club off again and praise over how we are being run in light of COVID are very short sighted.

Pitch: terrible as we did nothing to it during lock down, look at other clubs in our league, their pitches are mint. How many clubs in league 2 closed up shop and did nothing during lockdown? Looking at other clubs on TV we most definitely seem to have the worst pitch.

Signings: have we actually signed anyone on a permanent deal where any of us are looking and thinking decent? Then again how can Holloway sign a decent player with Fenty & Co insisting on COVID clauses in players contracts? Good business sense yes however why would any decent player sign up for this, especially as we are in the very minority inserting such clauses? A decent player is going to be in demand and simply is going to wait to get the most that he can as football careers are very short, those coming to town are coming because their options are very limited elsewhere.

Fenty still pulls all the strings at the club as he’s the only person with serious money on the board. Despite this he does not want to put money in and is happy to take money off us, the supporters via things like the crowd funder, reworded terms and conditions for season tickets that sees no refunds and share issues, yet not put in any himself. If this is wrong Fenty then why don’t you and your Merry board friends come out and tell us how much money you have collectively put into the club so far this year? You won’t because the answer is ZERO, yet the supporters whom many have nothing try to give our club everything in order for it to survive.

Change the f*****g record dredging up the same old same old doesn’t help.

JF and the boys have in the past made some indefensible gaffs but fact that the club has had a drastic cut in income but still isn’t operating in an overdraft would suggest they’ve done the first thing on their job description and protected and safe guarded the football club.

Yeah we could have paid every player 100% of their wages and given Clarke, Chas and everyone else IH was talking to what they demanded but would that have been the right thing to do under the current uncertain times? I’m not convinced TBH. Would we have 6 points from 6 at this stage, who knows.

I thought we where crap today but most clubs at our level only have a first 11 or so, the rest are in selection terms possibles rather than probables and due to injury and players being “not ready” today’s team consisted mainly of possibles.

If you want to criticise someone I think IH made some gaffs today the main one was that he should have used the tiny bit of experience he had available to him rather than leaving it on the bench.

I think we’re going to struggle but it’s too early to say to what extent.

There are plenty of teams local to us. Surely we could have arranged a friendly with Hull, Lincoln, Gainsborough, Boston, Sheffield Utd/Wed, Rotherham, Leeds, Doncaster?

Boston reported that we wanted a friendly with them but they rejected it because they had only just reported back but surely we could have fitted something in a week later?

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

We’re not there yet, we know we’re not. Let’s not over-react, just yet.
I suppose I await the red crosses, do I care?

Two games in and a lot of fans have thrown the towel in.  It's pathetic.  Yeah we need to change things but I think a lot of fans enjoy a season of moaning. If their keeper hadn't made a wonderful save off Green, things could have been different. Ohman's header was a good effort too and the keeper just got his toe to it.  Could have been a different story.  Hewitt didn't seem to care and Taylor was bone idle.  Tilley was beaten psychologically from the get go.  If you don't want to play for the Mariners sodomist off.  Get the players on who want to play and I am sure it will click.

Quoted from Mayaman

Two games in and a lot of fans have thrown the towel in.  It's pathetic.  .

My view as well. Far to early to judge. In football as in life your going to get some misfortune come your way as what happened to us yesterday when some of them penalty's were given against us. Hopefully things start picking up in the next 3 or so games and we get some points on the board.