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Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, September 15, 2020, 11:33am
Did anyone else see the seemingly very short lived news item on Grimsby Live this morning about Limbrick?

I looked online this morning and there was a new news item about him, but apart from the headline stating he has been released from his contract, i didnt read the rest of the item. Ive gone to have a read of it about an hour later and its nowhere to be seen.

It must have only been on there minutes, if not seconds, as there has been no other mention of it anywhere.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, September 15, 2020, 12:25pm; Reply: 1
Someone must have a screenshot surely?
Posted by: psgmariner, September 15, 2020, 1:57pm; Reply: 2
Has he decided to move up here after all?
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, September 15, 2020, 2:31pm; Reply: 3
I reckon the GT have his departure story all written up and ready to run with it, but they posted it by mistake, as when I returned to read it, the headline had been replaced by the one about Chris Doig.
Posted by: Teestogreen, September 19, 2020, 10:59pm; Reply: 4
So who is responsible for coaching / training / fitness of GTFC players? Seems Anthony Limbrick may have left (the day before the new season started) - leaving a void in this area? Hence comments on todays Match Thread alluding to some of Towns players not being up to speed on fitness - (the ones that are forced to play) - others that have been signed may have fitness issues as well and being protected until they are fit.
Perhaps the club will confirm who the coaching / training / fitness team are.
I think a really good exercise for all of the squad would be to run from training ground at Cheapside to the trig point at Brigsley Top at least once a week, with performances being timed by the coaching / training / fitness team in order to monitor improvement / deterioration.  
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, September 20, 2020, 7:11am; Reply: 5
Greg Howard.
Posted by: Meza, September 20, 2020, 9:36am; Reply: 6
and why the do we always seem to have just 1 coach and other teams have 3-4 coaches.

1 x Manager (Buckley), (Jolley)
1 x Assistant (Mann), (Limberick)
1 x Coach (?), (?)
Posted by: pen penfras, September 20, 2020, 11:02am; Reply: 7
Quoted from Meza
and why the do we always seem to have just 1 coach and other teams have 3-4 coaches.

1 x Manager (Buckley), (Jolley)
1 x Assistant (Mann), (Limberick)
1 x Coach (?), (?)


How many teams have 3-4 coaches?

Before Limbrick decided he can't get to work, I think we had:

Manager
Assistant manager
Under 23's coach
YT coach
Physio
Analyst (do we still have one?)
Fitness coach

Crewe got promoted and have the same minus a fitness coach. Carlisle have the same as Crewe. Exeter have a sports therapist, but no analyst. Newport only appear to have a manager and assistant manager.

It's really easy to make blase comments that we do everything on the cheap, but the first 4 clubs I googled, that are often the ones mentioned as doing things better than us, don't seem to have anything more than we do...
Posted by: rancido, September 20, 2020, 11:13am; Reply: 8
Quoted from pen penfras


How many teams have 3-4 coaches?

Before Limbrick decided he can't get to work, I think we had:

Manager
Assistant manager
Under 23's coach
YT coach
Physio
Analyst (do we still have one?)
Fitness coach

Crewe got promoted and have the same minus a fitness coach. Carlisle have the same as Crewe. Exeter have a sports therapist, but no analyst. Newport only appear to have a manager and assistant manager.

It's really easy to make blase comments that we do everything on the cheap, but the first 4 clubs I googled, that are often the ones mentioned as doing things better than us, don't seem to have anything more than we do...


But those are facts - a lot of posters on here prefer theories and conjecture.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, September 20, 2020, 11:43am; Reply: 9
Slade brought an analyst in but Jolley got rid of him because Limbrick could do all of that.

Holloway said the other week that Limbrick was great on the laptop at doing the analysis and he would now have to pick that work up.
Posted by: Ipswin, September 20, 2020, 11:54am; Reply: 10
Quoted from Meza
and why the do we always seem to have just 1 coach and other teams have 3-4 coaches.

1 x Manager (Buckley), (Jolley)
1 x Assistant (Mann), (Limberick)
1 x Coach (?), (?)


Well in my day the coach was Peter Sheffield's

Posted by: Henryscat, September 20, 2020, 11:57am; Reply: 11
Ben Davies anybody?
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, September 20, 2020, 11:58am; Reply: 12
Newport have:

Manager M.Flynn
Assistant Manager Hatswel
GK coach James Holman
Sports scientist Kyle Burns
Fitness coach Connor Neeson
Strength and conditioning coach Patrick Folley
Performance Analyst James Windsor
Physio + Full set of Academy Staff

Basically loads more staff than us.
Posted by: Henryscat, September 20, 2020, 12:04pm; Reply: 13
I think we often overlook the fact our physio is also a coach.
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, September 20, 2020, 12:05pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from pen penfras
It's really easy to make blase comments that we do everything on the cheap, but the first 4 clubs I googled, that are often the ones mentioned as doing things better than us, don't seem to have anything more than we do...


Oh come on, how far do you think you will get on here stating FACTS?

Lets face it, this forum is all about lies, untruths, disinformation, calumniation, aspersions, hyperboles, mendacity, prevarication, mendacities, revilement, subterfuge, vilification and culminating in a whole lot of whoppers.
Posted by: pen penfras, September 20, 2020, 12:18pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner
Newport have:

Manager M.Flynn
Assistant Manager Hatswel
GK coach James Holman
Sports scientist Kyle Burns Not there anymore
Fitness coach Connor Neeson Not there anymore
Strength and conditioning coach Patrick Folley Works for a swim club
Performance Analyst James Windsor
Physio + Full set of Academy Staff

Basically loads more staff than us.


Not according to their own website https://www.newport-county.co.uk/club-1/staff-index/

Googling those names says several of them aren't there. Wasn't even "loads more than us" to start with and 2 of them were there on work placements from what I can tell.



Posted by: ginnywings, September 20, 2020, 12:20pm; Reply: 16


Oh come on, how far do you think you will get on here stating FACTS?

Lets face it, this forum is all about lies, untruths, disinformation, calumniation, aspersions, hyperboles, mendacity, prevarication, mendacities, revilement, subterfuge, vilification and culminating in a whole lot of whoppers.


Thesaurus?
Posted by: WayneBurnettsJockstrap, September 20, 2020, 12:29pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from ginnywings


Thesaurus?


Of course. Its Sunday. My brain doesnt work THAT well on a Sunday
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, September 20, 2020, 12:38pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from pen penfras


Not according to their own website https://www.newport-county.co.uk/club-1/staff-index/

Googling those names says several of them aren't there. Wasn't even "loads more than us" to start with and 2 of them were there on work placements from what I can tell.



Yeah but what you are saying is disingenuous they aren't operating on two senior staff, those you've crossed out have only left in the last couple of months based on their own CVs or still have it down as presently employed alongside other employers such as swim wales.

Based on those numbers last season they had 8 staff with the first team and we had 6, loads more is a bit of an exaggeration, but much less so than claiming it's just the manager and an assistant
Posted by: Henryscat, September 20, 2020, 12:47pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner


Yeah but what you are saying is disingenuous they aren't operating on two senior staff, those you've crossed out have only left in the last couple of months based on their own CVs or still have it down as presently employed alongside other employers such as swim wales.

Based on those numbers last season they had 8 staff with the first team and we had 6, loads more is a bit of an exaggeration, but much less so than claiming it's just the manager and an assistant


But now we’re onto FTE

You realise Greg Howard working 37.5 hours is more than 3 people working 12 hours each in spite of the fact they have 3 members of staff to our 1?
Posted by: pen penfras, September 20, 2020, 12:54pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner


Yeah but what you are saying is disingenuous they aren't operating on two senior staff, those you've crossed out have only left in the last couple of months based on their own CVs or still have it down as presently employed alongside other employers such as swim wales.

Based on those numbers last season they had 8 staff with the first team and we had 6, loads more is a bit of an exaggeration, but much less so than claiming it's just the manager and an assistant


It wasn't disingenuous at all, it was taken from their official club website. Where else was I supposed to look for information about them? And of those 8 that they had, 3 are virtually the same role, where at least one of their linked in pages says they were on a work placement.
Posted by: Henryscat, September 20, 2020, 12:56pm; Reply: 21
Anyway why are we all assuming Limbrick won’t be replaced??
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, September 20, 2020, 12:59pm; Reply: 22
How exactly are they basically the same role they are different specialisms, this kind of thinking is why we have basically been excrement for 20 years.
Posted by: promotion plaice, September 20, 2020, 2:47pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Henryscat
Anyway why are we all assuming Limbrick won’t be replaced??

Doig is available   ;)

Posted by: emisar, September 20, 2020, 2:51pm; Reply: 24
does Doig know he is available.? :-/
Posted by: Garth, September 20, 2020, 2:55pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from emisar
does Doig know he is available.? :-/


Think so, he asked Hursty who said yes and told him to eat his crusts or it will be early to bed with no tea
Posted by: aldi_01, September 20, 2020, 3:13pm; Reply: 26
It’s not really about the numbers of coaches etc but what those people being to the table surely?

You can have 10 coaches but if they all just do the same thing then they’re a waste of money but if one is an analyst, one a GK coach, one a defensive coach, one a fitness coach and so on, they’re all useful.

The same if you only have 3/4 staff, if they can offer more than traditional coaching so to speak then it’s worth having them.

I guess we’ll never actually know what went on or what Limbrick actually did but I’d imagine there are things he did do that aren’t being done.

I don’t think Limbrick was unreasonable in his request and some may argue neither were the club but surely he does need replacing?
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