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Posted by: Abdul19, January 25, 2020, 2:08pm
https://twitter.com/JamieFin_/status/1221071751402217472?s=19
Posted by: PoutonStepover, January 25, 2020, 2:16pm; Reply: 1
That’s a shame, I’d have rather dropped Whitehouse and given Clarke a go in the attacking mid role. A bit like this;


              Clifton               Hess          
                              
                                 Clarke

                     Hanson
Vernam                                      Wright
Posted by: bobbyturtle, January 25, 2020, 2:17pm; Reply: 2
Come on town
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 2:19pm; Reply: 3
Pleased to see Big Jim back in,
Posted by: ginnywings, January 25, 2020, 2:21pm; Reply: 4
What frequency is the commentary on please?
Posted by: Bigdog, January 25, 2020, 2:29pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from ginnywings
What frequency is the commentary on please?


Every three to seven days depending on midweek games Ginny..
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 2:32pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Bigdog


Every three to seven days depending on midweek games Ginny..


😂😂😂😀
Posted by: GYRanger, January 25, 2020, 2:45pm; Reply: 7
The pitch looks terrible. UTMM
Posted by: ginnywings, January 25, 2020, 2:49pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from Bigdog


Every three to seven days depending on midweek games Ginny..


Fair play, made me chuckle, which is good because I am wallpapering the bedroom and I hate decorating.
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 25, 2020, 2:51pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from ginnywings
What frequency is the commentary on please?

I subscribe to iFollow mainly for the away commentaries, can you get all the commentaries on the radio?

If so I'll cancel at the end of the season.

Posted by: golfer, January 25, 2020, 3:02pm; Reply: 10
Digital and Freeview
Posted by: Fishy clapper, January 25, 2020, 3:03pm; Reply: 11
Scunny commentary on Ifollow...
Posted by: devs, January 25, 2020, 3:03pm; Reply: 12
On Mariners Player
Commentary is Scunny
Anyone know why??
Posted by: zorro_is_a_Mariner, January 25, 2020, 3:05pm; Reply: 13
It's on now
Posted by: Grantham_Mariner, January 25, 2020, 3:05pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from devs
On Mariners Player
Commentary is Scunny
Anyone know why??


Because some idiot at Blunderside has put the wrong plug in....


....ok now


Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 3:05pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from devs
On Mariners Player
Commentary is Scunny
Anyone know why??


Snake here...frigging hullberside screwed it up...
Change that, it's on now!!..
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 3:19pm; Reply: 16
Balls
Posted by: BenBB, January 25, 2020, 3:19pm; Reply: 17
sodomist
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 3:20pm; Reply: 18
Soft goal, poor defending....... we just keep giving the ball away
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 3:21pm; Reply: 19
Had to be Ollie Palmer, yet another striker who appears to have flourished having got away from BP
Posted by: bawarmy, January 25, 2020, 3:22pm; Reply: 20
It’s always friggin palmer
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 3:23pm; Reply: 21
Whitehouse with the equaliser
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 3:23pm; Reply: 22
Yes!!!!
Posted by: Abdul19, January 25, 2020, 3:23pm; Reply: 23
Fantastic crossfield ball by Clarke
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 25, 2020, 3:24pm; Reply: 24

Get in, golfer will be pleased   :)
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 3:24pm; Reply: 25
Get in Whitehouse!
Posted by: BenBB, January 25, 2020, 3:25pm; Reply: 26
Yass
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 3:26pm; Reply: 27
Get in. Up yours Ollie! (Palmer that is)
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 3:35pm; Reply: 28
Good goal!!

Chas is looking really dangerous
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 3:35pm; Reply: 29
Thats what he does! Get in Hanson
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 3:35pm; Reply: 30
Yeeeeeeees! He's back!
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 3:36pm; Reply: 31
Get in Hanson!! We've been the better team and we deserve this!
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 25, 2020, 3:37pm; Reply: 32

Get in....Ollie, Ollie, Ollie.

Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 3:37pm; Reply: 33
Vernam nearly makes it 3, great save.
Posted by: cmackenzie4, January 25, 2020, 3:40pm; Reply: 34
C,Mon Town!!
Posted by: bawarmy, January 25, 2020, 3:42pm; Reply: 35
Playing well
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 25, 2020, 3:50pm; Reply: 36

HT...Crawley 1-2 Town   :)
Posted by: BenBB, January 25, 2020, 3:51pm; Reply: 37
Good game so far. Really fun to watch! Let's get this secured!
Posted by: grimsby pete, January 25, 2020, 3:53pm; Reply: 38
Come on town it's there to win
Posted by: TAGG, January 25, 2020, 3:57pm; Reply: 39
Town playing the conditions very well.
All the lads putting in a great shift in a very enjoyable game UTM
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 4:01pm; Reply: 40
Good game to watch this, I was wrooried when they scored first completely against the run of play, had a feeling it was going to be one of those days. So glad I was wrong Town responded well after taking a few minutes to compose themselves again. Some nice pass and move football on one of the worst if not the worst pitches outside of conference football. Refs not been too bad, made a couple of odd choices but not really been forced to make any major decisions.

Disappointing defensive display for Palmers goal, but I'll let Pollock off young man learning is trade still, should of stayed on his feet, but went for the tackle and missed and Palmer was able to drive the ball into the bottom corner. Great goal by Whitehouse for our first against the Keeper at his near post Their keeper made a great first save but wasn't able to do anything for the second. Hansons goal was similar, the keeper made a great save for the first but unable to do anything with the follow up.

Special mention to Whitehouse and CLarke at half time the two of them have been everywhere today.
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, January 25, 2020, 4:02pm; Reply: 41
From the stats looks like we've been dominating and attacking, great stuff
Posted by: mariner91, January 25, 2020, 4:02pm; Reply: 42
Vernam and Clarke really lively, causing problems. Lovely having Hanson back too and I think balls in from Glennon on the left will be very fruitful for us with Hanson in the box.

Midfield still a bit one paced and haven’t closed down particularly well at times but there’s no lack of effort. Come on Town.  
Posted by: devs, January 25, 2020, 4:04pm; Reply: 43
Holloway obviously rates Whitehouse
Had his best game for Town last week IMO
Further forward
He has some craft

Clarke is top notch for L2

Vernam will run all day at defenders

Hanson will score

We are flooding players forward every attack

Positive
Good to watch
Brave
Attacking
Entertaining

Pace on the bench

Looking good
Posted by: Rik e B, January 25, 2020, 4:11pm; Reply: 44
Whitehouse clearly bought into what Holloway trying to bring, his performances gone up a level to what we were all hoping from him originally.
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 25, 2020, 4:12pm; Reply: 45

As it stands we are level on points with Scunny only behind them by one goal.
Posted by: Rik e B, January 25, 2020, 4:16pm; Reply: 46
They'll be blown away in time, they in bother having to cut their cloth back accordingly while we motoring forward.

As for Holloway's stamp on things, I think win lose or draw thing are going to be a lot of fun! Or a roller coaster ride at least depending on how you define fun.  ;D
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 4:18pm; Reply: 47
Nadesan a bit lucky not to get a red then. I think the fact he was so close to Pollock already has saved him from being sent off.
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 4:24pm; Reply: 48
Come on Town. We're starting to get a little complacent
Posted by: Abdul19, January 25, 2020, 4:29pm; Reply: 49
Rubbish defending by someone near the touchline
Posted by: bartgtfc, January 25, 2020, 4:29pm; Reply: 50
2-2 😐
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 4:29pm; Reply: 51
Pissing palmer again
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 4:30pm; Reply: 52
Another goal conceded after f*****g giving the ball away easily !
Posted by: BenBB, January 25, 2020, 4:30pm; Reply: 53
Saw that coming a mile away
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 4:30pm; Reply: 54
Balls! Change in formation has hurt us there. Whatever we did hasn't worked and we've let them in again
Posted by: bawarmy, January 25, 2020, 4:31pm; Reply: 55
He’s a massive bell end is Palmer
Posted by: Chrisblor, January 25, 2020, 4:32pm; Reply: 56
Pollock all over the shop there. Had the chance to foul their player on the break, didn't take it and let him glide past to set Palmer up for the tap in. Needs to learn when to be cynical!
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:33pm; Reply: 57
Quoted from Hagrid
Pissing palmer again


Good striker at this level, wish we still had him

Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 4:34pm; Reply: 58
Quoted from Ipswin


Good striker at this level, wish we still had him



Yeah he’s a good player. But i dont wish we had him.
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:34pm; Reply: 59
Shape change again and it costs us? Didn’t help last week either...
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:35pm; Reply: 60
Quoted from Hagrid


Yeah he’s a good player. But i dont wish we had him.


Looking at our goalscoring record of late he's a damn sight better than anything we've got, swap him for Green, Rose and Cardwell for a start

Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 4:36pm; Reply: 61
Ah flipping hell. Clifton again with the mistake
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 4:37pm; Reply: 62
Quoted from HertsGTFC
Another goal conceded after f*****g giving the ball away easily !


Repeat !

What looked quite promising in the first half has gone to complete rat sh1t
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 4:37pm; Reply: 63
FFS
Posted by: TAGG, January 25, 2020, 4:38pm; Reply: 64
Fallen to bits in the second half  :B
Posted by: bawarmy, January 25, 2020, 4:38pm; Reply: 65
Is Clifton good enough. I don’t think he is
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:38pm; Reply: 66
Quoted from Hagrid
Ah flipping hell. Clifton again with the mistake


Certainly not a reaction to his two recent costly mistakes but he must be brilliant in training because surely his match day performances don’t put him towards the top performers...
Posted by: FrazerGTFC, January 25, 2020, 4:38pm; Reply: 67
Bottled it again
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:39pm; Reply: 68
Quoted from TAGG
Fallen to bits in the second half  :B


Have we changed our shape? Subs and shape change last week made us lose our way...
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:39pm; Reply: 69
So who's going to take the blame this week Holloway again? The players ? or Fenty maybe?

Disappointing as I thought the defence was our wrong point When did we last concede 3?
Posted by: BenBB, January 25, 2020, 4:40pm; Reply: 70
Clifton given away a free-kick now too
Posted by: Chrisblor, January 25, 2020, 4:40pm; Reply: 71
This whole half has been a shambles. Feels like Jolley is still stood on the touchline.
Posted by: Kris2, January 25, 2020, 4:42pm; Reply: 72
Quoted from Ipswin
So who's going to take the blame this week Holloway again? The players ? or Fenty maybe?

Disappointing as I thought the defence was our wrong point When did we last concede 3?


In less games than the last time we scored 2.
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:42pm; Reply: 73
Quoted from Ipswin
So who's going to take the blame this week Holloway again? The players ? or Fenty maybe?

Disappointing as I thought the defence was our wrong point When did we last concede 3?


There’s a whole list of things Fenty can be blamed for but Clifton being bang average isn’t one of them...however, whatever folk think, this week, and last week individual mistakes look like they could cost us along with management tweaking with the side...
Posted by: denni266, January 25, 2020, 4:44pm; Reply: 74
Clifton needs dropping. he has cost us points now in two games up to now. all the hard work going to waste.. i know if we are going to attack more we will not defend as weel but these mistakes has to stop now
Posted by: BenBB, January 25, 2020, 4:44pm; Reply: 75
Gone from playing really well to being absolutely tragic. What's happened?
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 4:45pm; Reply: 76
Missing Davis in the centre of defence...
Not sure why Holloway's persisting with Clifton, thought he'd have brought him off and out Benson on by now..
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:46pm; Reply: 77
Quoted from denni266
Clifton needs dropping. he has cost us points now in two games up to now. all the hard work going to waste.. i know if we are going to attack more we will not defend as weel but these mistakes has to stop now



Of course people will say it’s easy to criticise when he’s made two poor mistakes but in reality my view has always been that had he not been local, folk would’ve wanted him out the side months ago...
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:47pm; Reply: 78
Quoted from Ipswin


Disappointing as I thought the defence was our wrong point When did we last concede 3?


Freudian slip there! ;D

Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:49pm; Reply: 79
Quoted from aldi_01


in reality my view has always been that had he not been local, folk would’ve wanted him out the side months ago...


This, the 'local boy star' has been totally overdone I reckon

Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 4:49pm; Reply: 80
Quoted from Ipswin
So who's going to take the blame this week Holloway again? The players ? or Fenty maybe?

Disappointing as I thought the defence was our wrong point When did we last concede 3?


The players as they can’t seem to pass the fukin ball forward
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:50pm; Reply: 81
Quoted from Ipswin


This, the 'local boy star' has been totally overdone I reckon



Without doubt...
Posted by: denni266, January 25, 2020, 4:51pm; Reply: 82
Guess he wont be geting an ice cream this week
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:52pm; Reply: 83
Anyone got any views on Hessenthaler's performances of late? Has he been as anonymous as it seems?
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 4:53pm; Reply: 84
Quoted from denni266
Guess he wont be geting an ice cream this week


I thought you got an icecream for turning up on time. Clifton always does that sadly having arrived he appears to do little else

Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, January 25, 2020, 4:55pm; Reply: 85
excrement
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 4:55pm; Reply: 86
Poor loss
Posted by: aldi_01, January 25, 2020, 4:55pm; Reply: 87
Poor result given teams around us have picked up points...
Posted by: denni266, January 25, 2020, 4:57pm; Reply: 88
What bugs me is that we bring in  3/4 players that apart from one are just squad players and have had no affect on results, wasted money as far as i am concerned.  i know its still early days for them yet but we need first team players or we go no where , in fact league wise we are going backwards again
Posted by: Gaffer58, January 25, 2020, 5:05pm; Reply: 89
Noticeable that some people on here are starting to have  a slight dig at our messiah Ollie, this in some peoples eyes is an act of treason and will be dealt with in the strongest terms, haven’t you all got on board with “ in Ollie we trust” yet.




Now whatch the red crosses fly in!!!
Posted by: devs, January 25, 2020, 5:06pm; Reply: 90
Holloway's attacking style demands you have players who are good with the ball
Sadly, we have a few who aren't
Hence mistakes are repeated
Ball given away cheaply
He won't change his philosophy which is good
So we will have to find players who are good on the ball

Second half front six were virtually anonymous - but part of that was Crawley grabbed hold of the game
Posted by: Stockport Mariner, January 25, 2020, 5:07pm; Reply: 91
Think this puts to bed any idea that Holloway is going to be some kind of tactical genius. Not sure why though for Crawleys 2nd goal Hendrie and Glennon were so far up the pitch. Hendrie was on the edge of their box and Glennon was trying to cross from the byline. Left us totally exposed. If you’re chasing a goal fair enough, but we weren’t.
Posted by: Madeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 5:07pm; Reply: 92
Vernam and Clarke totally  disappeared 2nd half, Creepies were faster, stronger and at the end looked fitter than most of our team. So disappointed after a great 1st half display that we totally lost our shape in the 2nd. Palmer and Nadeson showed how to work as an attacking force with Palmer especially using his experience of knowing when to fall over if he didnt win his headers. We were stretched all over the place, midfield crumbled and then when its 2-2 Clifton decides to repeat last weeks fail to kick a ball 5 yards and presents them with the winner. Had chances at the end but no lucky deflections on 3 shots blocked close range in 6 yrd box, We need some of Ollies missus white magic to lift this curse we seem to have. Still rather see us lose 3-2 than 1-0 at least there was some entertainment. UTMM  :o :o :o :o :o
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 25, 2020, 5:10pm; Reply: 93
We get in some great positions but a mix of endless passing backwards or poor delivery is really frustrating

When they scored their 2nd you’d think we where the ones chasing the game
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 5:11pm; Reply: 94
Quoted from Ipswin
Anyone got any views on Hessenthaler's performances of late? Has he been as anonymous as it seems?


I've thought the same, I said last week he had a poor game and this week he just didn't seem to be in the game.
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, January 25, 2020, 5:12pm; Reply: 95
After what was a brilliant first half the second was such a let down. Their changes worked our didn't even get close. They looked stronger and fitter, they moved the ball quicker and we just looked like we were on the back foot most of the 45.
Posted by: Marinerz93, January 25, 2020, 5:15pm; Reply: 96
A bit of a rollercoaster of a game, we are going to be a work in progress until Olley fully assesses who he will wants to keep for next season. Several players with wayward passes and giving the ball away too cheaply and not enough pressing cost us today.

A few of them will certainly need to up their game, especially on 2nd half showing. I don't see this side troubling the play off's this season and I think at least half the first team will be moved on if they don't start performing at least the basics of passing to their own players, still too many balls lumped forward we don't win and not enough play on the wing.

You could argue that on another day we could have of made it 3-3 but I feel today we were beaten by a side who wanted it more and used guile to win it, albeit with slightly better players.
Posted by: mariner91, January 25, 2020, 5:25pm; Reply: 97
We have a squad that is lacking in pace, athleticism and strength. It is very one paced, particularly through the middle. The performances are far better than under Jolley but until we sort out the physical shortcomings we are likely to be our competed.

Agree with those saying Clifton isn’t good enough. He’s just not good enough on the ball. If he wasn’t local people would be questioning why he starts. Also thought Ohman looked clumsy all game, still not sure why some seem to rate him so highly. And Pollock needs to learn from today’s game, should have played smarter against their athletic and physical front line. Also should have wiped out number 10 on the halfway line when they countered to equalise. He’s young, he’ll make mistakes I accept that.

Front six missing after 60 minutes and that needs addressing or subs making earlier. Wright made an impact just by upping the intensity.
Posted by: Roast Em Bobby, January 25, 2020, 5:26pm; Reply: 98
I never realised just how slow Pollock is, until today. If we are going to throw more men forward, we need a fast centre back.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, January 25, 2020, 5:27pm; Reply: 99


I've thought the same, I said last week he had a poor game and this week he just didn't seem to be in the game.


Maybe he suited the Jolley style but not the Ollie style. We seem to be playing more attacking football which suits Whitehouse as a box to box player which isn’t necessarily Hess’s strength.
Posted by: mariner91, January 25, 2020, 5:29pm; Reply: 100
Hess is being played further forward. It’s not his game, he’s a water carrier who is good at ticking things over and breaking up play but isn’t particularly creative. The stats for his career thus far show that. By playing Clifton in front of the back four we’ve weakened ourselves in that position as Hess is better and we’ve made Hess perform worse.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 5:32pm; Reply: 101
From what I've heard so far Benson needs to up his game, thought he'd be an improvement on Robson but so far he isn't..
Time to give Tilley a start, put Clifton on the bench and get Waterfall back in the defence.
We all knew this would be work in progress and it will take time..
Concerns me that Vernham keeps going missing in the second half of games though, whether it's him or he's not getting the ball I'm not sure, but he's by far our most dangerous man running forward with the ball.
Posted by: devs, January 25, 2020, 5:35pm; Reply: 102
Quoted from HertsGTFC
We get in some great positions but a mix of endless passing backwards or poor delivery is really frustrating

When they scored their 2nd you’d think we where the ones chasing the game


Agree with this
We just need to improve and be better with the ball
Ollie plays attacking footy
We will commit players
We will get caught out
Need to score more when on top
Better end product
Better quality
Better decision making


Posted by: golfer, January 25, 2020, 5:35pm; Reply: 103
I'd rest Clifton and give Hewitt a chance-at least he can kick a ball where he intends AND take a long throw-especially useful now Hanson's back AND feed the winger with through balls . A lot of players were suppressed from their natural game by Jolly.
Posted by: Hagrid, January 25, 2020, 5:41pm; Reply: 104
By all accounts pollock was shattered after 70 mins so would imagine we’ll see waterfall back in.
Posted by: mariner91, January 25, 2020, 5:44pm; Reply: 105
Quoted from Northbank Mariner
From what I've heard so far Benson needs to up his game, thought he'd be an improvement on Robson but so far he isn't..
Time to give Tilley a start, put Clifton on the bench and get Waterfall back in the defence.
We all knew this would be work in progress and it will take time..
Concerns me that Vernham keeps going missing in the second half of games though, whether it's him or he's not getting the ball I'm not sure, but he's by far our most dangerous man running forward with the ball.


I agree, Benson should have done so much more in the 5 minutes he played today. Ffs get a grip.
Posted by: livosnose, January 25, 2020, 5:44pm; Reply: 106
Quoted from Hagrid
By all accounts pollock was shattered after 70 mins so would imagine we’ll see waterfall back in.


Think that was one of the major problems today , fitness.
Posted by: bawarmy, January 25, 2020, 5:46pm; Reply: 107
Gutted after that second half. I couldn’t see us losing that at half time, it was more a case of how many are we going to get
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 5:48pm; Reply: 108
Quoted from mariner91


I agree, Benson should have done so much more in the 5 minutes he played today. Ffs get a grip.


Don't be a male private...so far he's managed 30 minutes, he's lost the ball nearly every time he's had it, managed one pass to one of his own players...so, as far as I can see he's not an upgrade on Robson, he may prove to be and I hope he is, but I've not seen enough to say he will be..
Posted by: Abdul19, January 25, 2020, 5:50pm; Reply: 109
Why did you think Benson would be an upgrade on Robson out of interest? Never played senior football before a week ago.
Posted by: TAGG, January 25, 2020, 5:52pm; Reply: 110
Quoted from denni266
Clifton needs dropping. he has cost us points now in two games up to now. all the hard work going to waste.. i know if we are going to attack more we will not defend as weel but these mistakes has to stop now


Like all the lads Clifton was spot on in the first half, it was when he was moved further forward and we tried playing with more width in the second half things went wrong.
Clifton was swamped in the position he was playing.
The second half performance was down to the manager for changing things around when he didnt need to.
Posted by: toontown, January 25, 2020, 5:53pm; Reply: 111
I agree that Hess has been one who's performances have suffered under Ollie. He is an amazing breaker up of oppo play but very one paced and uncreative on the ball, his preference is usually to go sideways or backwards. I don't think that is how Ollie wants him to play.

In the middle with Clifton white house and Hess we have loads of energy and determination but little creativity, and only Clifton is not slow. Under Ollie white house has blossomed somewhat tho, as he is probably the most natural attacking midfielder of the trio.
Posted by: mariner91, January 25, 2020, 5:53pm; Reply: 112
Quoted from Northbank Mariner


Don't be a male private...so far he's managed 30 minutes, he's lost the ball nearly every time he's had it, managed one pass to one of his own players...so, as far as I can see he's not an upgrade on Robson, he may prove to be and I hope he is, but I've not seen enough to say he will be..


He’s barely turned 20, has barely played competitive football before and has managed 30 minutes off the bench both times when we’re chasing the game. But yeah, go ahead and judge him on that.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 5:57pm; Reply: 113
Quoted from Abdul19
Why did you think Benson would be an upgrade on Robson out of interest? Never played senior football before a week ago.


I never said he would be, but he's been brought in to play a similar role so he's either got to prove he's as good or better than Robson..and knowing Robson is now available to come back we may have slipped up there...time will tell..
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 6:00pm; Reply: 114
Quoted from Gaffer58
, haven’t you all got on board with “ in Ollie we trust” yet.



I think there are still a lot of people who got on board with 'in Jolley we trust' so their committment is perhaps understandable

Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 25, 2020, 6:02pm; Reply: 115
Quoted from mariner91


He’s barely turned 20, has barely played competitive football before and has managed 30 minutes off the bench both times when we’re chasing the game. But yeah, go ahead and judge him on that.


So why sign him then?...waste of a wage with that attitude..not sure Robson had anymore experience than Benson and as I said to Abdul, with Robson now being available I think we may have been to quick to bring in a replacement.
We don't have time to bring in loan players that aren't ready for first team football, no point in trying to blood someone else's player, would rather bring one of our through if that's the case
Posted by: Ipswin, January 25, 2020, 6:04pm; Reply: 116
Quoted from Northbank Mariner


no point in trying to blood someone else's player, would rather bring one of our through if that's the case


That is an extremely good point

Posted by: monkeyboy, January 25, 2020, 6:14pm; Reply: 117
Don’t get ohman being criticised? Think our defence as a whole is very good. It’s our midfield that is weak. Whitehouse, Hewitt and Clifton not good enough. Hess reasonable.
Our mid really is pretty dire
Posted by: Abdul19, January 25, 2020, 6:26pm; Reply: 118
Benson could be ready for first team football, hard to tell from 18 minutes. I hope so, we shall see!

Re experience, Robson played 13 games in the SPL last season so had a bit more.
Posted by: toontown, January 25, 2020, 6:33pm; Reply: 119
Quoted from Northbank Mariner


I never said he would be, but he's been brought in to play a similar role so he's either got to prove he's as good or better than Robson..and knowing Robson is now available to come back we may have slipped up there...time will tell..


I think the comments made by Ollie in the Friday gathering were pretty telling on that score - seemed Gibson and Robson agents had demanded fees were paid if they did not feature each week. Had jolley's trousers down and shafted him basically. Ollie is not willing to put up with that and told the new players agents to do one when they asked for it and the players wanted to come regardless.

Jolley, and probably any or our managers  sinve getting back into the league, have not had the status to resist those sort of demands. Ollie does.

Answers a question of mi e actually, when Gibson was first featuring regularly I had asked if loan contracts could stipulate we had to pay his wages if we didn't play him. I thought he was a downgrade on Hendrie on the left so wondered if that was the reason we played him instead. To be fair he developed into a steady defensive full back but was never any more than  mediocre goin forward. Quite Possibly these fees influenced him getting the nod.
Posted by: Garth, January 25, 2020, 6:44pm; Reply: 120
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By all accounts pollock was shattered after 70 mins so would imagine we’ll see waterfall back in.


He was lucky not to be seriously injured when he got poleaxed, seemed to be carrying a knock after that tbf
Posted by: Maringer, January 25, 2020, 7:06pm; Reply: 121
A bit of physicality in midfield is certainly one thing we have lost since Robson left he was an athletic six-footer who really began to get stuck in and make a difference the midfield area during his last few weeks at the club. With the best will in the world, Hessenthaler, Clifton and Whitehouse aren't equipped to put themselves about in the same way, not that any of them are lacking in effort.

Didn't go today but it sounds as though we are getting punished when we make even relatively minor mistakes. On another day, we might have got away with one or two of them. With a more expansive style of play, we're going to make more errors. We just need to make sure we bag enough goals to make up for some of these and also, if possible, tighten up a bit more at the back as well.
Posted by: fishcake63, January 26, 2020, 7:24am; Reply: 122
i'v been banging the drum for ages waterfall & davis are our best centre back pairing , any team in our league would struggle without 1 never mind both of them , would like to see them back nxt week
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 26, 2020, 7:36am; Reply: 123
Just watched the highlights, Pollock needs to get a bit more streetwise for me, he's got a massive future there's no doubting that but he looked leggy and their lad left him for dead.
And I'm not sure putting Clifton in front of the back 4 works either, he's not as composed on the ball das Hessenthailer and we do need a midfielder who can control the game better.
All in all we appear to be getting forward quicker and at least taking shots now, where as under Jolley all the players seemed scared to take a pot shot and we tried to walk it into the net.
If you watch Glennon at full-time his heads in hands, definitely can see this team want to win and play for the gaffer.
On to Tuesday and would love to see a "front foot" approach and some goals...
Posted by: Hagrid, January 26, 2020, 7:53am; Reply: 124
Yep pollock has to be more streetwise for the 2nd. Take the yellow bring him down. But he’s 18 years old he will make mistakes.
Posted by: toontown, January 26, 2020, 10:18am; Reply: 125
Quoted from Northbank Mariner
Just watched the highlights, Pollock needs to get a bit more streetwise for me, he's got a massive future there's no doubting that but he looked leggy and their lad left him for dead.
And I'm not sure putting Clifton in front of the back 4 works either, he's not as composed on the ball das Hessenthailer and we do need a midfielder who can control the game better.
All in all we appear to be getting forward quicker and at least taking shots now, where as under Jolley all the players seemed scared to take a pot shot and we tried to walk it into the net.
If you watch Glennon at full-time his heads in hands, definitely can see this team want to win and play for the gaffer.
On to Tuesday and would love to see a "front foot" approach and some goals...


I suspect what u say about Hess no longer being in front of the back 4 and us getting the ball forward quicker are related to be honest so it's swings and roundabouts. Getting the ball forward, and especially getting it forward quickly is not Hess's game.
Posted by: OllieGTFC, January 27, 2020, 6:54pm; Reply: 126
Honestly I’ll probably get slated for this I don’t rate Harry Clifton at all am sorry to say it but I really don’t
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 27, 2020, 7:22pm; Reply: 127
Quoted from OllieGTFC
Honestly I’ll probably get slated for this I don’t rate Harry Clifton at all am sorry to say it but I really don’t


Surprised to see the manager expressing his opinions on this forum 😄
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