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Quoted from marinerdazza

Can I ask why?

It's obvious isn't it... Out of the candidates posted he is by far the least experienced in the managers hotseat, BUT has an historic link with Town so he must be great!

We'll get what we're given....

True.

But I'd like Tisdale, tried and trusted playing exciting attacking football.

Whether someone 'knows the club' doesn't come close to someone with a proven track record, I just don't get it why it's always favoured.

There may be occasion during a crisis of lack of identity such a person fits the bell, especially if couple with them having success on their fledging career, but for sentiments sake no.

Kevin Nolan favourite because he 'prefers teams in black and white', apparently...

[url]https://www.nufcblog.com/2019/11/17/ex-magpie-tipped-to-take-over-at-grimsby-town/[/url]

Best get in there before Sarri gets the boot

Quoted from Ipswin

Out of that selection Robbie Stockdale please

With Disley as assistant perhaps?

I never understand this fascination with former players coming back.

None of the above TBH....

Limbrick - 50% of the problem
Stockdale - Specifically why?
Nolan - If he was any good he'd already be working
Tisdale - Doubt he'd come
Holloway - Apart from his time at Blackpool why?
Kewell - See point about Nolan
AN Other - most likely someone who's cheap

All I would add is that I hope we don't fanny around as there is a lot to do on the pitch and we have a lot of games to catch up on.

I'd like Paul Heckingbottom

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

We'll get what we're given....

True, but Michael Jolley was very much the favourite choice on here before he got the job and a popular appointment.
This time there's no name standing out. I've voted for Holloway as he could bring a bit of fun back to Blundell Park.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

None of the above TBH....

Limbrick - 50% of the problem
Stockdale - Specifically why?
Nolan - If he was any good he'd already be working
Tisdale - Doubt he'd come
Holloway - Apart from his time at Blackpool why?
Kewell - See point about Nolan
AN Other - most likely someone who's cheap

All I would add is that I hope we don't fanny around as there is a lot to do on the pitch and we have a lot of games to catch up on.

A more progressive list would probably omit Tisdale (location), Holloway (level/age), Kewell (location) and might include..

Heckingbottom (ex-Hibs)
Ian Evatt (Barrow)
Ian Culverhouse (Kings Lynn)
Steve Watson (York)
Pete Wild (Halifax)

Yeah Holloway would be great. Not achieved anything in years but after defeats he'd go on about 'getting birds in taxis' or Brexit or something. Hilarious.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Yeah Holloway would be great. Not achieved anything in years but after defeats he'd go on about 'getting birds in taxis' or Brexit or something. Hilarious.

Not for any of those reasons but his time has been and gone. Forget ex-players as well.

I might be inclined to try Ian Culverhouse, he has experience of playing and coaching at all levels and has done well at Kings Lynn.

One of the non-league managers. Heckingbottom is on a downward trajectory. He was a disaster at Hibs.

Quoted from marinerdazza

One of the non-league managers. Heckingbottom is on a downward trajectory. He was a disaster at Hibs.

Indeed he is, he has only done relatively well for one short time and that was at Barnsley. At Leeds and Hibs he was pretty hopeless. He's another of the "good coach but not a manager" crowd.

Quoted from pizzzza

With Disley as assistant perhaps?

I never understand this fascination with former players coming back.

My selection of Stockdale has nowt to do with him being a past player (if I had my choice for past players to manage Town I'd have Matt Tees as manager and Charlie Wright as his assistant) it is purely because he has at least some experience in coaching / managing without having been around the block a dozen times like all the old out of work hacks that will no doubt be lining up. We can't risk another disaster with a totally unknown 'I talk a good job and I've got a top coaching licence' like Jolley or an old dosser like Slade. Stockdale fits the bill for me

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I might be inclined to try Ian Culverhouse, he has experience of playing and coaching at all levels and has done well at Kings Lynn.

He'll be useful when we are back in non-league then

Quoted from Ipswin

He'll be useful when we are back in non-league then

Interested to see why you are not calling for Heckingbottom bottom swin? Even as a second choice. I thought he was your preferred option last time?

Quoted from Posh Harry

Interested to see why you are not calling for Heckingbottom bottom swin? Even as a second choice. I thought he was your preferred option last time?

I don't recall who I wanted instead of Jolley (just about everybody I think) but I don't recall going for Heckingbottom (wasn't he at Barnsley or Leeds at that time?) No doubt some bright sodomist will find my post and maybe prove me wrong tho'

It won't be Nolan or tisdale imho

Here’s one for those obsessed with ex town players. Danny Butterfield has apparently applied for the role.

Had been a coach under Tidsdale at MK Dons but left when Tidsdale got the bullet so makes sense he'd be after a job.

Jolley is 12/1 for the orient job

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Jolley is 12/1 for the orient job

Their wingers must be shi tting themselves. ;D

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Jolley is 12/1 for the orient job

Well the Orient have very recent experience of the sort of side Jolley can put out and his tactics, plus of course if anyone on their staff had particularly sharp hearing they may have overheard his ability to handle the local press

I would be interested in Danny Butterfield.

Had a good few years coaching, and played at a high level, and local lad.

Ex players have to start somewhere, look at Ryan Lowe, and Gareth Ainsworth.

Would rather someone like him, than a tried manger on the usual merry go round

To be fair, 4 of our last 5 appointments have been non-merry-go-rounders

Quoted from Ipswin

My selection of Stockdale has nowt to do with him being a past player (if I had my choice for past players to manage Town I'd have Matt Tees as manager and Charlie Wright as his assistant) it is purely because he has at least some experience in coaching / managing without having been around the block a dozen times like all the old out of work hacks that will no doubt be lining up. We can't risk another disaster with a totally unknown 'I talk a good job and I've got a top coaching licence' like Jolley or an old dosser like Slade. Stockdale fits the bill for me

This. There must be a reason Sunderland were always happy to give him the reins whenever they sacked a Manager. Young hungry up and coming manager (hopefully).

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

This. There must be a reason Sunderland were always happy to give him the reins whenever they sacked a Manager. Young hungry up and coming manager (hopefully).

I have nothing to say for or against Mr Stockdale but, believe me, being given the reins to do anything at Sunderland is no recommendation. The way we've been run for the last several years was evident from the recent Netflix series. The staff at the training ground restaurant seemed canny though; the football side of things not so much, actually not at all really.
He did have the good sense to get out when the Hibs opportunity arose so he might be ready for a manager's post. As we all know it's very hard to tell how good a novice manager will be until he's doing the job. Rather him than Kevin Nolan certainly.

Apparently Danny Butterfield has applied for the post?

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Apparently Danny Butterfield has applied for the post?

Given that supposedly there are 30+ applicants I expect that there will be allsorts of random names in there. How many of those are realistic contenders? Probably less than a handful.

current odds on Skybet. Some interesting ones. I see Chris Hargreaves on the list, but he hasn't managed for a while only punditry. Tisdale, Stockdale or Tim Flowers.

Kevin Nolan
1/1
Anthony Limbrick
2/1
Robbie Stockdale
9/1
Chris Hargreaves
10/1
Paul Tisdale
12/1
Danny Butterfield
14/1
Paul Wilkinson
16/1
Robbie Fowler
16/1
Tim Flowers
16/1
Craig Elliott
20/1
John McDermott
20/1
Russell Slade
20/1
Andy Welsh
25/1
Craig Disley
25/1
Ian Holloway
25/1
Paul Heckingbottom
25/1
Phil Brown
25/1
Russ Wilcox
25/1
Steve Watson
25/1
David Healy
33/1
Harry Kewell
33/1
Nigel Adkins
33/1
Paul Groves
33/1
Pete Wild
33/1
Brian Laws
40/1
Chris Lucketti
40/1
Danny Collins
40/1
Dave Smith
40/1
Lee Clark
40/1
Neil McDonald
40/1
Neil Redfearn
40/1
Richard Money
40/1
Shaun Derry
40/1
Steve Lovell
40/1
Stuart McCall
40/1
Terry McPhillips
40/1

Quoted from pizzzza

Given that supposedly there are 30+ applicants I expect that there will be allsorts of random names in there. How many of those are realistic contenders? Probably less than a handful.

No doubt there'll be at least 20 'Football Manager' applicants, all of who think that they're the first to think of such a bantzy jape.

Quoted from Abdul19

No doubt there'll be at least 20 'Football Manager' applicants, all of who think that they're the first to think of such a bantzy jape.

Bet they’re all career students as well 🔫

There are about 36 names on that manager odds list. I wonder how many of them have actually applied for the job (less than a quarter, I'd say).

Also, there's some awful value on those odds. Why on earth would you bet on Nolan at evens?! I doubt anyone's been interviewed yet.

An interesting write up on Nolan and the Grimsby manager job...

[url]https://www.thesackrace.com/news/18th-november-2019/what-could-kevin-nolan-bring-to-grimsby-town[/url]

Hasn't there been an alleged similarity between Nolan and Mike Newell in the past? If so it would be madness for us to even consider him.

It'll Limbrick won't it... We've got history of promoting one of a duo who does a reasonable job after freeing the shackles of his overbearing partner.

Quoted from MarinerMal

An interesting write up on Nolan and the Grimsby manager job...

[url]https://www.thesackrace.com/news/18th-november-2019/what-could-kevin-nolan-bring-to-grimsby-town[/url]

If you scroll down to the bottom of the article there is a link to an interesting interview with Harry kewell. Hadnt realised that the nott s county period wasnt quite the disaster it might appear. If you look at the teams they lost to, it was all the high fliers,and he put together quite an unbeaten run, hauling them away from the drop spots. Certainly would be more interested in him than nolan

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Hasn't there been an alleged similarity between Nolan and Mike Newell in the past? If so it would be madness for us to even consider him.

Yep potentially a great appointment for local publicans.

Quoted from Biccys

It'll Limbrick won't it... We've got history of promoting one of a duo who does a reasonable job after freeing the shackles of his overbearing partner.

Hurst wasn't really a "deputy" was he?

I want Limbrick to do well. But the last two deputies we trialled were Wilkinson and Watkiss, and they were both awful. So I'm managing my expectations at the moment and will see what the next two games bring. I think we'll know which way it's going to go when the line up is announced tomorrow.

Quoted from forza ivano

If you scroll down to the bottom of the article there is a link to an interesting interview with Harry kewell. Hadnt realised that the nott s county period wasnt quite the disaster it might appear. If you look at the teams they lost to, it was all the high fliers,and he put together quite an unbeaten run, hauling them away from the drop spots. Certainly would be more interested in him than nolan

He also did ok at Crawley despite everyone assuming he would be an instant failure (myself included). What struck me was his opinion that going into non league or L2 is the perfect place to start your career. He is obviously not afraid of grafting at a low level to become a better manager. Also he gets his sides playing attacking football.

Notts County with their crackpot owner in charge were doomed no matter who was in the hotseat.

Quoted from forza ivano

If you scroll down to the bottom of the article there is a link to an interesting interview with Harry kewell. Hadnt realised that the nott s county period wasnt quite the disaster it might appear. If you look at the teams they lost to, it was all the high fliers,and he put together quite an unbeaten run, hauling them away from the drop spots. Certainly would be more interested in him than nolan

We could have an all Australian management team. 8)

Of all the people linked so far, it’s Kewell by a mile for me

Quoted from grimsby pete

We could have an all Australian management team. 8)

Stuff all crook with that cobber 🦘

Quoted from jimgtfc

Of all the people linked so far, it’s Kewell by a mile for me

Could sort out the lack of a decent left winger problem too.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Could sort out the lack of a decent left winger problem too.

Not if he is still as "injury" prone as he was in his playing days!

Kewell's Crawley side played very good passing football when they came here a couple of years ago.

Ended 0-0 but i remember being surprised at how good they were in possession, and whilst a little toothless up top, were very expansive and fluid in the way they played.

Quoted from Tommy

Kewell's Crawley side played very good passing football when they came here a couple of years ago.

Ended 0-0 but i remember being surprised at how good they were in possession, and whilst a little toothless up top, were very expansive and fluid in the way they played.

....a good interview and some insight into Kewell here >

https://www.thesackrace.com/news/24th-october-2019/exclusive-harry-kewell-opens-up-about-notts-county-crawley-town-lee-bowyer-and-his-next-step-in-management

https://t.co/8F2mMMPfCN?amp=1

Not for me Clive...

Not that it will happen, but I’d like us to try and poach the Cheltenham manager

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

It's obvious isn't it... Out of the candidates posted he is by far the least experienced in the managers hotseat, BUT has an historic link with Town so he must be great!

No, knowing Swin it’ll be because it gives him a good opportunity to moan. ‘Never managed a club. Only chosen via he played and coached here briefly.’

Quoted from Tommy

....a good interview and some insight into Kewell here >

https://www.thesackrace.com/news/24th-october-2019/exclusive-harry-kewell-opens-up-about-notts-county-crawley-town-lee-bowyer-and-his-next-step-in-management

He comes across very well in that interview and his brief spells at Crawley and Notts Co weren't failures; I was astonished when Hardy sacked him and I've little doubt he'd have kept them up. Even in the bizarre world of football Hardy's ownership was on another plane.
Certainly he's a better prospect than Nolan and wouldn't be one of the usual suspects; there were some frightening faces on that betting list someone put up earlier.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

No, knowing Swin it’ll be because it gives him a good opportunity to moan. ‘Never managed a club. Only chosen via he played and coached here briefly.’

I have already explained that my first choice has absolutely intercourse all to do with the fact that he has played for Town. He has managed (albeit briefly) at a club much larger and at a higher level than Town.

I will moan if another wet-behind-the ears-thinks-he-can-be-a-manager-because-he's-run-a-Sunday-morning-team, sports a collar and tie (but no razor) and talks a good CV cons Fenty again.

And after I've moaned I'll be able to say 'I told you so' again

intercourse, now we’ve got spurs as competition

Quoted from Ipswin

I have already explained that my first choice has absolutely intercourse all to do with the fact that he has played for Town. He has managed (albeit briefly) at a club much larger and at a higher level than Town.

I will moan if another wet-behind-the ears-thinks-he-can-be-a-manager-because-he's-run-a-Sunday-morning-team, sports a collar and tie (but no razor) and talks a good CV cons Fenty again.

And after I've moaned I'll be able to say 'I told you so' again

As only 4 out of 24 managers can be classed as successfull in this league ( success being classed as promotion ) then statistically you have an 83.3% chance of being able to moan about the next manager - enjoy yourself.

Yep, no chance of Mourinho now!

Dave jones and Danny Wilson spotted at the reserves game apparently.

Don't know if it's people from the music industry or football managers though

Quoted from Squinter

As only 4 out of 24 managers can be classed as successfull in this league ( success being classed as promotion ) then statistically you have an 83.3% chance of being able to moan about the next manager - enjoy yourself.

As many have already pointed out long before you that, with the possible exception of a few non league inexperienced managers (please God not again) all the likely applicants will be out of work because they have been sacked elsewhere and if the new manager is as shite as the last few surely everyone should be moaning if they care about Town.

I am willing to give most applicants a fair go (I thought Newell was a brilliant appointment FFS) but it was clear to me from day one that, far from being the dogs balderdash many thought, Jolley was a mistake. I take no pride in it, in fact I wish Jolley had been a success for the sake of the club but he just didn't have it and that was clear to me from the outset. A brave but flawed choice.

I don't feel Jolley was a mistake at all, whilst improvement was not spectacular, he did leave the club in a better position than he found it

I think it has been suggested on here previously that the decision on who we appoint as the new permanent manager should not only be down to the board but should also include people with some football nous, Buckley and Swin spring to mind.

Hopefully Anthony, Ben and Mooro achieve success in the short term. Just watched Ben’s interview and he’s such a likeable guy, you’d hate him to fail.

Quoted from promotion plaice

I think it has been suggested on here previously that the decision on who we appoint as the new permanent manager should not only be down to the board but should also include people with some football nous, Buckley and Swin spring to mind.

Not sure about Buckley.

Quoted from Ipswin

As many have already pointed out long before you that, with the possible exception of a few non league inexperienced managers (please God not again) all the likely applicants will be out of work because they have been sacked elsewhere and if the new manager is as shite as the last few surely everyone should be moaning if they care about Town.

I am willing to give most applicants a fair go (I thought Newell was a brilliant appointment FFS) but it was clear to me from day one that, far from being the dogs balderdash many thought, Jolley was a mistake. I take no pride in it, in fact I wish Jolley had been a success for the sake of the club but he just didn't have it and that was clear to me from the outset. A brave but flawed choice.

He didn't fail from the outset tho. He was successful at first in turning us around from the doomed outfit we had been under spade and wilko. No progress after that in terms of results but definitely an improved squad. Right decision to get rid now tho

What would town fans think of Nathan Jones. Did a great job at Luton. Not so at Stoke though?

Jones had a much bigger budget and the whole of London area to pick up players from. Whether he could do the same around these parts is unknown, but every manager is an unknown when they get the gig. :-/

Quoted from ginnywings

Jones had a much bigger budget and the whole of London area to pick up players from. Whether he could do the same around these parts is unknown, but every manager is an unknown when they get the gig. :-/

Watching and listening to Jones interviews in his last months at Stoke showed a man on the edge of breakdown. The poor fellow needs a lengthy period of rest and recuperation before he enters the mad world of football management again. When he does return a coaching role behind the main man might be a better option than being an actual manager.

Has Terry McPhillips been mentioned?

As mentioned earlier nearly every manager has a failure on their cv somewhere, there's probably only Fergie and Wenger, who was not achieving much in his last couple of seasons, who could be classed as successful, even Mourinho had ex number of sackings to his name. So basically every club looking for a new manager from the premiership down to our level are going to appoint a failure.
On that basis I hope the current 3 amigos make a success of the next 3/4 games and get the job full time, thus saving us having to payout any compensation.

There's a new favourite. ;D

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Think if Anthony gets a good result in next three games he will be given a shot until January at least.
There is probably some sounding out going on at the moment externally but unless someone outstanding emerges we might as well give it a go with the interim management team .

If we screw up next three we will need some quick stability from outside.

I remember when Rob Scott went... I think most of us presumed that Paul Hurst would follow, especially as we drew 0-0 at home and then lost 4-0 at Halifax on the Tuesday.

I know it was slightly different, as they were joint managers, while MJ and ML were the more traditional manager and assistant, but as long as we don't lose the next two or three league games in a row I can see us biding our time and giving ML the chance to lead us until Jan.

Quoted from RichMariner

I remember when Rob Scott went... I think most of us presumed that Paul Hurst would follow, especially as we drew 0-0 at home and then lost 4-0 at Halifax on the Tuesday.

I know it was slightly different, as they were joint managers, while MJ and ML were the more traditional manager and assistant, but as long as we don't lose the next two or three league games in a row I can see us biding our time and giving ML the chance to lead us until Jan.

Who the hecks ML Rich?...do you know something we don't??😂🤭