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Zero width in that team. I guess it is lump it to Hanson today. Glad I decided not to make the 2000 mile round trip to lovely Stevenage!

Sorry guys my Brother only lives round the corner and has joined us today, I can't remeber the last time he saw us draw nevermind win so the odds don't look good  ;D ;D ;D

Despite this being our “local” game can’t go today as away in the sun, but listening on RH where the summariser is Sophie Barton the GTFC ladies captain which is a good thing for RH and the club too I reckon.

Also listened to an interview with that bell chopper Peter Swann who made the following comment with regard to their ground development “who else has 4,000 people turn up on a Saturday”? He clearly doesn’t do numbers very well does he?

No Gibson the big surprise to me thought he had been playing well whilst Hendrie’s form not at its best. Oh well let’s see what the result is before saying too much.

Arsen

excrement defending again.

Giving the opposition a goal start again   :-/

1-0 Stevenage 🤭

Usual defensive balderdash. Sat far too deep, stabding off them letting them cross the ball. Great backheel for the goal. Macca had no hope.

What has Vernam done wrong. Completely lacking width and whitehouse playing on the left.

Listening to this is hard work, we're playing the league's bottom feeder and they are tearing us apart...Jolley tinkering again, Gibson should have stated for Hewitt...

This had been crap do far.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

What has Vernam done wrong. Completely lacking width and whitehouse playing on the left.

He had a chance to force his way in at Sunderland ....did he take it ?

Can someone please explain why you rest Gibson on Tuesday and then leave him out on the Saturday? Confused.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

What has Vernam done wrong. Completely lacking width and whitehouse playing on the left.

Whitehouse is just a poor man's Hessenthaler. He offers nothing playing out wide in a 4 man midfield. We'd be far better off with Vernam on the wing today (and even better with more than one, currently injured, natural winger in the squad)

Sounds like we can’t win and retain the ball? I understand we’re playing a 3 versus their 4 in mid field........again 🤬

Whitehouse on the wing does not work. He's too slow and always out of position and creates no width. He's switched to the right wing now because Hendrie was exposed but now Hewitt is.

Whitehouse on the wing again   ;D ;D

Does this man ever learn?

By god do we miss max wright, any coincidence we play our best when we have pace out wide and not play Whitehouse on the wing and lump it to hanson.

I just feel in jolley we find a winning formula but then abandon it for whatever reason..

I know wright is injured but we still have the formula from previous games what works and what doesn't and playing Whitehouse out wide doesn't.

Pace pace pace

FFS 2-0 😔

It's difficult to have a go at Jolley, but he's not seeing what's right under his nose, teams have sussed us out early on in the season and we appear one dimensional...just not good enough I'm afraid .. certainly aren't going to chase them play off places unless he learns how to change a game mid match .

This is flipping garbage.

2-0  game over   :-/

Man in the box, gets ball to feet turns inside surrounded by 5 guys still gets his shot off Macca no chance again. Shock horror, midifeld sat too deep!  >:(

They shouldof had a peno, seconds after scoring how the ref didn't give it I don't kniw but thank god he didn't

Helping scunny go down  ;)

Thank fook I didn't make the journey today. Team who hasn't won all season 2-0 up at half time could only be Grimsby. It's awful to watch the full backs just pump it to Hanson time after time. I'd rather lose every week trying to play good football.

Quoted from denni266

Helping scunny go down  ;)

Scunny are 3-0 up against Northampton   :-/

If Whitehouse starts the second half then Jolley has completely lost the plot. He can't attack, he can't defend. What's the point in him? Miles too slow closing down their players in the lead up to both goals. Not remotely good enough for League Two football.

Well this is rubbish. We’re making these boys look very good and we’re offering nothing.
No width and no movement going forward
Dreadful

Thank fook I didnt go 👍

Just realised both goals have come in from crosses off the right hand side, makes you wonder if Gibson had been on that wouldn't have happened!!!....laying that first half performance right at Jolleys door step.. after a cracking start to the season were just not capitalising on it... showing his streakeness again....

Absolute poo poo, and getting worse week by week at this rate Hursty will be cupping his ears as we pass the scunts in the table, wake the intercourse up Town players and start flipping battling, lazy and slow.

One word excrement.This is worse then Mansfield. The entire midifeld needs subbing at half time.

We don't have the players to play 442 so why are we? Zero pace. Whitehouse is lost on the wing provides no width, no cover and has spent half the game on his bottom. Midfield is too deep might as well be playing a back 8. Hoof after hoof after hoof because we can't pass 5 yards. The two strikers are on opposite sides of the field most of the time.

Positives at least Macca should be giving them a bollocking in the changing room he was really really drunk off. I thought he might of broke his foot how hadd he kicked the post after the first goal.

Well today ladies and gentlemen we have a michael jolley in a nutshell, we find a winning formula then abandon it.

Its what holds him back each and every time,  whenever we have played this Whitehouse out wide system we have looked terrible but for some bizarre reason Michael loves to abandon a winning formula.

Frustrating and completely bizarre.

Bizarre selection, shite performance

Jolley will be back in the bank by Christmas bagging up loose change.
It’s all he’s good for chancer on a suit.

It's incredible how bad we look when Max Wright isn't playing. Why is he the only player in the squad capable of taking on an opponent?

Jesus Christ Whitehouse stays on the pitch. What are you watching here Jolley?

Cook off for Ogbu. Looks like we've gone 433

Quoted from Abdul19

Bizarre selection, shite performance

This.
Lessons ignored.

Should be Vernam for Whitehouse and Gibson for Hendrie.

Ogbu is making an immediant difference up front. Centre of two good attacks already.

Quoted from Fishy clapper

Arsen

AMEN

We’re still sounding vulnerable though despite the fleeting promise of Ogbu’s introduction

Sounds like wave after wave of attacks from Stevenage

Wonder how much longer some of the others that started the game will last before they're replaced?

Sounds like it's not getting any better in the second-half.

Stevenage haven't won all season, all flipping season Jolley, WTF are you playing at (censored)(anger3)

That was so closs by whitehouse. Litterally the width of the post.

Whitehouse now failing to hit the target from 3 yards out. Get him off.

Hendrie and Whitehouse have been awful last few games We are playing too defensive as usual-midfield including Hess. should be moving another 20 yards up field-backing off all the time. Somebody give Jolly some advice cos. he needs it.

Only Macca keeping us in this. The midifeld is none existant when they attack and not much better when we attack.

Sounds like I could have played in goal for Stevenage today.

Absolutely pathetic, we’re playing a team who had scored 8 goals before today and we’re making them look like world beaters. Could have easily been 3 or 4, the marking today is also absolutely abysmal.

Quoted from golfer

Somebody give Jolly some advice cos. he needs it.

How about 'resign now', we are just not going forward under this man

I always feel that Jolley wants to show how innovative he is,  we get a winning formula then he try's to be clever, and consequently we take a step back. Whether he reads reports on the opposition and feels we need to counteract it I don't know, but my opinion is let the opposition worry about you and if it works don't change it.

Ahkeem Rose on for Elliott Whitehouse

Are we going to try and go for it now?

Quoted from Ipswin

How about 'resign now', we are just not going forward under this man

Funny but I seem to recall we were facing relegation out of the league when he came in? Maybe that was all a dream ::)

If we can't beat this shower of shite and the way we have been playing lately and strange team selections  somebody deserves to GO.

Mansfield winning 5-1-some shite teams in this division and Scunthorpe 3-0 up

Dire defending.  Now running round like headless chickens.  Are we really missing Wright that much? Hanson not done much in the last few games. Hendrie - use some of your training time working on your left foot.  I did when i was younger and I only played Sunday league. And what's with all these lopping crosses? Not to mention short corners.

Quoted from Gaffer58

I always feel that Jolley wants to show how innovative he is,  we get a winning formula then he try's to be clever, and consequently we take a step back. Whether he reads reports on the opposition and feels we need to counteract it I don't know, but my opinion is let the opposition worry about you and if it works don't change it.

This resonates with me, I think both Jolley and Limbrick stick to the “modern manual” and I just wonder if selection is based upon lap top stats rather than who’s making a difference. Look what happens when we make a change Limerick spends ages talking our subs through a p1ssing diagram???

I know in reality we do t have much to pick from after the first 11 but we seem to ignore what’s going on after the start of every game and just see a game plan through, sometimes it works but quite often now it’s being sussed out.

Lost count how many times we lose to a side on a poor run or bottom of the league, maybe the players have begun to believe the bull sh1t?

Someone give Jolley some arm bands as he's obviously floundering!!

What I don't understand is we've been poor more or less right from the off and yet here we are with 15 minutes or so to go and we've only made two changes to the personnel on show who are certainly not covering themselves in glory

Quoted from Mayaman

Dire defending.  Now running round like headless chickens.  Are we really missing Wright that much? Hanson not done much in the last few games. Hendrie - use some of your training time working on your left foot.  I did when i was younger and I only played Sunday league. And what's with all these lopping crosses? Not to mention short corners.

To be fair to Hendrie it’s not his fault the manager picks him out of position.

I’m not sure how hard Davis has had to work to get back into the team but from what I’ve seen since his return he’s been less than average.

Comeback on?

Ahkeem just gets a cracker  :)

Why wasn't Rose playing from the start?

C,Mon Town!!

Rose scores a cracker at the near post! Loose pass lands to Hanson, chip pass to the left wing for Rose to run onto, cuts inside and smashes it into the roof of the net pasr Farman who is left shell shocked.

Quoted from golfer

Why wasn't Rose playing from the start?

Still nursing an injury

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Rose scores a cracker at the near post! Loose pass lands to Hanson, chip pass to the left wing for Rose to run onto, cuts inside and smashes it into the roof of the net pasr Farman who is left shell shocked.

Probably sleeping on the job after the first 80 minutes of having nothing to do  ;)

Superb run and finish from Rose. Look what happens when we put players on who actually run at defenders!

Quoted from denni266

Still nursing an injury

Is that a fact or your opinion?

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Funny but I seem to recall we were facing relegation out of the league when he came in? Maybe that was all a dream ::)

There's still time for that yet this season and anyway do you think avoiding relegation two seasons ago and a minor place improvement last season is going forward? Hurst got all sorts of excrement for taking 6 years Jolley if he stays in the job could easily double that

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Is that a fact or your opinion?

cant remember if its his hamstring , but jolly said 2 weeks ago that it has to be managed

Quoted from Ipswin

There's still time for that yet this season and anyway do you think avoiding relegation two seasons ago and a minor place improvement last season is going forward? Hurst got all sorts of excrement for taking 6 years Jolley if he stays in the job could easily double that

I'll use your own words..... improvement is going forward  ;)

Oldham had 2 players sent off within 2mins in 1st half

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

I'll use your own words..... improvement is going forward  ;)

Really?

Quoted from Chrisblor

Superb run and finish from Rose. Look what happens when we put players on who actually run at defenders!

Was it actually a Town player running forward ?

Even if we get something out this game , we have been crap..

So we put pace in the pitch and guess what,??.....Stevenage can't cope with it....learn your lessons MJ....it's there for all to see...

FT 2-1

Unsurprised at the first win of the season for Stevenage against a mainly hapless Town side

Onwards and upwards

Apparantly, we had a penalty shout but I can't see it because the bloody ifollow has stopped working

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

FT 2-1

Unsurprised at the first win of the season for Stevenage against a mainly hapless Town side

Onwards and upwards

Well onwards anyway

Only pay the players for the last 20 minutes, don't deserve intercourse all for the non performance in the first 70, not good enough for the play off's going on recent weeks performance.

Terrible result and performance.

It’s not easy being a town fan is it! We had a great chance to be in the playoffs and blew it again, some of MJ’s decision making does seem baffling at times. I really thought we’d come back strong today after last week.

Home to Leyton Orient next week, lets see what these players are made of, we need a convincing win.

I have a lot of faith in MJ but he does seem to complicate things. I feared the worst when we signed Hanson because I thought we would become "One dimensional" and sadly I seem to have been proved right. He planned the win against Exeter, yet didn't seem to plan for Mansfield or Stevenage. Use the full squad MJ or you could become another statistic in our history-another "nearly man".

How inconsistent.  We ran rings around unbeaten Exeter two weeks ago and we let winless Stevenage look good

Quoted from Mayaman

Apparantly, we had a penalty shout but I can't see it because the bloody ifollow has stopped working

Rose was overstretched and there was no way were getting a peno.

It's a simple game really.  Saw it against Mansfield... you are never going to "out clog" a bunch of cloggers.  

We seem to be very good at trying to put square pegs in round holes trying to nullify the more basic teams in this division. We end up making ourselves worse off and bringing our quality down to the level of opponents.  By doing this alone we have lost de facto. Just a thought; but lets pick our best team and play to our strengths ?

Quoted from Mayaman

Apparantly, we had a penalty shout but I can't see it because the bloody ifollow has stopped working

Never a pen

Quoted from rancido

I have a lot of faith in MJ but he does seem to complicate things. I feared the worst when we signed Hanson because I thought we would become "One dimensional" and sadly I seem to have been proved right. He planned the win against Exeter, yet didn't seem to plan for Mansfield or Stevenage. Use the full squad MJ or you could become another statistic in our history-another "nearly man".

I don’t know if he really planned the Exeter win or not. Easy to say after a good result and performance. He had to rest players after the Chelsea chasing so his options were actually limited. The result must have been a pleasant surprise but what to do then? Money was spent to bring in Hanson and Green probably on the promise of game time so we revert to Plan A, a team with no pace and easy to stop for a side like Stevenage with a bit of clogging.

MJ seems to overthink things but worse than that, he is stubborn in not realising what works and what doesn’t in this division.

Play rose wright and ogbu when available.

Play the team that beat the league leaders ffs, i know wright is injured but that dont mean we play a defensive centre mid out wide.

Stop complicating it.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Play rose wright and ogbu when available.

Play the team that beat the league leaders ffs, i know wright is injured but that dont mean we play a defensive centre mid out wide.

Stop complicating it.

Ogbu was pretty hopeless when he came on.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I don’t know if he really planned the Exeter win or not. Easy to say after a good result and performance. He had to rest players after the Chelsea chasing so his options were actually limited. The result must have been a pleasant surprise but what to do then? Money was spent to bring in Hanson and Green probably on the promise of game time so we revert to Plan A, a team with no pace and easy to stop for a side like Stevenage with a bit of clogging.

MJ seems to overthink things but worse than that, he is stubborn in not realising what works and what doesn’t in this division.

He 'stubbornly' believed Max to be an impact player despite his record of goals and assists over the last two seasons. He has been just as stubborn in not seeing how Green and Whitehouse have been really poor generally.  

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I don’t know if he really planned the Exeter win or not. Easy to say after a good result and performance. He had to rest players after the Chelsea chasing so his options were actually limited. The result must have been a pleasant surprise but what to do then? Money was spent to bring in Hanson and Green probably on the promise of game time so we revert to Plan A, a team with no pace and easy to stop for a side like Stevenage with a bit of clogging.

MJ seems to overthink things but worse than that, he is stubborn in not realising what works and what doesn’t in this division.

MJ said he knew exactly what format he planned to use against Exeter. It just seems a shame he can't plan what he needs against other teams.

That was Shocking
4 defeats in 5 now, in all games
MJ and the management team should hang there heads tonight
What was that?  against a team that hadn’t won all season

Come on Town!!

Can’t have the MJ explanation of Hendrie playing left back when we’ve got a left footed left back on the bench. Maybe Hendrie is a better option than Ring but he certainly isn’t better than Gibson. :o :o

Buckley used to say instead of worrying about the opposition, play your best team and let them worry about you.

He did okay.
  ;)

Quoted from Ipswin

Really?

Maybe your definition of progress Swin is going backwards 😉

I don’t think I’m the only one though who thinks we are generally moving in a more positive direction

https://twitter.com/johntondeur/status/1183071058871685122?s=21

Quoted from Rik e B

Buckley used to say instead of worrying about the opposition, play your best team and let them worry about you.

He did okay.
  ;)

Couldn’t agree more. Quite exasperated when I heard MJ say he’d set up according to how he thought the bottom of the league team might set up. Sounded like Hurst.

Quoted from Rik e B

Buckley used to say instead of worrying about the opposition, play your best team and let them worry about you.

He did okay.
  ;)

Jolly aint no Buckley  

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Maybe your definition of progress Swin is going backwards 😉

I don’t think I’m the only one though who thinks we are generally moving in a more positive direction

https://twitter.com/johntondeur/status/1183071058871685122?s=21

It is most definitely not positive to give so much respect to a side that had not won a game and had only scored 8 goals before today that you base your team selection and tactics on what THEY might do. Positive would be to select a side that is going to make them do the worrying.
Team selections and performances are incredibly inconsistent and for no obviously good reason than the manager's whims and fancies. I can only think he wants/needs to keep certain players happy.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

It is most definitely not positive to give so much respect to a side that had not won a game and had only scored 8 goals before today that you base your team selection and tactics on what THEY might do. Positive would be to select a side that is going to make them do the worrying.
Team selections and performances are incredibly inconsistent and for no obviously good reason than the manager's whims and fancies. I can only think he wants/needs to keep certain players happy.

You make some reasnoable points RRFC

I don't know what Jolley & Limbrick saw in their tactics and selection but can only assume they didn't put a team out today to deliberately lose

My initial response about progress wasn't about this game alone though, but on where Jolley started from with us and where we now find ourselves

I don't think losing the game today ( and/or losing last week either ) means, as per Swin's demands, that Jolley should be meeting JF to say that he's going to have to fall on his sword.  ;D

Quoted from Ipswin

How about 'resign now', we are just not going forward under this man

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

It is most definitely not positive to give so much respect to a side that had not won a game and had only scored 8 goals before today that you base your team selection and tactics on what THEY might do. Positive would be to select a side that is going to make them do the worrying.
Team selections and performances are incredibly inconsistent and for no obviously good reason than the manager's whims and fancies. I can only think he wants/needs to keep certain players happy.

I agree although maybe not fully with your conclusion. I think it’s more managerial naivety or lack of confidence from experience.
I haven’t heard the post match interview but I’d be interested to hear if he says he got it wrong.

I like Jolley a lot and I think he’s intelligent and articulate but I’m not convinced he is learning some of his lessons. He seems much more adept at setting up to play a turnover/on the break system against a strong team than any other scenario and he messes with the team too much, for me, even though I agree with using your squad and ‘horses for courses’. He is criminally short of natural width in the squad (one player) and that’s an oversight in my view.

Quoted from chaos33

I agree although maybe not fully with your conclusion. I think it’s more managerial naivety or lack of confidence from experience.
I haven’t heard the post match interview but I’d be interested to hear if he says he got it wrong.

I like Jolley a lot and I think he’s intelligent and articulate but I’m not convinced he is learning some of his lessons. He seems much more adept at setting up to play a turnover/on the break system against a strong team than any other scenario and he messes with the team too much, for me, even though I agree with using your squad and ‘horses for courses’. He is criminally short of natural width in the squad (one player) and that’s an oversight in my view.

It’s now his squad and its’ make up is in his hands. I truly believe that the squad is good enough for the play offs but he needs to field his best team and if that means leaving Hanson, Green and Whitehouse out then so be it.

Looking at the highlights,  same old faults. For the first goal Whitehouse backing off until the forward got into a position where he could create a goal-fking amateurish. The second goal their winger trapped near the corner flag by 2 of ours. He kicks the ball through Davis' legs who doesn't realise the ball has gone and continues to hold the player against the corner flag-what an embarrassment.  This team and the coaches should be sent to Bradley pitches in the morning and hopefully learn to play football. Most of them are getting money under false pretences.

Defending for their goals is really p1ss poor. Nowhere near enough effort/pressure on the ball at any time and the first goal especially - that cross does not come in! End of. Far too easy for them.

Talk about frustrating, we beat a top of the table side unbeaten all season via a inspired team selection.

Then lose TWO matches on the trot one to a bunch of cloggers and the second without a win all season by playing with no width or pace thus nulifying our midfield????

WTF I thought Jolley and Co were on the ball but they were out foxed thinking even a bottom of the table side would fold to a side with no width and no pace.

Our midfield is weak and as no cretivity because it has no width, Our attack is just the big boot up to Hanson hope he can musle out two/three defenders???

The frustating part in all this is WE HAVE THE PLAYERS IN THAT SQUAD THAT CAN HANDLE THIS AND HAVE DONE.

Is Jolley just giving certain players the chance to play through loyalty instead of form? it seems so it was obvious the system today was set up wrong again please have the courage to ring the changes.

We need to set up to attack teams and pressure opposition home and away we have proved we can beat the best respect but do not give opposition ammo to attack you ffs.

We have kick started two bottom feeders season Jolley, plaese  no more freebies at our expense.

Congrats Chaos on reaching 10K

Ah thanks Golfer. Just noticed that.

Losing against sides that were in terrible form prior to playing us has been a very real issue for us for quite a while.