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Posted by: Oly1987, August 17, 2019, 1:42am
Just read bbc sports coverage of us signing Waterfall and he said he wants Grimsby to be making the playoffs and that Green and Whitehouse have the same idea. Good to see some ambition from the players in the squad.
Posted by: Kris2, August 17, 2019, 2:30am; Reply: 1
Be a bit excrement if he said in his interview "Yeah, if we hit mid-table and avoid relegation that'll be a good season".  ;D

It's nice to have a decent soundbite to get the fans excited about a new signing but it's still early days in the season. It's easy to make wild predictions of what we can do in the season when the season has just begun, it'll feel different on a freezing cold night at the end of January when we are losing 0:2 to Crawley or whoever and the ref just seems to give them a free kick every time one of their players falls to the floor.
Posted by: Rik e B, August 17, 2019, 7:10am; Reply: 2
I've heard some horrendous player's from horrendous Town sides over the years give out such soundbites. The talking needs to be done on the pitch, though this is no sleight against Waterfall or the current bunch.

At least this group try hard with heart and determination, so win lose or draw so long as they leave it all on the pitch I'll give them some leeway should we struggle for form at times.
Posted by: Rick12, August 17, 2019, 8:09am; Reply: 3
Quoted from Oly1987
Just read bbc sports coverage of us signing Waterfall and he said he wants Grimsby to be making the playoffs and that Green and Whitehouse have the same idea. Good to see some ambition from the players in the squad.
It is but ultimately football is decided by money.If players are any good they will be in the premiership and not playing for us .Having said that its nice to see ambition shown by Luke Waterfall.Hence he wants to maximise his ability.

At the end of the day no matter where Grimsby will be in 10-15 or more years be it league  or non league I will always support them.Hence we cant all be at the top eg like a club like Real Madrid hence variety is life as without it life wouldn't continue.

Posted by: fishboyUTM, August 17, 2019, 9:38am; Reply: 4
Target the top three. That's reasonable for a club of our size in division 4, we shouldn't allow John Fenty's disasterous reign to dampen our ambitions. We should be doing better, a lot better. We've had a good start, that's all. Just a start but there are signs of togetherness on the pitch. That will be tested when we go a goal down, we came back roaring against Bradford, I'm not sure last seasons team would have. Target promotion. UTM.
Posted by: NorthseaMariner, August 17, 2019, 9:49am; Reply: 5
On the contrary, I think last seasons team came back frequently, the team the season before is a different case though.
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, August 17, 2019, 9:52am; Reply: 6
Quoted from Rick12
It is but ultimately football is decided by money.If players are any good they will be in the premiership and not playing for us .Having said that its nice to see ambition shown by Luke Waterfall.Hence he wants to maximise his ability.

At the end of the day no matter where Grimsby will be in 10-15 or more years be it league  or non league I will always support them.Hence we cant all be at the top eg like a club like Real Madrid hence variety is life as without it life wouldn't continue.



I'm guessing 'hence' was on your 'word do the day' toilet roll 😉
Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 17, 2019, 10:05am; Reply: 7
I think In reality there are 10-12 teams in our league who may not have such a long history but arguably are bigger clubs or more importantly have more resource to draw on than ourselves so if we made the play offs than that would be a decent accomplishment to be honest.

If anyone is “expecting” us to do it then I’m note sure what that expectation is based upon. Mid table finish this season and I’ll stick by that.
Posted by: moosey_club, August 17, 2019, 10:37am; Reply: 8
Quoted from HertsGTFC
I think In reality there are 10-12 teams in our league who may not have such a long history but arguably are bigger clubs or more importantly have more resource to draw on than ourselves so if we made the play offs than that would be a decent accomplishment to be honest.

If anyone is “expecting” us to do it then I’m note sure what that expectation is based upon. Mid table finish this season and I’ll stick by that.


bigger...more resources....not always key at this level....the odd stella signing can help a side undoubtedly but they soon become targets for either the hatchet men or a call from a team higher up the pyramid and dont always work out, Notts County for instance.  
Having a settled side, thats well organised, well drilled and ,as much as i hate the thought of playing for this but , having a very good set piece play book can make all the difference.
For quite a few seasons we have looked more likely to concede a goal from one of our own corners or set pieces than we have of scoring ourselves, sh1t delivery easily collected and counter attack sprung.
The promising thing so far is that we certainly seem to have worked on the set pieces this season and look much more dangerous with them now.
Early days but the changes made in squad, formation and approach looked to have made us a stronger side with some valuable experience for sure.
Posted by: Abdul19, August 17, 2019, 10:52am; Reply: 9
Quoted from NorthseaMariner
On the contrary, I think last seasons team came back frequently, the team the season before is a different case though.


6 points from losing positions last season, 9 the season before, surprisingly.
Posted by: GtfcGarner, August 17, 2019, 10:57am; Reply: 10
I don't think budget is relevent in the sense. Accrington proved that, if you can keep a close knit bond between players with abit of grit and determination anything can happen. Obviously it helps having better quality players but I would love to have a team of 11 grafters that if we lose 1-0 they have had to work so hard to get that result rather than us roll over and give them it.
Posted by: Rick12, August 17, 2019, 11:18am; Reply: 11
Quoted from Mighty_Mariner


I'm guessing 'hence' was on your 'word do the day' toilet roll 😉
Just trying to keep it real  ;)

Posted by: Rick12, August 17, 2019, 11:23am; Reply: 12
Quoted from GtfcGarner
I don't think budget is relevent in the sense. Accrington proved that, if you can keep a close knit bond between players with abit of grit and determination anything can happen. Obviously it helps having better quality players but I would love to have a team of 11 grafters that if we lose 1-0 they have had to work so hard to get that result rather than us roll over and give them it.

I loved what Accrington Stanley  done in the 2017-2018 season in winning league 2. They've come a long way since they got the mickey taken out of them in that milk advertisement which was doing the rounds the 1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFrTBppRfw
Posted by: TheRealJohnLewis, August 17, 2019, 11:33am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Rick12

I loved what Accrington Stanley  done in the 2017-2018 season in winning league 2. They've come a long way since they got the mickey taken out of them in that milk advertisement which was doing the rounds the 1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFrTBppRfw


I've always wondered who Zack Lee was? ;D

Posted by: mimma, August 17, 2019, 11:35am; Reply: 14
Just keep winning, and drawing,  as they always say,"one game at a time". There's no logical reason not to go for winning the league for every team. Build up winning momentum and push on. It is totally wrong to accept second best at any sport. Play to win.
Posted by: Rick12, August 17, 2019, 11:41am; Reply: 15
Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis


I've always wondered who Zack Lee was? ;D

Iam not sure ? ;)

Posted by: golfer, August 17, 2019, 3:19pm; Reply: 16
Confident Town will get promotion-got 12/1  BetFred five minutes ago
Posted by: rancido, August 17, 2019, 3:58pm; Reply: 17
If we finish mid table then that would be an ok season and an improvement. Finish in the top seven would be great. Promotion would be fantastic. UTM
Posted by: KingstonMariner, August 17, 2019, 4:11pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from rancido
If we finish mid table then that would be an ok season and an improvement. Finish in the top seven would be great. Promotion would be fantastic. UTM


Hate to say it*, but I have to agree with you  ;D

* joke
Posted by: fishboyUTM, August 17, 2019, 5:29pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from HertsGTFC
I think In reality there are 10-12 teams in our league who may not have such a long history but arguably are bigger clubs or more importantly have more resource to draw on than ourselves so if we made the play offs than that would be a decent accomplishment to be honest.

If anyone is “expecting” us to do it then I’m note sure what that expectation is based upon. Mid table finish this season and I’ll stick by that.


10-12 clubs in the division are bigger than us? Twaddle! Name them.

Swindon, Plymouth, Bradford and Oldham are bigger clubs than ourselves. That's it.
Posted by: chaos33, August 17, 2019, 10:33pm; Reply: 20
If those four clubs are ‘bigger’ than us, then it is only slightly. They have bigger stadiums, but I think there’s not much in it if you want to argue ‘who’s bigger...Swindon or Grimsby’?
There aren’t too many better supported clubs with the equivalent potential and history in league 2. Budget is a massive thing, but for me, in league 2 we should be setting objectives of competing for the play offs with similar sized clubs.

Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 17, 2019, 11:09pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from fishboyUTM


10-12 clubs in the division are bigger than us? Twaddle! Name them.

Swindon, Plymouth, Bradford and Oldham are bigger clubs than ourselves. That's it.


Read the post again and look up the words arguably and resource.
Posted by: chaos33, August 17, 2019, 11:16pm; Reply: 22
Think he missed the overall context you set mate.
Posted by: ex mariner, August 18, 2019, 8:07am; Reply: 23
We are 3 games in to the new season and as you all do every season all you delusional grimsby town fans get your hopes up you will never finish in the playoffs in league 2 your squad doesn't have the right mentality so stop getting carried away because as soon as your in bottom half of the league with a winless run as always you will want your manager out of the club get a grip were not even halfway through the goddamn season
Posted by: NorthseaMariner, August 18, 2019, 9:41am; Reply: 24
Quoted from ex mariner
We are 3 games in to the new season and as you all do every season all you delusional grimsby town fans get your hopes up you will never finish in the playoffs in league 2 your squad doesn't have the right mentality so stop getting carried away because as soon as your in bottom half of the league with a winless run as always you will want your manager out of the club get a grip were not even halfway through the goddamn season


Sorry, I think I understand what you’re trying to say, but can you speak English please. Try punctuation for a start.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 18, 2019, 9:48am; Reply: 25
Realistically, we could have been 7 points from 9 and, if you remember our abject performances against the Veggies last year, then yesterday was a significant step forward. I'm as sure as I can be that there are another couple of signings available to MJ - interesting also that Embleton has gone from starter to out of the squad in 3 weeks at Sunderland.
Posted by: fishboyUTM, August 18, 2019, 10:28am; Reply: 26
Quoted from HertsGTFC


Read the post again and look up the words arguably and resource.


Hence I was 'arguing'.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 18, 2019, 12:25pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from fishboyUTM


Hence I was 'arguing'.


Knock yourself out.....

So clubs that “arguably” have more resources (cash) and could be considered bigger....

Plymouth
Swindon
Mansfield
FGR
Exeter
Bradford
Salford

The possibles at the moment
Newport (cup money)
Carlisle
Northampton
Walsall

I’d love to say there was only a few teams that are currently wealthier or bigger than us in this league but it’s just not true.

Posted by: rancido, August 18, 2019, 12:28pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from ex mariner
We are 3 games in to the new season and as you all do every season all you delusional grimsby town fans get your hopes up you will never finish in the playoffs in league 2 your squad doesn't have the right mentality so stop getting carried away because as soon as your in bottom half of the league with a winless run as always you will want your manager out of the club get a grip were not even halfway through the goddamn season



I'm so pleased you are an ex mariner! The last thing we need is your kind of negativity. By the way who do you support, ex mariner?
Posted by: mimma, August 18, 2019, 12:39pm; Reply: 29
Could someone please explain what "a big club" is. What or how exactly is it measured? Money, fans, stadium, position or status?  There are different ways of looking at it depending on what point it is that you are trying to prove.
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