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Posted by: OllieGTFC, July 29, 2019, 6:38pm
OUR NEW CAPTAIN
Posted by: bobbyturtle, July 29, 2019, 6:43pm; Reply: 1
The leader at the back
Posted by: Tinymariner, July 29, 2019, 6:44pm; Reply: 2
I don’t like goalkeepers as captain but he is town through and through now, so good luck Macca.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 29, 2019, 9:42pm; Reply: 3
Club captain or on pitch skipper?
Posted by: MuddyWaters, July 29, 2019, 10:11pm; Reply: 4
Would rather have an outfield captain but understand why. Wish him all the best and hope that there’s enough leadership around the pitch.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, July 29, 2019, 10:14pm; Reply: 5
Wondering if Hendrie will wear the arm band as he's the vice captain...
In all honesty I don't really think it matters who's wearing the arm band during open play, I'd expect the more experienced players to take it upon themselves and show leadership skills and get into the players who aren't performing...
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, July 29, 2019, 11:24pm; Reply: 6
Its very well timed good PR from the club isn't it *cough cough*. But in all seriousness though it should of been Macca as soon as Dizza left
Posted by: golfer, July 30, 2019, 8:40am; Reply: 7
Do the players have to call him "sir"  or "cap'n"
Posted by: cannylad68, July 30, 2019, 10:25am; Reply: 8
Not a good idea, in my opinion.
Whilst James has to be respected, surely there is an outfield player who could do the job well, other than the toss of the coin before the start.
We've had some admirable captains, especially from midfield, Joe Waters and Paul Groves to name two.
This, to me, is a strange decision, to add to my doubts about MJ.
Posted by: diehardmariner, July 30, 2019, 11:02am; Reply: 9
It's just an armband really, a ceremonial piece of cloth.

You'll still have natural leaders and those who follow, both on and off the pitch.  As long as the balance is there in the squad it doesn't really matter who tosses a coin with the referee at the start of the game.

That said, nice and fitting for McKeown to get the nod.  

With Hendrie getting the vote as the deputy, I wonder if the talk about Davis leaving/wanting to leave still has legs.  Would have fancied Jolley picking him for one of the roles otherwise.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, July 30, 2019, 11:22am; Reply: 10
I think he will be a great figurehead for the club but I hope Hendrie will be the real captain on the field.

Very hard for a keeper to be skipper. One mistake, a goal given away and it is remembered, no way to be redeemed no matter how many SuperMac saves he makes afterwards. A keeper has enough to do without having to worry about other players as well. The only one to do it well was Dino Zoff and look what players he had in front of him!

Nevertheless, good luck James, let’s hope you are holding a trophy at the end of the season.
Posted by: RichMariner, July 30, 2019, 11:24am; Reply: 11
Don't see why people seem to care so much about who's made captain. Why would McKeown being made captain cause us to lose football matches? I can't think of anyone better who understands what the fans expect of the players.

If Jolley gets the preparation right and sends them out with the right tactics and game plan, and the players do what they've learnt in the week to the best of their abilities, the captain is only needed to shake hands at the start of the game and call heads or tails.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, July 30, 2019, 11:44am; Reply: 12
Quoted from RichMariner
Don't see why people seem to care so much about who's made captain. Why would McKeown being made captain cause us to lose football matches? I can't think of anyone better who understands what the fans expect of the players.

If Jolley gets the preparation right and sends them out with the right tactics and game plan, and the players do what they've learnt in the week to the best of their abilities, the captain is only needed to shake hands at the start of the game and call heads or tails.


Because Rich, the captain has a job on the field to keep players playing to those instructions and in the dressing room before  and at half time. Harder to do that if you have just dropped a bollock and cost your side a goal and harder still for a keeper.
Posted by: RichMariner, July 30, 2019, 4:00pm; Reply: 13


Because Rich, the captain has a job on the field to keep players playing to those instructions and in the dressing room before  and at half time. Harder to do that if you have just dropped a bollock and cost your side a goal and harder still for a keeper.


Fair point, but who's to say he isn't going to be amazing in the dressing room before the game and at half time? Who's to say he can't keep players playing to their instructions? He's respected by the other players, the manager trusts him implicitly. I'm sure he'll make a great captain. Everyone knows what he's given to this club. If a bollock is dropped, I doubt anyone will respect him less in the dressing room because they know how many points he's won us almost single-handedly.
Posted by: diehardmariner, July 31, 2019, 10:08am; Reply: 14
Generally speaking it's probably more difficult to influence the players on the team when you're in an isolated position such as a goalkeeper.  I'm not saying that's definitive but they're the furthest away from everyone else on the pitch.  

Whilst the goalkeeper has more of a broad view of the positions his team-mates are taking up, it's those more in the thick of it who are better placed to get a feel for what's needed.  Hence the tradition for either central defenders and centre backs to have the armband.  

As said above, as long as you have natural leaders across the pitch and within the squad there's no real need for the captaincy as such to sit in any set position.   In my eyes the need for a captain to be a midfielder or centre-back is as old fashioned and redundant as the thought that they need to be eye-bulging and beating their chest every five seconds.
Posted by: Posh Harry, July 31, 2019, 2:52pm; Reply: 15
From what I have seen macca has a number of strengths and a couple of weaknesses, one of them being his communication with his defenders.

If by becoming captain he feels he has the authority and confidence to be more vocal and organise them, then that might just improve the whole back line as a unit. Dave Beasant was a great example when he was here, the defenders knew where to be and felt more confidence in him as a keeper.

Roll on Saturday.

UTFM
Posted by: Jarmo.Is.God, July 31, 2019, 3:17pm; Reply: 16
Legend.

One of not so many recently, but a true Grimsby great IMO, and without him, we would be in non-league again, 100%
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 31, 2019, 3:50pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from golfer
Do the players have to call him "sir"  or "cap'n"


Skip(per)
Posted by: CodHeadMentality, July 31, 2019, 5:14pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from bobbyturtle
The leader at the back


Best player in the league
Posted by: ska face, July 31, 2019, 5:30pm; Reply: 19
I imagine it’s more a decision to keep him sweet and keep one of the senior players onboard. For someone who’s “town through & through”, he didn’t hang about with that transfer request when he had to sit on the bench behind Dean Henderson, who’s now playing in the Premier League. 7 games was it, one month? hhmmmm
Posted by: supertown, July 31, 2019, 5:33pm; Reply: 20
DINO ZOFF. PETER SHILTON. GIANLUIGI BUFFON. IKER CASILLAS. MACCA

Sorry for the Caps
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, July 31, 2019, 5:43pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from supertown
DINO ZOFF. PETER SHILTON. GIANLUIGI BUFFON. IKER CASILLAS. MACCA

Sorry for the Caps


Add Manuel Neuer to that...sorry for the spelling...
Posted by: Maringer, August 1, 2019, 11:25am; Reply: 22
Macca was a full-back.
Posted by: The Boys Paddock, August 2, 2019, 4:59am; Reply: 23
doesnt interest me..sorry
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