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Posted by: MarinerRob, July 27, 2019, 10:54am
A great article by Gregor Robertson in the Times highlights the dangers of clubs living beyond your means.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/historic-clubs-being-driven-into-dirt-yet-game-does-nothing-h0nvnn89d
Posted by: promotion plaice, July 27, 2019, 11:01am; Reply: 1

Looks like I have to subscribe to read the full article ?
Posted by: MarinerRob, July 27, 2019, 11:22am; Reply: 2
Sorry about that. I was able to read it in full the first time I saw it. The following is the link from the Facebook page.
https://t.co/3d9SCoEVFF?fbclid=IwAR3_rmFvi9hNbJbYlldBuQ7Qy9dtpc0HUrV5ljF1JQFevT0IDosa1qPb5lk

Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, July 27, 2019, 11:53am; Reply: 3
It is frightening to read how hand to mouth the game now is even at the supposedly higher levels. But there will always be those who want to try and live beyond their means and think that every promotion equals salvation.

Take our club. If we do well we get decent gates and we may go up. In L1 we start with decent gates but unless we are challenging again for the playoffs at least, the gates will go down and life becomes a struggle against the drop ...... even if you have a bankroller. Lower gates than the promotion year in the league below but higher wages. Ask them down the road at Glanford Park.

If by some mackerel we got promoted to the Championship the issue is the same but worse. The risks are even greater, the fall is even further. But we have to try don't we?
Posted by: golfer, July 27, 2019, 12:26pm; Reply: 4
Thank G. for J.S.F.
Posted by: buckstown, July 27, 2019, 12:52pm; Reply: 5
Great article, thanks for the link. Robertson writes a very good column in the Times every Monday, always worth a read
Posted by: arryarryarry, July 28, 2019, 5:07pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from golfer
Thank G. for J.S.F.


Exactly we would have missed out on such great managers like Mike Newell and Russell Slade MK2 and also missed out on possibly our greatest ever seasons in the Conference. ;)
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, July 28, 2019, 5:16pm; Reply: 7
To be fair were we not living beyond our means in the last Division One years? Zhang on 11k etc etc.

Think most clubs over the years have a few years of boom then bust, just now the boom and bust are on a monumental scale.
Posted by: moosey_club, July 28, 2019, 6:49pm; Reply: 8
It is frightening to read how hand to mouth the game now is even at the supposedly higher levels. But there will always be those who want to try and live beyond their means and think that every promotion equals salvation.

Take our club. If we do well we get decent gates and we may go up. In L1 we start with decent gates but unless we are challenging again for the playoffs at least, the gates will go down and life becomes a struggle against the drop ...... even if you have a bankroller. Lower gates than the promotion year in the league below but higher wages. Ask them down the road at Glanford Park.

If by some mackerel we got promoted to the Championship the issue is the same but worse. The risks are even greater, the fall is even further. But we have to try don't we?


;D if that was an intentional fish pun ...... hats of to you.
Posted by: Heisenberg, July 28, 2019, 6:52pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from moosey_club


;D if that was an intentional fish pun ...... hats of to you.


I thought the same! Mind you, would it being UNintentional be even better?!
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, July 28, 2019, 7:04pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Heisenberg


I thought the same! Mind you, would it being UNintentional be even better?!


Sorry to disappoint. When I had enough on top for a mullet our house was always a plaice for fish puns, we were often floundering and it was the only thing that kept us seine. ;)

Posted by: moosey_club, July 28, 2019, 7:07pm; Reply: 11


Sorry to disappoint. When I had enough on top for a mullet our house was always a plaice for fish puns, we were often floundering and it was the only thing that kept us seine. ;)



you cod'nt make it up
Posted by: psgmariner, July 29, 2019, 9:57pm; Reply: 12
Bury have had their first game of the season suspended. Think the end is nigh for them.
Posted by: Meza, July 29, 2019, 10:58pm; Reply: 13
I went onto MK Dons forum just to see what there reaction is and not sure how true this is but it doesn't look good.

As it stands:

-only 6 first team players
-nobody paid for months
-no pre-season fixtures
-a new manager who has only managed in non-league
-notice to leave their training ground by October
-no new kit
-lots of their fans apparently asking for ST refunds
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 30, 2019, 12:43am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Meza
I went onto MK Dons forum just to see what there reaction is and not sure how true this is but it doesn't look good.

As it stands:

-only 6 first team players
-nobody paid for months
-no pre-season fixtures
-a new manager who has only managed in non-league
-notice to leave their training ground by October
-no new kit
-lots of their fans apparently asking for ST refunds


Are MK Dons in financial trouble?

Oh sodomist, I see you mean Bury now. Oh well never mind.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 30, 2019, 12:46am; Reply: 15
Oh that is good news!

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/central-and-east/mixed-year-for-stadium-mk-group

How, turnover going down and losses more than doubling is a 'mixed year' I'll never know.
Posted by: Meza, July 30, 2019, 9:21pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from KingstonMariner


Are MK Dons in financial trouble?

Oh sodomist, I see you mean Bury now. Oh well never mind.


yeah sorry KM can understand the confusion my bad.  Yeah it was referring to Bury as they was going to play them.
Posted by: jock dock tower, July 30, 2019, 9:56pm; Reply: 17


Sorry to disappoint. When I had enough on top for a mullet our house was always a plaice for fish puns, we were often floundering and it was the only thing that kept us seine. ;)



You're obviously a dab hand at this kind of thing then?
Posted by: AussieMariner, July 30, 2019, 10:07pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from KingstonMariner
Oh that is good news!

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/central-and-east/mixed-year-for-stadium-mk-group

How, turnover going down and losses more than doubling is a 'mixed year' I'll never know.


Part bad and part fcking awful ......
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, July 30, 2019, 10:47pm; Reply: 19
RRFC, I have haddock enough of your fish puns.  You pollock.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, July 31, 2019, 12:52am; Reply: 20
Quoted from Malta_Mariner_90
To be fair were we not living beyond our means in the last Division One years? Zhang on 11k etc etc.

Think most clubs over the years have a few years of boom then bust, just now the boom and bust are on a monumental scale.


We were  living in our means, but the means changed. That’s very much the danger.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 31, 2019, 2:05am; Reply: 21
Quoted from Meza


yeah sorry KM can understand the confusion my bad.  Yeah it was referring to Bury as they was going to play them.


Mine too. I was hoping it was NK Dongs in trouble. They are, but not as much as Bury.
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