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Posted by: Northbank Mariner, July 18, 2019, 11:42am
Just listened to Gordon Taylor on talk sport regarding the sorry state of affairs at Bolton Wanderers...
The PFA have had to loan the players their wages for the last 5 months and he's also said it's looking increasingly likely that the EFL have failed the club and the PFA will have to report them to FIFA to put sanctions in place with the reality being that the club could fold..
Macclesfield, Bury and Notts County are on the same path too...
Kind of got me thinking that for as much as we give JSF stick for the state our clubs in at least we have a solvent, sustainable club to watch each week...
At this moment that saying of "be thankful for small mercies" is ringing in my head..
Posted by: denni266, July 18, 2019, 12:34pm; Reply: 1
Agree with you on that. But he treat the club like a cherished daughter and would not do anything to let it bloom and expand.. A ll he had to do was listen to what others said,  fans especially in stead of being on his high horse all the time and looking down on us and thinking he is the only one that mattered. we know he has protected the club, but so would the fans . It would have been more enjoyable for him and the fans to have been at one
Posted by: Gaffer58, July 18, 2019, 3:46pm; Reply: 2
I believe their dept got to around £180 million at one stage, and thats after having numerous seasons in the premier. There has been a complete breakdown in administration at that club over the last 10 years, if they were a normal business then they would have gone bankrupt.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 18, 2019, 4:32pm; Reply: 3
It’s probably having those years in the prem that’s done it for Bolton. Given them a taste for highly paid players and probably kept thinking if we can have just one more push we can get back.

I’m with denni on this
Posted by: SteffiMariner, July 18, 2019, 6:53pm; Reply: 4
Contraversial statement here, but I'd be quite happy for Bolton and Bury to go to the wall this season.
Posted by: mariner tommy, July 18, 2019, 7:38pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from SteffiMariner
Contraversial statement here, but I'd be quite happy for Bolton and Bury to go to the wall this season.


Why on earth would you wish closure on any football club, you bet your post is controversial.

UTM
Posted by: Les Brechin, July 18, 2019, 7:42pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from SteffiMariner
Contraversial statement here, but I'd be quite happy for Bolton and Bury to go to the wall this season.


The only team I'd want to go to the wall are MK Dons. Wouldn't even wish that on Scunny!
Posted by: jamesgtfc, July 18, 2019, 8:20pm; Reply: 7
I think the EFL needs to come down like a ton of bricks on a team.

Agree with what Denni said and it's like a gambler constantly chasing that big jackpot. Promotion to the promised land would probably pay most of the debt off which in the mindset of some, makes the gamble worthwhile.

If the EFL and FA made an example of one club and kicked them out it would make owners think twice. We have seen with Darlington that the National League don't take any prisoners so a team like Bolton would have to join the Northern Premier at best.

You have to feel for the fans but if something needs doing to stop this happening.
Posted by: CodHead, July 18, 2019, 8:47pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from Les Brechin


The only team I'd want to go to the wall are MK Dons. Wouldn't even wish that on Scunny!


Really? Wouldn't surprise me if they end up in financial trouble
Posted by: promotion plaice, July 18, 2019, 8:53pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from CodHead


Really? Wouldn't surprise me if they end up in financial trouble


Same here, I don't get what's in it for Swann being chairman of Scunny???

It must be costing him (his wife) a fortune.
Posted by: Poojah, July 18, 2019, 9:03pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from CodHead


Really? Wouldn't surprise me if they end up in financial trouble


Oh, I think they’ve been paying a dangerous game personally. In 2016/17 they spent 145% of turnover on wages, just 8% less than the worst offending club - Bolton Wanderers no less:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44850888

I’m fairly sure they’ll have budgeted on a promotion push last year, not relegation, so it could have been worse still. For what it’s worth, I can see them doing alright this season but you never know; a couple of years floundering in the League Two wilderness and things could turn sour very fast.

I’m by no means wishing a financial implosion upon them, like Les I reserve that for Milton Keynes and Milton Keynes alone. But I don’t think it’s an unfair observation.
Posted by: White_shorts, July 19, 2019, 2:28pm; Reply: 11
Hold on. Fenty gets a lot of stick on here for not investing in the team to get us promoted from League Two, but now we're praising him for not operating beyond the club's means? Make your flipping mind up.

In case you have forgotten, Tranmere and Lincoln are in League One.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, July 19, 2019, 2:39pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from White_shorts
Hold on. Fenty gets a lot of stick on here for not investing in the team to get us promoted from League Two, but now we're praising him for not operating beyond the club's means? Make your flipping mind up.

In case you have forgotten, Tranmere and Lincoln are in League One.


If you bothered to pay attention to what individual people say rather than taking a broad brush approach, you might find you're mixing up different people's opinions.
Posted by: Gaffer58, July 19, 2019, 3:27pm; Reply: 13
So that's both Bolton and Bury docked points before the season kicks off, basically that's 2 of the 4 relegation places in division 1 practically sorted.
Posted by: Les Brechin, July 19, 2019, 4:53pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Gaffer58
So that's both Bolton and Bury docked points before the season kicks off, basically that's 2 of the 4 relegation places in division 1 practically sorted.


Similar to what I thought the season Luton started on -30 and Bournemouth and Rotherham on -17. It was only because Chester were so excrement that we stayed up that season, delaying the inevitable.
Posted by: Abdul19, July 19, 2019, 6:07pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Les Brechin


Similar to what I thought the season Luton started on -30 and Bournemouth and Rotherham on -17. It was only because Chester were so excrement that we stayed up that season, delaying the inevitable.


A bit different though with there only being 2 spots - Bournemouth started that season on -17 but out the relegation zone!
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