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Posted by: N2K, June 10, 2019, 2:58pm
Matt Green signs on a 2 year deal.
Posted by: Hagrid, June 10, 2019, 3:00pm; Reply: 1
Welcome
Posted by: pontoonlew, June 10, 2019, 3:01pm; Reply: 2
Can probably guarantee 10 goals a season from him. Would hope he’s not going to be our ‘marquee’ striker judging by his record of late but nice to get up and running.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, June 10, 2019, 3:02pm; Reply: 3
Welcome Matt Green...
Just can't help but think we're already looking in the bargain bucket before we even get going .
Hardly has a great scoring record recently...just hope I'm chewing on this post at the end of the season after he's bagged himself 20+ goals!!!
Posted by: Perkins, June 10, 2019, 3:04pm; Reply: 4
Welcome Mr Green. Keep off the Fishy or you will soon regret signing.
Posted by: The Grim Reaper, June 10, 2019, 3:11pm; Reply: 5
Looks pleased to be here https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/green-becomes-first-summer-signing
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, June 10, 2019, 3:12pm; Reply: 6
He'll be hungry to make a point after Salford and also to see out his career here I reckon, good signing
Posted by: somersetmariner, June 10, 2019, 3:12pm; Reply: 7
Welcome Mr. Green ! Please score us some goals
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 10, 2019, 3:13pm; Reply: 8
From GTFC website.

“It feels great to be here. It’s a big club – you realise that as soon as you walk in through the door", said Green. "The amount of history and success the club has had over a long period of time. It’s great for me to be able to come here and play back in the Football League, and hopefully add some quality to the team."

“I like to play for clubs that are highly ambitious because I am myself, so I like to go somewhere that is fighting for promotion or a cup run. It’s all about trying to get as much success as you can as a player – especially if the manager is telling you that they’re going for it this season. He’s got a lot of experience, and he’s a good manager, and it’s something that you always want to be a part of.”

Interesting...I suppose it depends what you mean by ambitious.

And even more interesting, are we going for it this season?
Posted by: FishFan101, June 10, 2019, 3:18pm; Reply: 9
Very happy with that one! Needed at least one striker and we got one nice and early, always looked good when i've seen him play!
Posted by: grimsby pete, June 10, 2019, 3:18pm; Reply: 10
Seen him play a few times in the last 2 seasons and always gives his all,

A good signing , welcome Matt out ( sorry could not resist )









I mean welcome Matt out not Matt out , I get me coat. :B
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, June 10, 2019, 4:14pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Northbank Mariner
Welcome Matt Green...
Just can't help but think we're already looking in the bargain bucket before we even get going .
Hardly has a great scoring record recently...just hope I'm chewing on this post at the end of the season after he's bagged himself 20+ goals!!!


I have the same feeling and just hope this is not a Brodie, signed on the basis of the odd good season long ago. A lot depends on who else we get and how we organise to get the best from him. I don't want to see him stranded on his own up front trying to make something out of hoofs from the back.

Posted by: Fishy_fishtails, June 10, 2019, 4:16pm; Reply: 12
Good experienced attacker, welcome addition in my eyes.
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, June 10, 2019, 4:27pm; Reply: 13
PLeased with this, good experienced Striker who will chip in with goals, if we can get him back to his Newport form I'll be thrilled though
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 10, 2019, 4:34pm; Reply: 14
Pinched from the telegraph:

Matt's stats.

Mansfield: 83 starts, 3 sub, 54 goals
Birmingham City: 7 starts, 3 sub, 1 goal
Mansfield: 75 starts, 11 sub, 26 goals
Lincoln City: 45 starts, 19 sub, 15 goals
Salford City: 15 starts, 6 sub, 4 goals

so exactly 100 goals in 225 starts and 42 sub apps.

If those figures are correct not two shabby. Since he left Mansfield to join Brum he has managed 46 in 142 starts and 39 subs. Could easily do a job for us looking at those stats.

Bit like Thomas last season, although Thomas was never a prolific scorer had he been in a top side he would probably have got 20 goals.
Posted by: OllieGTFC, June 10, 2019, 4:35pm; Reply: 15
Apparently there’s another signing coming today don’t know how true, think maybe someone winding us up
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, June 10, 2019, 4:46pm; Reply: 16

https://twitter.com/HumbersideSport/status/1138096079713591296
Posted by: jimgtfc, June 10, 2019, 5:02pm; Reply: 17
Experienced striker who knows how to score a goal, he’ll do for me.
Posted by: jimgtfc, June 10, 2019, 5:10pm; Reply: 18
He’s just posted a picture of himself and the new shirt on instagram 🤦🏼‍♂️ Did he not get the memo either?
Posted by: OllieGTFC, June 10, 2019, 5:10pm; Reply: 19
Matt green posted a picture with the new shirt on Instagram 😂😂😂
Posted by: Pogo, June 10, 2019, 5:28pm; Reply: 20


I have the same feeling and just hope this is not a Brodie, signed on the basis of the odd good season long ago. A lot depends on who else we get and how we organise to get the best from him. I don't want to see him stranded on his own up front trying to make something out of hoofs from the back.



Brodie? He was a urine head who wasn’t one but interested, Matt greens an actual athlete
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, June 10, 2019, 5:28pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from jimgtfc
He’s just posted a picture of himself and the new shirt on instagram 🤦🏼‍♂️ Did he not get the memo either?


Just release it now ffs haha
Posted by: Bigdog, June 10, 2019, 5:35pm; Reply: 22
I like it when a player commits himself to a club early in the transfer window.. Decent signing on paper..
Posted by: dapperz fun pub, June 10, 2019, 5:36pm; Reply: 23
Decent signing imo
Posted by: promotion plaice, June 10, 2019, 5:42pm; Reply: 24

Location actually helped us this time.

Welcome to GTFC Matt.
Posted by: Billywhiz, June 10, 2019, 6:06pm; Reply: 25
Great to see him sign , hope he can do the business .
Funny how things change , not that long ago the Imps were pleased to sign up players we released , now it seems to have reversed .
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, June 10, 2019, 6:07pm; Reply: 26
According to mates over here in Lincoln scores 1 in 4 and gives 100%. Ideally a front two who both score between 12 & 20 goals would help solve some of our problems up front.

Still need to identify a partner plus hopefully a Devitt and Vernam on full power could be a good starting point.
Posted by: golfer, June 10, 2019, 6:17pm; Reply: 27
Heard it's the first of 2 ex Lincoln players coming
Posted by: RonMariner, June 10, 2019, 6:17pm; Reply: 28
PLeased with this, good experienced Striker who will chip in with goals, if we can get him back to his Newport form I'll be thrilled though


Newport?
Posted by: RonMariner, June 10, 2019, 6:29pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from golfer
Heard it's the first of 2 ex Lincoln players coming


Wouldn't mind if we signed there entire first eleven.........
Posted by: Rob_in_Grimsby, June 10, 2019, 6:32pm; Reply: 30
Happy with this to be honest, now we need a couple of decent attacking wide players
Posted by: friskneymariner, June 10, 2019, 6:41pm; Reply: 31
Wide in the Matt Rhead sense?
Posted by: golfer, June 10, 2019, 7:31pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby
Happy with this to be honest, now we need a couple of decent attacking wide players


Agree completely-doesn't matter who you have in the middle if they ain't getting the service they ain't going to score many-but we possibly have one already from the little I've seen of him.
Posted by: Meza, June 10, 2019, 7:52pm; Reply: 33
Nice touch from Nathan Pond and Arnold.

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Posted by: HertsGTFC, June 10, 2019, 7:54pm; Reply: 34
Decent signing......
Posted by: hheh2, June 10, 2019, 8:30pm; Reply: 35
Good solid league two signing now need players to offer service. Good signing
Posted by: moosey_club, June 10, 2019, 9:36pm; Reply: 36
Have always liked the look of him....thought he looked a right handful at times, on the move in the box and likes to attack the ball...remember him looking very strong at Mansfield a few seasons back but faded as the game went on.

Most importantly for me though as this is only the second week in June and we have hardly heard a peep from the club on potential signings or failed signings, does his mean we have actually managed to capture a first or second choice targetted player....and a striker no less !!??

That in itself a refreshing change....may not be the case but has seemed that for quite a few years now we have been recruiting strikers in late July/early August, none of which were our initial targets.

For once i am not saying ....who ??
Posted by: AdamHaddock, June 10, 2019, 9:59pm; Reply: 37
Now that is a marquee signing. Welcome Matt
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, June 10, 2019, 10:53pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from AdamHaddock
Now that is a marquee signing. Welcome Matt


He’s not that big is he? ;)
Posted by: Helgy, June 10, 2019, 11:01pm; Reply: 39
He’s a great lad always friendly, was top goal scorer for us in our 1st season back in the league 17 goals & scored some screamers for Salford.
Posted by: sonofmadeleymariner, June 10, 2019, 11:10pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from RonMariner


Newport?


Ment to type Mansfield not Newport
Posted by: mimma, June 11, 2019, 12:24am; Reply: 41
The one thing I can remember about him is he's fast and direct. Something we lacked last season.
Posted by: gaz57, June 11, 2019, 12:39am; Reply: 42


Ment to type Mansfield not Newport


Just as well you weren't putting it into your Sat nav
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 11, 2019, 4:49am; Reply: 43
Potentially a great signing. Something like 1 in 3 over a decent  period. Hopefully he’ll be given time and applauded if things don’t quite work out initially if he’s trying.

The comments from Nathan Arnold I’d take as a positive sign.

Welcome Matt. Let’s hope you put the gloss on our season with your silk-y skills and you don’t feel like you’re treading on eggshell.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, June 11, 2019, 5:43am; Reply: 44
Do you people think Salford City wanted to keep him(Confused) Green played in nearly all their promotion push games, on their website Salford left it only a few days ago before announcing he was set to leave. Seems like a good signing to me after losing Thomas. Green should wack a fair few goals in providing he gets the service. :)
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 11, 2019, 8:03am; Reply: 45
A good league 2 signing and whilst not exactly making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up a welcome addition going by former team mates and the Lincoln fan`s comments.UTM
Posted by: pen penfras, June 11, 2019, 9:08am; Reply: 46
Quoted from Nelly GTFC
Do you people think Salford City wanted to keep him(Confused) Green played in nearly all their promotion push games, on their website Salford left it only a few days ago before announcing he was set to leave. Seems like a good signing to me after losing Thomas. Green should wack a fair few goals in providing he gets the service. :)


I thought he signed a 2 year contract with Salford, so unlikely they wanted to keep him. But it shows that he's hungry to play football and have some success rather than sit on the bench and claim a decent pay packet.

Most of his games for Salford seem to have been 20 minute appearances at the end of the game from what I can see, can hardly expect him to have a great scoring record if he's not getting the time on the pitch.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 11, 2019, 9:16am; Reply: 47
Quoted from pen penfras


I thought he signed a 2 year contract with Salford, so unlikely they wanted to keep him. But it shows that he's hungry to play football and have some success rather than sit on the bench and claim a decent pay packet.

Most of his games for Salford seem to have been 20 minute appearances at the end of the game from what I can see, can hardly expect him to have a great scoring record if he's not getting the time on the pitch.


He sounds like a hard working team player so we have a good starting point if we can keep him fit.
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 11, 2019, 9:23am; Reply: 48
Quoted from pen penfras


I thought he signed a 2 year contract with Salford, so unlikely they wanted to keep him. But it shows that he's hungry to play football and have some success rather than sit on the bench and claim a decent pay packet.

Most of his games for Salford seem to have been 20 minute appearances at the end of the game from what I can see, can hardly expect him to have a great scoring record if he's not getting the time on the pitch.


Not wanting to nitpick but I think Green started 15 of the 21 appearances he made at Salford last season (at least according to telegraph and transfmarkt websites)?

He did not do well goal scoring wise on the face of it. But no idea how he was played at Salford, if he was the main striker/played wide etc.

Also interesting that although Adam Rooney got 20 goals last season he went on a 10/11 game run without a goal so could be service to their forwards was not all that great (despite them winning promotion in the end).

Regards his chances of scoring goals for us this coming season if Norwood can score 30 goals in L2 the standard cannot be all that high...he never seemed especially good when we played FGR/Tranmere in the conference.

Also If you look at last seasons top scorers only four players got 20 goals or more.

Norwood 30
Walker 22
Maynard 21
Agard 20

So perhaps expecting to find a player who will bang in 25 goals is just not going to happen anyway. Probably as much to do with how the game is played now as opposed to the quality of finishers available.

Which makes it even more important that we get goals throughout the team as well.

For example Hess scored a grand total of 0 goals last season. We really need a midfielder to be getting 10+ if we are going to do anything next season especially if we do not have two forwards getting 30+ goals between them.
Posted by: sam gy, June 11, 2019, 1:40pm; Reply: 49
Was Lincoln's top scorer in this league season before last with around 15 goals. Still plenty to offer at 32 and says he's still quick in his interview. Lastly, he's settled in the local area.

It's a yes from me.
Posted by: denni266, June 11, 2019, 2:06pm; Reply: 50
When do we return to training. would be nice for the full squad to be in place by then if not most ?
Posted by: Rick12, June 12, 2019, 10:22am; Reply: 51
Played 16 games in the championship which is promising.
Posted by: grassbandits, June 12, 2019, 11:52am; Reply: 52
Someone who knows MG told me earlier in the week his heart wasn't 100% in it last season. Commuting from Lincoln where his kids are still at school etc.

Very happy to be coming to us and I think we'll see one quality season from MG - hopefully the second season too.
Posted by: nealeardleyscrossing, June 12, 2019, 12:45pm; Reply: 53
I was surprised he agreed to go to Salford but I imagine he was paid well.
He was also never starting a game, and was behind Rhead and others on the bench too, so hardly played for us.

I liked him as a player, and if you accept that he will miss chances that he should score then you will like him, he will score goals at L2 I am sure - I wish him well, he wasn't going to get game time at our place so its good for him to play as much as possible before he retires.
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, June 12, 2019, 2:02pm; Reply: 54
He has some pedigree in that he scored for Mansfield against Liverpool  in the FA Cup a few years ago.  Not many players can say that they scored against Liverpool these days. 😀
Posted by: pontoon442, June 12, 2019, 3:41pm; Reply: 55
He's now 32 years old, played nearly all his football at either Conference or Div 4 level and supposed to be seen as as a good signing, well people are really clutching at straws now, he may still have enough in him to do okay when fit, but really is this the sort of player that is building for the future, that is going to take us up out of this horrible division, club going nowhere except struggle on...
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, June 12, 2019, 3:54pm; Reply: 56
Quoted from pontoon442
He's now 32 years old, played nearly all his football at either Conference or Div 4 level and supposed to be seen as as a good signing, well people are really clutching at straws now, he may still have enough in him to do okay when fit, but really is this the sort of player that is building for the future, that is going to take us up out of this horrible division, club going nowhere except struggle on...


Now steady on lad! It doesn't do to dent Fishy optimism in June. At least wait for August.  ;D

In any case Ronaldo was 33 when he signed for Juventus and some would seem to rate our bloke's ability only slightly below that level. ;)
Posted by: Ipswin, June 12, 2019, 4:21pm; Reply: 57
Quoted from pontoon442
He's now 32 years old, played nearly all his football at either Conference or Div 4 level and supposed to be seen as as a good signing, well people are really clutching at straws now, he may still have enough in him to do okay when fit, but really is this the sort of player that is building for the future, that is going to take us up out of this horrible division, club going nowhere except struggle on...


Sadly I think he's the best we're going to get. Any young, keen up and coming lads with good scoring records in the Conference ain't coming to BP.

30+ with lots of previous clubs and only a smattering of goals at those clubs is going to be the par for Grimsby Town's course (yet again) I'm afraid
Posted by: Les Brechin, June 12, 2019, 4:42pm; Reply: 58
Are we gonna give the bloke a chance before we all write him off FFS!
Posted by: Civvy at last, June 12, 2019, 5:01pm; Reply: 59
Quoted from Les Brechin
Are we gonna give the bloke a chance before we all write him off FFS!


I certainly am Les. As with all signings, I’ll have my initial thoughts about them when they sign, but judge them when they’ve played a few LEAGUE games.
Posted by: Barrattstander, June 12, 2019, 5:03pm; Reply: 60
Quoted from Ipswin
lots of previous clubs and only a smattering of goals at those clubs


Quite rightly only a week or so ago you were (once again) bemoaning the break up of the 2016 promotion winning team.

However your quote above isn't entirely fair as Green's record of 132 goals from 456 games is fairly similar to Amond's record of 144 from 457.

You might not live in Grimsby any longer but you've certainly retained that "glass half empty" mentality Grimbarians seem to revel in.
Posted by: 123614 (Guest), June 12, 2019, 5:12pm; Reply: 61
All the negative crap from the usual suspects, and we are not even halfway through June yet!

I didn't see anyone moaning about how old Dizza was when he played for us, also I remember watching 36 year old David Perkins having a great game for League 1 club, Tranmere Rovers not so long ago, and who can forget our own Paul Futcher, signed at 35 years old, and was one of the best centre halves seen at Blundell Park.

Edit:  Tony Ford played regularly till the age of 42, his last 7 seasons were all played in Division 3, which is the equivalent of todays League 1.  
Posted by: Superdan147, June 12, 2019, 5:26pm; Reply: 62
Quoted from Barrattstander


Quite rightly only a week or so ago you were (once again) bemoaning the break up of the 2016 promotion winning team.

However your quote above isn't entirely fair as Green's record of 132 goals from 456 games is fairly similar to Amond's record of 144 from 457.

You might not live in Grimsby any longer but you've certainly retained that "glass half empty" mentality Grimbarians seem to revel in.


I think Matt green and paddy Amond is a very fair comparison. Remarkably similar records since 2011 in the fourth and fifth tiers. Both similar in terms of age, style of play too. Let’s hope Matt green can produce for us like Amond did!

Posted by: MuddyWaters, June 12, 2019, 5:33pm; Reply: 63
Lincoln decided to effectively replace him with Akinde after MG had been top scorer the previous season. Very few Gimps seem to have a bad word about him and his scoring record is far better than anyone else at the club so let's give him the welcome he deserves rather than the usual, pre-conceived sniping.
Posted by: Teesknees, June 12, 2019, 5:41pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from Barrattstander


Quite rightly only a week or so ago you were (once again) bemoaning the break up of the 2016 promotion winning team.

However your quote above isn't entirely fair as Green's record of 132 goals from 456 games is fairly similar to Amond's record of 144 from 457.

You might not live in Grimsby any longer but you've certainly retained that "glass half empty" mentality Grimbarians seem to revel in.


He doesn't even have a glass!
Posted by: StaffsMariner, June 12, 2019, 5:51pm; Reply: 65
"I liked him as a player, and if you accept that he will miss chances that he should score then you will like him, he will score goals at L2 I am sure"

Sounds like LJL from that comment.
I think this is a great first signing to go along with our younger forward players.
Anyone thinking hes too old should give him a chance before voicing concerns. Modern footballers dont retire at 30 anymore, thats the thinking that got Ivano playing here. Top flight clubs thought he was too old.
Posted by: quebec38, June 12, 2019, 6:04pm; Reply: 66
Busy forward with decent pace has always been my opinion of him. Can play through the middle or wide as well. I think it’s a great signing to start things off. If he could get to 15 league goals I think that would be a good return and then anything more would be excellent in my eyes.
Posted by: RonMariner, June 12, 2019, 7:03pm; Reply: 67
Seems a well regarded player by the fans of other clubs he has played for.

The key thing will be the service we can deliver to him. Max Wright may well be the player to help with that.
Posted by: Kris2, June 12, 2019, 7:10pm; Reply: 68
The main difference between Green and Amond is that Green is more of a busybody around the pitch who will score and create maybe 1 in 10 attempts but with a high ratio of attempts will probably get results. Amond just tends to quietly lurk until an opening happens then tries to capitalise on it. Tends to score more of his chances at a lower ratio because he won't put himself about as much.

He'll probably end up being more of a Bogle that tries to do everything and you may get him on a good day or a not good day with no idea of which you get. Dunno if he's prone to sulking when things don't go his way like Bogle was not seen enough of him.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, June 12, 2019, 7:21pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from RonMariner
Seems a well regarded player by the fans of other clubs he has played for.

The key thing will be the service we can deliver to him. Max Wright may well be the player to help with that.


Max Wright has played ONE league game, a meaningless dead rubber at that, let’s give him a chance to bed in before proclaiming him as the key to getting the best out of MG
Posted by: jonnyboy82, June 12, 2019, 9:45pm; Reply: 70
I think matt Green is a good signing for us tbh.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, June 12, 2019, 10:33pm; Reply: 71
He’s a decent signing. Experienced striker who is proven at the level.  
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 13, 2019, 4:47am; Reply: 72
Quoted from StaffsMariner
"I liked him as a player, and if you accept that he will miss chances that he should score then you will like him, he will score goals at L2 I am sure"

Sounds like LJL from that comment.
I think this is a great first signing to go along with our younger forward players.
Anyone thinking hes too old should give him a chance before voicing concerns. Modern footballers dont retire at 30 anymore, thats the thinking that got Ivano playing here. Top flight clubs thought he was too old.


His scoring record over a long period is better than Lennie’s.
Posted by: rancido, June 13, 2019, 5:41am; Reply: 73
I can't believe all this negativity about this signing. So many posters criticise the Board for being negative about the running of the club but is nothing compared to the caustic comments on here. I really hope Green doesn't read this thread.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, June 13, 2019, 9:40am; Reply: 74
Very positive signing this imho. A player wanting to sign early and buying into the managers philosophy and vision.

Welcome
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 13, 2019, 9:42am; Reply: 75
Quoted from rancido
I can't believe all this negativity about this signing. So many posters criticise the Board for being negative about the running of the club but is nothing compared to the caustic comments on here. I really hope Green doesn't read this thread.


Not seen anything that negative here really?
Posted by: denni266, June 13, 2019, 9:49am; Reply: 76
I think on the whole its not a bad signing, lets hope we get the players around him to supply some good balls in to him. we will all be able to judge better as players sign
Posted by: Bigdog, June 13, 2019, 9:54am; Reply: 77
Quoted from rancido
I can't believe all this negativity about this signing. So many posters criticise the Board for being negative about the running of the club but is nothing compared to the caustic comments on here. I really hope Green doesn't read this thread.


Well.. I've looked through this thread and counted up 33 positive comments and 5 negative comments, so your peddling of fake news doesn't stack up really. Can't wait to slag the fans off can you? Running your mouth off in this way perpetuates more negativity than the 5 negative comments which couldn't even be termed that caustic..

Your post would be more accurate if it read..

I can't believe all this postivity about this signing. So many posters usually criticise the Board for being negative about the running of the club but it is the opposite when compared to the large majority of positive comments on here. I hope Green reads this thread to boost his confidence..
Posted by: promotion plaice, June 13, 2019, 10:03am; Reply: 78

Make that 34 positive comments.....sounds like a decent signing to me.
Posted by: Garth, June 13, 2019, 10:07am; Reply: 79
35 I'm looking fwd to seeing him, Welcome
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 10:10am; Reply: 80
Quoted from rancido
I can't believe all this negativity about this signing. So many posters criticise the Board for being negative about the running of the club but is nothing compared to the caustic comments on here. I really hope Green doesn't read this thread.


It is strange how the negative comments (as Bigdog states only 5/33) do seem to stick out more, seem more magnified.

Probably something to do with psychology or something. Perhaps we are subconsciously looking for the posts/posters who disagree with us.  

If you are reading this Matt, remember 28/33 positive comments (a good ratio for the fishy!). If you score 28 goals in your first 33 games as well that would be nice!  ;)
Posted by: forza ivano, June 13, 2019, 10:25am; Reply: 81
i was one of the negative ones, but have to say i'm more encouraged having read the input of lincoln fans and particularly by what Nathan Arnold tweeted. So thanks to Nathan Arnold you can put me down as a neutral!
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, June 13, 2019, 10:32am; Reply: 82
Quoted from forza ivano
i was one of the negative ones, but have to say i'm more encouraged having read the input of lincoln fans and particularly by what Nathan Arnold tweeted. So thanks to Nathan Arnold you can put me down as a neutral!


Not normal for me but I actually think I should retract my negative comment.
I reckon I jumped the gun and I'm now in the belief if we can get him firing on all cylinders he'll come good for us...
So, as the say, over to you Mr Green to get the fans off our butts chanting your name...
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 13, 2019, 10:42am; Reply: 83
so it`s now 35/3 in favour rancido
Posted by: pen penfras, June 13, 2019, 10:59am; Reply: 84
Quoted from 1mickylyons
so it`s now 35/3 in favour rancido


I counted 7 negative comments and 28 positive comments by the point rancido replied, and I was being a bit generous with what I considered positive, some were more neutral than actually positive. So at that point, about 25% of people had complained about a player that's yet to kick a ball and has a goal scoring record better than any striker we've signed in donkey's years.

Admittedly I thought the ratio of positive to negative was worse, but it's still incredibly negative to be moaning about a player with a decent track record before he's even played a game.
Posted by: Bigdog, June 13, 2019, 11:15am; Reply: 85
Quoted from pen penfras


I counted 7 negative comments and 28 positive comments by the point rancido replied, and I was being a bit generous with what I considered positive, some were more neutral than actually positive. So at that point, about 25% of people had complained about a player that's yet to kick a ball and has a goal scoring record better than any striker we've signed in donkey's years.

Admittedly I thought the ratio of positive to negative was worse, but it's still incredibly negative to be moaning about a player with a decent track record before he's even played a game.


Well even if you also want to stick the boot into the fans too, get your maths right. 7 negative out of a total of 35 is 20%. 80% minimum positive is a good thing, right? God knows why you had to check (god knows why I felt the need to, only to prevent our fans all being tarred with the same brush and slandered yet again), and I think I was being more than fair with my own counting anyway. And so what if some people have reservations, let them, it's their prerogative. Some have some good points to be fair, but on the balance of things I think Matt Green could be a good signing.

This is why this club is in such a mess. Big supporters of the board or those who have close links can't wait to stick the boot in to the paying public, add fuel to the fire of mutual contempt and perpetuate a myth. And before the answer could be turned on its head re criticism of the board, let's not forget our dismal playing record over a very long period, the absolute mess the club infrastructure is in and the complete disregard the board has for the fans' voices. Fans have every right to be wary of anything the club does.. we are not North Korea FC with our group of happy clappers being forced to clap everything or we get punished..
Posted by: Mariner93er, June 13, 2019, 11:18am; Reply: 86
I'm sure North Korea's forum would be more entertaining than the pettiness on this forum at times
Posted by: Civvy at last, June 13, 2019, 11:20am; Reply: 87
Quoted from Malta_Mariner_90


It is strange how the negative comments (as Bigdog states only 5/33) do seem to stick out more, seem more magnified.

Probably something to do with psychology or something. Perhaps we are subconsciously looking for the posts/posters who disagree with us.  
;)


It certainly is psychologically. If you lost 1/2 stone. Put some new clothes on and had a night out. 20 people complimented you but 3 said that actually they thought you had gained weight I know which you would remember !!!  
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 13, 2019, 11:32am; Reply: 88
Quoted from pen penfras


I counted 7 negative comments and 28 positive comments by the point rancido replied, and I was being a bit generous with what I considered positive, some were more neutral than actually positive. So at that point, about 25% of people had complained about a player that's yet to kick a ball and has a goal scoring record better than any striker we've signed in donkey's years.

Admittedly I thought the ratio of positive to negative was worse, but it's still incredibly negative to be moaning about a player with a decent track record before he's even played a game.


Well 2 of the 7 you dug out have retracted leaving a possible 5 . Green`s greatest attribute accoring to comments about him are not his goals more his team play and general work ethic this should endear him to our support. Player`s like him will always be viewed a Salford Reject before a ball is kicked that`s never been different with any other signing.
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 11:38am; Reply: 89
Quoted from Civvy at last


It certainly is psychologically. If you lost 1/2 stone. Put some new clothes on and had a night out. 20 people complimented you but 3 said that actually they thought you had gained weight I know which you would remember !!!  


This is assuming you remember said night the next day!  ;)
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 13, 2019, 12:07pm; Reply: 90
Quoted from Malta_Mariner_90


This is assuming you remember said night the next day!  ;)


Sounds like Civvy’s is the voice of bitter experience 😄
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 13, 2019, 12:12pm; Reply: 91
Quoted from Bigdog


Well.. I've looked through this thread and counted up 33 positive comments and 5 negative comments, so your peddling of fake news doesn't stack up really. Can't wait to slag the fans off can you? Running your mouth off in this way perpetuates more negativity than the 5 negative comments which couldn't even be termed that caustic..

Your post would be more accurate if it read..

I can't believe all this postivity about this signing. So many posters usually criticise the Board for being negative about the running of the club but it is the opposite when compared to the large majority of positive comments on here. I hope Green reads this thread to boost his confidence..


Hey, he’s only being ‘neutral’ on the whole board v fans debate. We know Rancido doesn’t only criticise the fans........

😉
Posted by: golfer, June 13, 2019, 12:12pm; Reply: 92
Quoted from Mariner93er
I'm sure North Korea's forum would be more entertaining than the pettiness on this forum at times


Latest rumour--" We are signing  E. Foo Yung,F.Rice,Kor Marr,and C. Andy Chipz all who play for the North Korean National Team"   I must say this seems a good recipe for success and definitely wets my appetite. Well done to all concerned.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 13, 2019, 12:17pm; Reply: 93
Quoted from Bigdog


Well even if you also want to stick the boot into the fans too, get your maths right. 7 negative out of a total of 35 is 20%..


Not a good sign in an accountant 😉

And muppets like this have the cheek to question people’s ability to run a football club better than the current mob! Like I said to Fishyfishtails on another thread, they do John Fenty no favours.
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 12:18pm; Reply: 94
Quoted from KingstonMariner


Sounds like Civvy’s is the voice of bitter experience 😄


He obviously has not forgotten "that night".  ;D
Posted by: grimsby pete, June 13, 2019, 12:25pm; Reply: 95
What a player has done in the past whether he scored 20+ a season or 4 or 5,

He will be judged on what he does in a Town shirt,

I am sure by what I have seen of Green in  Mansfield, Lincoln and Salford shirts,

He will be a fans favourite because of his high work rate , energy and goal scoring,

He might not be a 20+ goal a season we long for but he will score enough and create a few as well.
Posted by: nealeardleyscrossing, June 13, 2019, 2:16pm; Reply: 96
Quoted from grimsby pete
What a player has done in the past whether he scored 20+ a season or 4 or 5,

He will be judged on what he does in a Town shirt,

I am sure by what I have seen of Green in  Mansfield, Lincoln and Salford shirts,

He will be a fans favourite because of his high work rate , energy and goal scoring,

He might not be a 20+ goal a season we long for but he will score enough and create a few as well.


He is a good player, good touch, high work rate, what he does need is a target man with him. His successful spells have coincided with him playing along side Rhead  - He fell out of favour with us when we changed formation, and played with 3 up front - as opposed to 4-4-2 - Cowley favoured , Andrade, Akinde and Anderson with a 10 behind them - Mainly Rowe or McCartan, when that happened there was limited playing time for Green. We got 75k for him, and effectively got Rowe on loan, who was a better fit for us - It wasn't that Green was gash or was playing badly/

Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 2:21pm; Reply: 97


He is a good player, good touch, high work rate, what he does need is a target man with him. His successful spells have coincided with him playing along side Rhead  - He fell out of favour with us when we changed formation, and played with 3 up front - as opposed to 4-4-2 - Cowley favoured , Andrade, Akinde and Anderson with a 10 behind them - Mainly Rowe or McCartan, when that happened there was limited playing time for Green. We got 75k for him, and effectively got Rowe on loan, who was a better fit for us - It wasn't that Green was gash or was playing badly/



Which would make our links (all be them internet rumours) with Hanson and Cook seem to make sense. Would it be a disaster if he was up top on his own?  
Posted by: nealeardleyscrossing, June 13, 2019, 2:23pm; Reply: 98
Quoted from Malta_Mariner_90


Which would make our links (all be them internet rumours) with Hanson and Cook seem to make sense. Would it be a disaster if he was up top on his own?  


I am not sure it would work, he can get bullied quite easy by L2 defenders. Like I said I would have kept him for last season, as he can quite easily playing on the right.
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, June 13, 2019, 2:29pm; Reply: 99
Nah I'm saying it now lads, if we get Hanson aswell we're going up I wont listen to reason, I'll be straight to the bookies
Posted by: rancido, June 13, 2019, 2:30pm; Reply: 100
I, personally, think Green is a good signing. It is also significant that when I mentioned a negative reaction to his signing I was berated and lo and behold some of those negative posters changed their opinion. The herding instinct is very strong on this site!
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 2:35pm; Reply: 101


I am not sure it would work, he can get bullied quite easy by L2 defenders. Like I said I would have kept him for last season, as he can quite easily playing on the right.


Thanks for the reply, we tried it last season you see, as you probably know we were playing Thomas up on his own last season despite him not being a traditional target man. Actually he was decent at holding the ball and bringing others into play. More of a back to goal forward anyway though. I take it Green is not that type? He does not hold the ball up well etc?
Posted by: forza ivano, June 13, 2019, 2:48pm; Reply: 102
Quoted from rancido
I, personally, think Green is a good signing. It is also significant that when I mentioned a negative reaction to his signing I was berated and lo and behold some of those negative posters changed their opinion. The herding instinct is very strong on this site!


don't get too up yourself rancido - i certainly didn't change my tune because of you; it was Nathan Arnold 'what done it' for me
Posted by: Ashby mariner, June 13, 2019, 3:06pm; Reply: 103
What did Nathan Arnold say about Green?
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 3:08pm; Reply: 104
Quoted from Ashby mariner
What did Nathan Arnold say about Green?


That he is a past it has been centre forward who will have no chance of attracting positive comments on the fishy!

;D
Posted by: rancido, June 13, 2019, 3:11pm; Reply: 105
I'm not Forza, I just don't get this criticising of new players who have yet to play a game yet for town. I could understand it if it was a "Lee Evans (?)" scenario, where a potential signing was an out and out toe-rag. But Green has done the business for a few seasons at this level and we really need to trust MJ in the choice of players he thinks he needs to progress us beyond this level. Black_and_white_bear posted a similarities post to mine yet wasn't quoted once! It doesn't bother me as I'm 71 years old and it's all water off a ducks back to me but I do get the impression that some posters get "shot down" straight away by certain members of the "Fishy Clique". Meanwhile I'm just happy getting drunk in Bulgaria and looking forward to another season watching my beloved Town, whoever they sign. Oh and when I get back on Sunday I will be straight into the club Monday to renew my St, and that has got fook all to do with new shirts, new signings, whatever floodlights are fitted or the colour of the refurbished khazi. I laugh at these posters whose allegiance depends on x, y, or z - Town fans, my arce!!!
Posted by: RichMariner, June 13, 2019, 3:20pm; Reply: 106
Not sure if there's much in the James Hanson rumour, but he would be a good signing - and a good partner for Green - in a 4-4-2 (or whatever system we can play with two strikers).

A good friend of mine is a Bradford fan and he speaks very highly of Hanson as a person as well as a player. Not the most mobile now but has a good football brain, hangs in the air, makes life difficult for defenders and can make the ball stick up top.

Not a too dissimilar description to Andy Cook, really, except Hanson might be more realistic or affordable.
Posted by: forza ivano, June 13, 2019, 3:39pm; Reply: 107
Quoted from RichMariner
Not sure if there's much in the James Hanson rumour, but he would be a good signing - and a good partner for Green - in a 4-4-2 (or whatever system we can play with two strikers).

A good friend of mine is a Bradford fan and he speaks very highly of Hanson as a person as well as a player. Not the most mobile now but has a good football brain, hangs in the air, makes life difficult for defenders and can make the ball stick up top.

Not a too dissimilar description to Andy Cook, really, except Hanson might be more realistic or affordable.


heard from 2 different people that hanson was at the club and seen in the club shop on Monday
Posted by: queenybantam07, June 13, 2019, 4:10pm; Reply: 108
Quoted from RichMariner
Not sure if there's much in the James Hanson rumour, but he would be a good signing - and a good partner for Green - in a 4-4-2 (or whatever system we can play with two strikers).

A good friend of mine is a Bradford fan and he speaks very highly of Hanson as a person as well as a player. Not the most mobile now but has a good football brain, hangs in the air, makes life difficult for defenders and can make the ball stick up top.

Not a too dissimilar description to Andy Cook, really, except Hanson might be more realistic or affordable.


Bradford City fan here.....

Hanson’s days are long gone. He suffers with injuries and quite frankly, he’s scored ten times in his last nearly 90 appearances.

When Sheff United came in for him a few seasons back, they offered us a deal worth just over £200k and we snapped their hands off.

We used to pay him circa £5k per week. Sheff Utd were paying him £8k per week; and even at Wimbledon he’s earning a decent wedge.

He’ll command at least £2.5k-£3k per week in L2, and I’m sure there are better options now at this level.

He also wouldn’t complement Matt Green, either.
Posted by: Grantham_Mariner, June 13, 2019, 4:15pm; Reply: 109
Quoted Text
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Goal! Lincoln City 2, Grimsby Town 0. Matt Green (Lincoln City) right footed shot from very close range to the centre of the goal. Assisted by Elliott Whitehouse.



From BBC match report 17/03/2018

Could do with a bit of this for us. Geen goal, Whitehouse assist.
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, June 13, 2019, 4:15pm; Reply: 110
Quoted from queenybantam07


Bradford City fan here.....

Hanson’s days are long gone. He suffers with injuries and quite frankly, he’s scored ten times in his last nearly 90 appearances.

When Sheff United came in for him a few seasons back, they offered us a deal worth just over £200k and we snapped their hands off.

We used to pay him circa £5k per week. Sheff Utd were paying him £8k per week; and even at Wimbledon he’s earning a decent wedge.

He’ll command at least £2.5k-£3k per week in L2, and I’m sure there are better options now at this level.

He also wouldn’t complement Matt Green, either.


Good authority he's taking a very very big pay cut to join us if it happens. I also think your wrong on the fact he wouldn't compliment Green very well, Green plays better in a two with a big man. Mansfield he had Ross Dyer and Nick Wright. Lincoln he had Matt Rhead.. so I think Hanson and Green would be a very good front two.
Posted by: Malta_Mariner_90, June 13, 2019, 4:21pm; Reply: 111
Quoted from queenybantam07


Bradford City fan here.....

Hanson’s days are long gone. He suffers with injuries and quite frankly, he’s scored ten times in his last nearly 90 appearances.

When Sheff United came in for him a few seasons back, they offered us a deal worth just over £200k and we snapped their hands off.

We used to pay him circa £5k per week. Sheff Utd were paying him £8k per week; and even at Wimbledon he’s earning a decent wedge.

He’ll command at least £2.5k-£3k per week in L2, and I’m sure there are better options now at this level.

He also wouldn’t complement Matt Green, either.


You are obviously not aware of the "positive posts only" rule we have here on the fishy. Now this will be counted as "yet another" caustic comment.

Secondly why do think he would not complement Green?  :)
Posted by: queenybantam07, June 13, 2019, 4:23pm; Reply: 112
Quoted from LocalLadGTFC


Good authority he's taking a very very big pay cut to join us if it happens. I also think your wrong on the fact he wouldn't compliment Green very well, Green plays better in a two with a big man. Mansfield he had Ross Dyer and Nick Wright. Lincoln he had Matt Rhead.. so I think Hanson and Green would be a very good front two.


It begs the question why he would want to take a big pay cut to play in the league below, when he’s settled in West London and enjoying his time at Wimbledon - just saying.

I just wouldn’t put Green in that category of being a mobile striker, who covers every blade of grass. I always had him down as a targetman-type, myself.

See the Hanson and Nahki Wells partnership we had the last time we were down here, and you’ll understand what I mean by playing to Hanson’s strengths.  
Posted by: LocalLadGTFC, June 13, 2019, 4:27pm; Reply: 113
Quoted from queenybantam07


It begs the question why he would want to take a big pay cut to play in the league below, when he’s settled in West London and enjoying his time at Wimbledon - just saying.

I just wouldn’t put Green in that category of being a mobile striker, who covers every blade of grass. I always had him down as a targetman-type, myself.

See the Hanson and Nahki Wells partnership we had the last time we were down here, and you’ll understand what I mean by playing to Hanson’s strengths.  


We must watch a different Matt Green when he plays then because he definitely is a hard working forward and i'd describe him as more of a Nahki Wells than a James Hanson of the two. He clearly isn't settled in West London if he's willing to take a pay cut to return close to home.. spent all of his career up north bar Wimbledon.

Posted by: queenybantam07, June 13, 2019, 4:33pm; Reply: 114
Quoted from LocalLadGTFC


We must watch a different Matt Green when he plays then because he definitely is a hard working forward and i'd describe him as more of a Nahki Wells than a James Hanson of the two. He clearly isn't settled in West London if he's willing to take a pay cut to return close to home.. spent all of his career up north bar Wimbledon.



Okay mate, I’m not here for a slanging match - I really don’t care what Hanson does or who he might sign for.  

But money does dictate - especially for an ageing, out of form striker whose being paid a decent salary in the league above. I can only presume Wimbledon will cover the shortfall - but they’re skint.
Posted by: sam gy, June 13, 2019, 4:36pm; Reply: 115
You know him better than us, of course...but at 31 is he really now classed as an 'ageing' striker? And for someone who struggles with injuries, he still played 30 games last season...
Posted by: queenybantam07, June 13, 2019, 4:45pm; Reply: 116
Quoted from sam gy
You know him better than us, of course...but at 31 is he really now classed as an 'ageing' striker? And for someone who struggles with injuries, he still played 30 games last season...


Well, for the wage he’ll demand, you won’t see a great return for your money IMO.

As mentioned, he hardly had a great scoring record when he was half alright, but ten goals in his last 90 appearances should tell you all you need to know; and as you’ve just alluded to, half of them came last season.

Good option to bring on late in the game.
Posted by: psgmariner, June 13, 2019, 4:47pm; Reply: 117
I want us to sign Lee Evans.
Posted by: Meza, June 13, 2019, 6:06pm; Reply: 118
Quoted from Ashby mariner
What did Nathan Arnold say about Green?


He said its the best smoke he's ever had 😂😂
Posted by: ROKERITE, June 13, 2019, 6:20pm; Reply: 119
Quoted from queenybantam07


Okay mate, I’m not here for a slanging match - I really don’t care what Hanson does or who he might sign for.  

But money does dictate - especially for an ageing, out of form striker whose being paid a decent salary in the league above. I can only presume Wimbledon will cover the shortfall - but they’re skint.


Well I hope he wouldn't be as disappointing as Charlie Wyke has proved to be.

Posted by: ROKERITE, June 13, 2019, 6:33pm; Reply: 120
A quick look at the Wimbledon message-board (a strange format) has a few comments appreciating Hanson's contribution to their recent "great escape" while suggesting that it's probably time to move on.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 13, 2019, 6:54pm; Reply: 121
Re Hanson and queenie’s Wimbledon wage comment: it’s a lot cheaper living in Lincs than SW London.
Posted by: psgmariner, June 13, 2019, 8:08pm; Reply: 122
Presume he will move back to Bradford with his mrs.
Posted by: sam gy, June 13, 2019, 8:30pm; Reply: 123
Feel like A big forward in the Hanson mould is exactly what we were missing last season. A big presence to hold the ball up, bully and occupy defenders, leaving another striker or attacking midfielder to bomb on and put the ball in the net.

I really don’t care about his goal scoring record...that’s obviously not where his strengths lie and never has been by the looks of it. We mention them time and time again, but Rees, Livvo, Woods were not big goalscorers, but they were brilliant forward players.
Posted by: Meza, June 13, 2019, 8:43pm; Reply: 124
Quoted from sam gy
Feel like A big forward in the Hanson mould is exactly what we were missing last season. A big presence to hold the ball up, bully and occupy defenders, leaving another striker or attacking midfielder to bomb on and put the ball in the net.

I really don’t care about his goal scoring record...that’s obviously not where his strengths lie and never has been by the looks of it. We mention them time and time again, but Rees, Livvo, Woods were not big goalscorers, but they were brilliant forward players.


Also would be an added threat from set pieces, I seen a few highlights of him mainly on tv, and has scored a few with his head.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, June 15, 2019, 10:57am; Reply: 125
It would not surprise me if we are wrong about the manager's priorities. He may well decide there are enough forwards at the club now with five without signing anymore. Using Green with one of Cardwell, Cook, Rose or Vernam might be his first selection.

Perhaps the next signing might be somebody to create chances, that goalscoring midfielder we need.
Posted by: Les Brechin, June 15, 2019, 11:09am; Reply: 126
It would not surprise me if we are wrong about the manager's priorities. He may well decide there are enough forwards at the club now with five without signing anymore. Using Green with one of Cardwell, Cook, Rose or Vernam might be his first selection.

Perhaps the next signing might be somebody to create chances, that goalscoring midfielder we need.


What's Craig Disley up to these days?  ;)
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