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Posted by: crusty ole pie, June 3, 2019, 10:28pm
I can never remember a preseason when our manager as been so anonymous since the release of the retained list I don’t recall any statements from him, let’s hope he is beavering away in his cheapside bunker and at some point make our hairs on our neck stand up.

Posted by: sam gy, June 3, 2019, 10:34pm; Reply: 1
It’s probably always been like this, only before we didn’t have the means to constantly refresh Twitter/The Fishy waiting for transfer announcements and new content from the club.

I doubt any clubs in our league have signed many yet, have they? It’s only June 3rd.
Posted by: FrazerGTFC, June 3, 2019, 10:34pm; Reply: 2
He’s got a hard sell to do
Posted by: grimsby pete, June 3, 2019, 10:49pm; Reply: 3
He could be in Sweden talking to possible signings.
Posted by: OllieGTFC, June 4, 2019, 4:36am; Reply: 4
From what his wife put on Instagram they are in France, so probably getting players there 😏
Posted by: jonnyboy82, June 4, 2019, 6:35am; Reply: 5
Quoted from grimsby pete
He could be in Sweden talking to possible signings.


Oh man that has a ring to it.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, June 4, 2019, 2:54pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from jonnyboy82


Oh man that has a ring to it.



;D



Posted by: promotion plaice, June 4, 2019, 3:19pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from grimsby pete
He could be in Sweden talking to possible signings.


Let's hope Jolley does a bit better second time around then because as much as I like Ohman he always looks like a sending off waiting to happen and Ring is going to have to improve considerably to convince me, here's hoping.

Posted by: mariner tommy, June 4, 2019, 11:29pm; Reply: 8
I think Ohman is excellent, to me he is a fully committed centre half.
But Ring ?, not good enough in my opinion
If we have serious aspirations of doing well next season it will not be with Ring at left back, or wing back, whatever you wish to call his position.

UTM
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 5, 2019, 1:14am; Reply: 9
Based on nothing more than if he played in the Allsvenskan he must be half decent, I reckon Ring will come good. Second season syndrome like Jones the Stick (but different position of obviously).
Posted by: LondonMariner43, June 5, 2019, 7:59am; Reply: 10
People seem to forget that both Ring and Ohman joined straight from the off season in Sweden, with no pre-season.  Ring has said himself that he needs to do better next season.  I hate how players can get written off by Town fans so quickly.
Posted by: Civvy at last, June 5, 2019, 9:19am; Reply: 11
Quoted from LondonMariner43
I hate how players can get written off by Town fans so quickly.


I think you mean fans in general.

I hate how some traits of football fans in general sometimes get attributed to just ‘town’ fans !!

However your point is valid as such. Some folk need to give players a chance. We expect a manager to have a full season, including pre-season before being judged. Let’s afford players the same chance.
Posted by: Mariner93er, June 5, 2019, 9:57am; Reply: 12
It's not a matter of pretending that other fans don't do the same things, but we're talking within the context of Grimsby Town so why reference other fans.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, June 5, 2019, 10:21am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Civvy at last


I think you mean fans in general.

I hate how some traits of football fans in general sometimes get attributed to just ‘town’ fans !!

However your point is valid as such. Some folk need to give players a chance. We expect a manager to have a full season, including pre-season before being judged. Let’s afford players the same chance.


Maybe he hates how Town fans write off players quickly but doesn’t give a excrement how fans of other clubs behave.
Posted by: Civvy at last, June 5, 2019, 10:51am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Mariner93er
It's not a matter of pretending that other fans don't do the same things, but we're talking within the context of Grimsby Town so why reference other fans.


You don’t have to reference other fans. But if it’s a general thing you don’t have to reference ‘Town’ either.  It infers it’s a Town fan’ issue when in fact it’s an issue with fans in general.
I do admit it’s a pet hate of mine when someone seems to think it’s typically ‘Town’ or  ‘the fishy’ when actually it’s typical of fans or forums worldwide.
Posted by: grimsby pete, June 5, 2019, 11:25am; Reply: 15
Ring is a young man who has taken a very big decision to move to another country to ply his trade,

Given he was in his own countries close season when he came into our team it was not surprising he might have struggled at first ,we have seen this many times in the prem when a highly rated player failed to shine in his first season,

I expect a big improvement from him this coming season and if he does not deliver he should be thanked for his effort and for trying to improve himself in a different environment  .
Posted by: Maringer, June 5, 2019, 11:37am; Reply: 16
I'm slightly concerned that Ring looked a bit slow and also lightweight. Otherwise a decent enough footballer with the ball at his feet, but you need to be able to cope with the physical side of the game and, ideally, you want a wing-back to have a bit of pace.

Hopefully, he'll come back after the summer and show a good deal of improvement.

Ohman seemed to lunge in a bit rather too often. Probably wouldn't have been an issue a decade ago, but we know that referees are now instructed to severely penalise strong challenges which could be considered 'dangerous'. The number of red cards we have received in recent seasons which would barely have merited a yellow in 10 or 20 years ago must be high.

Hopefully, we'll have a bit more of an effective shape to the team next season which would mean Ohman isn't exposed as much and therefore can avoid the strong, lunging challenges for which he was often penalised. If I was going to be cynical, I'd say that players in top half teams probably get away with these more often than those lower down the table so fingers-crossed, we can make a decent push for the play-offs!
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 5, 2019, 12:49pm; Reply: 17
I like Ring personally and like others think he will do much better after having this pre season and hopefully he will be more accustomed to Lg 2.
Posted by: Civvy at last, June 5, 2019, 12:59pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from 1mickylyons
I like Ring personally.  .


So I’ve heard.  !!!

(ymca)
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 5, 2019, 1:15pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Civvy at last


So I’ve heard.  !!!

(ymca)


We`re not all sailors here sunshine and your turn in the barrel went on longer than most 8)
Posted by: LondonMariner43, June 5, 2019, 1:27pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Civvy at last


I think you mean fans in general.

I hate how some traits of football fans in general sometimes get attributed to just ‘town’ fans !!

However your point is valid as such. Some folk need to give players a chance. We expect a manager to have a full season, including pre-season before being judged. Let’s afford players the same chance.


Fair point - other clubs’ fans probably do it too but I don’t read their sites or care what they think.  I’d like to think Town fans are paragons for fair mindedness!

Posted by: Civvy at last, June 5, 2019, 1:30pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from 1mickylyons


We`re not all sailors here sunshine and your turn in the barrel went on longer than most 8)


That’s coz it was my fuking barrel 😉.


But back on topic. It will be interesting to see him after a full pre-season with us.  I think he will be ok.  I hope so because I doubt MJ will just be looking to have him as cover.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 5, 2019, 1:37pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Civvy at last


That’s coz it was my fuking barrel 😉.


But back on topic. It will be interesting to see him after a full pre-season with us.  I think he will be ok.  I hope so because I doubt MJ will just be looking to have him as cover.


Got all the attributes for a modern day wingback my main concern with him he gave away a lot of needless freekicks but at the time I put that down to lack of fitness and his reading of the English game . I think he will suprise a few of his critics and Town fans though much maligned by some generally get behind anyone who gives 100% he will become a fans favourite IMO.
Posted by: Rik e B, June 7, 2019, 8:33am; Reply: 23
Let him get a proper pre-season behind him then any judgements will be a bit fairer.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, June 7, 2019, 11:48am; Reply: 24
Quoted from Rik e B
Let him get a proper pre-season behind him then any judgements will be a bit fairer.


But isn't that the point? You hope to get as many players as possible having the same preseason together. Fitness, strength,tactics etc to gel as a unit.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, June 7, 2019, 12:09pm; Reply: 25
A new player especially one from overseas is always bound to take some time to fit in. Our problem as fan`s we want,need and expect any newbies to hit the ground running and clearly Ring wasn`t . I think he will be a good player for us and will look far better next Season now fit.
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