That's how I feel with 3 games to go...
Sick of feeling so hopeful at the beginning of each season and getting to the end of the season feeling completely deflated, fed up and wondering why I bothered to spend most weekends and the odd mid week night watching such tripe.  
For those who, including myself, thought Jolley was the answer with his young, hungry, badged up to the hilt attitude, then I'm afraid weve all been sold a pup...
Times up for the board, the manager, the over priced burger vans and the clapped our stadium..
I sit tonight with the realisation we are no longer a club to be proud of, but one which is on its knees with no shoots of recovery..if it were a lame horse it would be shot and sent to the glue factory...
Sick, I feel so sick...

Agreed 😞

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

That's how I feel with 3 games to go...
Sick of feeling so hopeful at the beginning of each season and getting to the end of the season feeling completely deflated, fed up and wondering why I bothered to spend most weekends and the odd mid week night watching such tripe.  
For those who, including myself, thought Jolley was the answer with his young, hungry, badged up to the hilt attitude, then I'm afraid weve all been sold a pup...
Times up for the board, the manager, the over priced burger vans and the clapped our stadium..
I sit tonight with the realisation we are no longer a club to be proud of, but one which is on its knees with no shoots of recovery..if it were a lame horse it would be shot and sent to the glue factory...
Sick, I feel so sick...

But dare I say you'll probably be there on Monday NBM, even though most of us already know it's probably going to be a hiding to nothing?

Everything about the club is so outdated, even the manager who seemed to be full of fresh ideas seems to sound weary and passing the buck.

Cheer up Jeff we have been worse than this , not a lot but worse,

I think most of us thought Jolley was the man to take us up the league the trouble is he does not seem to be learning by his mistakes,

Lets give a little more time to get the right players in who can play the way he wants them.

We need 2 strikers who can convert the  passes the other new men give them into goals,

Will that happen ?  we will know by the time the season starts and by the quality of the new signings.

If we are not happy with the signings then relegation threatens again.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

But dare I say you'll probably be there on Monday NBM, even though most of us already know it's probably going to be a hiding to nothing?

Of course I will, hoping beyond hope we win, same disillusioned hope I have every time we play...and that makes the sickness all the worse...it's like a slow death, somehow wish we could just send the club to Switzerland and get it over and done with tbh..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Of course I will, hoping beyond hope we win, same disillusioned hope I have every time we play...and that makes the sickness all the worse...it's like a slow death, somehow wish we could just send the club to Switzerland and get it over and done with tbh..

Brought a smile to my face.....

The closest we might get to Switzerland will be if Jolley finally gives our young boys a run-out but more than likely it'll be the old guard again seeing over our terminal decline

Carlisle are going for it at the moment too. 1 point off Exeter in 7th, they will definitely be up for it Monday.

If we are the good counter attacking team that MJ thinks we are then we might just be in for a treat on Monday. Unfortunately I think Carlisle will cast us to one side with ease.

Always have been proud of the club. Just not proud of the custodians.

Am sick as my little lads in a&e and the better half is about to give birth to our second offspring.

Have a pint and chill mate.

I think we have to calm down now seeing as we are safe and see what signings we make in the summer before we get too disillusioned..

Notts County, Yeovil and Macclesfield fans will be wondering what we are moaning about I suppose.

I still live in hope....fool me.

Not looking forward to next season. It was really promising around January and I thought we were moving up but we've just fallen flat on our face.

Three seasons back in the Football League.

First season we were in with a chance of the play offs when Bignot all of a sudden  starts pussyfooting around with a team on the edge of the play offs and season finishes with a wimper rather than a bang.

Second season in and Slade almost takes us back from whence we'd recently came. Saved at the last minute by Jolley.

Third season in and see 1st season, heading towards playoffs and then wallop - we hit mediocrity big time and plummet down the league.

Three seasons in, and it's one step forward and two steps back. Four managers, no improvement. One de facto club chairman, no initiative.

Fourth season? Without removing the de facto chairman repeat 1,2,3 ad nauseum.....

There's something badly wrong. And it starts at the top with John Fenty. He wants out, and I believe him, but he's taking his 200k a year out of the playing budget. And that's a 3k+ a week striker (plus nat ins etc). He's in no rush, he's looking for as much of the 3 million plus quid in shares and loans (benign my bottom), back as possible. Does he deserve to get out with all his money back? After almost relegating us to non league THREE times and actually RELEGATING US FROM THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE? It'll take him 15 years at 200k a year and who can blame him for not putting any more money in, and who would WANT him to?

Not for me, we need to apply pressure. He needs to name his price (he's never done this) and he needs to go. And he needs to go soon, we can't trust him to keep us out of the national league, I can see where we are going with these winless runs, and it's back to the flipping Dog and Duck.

Quoted from jock dock tower

Three seasons back in the Football League.

First season we were in with a chance of the play offs when Bignot all of a sudden  starts pussyfooting around with a team on the edge of the play offs and season finishes with a wimper rather than a bang.

Second season in and Slade almost takes us back from whence we'd recently came. Saved at the last minute by Jolley.

Third season in and see 1st season, heading towards playoffs and then wallop - we hit mediocrity big time and plummet down the league.

Three seasons in, and it's one step forward and two steps back. Four managers, no improvement. One de facto club chairman, no initiative.

Fourth season? Without removing the de facto chairman repeat 1,2,3 ad nauseum.....

first season back we would have made the play offs if wer hadnt sold Bogle, or rather Bogle didnt sell himself.  Bignot was unlucky in that reapect

What saddens me is the spurned potential. The people running the show without the ability to capitalise. The crowds that want something to get behind.
It's there waiting, but there's nobody at the club with enough talent to capture the imagination and give the supporters something exciting and worthy of their money and dedication. Since we were returned to the league we have made an absolute dogs dinner of it and totally killed the rekindled pride and optimism with dismal failure and dreary, cheapo survivalism. Shame.

Get a bleedin' grip everyone.  Firstly, let's decouple the issues of Fenty (on which I think we all agree) and Jolley (differences of opinion)

This is MJ's first season in proper management and he's done some things really well and has also made mistakes, but he's shown enough to deserve our backing.  He's managing with one hand tied behind his back and is a rookie.  If he's honest he'll be admitting he hasn't cracked his formation (maybe because the players available for the money aren't good enough) and has misfired with a few signings, especially Welsh who has been an expensive let-down.

But for all those mistakes, he will learn from them in the way he puts together his squad for next season.  He's blooded or made into regulars some good young players (Clifton, Pollock, Burrell and Rose A) and hopefully will give Max Wright a game before the season ends.  He'll know the sorts of characters he needs and those he can do without.

I think to expect playoffs this season was always unrealistic.  We were all happy with mid table and not being in danger of going down, and so it has transpired.  

I think Jolley will keep improving, and would love to see him look at the following:

-  Reconsider 352 if the personnel aren't up to it
-  Prioritise a striker in the summer window
-  Consider relaxing his "live in the area" rule if it would help get one or two more signings over the line
-  Be bold in his backroom staff demands and keep pressing the board
-  Make the team far more cynical and streetwise
-  Pick an outfield captain to enforce the point above
-  Allow himself a "luxury player" a la Dembele, to give himself more of a creative attacking element

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

Get a bleedin' grip everyone.  Firstly, let's decouple the issues of Fenty (on which I think we all agree) and Jolley (differences of opinion)

This is MJ's first season in proper management and he's done some things really well and has also made mistakes, but he's shown enough to deserve our backing.  He's managing with one hand tied behind his back and is a rookie.  If he's honest he'll be admitting he hasn't cracked his formation (maybe because the players available for the money aren't good enough) and has misfired with a few signings, especially Welsh who has been an expensive let-down.

But for all those mistakes, he will learn from them in the way he puts together his squad for next season.  He's blooded or made into regulars some good young players (Clifton, Pollock, Burrell and Rose A) and hopefully will give Max Wright a game before the season ends.  He'll know the sorts of characters he needs and those he can do without.

I think to expect playoffs this season was always unrealistic.  We were all happy with mid table and not being in danger of going down, and so it has transpired.  

I think Jolley will keep improving, and would love to see him look at the following:

-  Reconsider 352 if the personnel aren't up to it
-  Prioritise a striker in the summer window
-  Consider relaxing his "live in the area" rule if it would help get one or two more signings over the line
-  Be bold in his backroom staff demands and keep pressing the board
-  Make the team far more cynical and streetwise
-  Pick an outfield captain to enforce the point above
-  Allow himself a "luxury player" a la Dembele, to give himself more of a creative attacking element

Its his players who are not capable of 3-5-2.....
Striker - talk about staing the obvious
Didnt know we had a 'live in the area' policy, its ridiculous if we do, whose going to upsticks for a 1 / 2 year contract, especially if they have kids
what backroom staff? Please dont tell me its a fitness coach ffs
Cynical? Number of Red Cards would suggest we aint that nice anyway
Captain - makes little difference, unless your Roy Keane
Dembele was crap

Jeez if people here are feeling like this about town, i cant begin to imagine how Notts County fans are feeling right now.
Yes we havent won in a while but we are far from staring down the trap door into non league again

Welsh lived in Liverpool, didn't he?

We have had a right up and down season but it has not all been bad,

Yes we are on a bad run and we have had a few of those but we have had a couple of good runs as well as the odd average run.

To me that says we do not have the players who can perform week in week out and we have a rookie manager,

Next season could be the chance that MJ is no longer the rookie and we have the players that can do it every week,

If that does not happen then the gates will go down Jolley might be sacked and non league could be our future for the next decade or more.

The only bright spot on the horizon is Fenty might give MJ the funds to do the job required or he walks away,

BUT

I doubt none of those things will happen and we will skirt just above the drop zone again and again.All hope of success eludes me at present.

The amusing thing to me is this expectation that we are somehow entitled or expected to excel each season.. and then people are upset that we are just not climbing the table season after season.

At least we have had relatively recent success in terms of our promotion back to league football. There are 24 clubs in league two... some of them will get promoted, some of them will get relegated. Meanwhile, the majority are destined to do neither and just sit somewhere mid or lower end of the table and be average. Maybe we are just going to have to settle for being average for a while and with that comes periods of form and periods of bad form.

I genuinely don’t believe we will get a more interesting and enthusiastic manager at this level (though we seem to be doing a good job of beating that out of him) and genuinely feel that with the right support from the club he can still deliver us success in years to come.. but we have to get over being so drunk off at the mediocre performances. We are safe this season.. we had some high points this season.. and just accept that there needs to be higher level changes in the club in order to effect real change. If constant rotation of management and players has delivered no real success in years then surely there is something else wrong with the formula.

Besides, it could be a lot worse.

Quoted from chicaneuk

The amusing thing to me is this expectation that we are somehow entitled or expected to excel each season.. and then people are upset that we are just not climbing the table season after season.

At least we have had relatively recent success in terms of our promotion back to league football. There are 24 clubs in league two... some of them will get promoted, some of them will get relegated. Meanwhile, the majority are destined to do neither and just sit somewhere mid or lower end of the table and be average. Maybe we are just going to have to settle for being average for a while and with that comes periods of form and periods of bad form.

I genuinely don’t believe we will get a more interesting and enthusiastic manager at this level (though we seem to be doing a good job of beating that out of him) and genuinely feel that with the right support from the club he can still deliver us success in years to come.. but we have to get over being so drunk off at the mediocre performances. We are safe this season.. we had some high points this season.. and just accept that there needs to be higher level changes in the club in order to effect real change. If constant rotation of management and players has delivered no real success in years then surely there is something else wrong with the formula.

Besides, it could be a lot worse.

I don't think promotion was expected by most on here at the start of the season but challenging for a play off place should have not been too optimistic .

Also hardly anybody is calling for Jolley to be sacked they all want him to have a better budget,

The only person most want gone is Fenty.

Quoted from chicaneuk

The amusing thing to me is this expectation that we are somehow entitled or expected to excel each season.. and then people are upset that we are just not climbing the table season after season.

At least we have had relatively recent success in terms of our promotion back to league football. There are 24 clubs in league two... some of them will get promoted, some of them will get relegated. Meanwhile, the majority are destined to do neither and just sit somewhere mid or lower end of the table and be average. Maybe we are just going to have to settle for being average for a while and with that comes periods of form and periods of bad form.

I genuinely don’t believe we will get a more interesting and enthusiastic manager at this level (though we seem to be doing a good job of beating that out of him) and genuinely feel that with the right support from the club he can still deliver us success in years to come.. but we have to get over being so drunk off at the mediocre performances. We are safe this season.. we had some high points this season.. and just accept that there needs to be higher level changes in the club in order to effect real change. If constant rotation of management and players has delivered no real success in years then surely there is something else wrong with the formula.

Besides, it could be a lot worse.

Agree with most of that and it’s clear that the mediocrity comes from how the whole club is run rather than just the playing side. However I don’t think it unreasonable to expect something a little better than what we’ve had since 2005.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I don't think promotion was expected by most on here at the start of the season but challenging for a play off place should have not been too optimistic .

Also hardly anybody is calling for Jolley to be sacked they all want him to have a better budget,

The only person most want gone is Fenty.

Even I've come round to the idea now that Fenty probably needs to go after years of not understanding why he was so disliked. I think for me it was some of the disastrous press releases he put out around 18 months ago that swayed my opinion. It's like the guy just doesn't understand how to handle PR at all.. and that's fine cause it's clearly a skill that not everyone has. But when someone like myself can read a statement that he puts out as a chairman of a league football club,(and I certainly have no experience of how to do PR) and it makes me shiver from head to toe with embarrassment... he has to realise it's not something he's cut out to do :)

Yes, I'm grateful that he's put some money into the club over the years but I feel now we're stuck in a limbo where nothing will really change. Is it possible we might be worse off if he goes? Yes. But it gives us the chance to try and find another way forward, for better or worse.

Quoted from chicaneuk

Even I've come round to the idea now that Fenty probably needs to go after years of not understanding why he was so disliked. I think for me it was some of the disastrous press releases he put out around 18 months ago that swayed my opinion. It's like the guy just doesn't understand how to handle PR at all.. and that's fine cause it's clearly a skill that not everyone has. But when someone like myself can read a statement that he puts out as a chairman of a league football club,(and I certainly have no experience of how to do PR) and it makes me shiver from head to toe with embarrassment... he has to realise it's not something he's cut out to do :)

Yes, I'm grateful that he's put some money into the club over the years but I feel now we're stuck in a limbo where nothing will really change. Is it possible we might be worse off if he goes? Yes. But it gives us the chance to try and find another way forward, for better or worse.

You couldn't understand why he was so disliked?

Have you only just started being a supporter? You need to look up the history of the past 16 years as I can't be bothered to go through it all again.

As for your comment about fans expecting us to excel, just not being around the bottom two would be nice.

Quoted from arryarryarry

You couldn't understand why he was so disliked?

Have you only just started being a supporter? You need to look up the history of the past 16 years as I can't be bothered to go through it all again.

As for your comment about fans expecting us to excel, just not being around the bottom two would be nice.

I really only started to follow town around the season when we got demoted to non league. And honestly whilst I am a fan, I guess I am not as invested in it as some folks are..  I follow the results, dip into the forum occasionally and go to 4-5 games a season.

We do our PR on the pitch and for that reason since our return to the league we have been left just being relieved that we reach safety with a few games to go.

The top of the tree needs thinning out, there is no sunshine coming through because a couple of vine weeds have gotten into the canopy.

I take you back to Marley's statement when he said one investor said why should he invest because all you get is dogs abuse. Marley didn't say what his reply to the potential investor to sway him like, there's a bit of turmoil at the minute but when the going is good it is fantastic to be involved with the club. More like oh ok then, such defeatist attitude stems from the boardroom, Fenty in almost every interview claims a bit of victim hood in his statements and how we should all be grateful for yours truly. There is no drive and determination coming from the top that resonates through the club, so we are left with the hype to sell tickets followed by relief when we are safe with a few games to go at the end of the season, always hoping there is worse teams than ourselves, call ourselves supporters how can you support something that doesn't have fabric to support itself.

We all need to just turn up and take whats on offer because one day, yes one day that bit of football fortune will come along and everything will be ok, no drive, determination is require because something will fall out of the sky into our laps and then we can give the hero worship JF's is truly owed.

Can't wait for next season, I'm sure we will be at least in the Playoff places. First there is next seasons fixture list, all the transfer speculation, then a few friendlies,  then down to the real thing. I felt this way then we played Forest Green....oops. Still will always be excited by a New Season. Not forgetting England as well. I live in hope!!

You really have to scratch around to find anything positive at the moment. Last season ended so well it generated its own excitement that took us over the summer. I have never felt less excited about the prospects for next year than I can remember for a very long time and I am generally a positive, optimistic person. I dread to think of how more negative people are feeling.

Our current run of 10 games without a win is nearly a quarter of a season.

In addition to that sobering thought, we have virtually no attacking intent, and have only scored more than once in a handful of games.

In the close season we will be among the favourites for the drop, and the chances of getting any notable signings with that prospect and a lower table budget are fast disappearing over the horizon.

I think it is about time those that run the club realised this is a full blown crisis; yes we have avoided the drop, wow, but we are not even treading water.

Something has gone badly wrong, just like it did in the second half of the Slade season. Fenty and Co. need to do something about it - the board, the manager the players and everyone * connected with the club need to get togerther and sort it out.

If Fenty is not going, then he needs to take charge of the situation, and not just making the manager take the blame; Jolley does take a lot of the blame on the playing side, no doubt about it, but the malaise runs much deeper and it is about time the board did something to address the problems at GTFC.

Something radical has to happen soon; too many people are becoming disenchanted with GTFC, and the future along the same lines looks bleak.

* Not the fans who have been the only good thing in this fiasco. We have been incredibly patient.  
  

Could we worse....at least we haven't spent a fortune to be shite.

FT  Everton 4-0 Man Utd

I bet a few Man Utd fans are also feeling sick at the moment, it's all gone tiits up since Olly was given the job    8)

i have just watched the highlights from Colchester,,,i feel sick now.

Cannot believe the ineptness in almost every clip...plenty of players behind the ball but virtually every one of them ball watching or ball chasing...no one seemed aware of other players off the ball....proper schoolboy defending.

But for the woodwork, goal line clearances and several fine stops by Macca we could have been  4 or 5 down easily.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Always have been proud of the club. Just not proud of the custodians.

Am sick as my little lads in a&e and the better half is about to give birth to our second offspring.

Have a pint and chill mate.

I hear you, mate. I was in A+E with one of mine yesterday too after 90 minutes of anguish.
It puts things into perspective, for sure. Hope the little one and your wife (and the new one) are all fine.
Best