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Posted by: grimsby pete, April 12, 2019, 11:04am
Please correct me if I am wrong BUT I do not recall Town appointing an inexperienced manager who failed  and was sacked by us who then went on to be a success elsewhere.

So MJ  will be aware of this which will make him even more determined to get it right,

I think and hope he will learn from his mistakes this season and be a better manager next .

How much success he can achieve will of course  be relient on what budget he recieves,

Whatever it his we will be safe from returning to non league which make make a few happy BUT the majority will want a big improvemet  expecting promotion might be a step too far too soon though.

Making the play offs would be a great season finishing above halfway would give him another season.

However finishing in the lower half might be the end of his management career and  us been relegated would mean his last job as a manager and going back to coaching younger players alsewhere or back to banking.

I feel positive he will go from strenght to strenght and make a success of things here BUT only if he listens to advice from senior managers that have done it all before, We have Alan Buckley in the town who am sure could add pearls of wisdom to a young and upcoming manager if asked.

We must expect anybody that starts a new role in any job will make mistakes the ones who learn from them make a success of what they are doing and the ones who dont fall by the wayside.

Lets all hope MJ is the one who learns and we should all back him to try and improve his chances and of course bring success to our club.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, April 12, 2019, 11:42am; Reply: 1
Pete, reference your point in speaking with experienced Managers I have heard both Buckley and Jolley say they have held regular discussions over a coffee. Unfortunately, to date, it does not appear that MJ has used any words of wisdom that may have been passed on to the benefit of our performances on the pitch.

Like others I am really hoping this season has been a real learning experience and he will deliver massive improvements next year.
Posted by: pizzzza, April 12, 2019, 11:43am; Reply: 2
Quoted from grimsby pete
Please correct me if I am wrong BUT I do not recall Town appointing an inexperienced manager who failed  and was sacked by us who then went on to be a success elsewhere.



Depends how you define success. Brian Laws had a long managerial career after Town sacked him and was even managing in the Premier League at one point. Paul Groves established himself as a coach for clubs in the higher leagues. I'm sure they have both done very well out of the game and would consider themselves to have had successful careers.
Posted by: RonMariner, April 12, 2019, 2:15pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from pizzzza


Depends how you define success. Brian Laws had a long managerial career after Town sacked him and was even managing in the Premier League at one point. Paul Groves established himself as a coach for clubs in the higher leagues. I'm sure they have both done very well out of the game and would consider themselves to have had successful careers.


Bit harsh to call Groves a failure. He kept us up in the championship against all the odds. Given the circumstances, our relegation the following season was nailed on. Would have been another  miracle if he had kept us up.

Regarding Laws, he took us to 10th in the Championship in his first season and I don't think we went down with him in charge.

Yes they were sacked, but I don't think it's fair to call them failures.
Posted by: Abdul19, April 12, 2019, 2:46pm; Reply: 4
I think failure is fair enough when you're in charge of a side that lost 8-1 to Hartlepool, 6-0 to Oldham, 5-1 to Port Vale and 4-1 to Tony Adams's Wycombe.
Posted by: Ipswin, April 12, 2019, 3:05pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from grimsby pete
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How much success he can achieve will of course  be relient on what budget he recieves,


Obviously the budget will be an important factor but there are two others which, whatever the budget, need to be met and which Jolley cannot blame anyone but himself for if he fails

1 How he spends it (any idiot can get rid of loads of cash and end up with duffers) and

2 Will he be able to mould any signings from a large budget into a team and will his tactics work (if he replaced Klopp or Guardilola tomorrow would City and Liverpool still top the league?)

I suppose most will continue to blame Fenty however much is in the budget

Posted by: RonMariner, April 12, 2019, 3:17pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Abdul19
I think failure is fair enough when you're in charge of a side that lost 8-1 to Hartlepool, 6-0 to Oldham, 5-1 to Port Vale and 4-1 to Tony Adams's Wycombe.


Yes, he had some bad results, and you could pick out some horrific scores for almost any manager, but he faced a near impossible task at the time.  
Posted by: Abdul19, April 12, 2019, 10:29pm; Reply: 7
In the second tier, yes. I'm not so sure about the third. I think being such a brilliant player clouds how bad that season was a bit.
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