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Posted by: ska face, January 27, 2019, 4:57pm
Good read on their chairman Alan Hardy this morning, quite similar to Fenty in a lot of ways -

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/jan/26/alan-hardy-notts-county-league-two-football-league


Though for all Fenty’s faults, he’s not managed to publicly tweet a picture of his member, unlike Hardy this morning!

https://twitter.com/alanhardytweets/status/1089494152902000640?s=21
Posted by: buckstown, January 27, 2019, 5:31pm; Reply: 1
What a good read. "There but for the grace of god go I...."
Posted by: Fishy_fishtails, January 27, 2019, 5:51pm; Reply: 2
Wow. Just wow.
Posted by: Barrattstander, January 27, 2019, 6:07pm; Reply: 3
[tweet]1089558722261762048[/tweet]

This bloke gets better and better!
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, January 27, 2019, 6:30pm; Reply: 4
Sometimes, social media provides moments of pure comedy gold!!!
Posted by: jamesgtfc, January 27, 2019, 6:40pm; Reply: 5
It will be even funnier if he never sent that picture to his wife!

Interestingly there is also a screenshot from Peterborough United's feed next to the incriminating picture, presumably confirming that Steve Evans is available!
Posted by: Mikoo, January 27, 2019, 8:17pm; Reply: 6
Just been announced he's put the club up for sale
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 27, 2019, 8:23pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Mikoo
Just been announced he's put the club up for sale


Bet he has more success than you know who.

Posted by: toontown, January 27, 2019, 8:38pm; Reply: 8
Classic! 😁
Posted by: Poojah, January 27, 2019, 8:53pm; Reply: 9
Whilst not ignoring the fact we’ve had our own trials and tribulations over the years, what an absolute car crash that club is at the minute.

Let’s not forget they were spunking six figure sums on the likes of Kristian Dennis in the summer - I’d be shocked if their wage bill wasn’t approaching double ours. I can’t imagine they’d have had the sense to include relegation clauses into their contracts either.

If they go down, and it’s difficult to see that not happening at this stage, I can see real, real problems for them going forward.
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 27, 2019, 9:32pm; Reply: 10
Wow what an absolute member
Posted by: Poojah, January 27, 2019, 9:46pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Poojah
Whilst not ignoring the fact we’ve had our own trials and tribulations over the years, what an absolute car crash that club is at the minute.

Let’s not forget they were spunking six figure sums on the likes of Kristian Dennis in the summer - I’d be shocked if their wage bill wasn’t approaching double ours. I can’t imagine they’d have had the sense to include relegation clauses into their contracts either.

If they go down, and it’s difficult to see that not happening at this stage, I can see real, real problems for them going forward.


Scratch that, wage bill is around £3m according to this article in The Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/jan/26/alan-hardy-notts-county-league-two-football-league

Sheer madness.
Posted by: fishboyUTM, January 27, 2019, 9:48pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Poojah


Scratch that, wage bill is around £3m according to this article in The Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/jan/26/alan-hardy-notts-county-league-two-football-league

Sheer madness.


Ours is a standard for the division £2m isn't it?
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, January 27, 2019, 9:53pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Mariner Timsky
Wow what an absolute member


I think the warm water of the bath probably helped but it's thoughtful of you to compliment him after what must have been a really tough day.
Posted by: LH, January 27, 2019, 9:57pm; Reply: 14
He’s shown a lot of balderdash today. Seriously though do you think he woke up this morning expecting to put the club up for sale by teatime?
Posted by: Meza, January 27, 2019, 10:05pm; Reply: 15
See that's how you officially put a club up for sale unlike us.  Atleast he's prepared to fund the club.  Should he have stuck with Nolan?
Posted by: Poojah, January 27, 2019, 10:06pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from fishboyUTM


Ours is a standard for the division £2m isn't it?


I’d have thought waaay less than that. I could be wrong but I thought our max in the Conference years was around £900k (and less than that the year we actually went up).

I haven’t actually totted up how many senior players we’ve got, but based on a 25 man squad £2m equates to an average annual salary of £80k per year or £1.5k per week. Im sure we’ll have players on the books earning that and probably a bit above, but I can’t believe we’ll be anywhere close as an average.

I could be completely wrong though.
Posted by: fishboyUTM, January 27, 2019, 10:26pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Poojah


I’d have thought waaay less than that. I could be wrong but I thought our max in the Conference years was around £900k (and less than that the year we actually went up).

I haven’t actually totted up how many senior players we’ve got, but based on a 25 man squad £2m equates to an average annual salary of £80k per year or £1.5k per week. Im sure we’ll have players on the books earning that and probably a bit above, but I can’t believe we’ll be anywhere close as an average.

I could be completely wrong though.


As we are a PLC, the books are published and freely available to anybody. I've included the link at the bottom.

Although playing and none playing staff are not seperated, the wage bill was £2.361 financial year. No idea really what the playing and non playing staff earned. Maybe £1.5m playing staff?

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Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, January 28, 2019, 12:09am; Reply: 18
I’d be amazed if they didn’t go down now.
Posted by: pizzzza, January 28, 2019, 9:10am; Reply: 19
Quiz time... should County go down, which club will then become the oldest football league club?
Posted by: barralad, January 28, 2019, 9:22am; Reply: 20
Quoted from pizzzza
Quiz time... should County go down, which club will then become the oldest football league club?


Stoke City
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 28, 2019, 9:22am; Reply: 21
When they drop the oldest FL Club will then be Stoke

Was having this chat just the other day with my Forest supporting friend

Notts C est 1862
Stoke est 1863
Forest est 1865
Posted by: ska face, January 28, 2019, 9:33am; Reply: 22
Our last away trip of the season is at Meadow Lane, also their last home match. Could be interesting if there’s anything riding on it.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, January 28, 2019, 9:48am; Reply: 23
Quoted from ska face
Our last away trip of the season is at Meadow Lane, also their last home match. Could be interesting if there’s anything riding on it.


Well they will see 2k+ Town fan`s waving them bye bye. It`s a real shame but the Club have been massively let down by the owner and lack of a proper plan. The wage bill for them is horrendous and they need to quickly accept they ARE going to be relegted and offload player`s and get that cut for starters.Hard times for them but they can only hope they can bounce straight back as oppossed to Luton,Grimsby,Lincoln and Tranmere who all had a lengthy spell in the NL.I remember being Hartlepool`s feeder club what ever happened to them?
Posted by: Davec, January 28, 2019, 9:53am; Reply: 24
Maybe Alan Hardy by taking a picture of his tackle was auditioning for role in Hooters as a male waiter?
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 28, 2019, 10:01am; Reply: 25
Quoted from ska face
Our last away trip of the season is at Meadow Lane, also their last home match. Could be interesting if there’s anything riding on it.


Could well be an interesting away day this one and they could well be down by then!

They still have plenty of points to play for but just 4 wins so far it doesn't look good at all

Wasn't they a promotion favorite at the start of the season??

Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 28, 2019, 10:02am; Reply: 26
Quoted from Rodley Mariner


I think the warm water of the bath probably helped but it's thoughtful of you to compliment him after what must have been a really tough day.


My comment was on him NOT his member!!

Just like to clarify that  ;)
Posted by: TwoLeftFeet, January 28, 2019, 11:23am; Reply: 27
Quoted from pizzzza
Quiz time... should County go down, which club will then become the oldest football league club?


Saw an article this morning that said Stoke's first recorded match was 1868 and they were liquidated in 1908 so this would make Notts Forest founded in 1865 the oldest club.. double whammy that for Clownty if true
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, January 28, 2019, 2:59pm; Reply: 28
Stoke isn’t it?
Posted by: jock dock tower, January 28, 2019, 3:20pm; Reply: 29
Stoke, they had their Centenary vs Real Madrid in 1963 at the old Victoria Ground. Stanley Matthews played in that game.
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 28, 2019, 3:22pm; Reply: 30
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/jan/26/alan-hardy-notts-county-league-two-football-league
Posted by: mariner91, January 28, 2019, 3:29pm; Reply: 31
Forest.
Posted by: rancido, January 28, 2019, 5:28pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from Poojah
Whilst not ignoring the fact we’ve had our own trials and tribulations over the years, what an absolute car crash that club is at the minute.

Let’s not forget they were spunking six figure sums on the likes of Kristian Dennis in the summer - I’d be shocked if their wage bill wasn’t approaching double ours. I can’t imagine they’d have had the sense to include relegation clauses into their contracts either.

If they go down, and it’s difficult to see that not happening at this stage, I can see real, real problems for them going forward.



Earlier in the season, after Chesterfield got relegated, there manager said in an article that he had reduced their playing wage bill by £25,000 a week!
Posted by: GrimRob, January 28, 2019, 6:08pm; Reply: 33
Definitely a case of a mistimed tackle
Posted by: jock dock tower, January 28, 2019, 7:59pm; Reply: 34
Rememebr the Notts County League Cup tie back in 1979=80 which was where the impeccable minute's silence was heard for Paddy Hamilton, the late Town chairman. Town were inspired and beat a Don Masson led County 3-1 to set up the tie with Everton.
Posted by: Meza, January 28, 2019, 8:45pm; Reply: 35
League Cup 🤔. I thought it was the milk cup.
Posted by: promotion plaice, January 28, 2019, 8:58pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Meza
League Cup 🤔. I thought it was the milk cup.


It was the League Cup in the 1979/80 season.

"Milk Cup – The first major trophy to be sponsored in English football was the League Cup, supported by the Milk Marketing Board between 1981 and 1986."
Posted by: Meza, January 28, 2019, 9:07pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from promotion plaice


It was the League Cup in the 1979/80 season.

"Milk Cup – The first major trophy to be sponsored in English football was the League Cup, supported by the Milk Marketing Board between 1981 and 1986."


Thanks PP I didn't know.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 28, 2019, 9:20pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from jock dock tower
Rememebr the Notts County League Cup tie back in 1979=80 which was where the impeccable minute's silence was heard for Paddy Hamilton, the late Town chairman. Town were inspired and beat a Don Masson led County 3-1 to set up the tie with Everton.


Really good game that in the days when night games used to kick off at 7.30
Posted by: TownSNAFU5, January 28, 2019, 10:56pm; Reply: 39
I did not go to that 3-1 win over Notts County but remember reports of how good we were.  The team were inspired to do Paddy Hamilton credit.  

And I believe we wiped the floor with them.  Weren’t they 2 divisions higher than us at the time?
Posted by: jock dock tower, January 29, 2019, 9:56am; Reply: 40
Just the one SNAFUS. They got promoted to the old First Division with that team a season or two later. We were 3rd Division when we beat them.
Posted by: acko338, January 29, 2019, 5:08pm; Reply: 41
Mitch Rose joins them today !!!

There must be some budget now available with Famewo gone back as well !!
Posted by: chrissy, January 29, 2019, 5:35pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from acko338
Mitch Rose joins them today !!!

There must be some budget now available with Famewo gone back as well !!


Has Rose gone ? I did not know that.
Posted by: Roast Em Bobby, January 29, 2019, 6:44pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from jock dock tower
Rememebr the Notts County League Cup tie back in 1979=80 which was where the impeccable minute's silence was heard for Paddy Hamilton, the late Town chairman. Town were inspired and beat a Don Masson led County 3-1 to set up the tie with Everton.


My first game, hooked from that day onwards
Posted by: RonMariner, January 30, 2019, 12:35pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from jock dock tower
Rememebr the Notts County League Cup tie back in 1979=80 which was where the impeccable minute's silence was heard for Paddy Hamilton, the late Town chairman. Town were inspired and beat a Don Masson led County 3-1 to set up the tie with Everton.


Yes, I remember that. A magical evening.
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 30, 2019, 2:37pm; Reply: 45
Craig Mackail-Smith joins them today till end of the season

Always liked him as a player

Massive push for them needed to avoid the drop
Posted by: kamakazebear, January 30, 2019, 2:43pm; Reply: 46
Quoted from Mariner Timsky
Craig Mackail-Smith joins them today till end of the season

Always liked him as a player

Massive push for them needed to avoid the drop


My go to signing whenever playing on FM. Hope he isn't as prolific for them as he was for me!
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, January 30, 2019, 2:44pm; Reply: 47
Gotta be one of the most signed players on FM!!  ;D
Posted by: crusty ole pie, January 30, 2019, 6:40pm; Reply: 48
Quoted from kamakazebear


My go to signing whenever playing on FM. Hope he isn't as prolific for them as he was for me!


What relevance is FM to real life ffs
Posted by: Posh Harry, January 30, 2019, 7:10pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from crusty ole pie


What relevance is FM to real life ffs


Absolutely. Surely everyone’s on Dab nowadays 🙂
Posted by: forza ivano, January 30, 2019, 7:13pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from crusty ole pie


What relevance is FM to real life ffs


Got no idea what you're talking about.radio 4 on long wave is the way forward!
Posted by: jock dock tower, January 30, 2019, 7:34pm; Reply: 51
WTF's Dab, bar a small flatty?
Posted by: ginnywings, January 30, 2019, 7:49pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from jock dock tower
WTF's Dab, bar a small flatty?


With dab, you don't flounder.
Posted by: rancido, January 30, 2019, 7:53pm; Reply: 53
[quote=799]

With dab, you don't flounder.[/quote


…. and it's much easier to plaice!
Posted by: dapperz fun pub, January 30, 2019, 8:28pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from jock dock tower
Rememebr the Notts County League Cup tie back in 1979=80 which was where the impeccable minute's silence was heard for Paddy Hamilton, the late Town chairman. Town were inspired and beat a Don Masson led County 3-1 to set up the tie with Everton.


Did we take a football special train  that night ..
Posted by: The_Laughing_Mariner, January 30, 2019, 8:28pm; Reply: 55
You get an automatic tuna
Posted by: moosey_club, January 30, 2019, 8:37pm; Reply: 56
Quoted from kamakazebear


My go to signing whenever playing on FM. Hope he isn't as prolific for them as he was for me!


Andy Mutch for me...but probably a much earlier version of FM.  :)
Posted by: kamakazebear, January 30, 2019, 9:02pm; Reply: 57
Quoted from moosey_club


Andy Mutch for me...but probably a much earlier version of FM.  :)


We're not allowed to talk about FM on here unfortunately  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: barralad, January 30, 2019, 10:00pm; Reply: 58
Quoted from dapperz fun pub


Did we take a football special train  that night ..


It was at home?
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 30, 2019, 10:13pm; Reply: 59
Quoted from forza ivano


Got no idea what you're talking about.radio 4 on long wave is the way forward!


Are they still eating listeners' cakes on TMS?
Posted by: forza ivano, January 30, 2019, 11:01pm; Reply: 60
Quoted from KingstonMariner


Are they still eating listeners' cakes on TMS?


Of course.couldnt be TMS if there weren't any cakes
Posted by: 137 (Guest), January 31, 2019, 3:14am; Reply: 61
Quoted from jock dock tower
Rememebr the Notts County League Cup tie back in 1979=80 which was where the impeccable minute's silence was heard for Paddy Hamilton, the late Town chairman. Town were inspired and beat a Don Masson led County 3-1 to set up the tie with Everton.


Bobby Cumming was on fire that night. He terrorized their defence all night.

The atmosphere in the ground was quite incredible. I was in the Osmond and the noise around me was magnificent. A match where the whole ground was singing...wonder when/if well see that again.

UTM






Posted by: Les Brechin, January 31, 2019, 9:48am; Reply: 62
Was it Gary Lund who scored a header from a Wilko corner that night in front of The Pontoon, or was it Wilko who scored a header from a Lundy corner. I remember the goal but not sure round which way it was!
Posted by: The_Laughing_Mariner, January 31, 2019, 9:51am; Reply: 63
Neither of those played that night
Posted by: RoboCod, January 31, 2019, 9:57am; Reply: 64
Quoted from Les Brechin
Was it Gary Lund who scored a header from a Wilko corner that night in front of The Pontoon, or was it Wilko who scored a header from a Lundy corner. I remember the goal but not sure round which way it was!


I remember the occasion but little details other than a great display, though I'm sure I saw a Gary Liddell goal.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 31, 2019, 10:31am; Reply: 65
Quoted from Les Brechin
Was it Gary Lund who scored a header from a Wilko corner that night in front of The Pontoon, or was it Wilko who scored a header from a Lundy corner. I remember the goal but not sure round which way it was!


That'd have been the later League Cup run if anything. 1984?
Posted by: Les Brechin, January 31, 2019, 10:35am; Reply: 66
Quoted from KingstonMariner


That'd have been the later League Cup run if anything. 1984?


You're correct. I'm getting a bit mixed up. That was the FA Cup replay in 1984 when we beat them 4-2 at BP in a replay.
Posted by: buckstown, January 31, 2019, 9:49pm; Reply: 67
Think Notts have now brought 8 players in so it sounds like survival or bankruptcy, possibly both.
Hopefully it'll take10 games for the new players to gel
Posted by: 1mickylyons, February 1, 2019, 6:40am; Reply: 68
They got Doyle in from Coventry who looks to be a good signing but they are so far behind I can`t see them staying up?
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, February 1, 2019, 7:17am; Reply: 69
Quoted from 1mickylyons
They got Doyle in from Coventry who looks to be a good signing but they are so far behind I can`t see them staying up?


Agree a very good signing but their next 5 fixtures are:

Lincoln (h)
Forest Green (a)
Mansfield (h)
Newport (h)
Tranmere (a)

So that’s a pretty tough run of fixtures for any side but particularly one st bottom of the league. These will probably decide their fate as a good result here and there confidence will soar 3 or4 points and then massive uphill struggle
Posted by: Helgy, February 1, 2019, 8:29am; Reply: 70
They have signed lots of players but it's if they gel, having a 38 man squad is just stupid at this level.

They have to sign the right players to be able to fit in straight away so thats a lot of pressure very toxic at Notts talked to an ex Notts player the other day and he confirmed that.

Posted by: oochiad, February 1, 2019, 8:37am; Reply: 71
Rose certainly has a big task ahead of him.......
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, February 1, 2019, 9:28am; Reply: 72
Quoted from oochiad
Rose certainly has a big task ahead of him.......


They need to win a lot of pen's!!

Posted by: 1mickylyons, February 1, 2019, 10:01am; Reply: 73
Be nice if Rose gets them a win with a controversial penalty tomorrow
Posted by: buckstown, February 1, 2019, 10:10am; Reply: 74
I believe we used 43 players the year we went down which is some indication of the chaos. Difficult to believe they're going to play Lincoln with virtually a new team. You'd think they need 12 hours training today which will be interesting in this weather
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, February 1, 2019, 10:13am; Reply: 75
They have signed some good players but there are so many they will need post-it stickers on their foreheads to identify themselves to each other. It is asking a lot to gel that many into almost a brand new team with their fixture list and the very short time for training and organising.

If they do go down though there could be some bargains for us to pick up in the summer! ;)
Posted by: Mariner Timsky, February 1, 2019, 10:13am; Reply: 76
I'm predicting 3-0 to the Imps tomorrow in the top v bottom clash

Also Mansfield v Macc tomorrow 2nd top v 2nd bottom

Posted by: oochiad, February 1, 2019, 10:59am; Reply: 77
I’m hoping both Lincoln and Mansfield win as do we, so the gap gets bigger!
Posted by: supertown, February 1, 2019, 11:07am; Reply: 78
Quoted from oochiad
I’m hoping both Lincoln and Mansfield win as do we, so the gap gets bigger!


Stop looking down
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