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Posted by: RoboCod, January 26, 2019, 7:52pm
What a poor, misguided intro to the footy world this is getting. On top of our own annoying VAR intervention recently and various others, the Everton/Millwall game will add more pressure onto it's proposed usage, surely?
Millwall basically equalised, and went on to win the game with a clear handball incident leading to their 2nd goal. Play the game at Premier Everton and VAR correctly intervenes. But it's played at non-Premier Millwall and thus not an option.
Farcical, a great idea ruined by the usual poor implementation from the authorities.

Posted by: Manchester Mariner, January 26, 2019, 8:01pm; Reply: 1
Even more controversial when the handball was then shown on the stadium screen for players, fans and the ref all to see.
Posted by: ska face, January 26, 2019, 8:02pm; Reply: 2
About 20 mins into that match the young Milwall right back went straight through and Everton player, yellow all day long. Yet he referee let it go and Jonathan Pearce commenting went on at length about how that was the right decision “given it’s an FA Cup tie, given the scale of the tie, the timing of the challenge” etc, and that the common sense approach was correct.


Where the intercourse was that conversation when Fox got dragged off after 114 seconds?

Bent illegitimates, the lot of em.
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, January 26, 2019, 8:02pm; Reply: 3
And Harris was screaming for them to stop showing it!!...
Posted by: fishboyUTM, January 26, 2019, 8:02pm; Reply: 4
I'm a fan of VAR. Anything to stop the outright cheating. But it is merely a tool and isn't always going to get it right as it depends on your interpretation.

Look at todays red card. I've seen the incident a dozen times now and I'm still not sure if it was a red or not. I'm edging towards not, but many people can't agree on it. Would VAR have helped?
Posted by: 140381 (Guest), January 26, 2019, 8:05pm; Reply: 5
Everton were shite.
Posted by: Abdul19, January 26, 2019, 8:08pm; Reply: 6
Rounded off my Man U, Watford and Millwall treble nicely.
Posted by: Mikey_345, January 26, 2019, 8:11pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from fishboyUTM
I'm a fan of VAR. Anything to stop the outright cheating. But it is merely a tool and isn't always going to get it right as it depends on your interpretation.

Look at todays red card. I've seen the incident a dozen times now and I'm still not sure if it was a red or not. I'm edging towards not, but many people can't agree on it. Would VAR have helped?


I think that’s why it’s important the ref in the middle makes the decision if it’s not an offside decision.

A bloke in a studio miles away isn’t the refere and the technology should be there to help the official in the middle so they have to be the ones to review and interpret what they are seeing, like in the WC.
Posted by: RoboCod, January 26, 2019, 8:12pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from 140381
Everton were shite.

Oh they needed more than a VAR setup. They may have some sway in getting the FA to look at this lopsided VAR at Premier grounds nonsense though.
Posted by: Gaffer58, January 26, 2019, 8:37pm; Reply: 9
I thought that at last summers World Cup the referees seem to allow the game to continue hoping VAR would then intervene thus taking the responsibility of the ref.
Posted by: moosey_club, January 26, 2019, 8:46pm; Reply: 10
The FA really should be sued or brought to account as the clubs have entered a competition in which the games are no longer played on an even footing..that surely must be grounds for a legal challenge ?
Posted by: GrimRob, January 26, 2019, 9:10pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from RoboCod
What a poor, misguided intro to the footy world this is getting. On top of our own annoying VAR intervention recently and various others, the Everton/Millwall game will add more pressure onto it's proposed usage, surely?
Millwall basically equalised, and went on to win the game with a clear handball incident leading to their 2nd goal. Play the game at Premier Everton and VAR correctly intervenes. But it's played at non-Premier Millwall and thus not an option.
Farcical, a great idea ruined by the usual poor implementation from the authorities.



No different to other sports. VAR is only installed on the show courts at the bigger tournaments. Players on the smaller courts even at places like Wimbledon cannot appeal.
Posted by: RoboCod, January 26, 2019, 9:33pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from GrimRob


No different to other sports. VAR is only installed on the show courts at the bigger tournaments. Players on the smaller courts even at places like Wimbledon cannot appeal.


By and large the decisions overruled in tennis are just line calls and such, the equivalent of the ball over the line in football that mostly brought about VAR. Borderline red card challenges, handballs etc in football add up to a lot more for officials to rule over than a ball basically ping pong-ing to and fro.
The game's getting more pressured, more at stake and more complicated and it needs officiating to a better, fairer standard. VAR could make it better, but using it at ALL FA Cup games is what would make it fairer.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, January 26, 2019, 10:01pm; Reply: 13
VAR is male masturbation. It’s there for telly and the big teams to reduce the financial jeopardy . Telly is there to witness the game, not influence it.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 26, 2019, 10:08pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from moosey_club
The FA really should be sued or brought to account as the clubs have entered a competition in which the games are no longer played on an even footing..that surely must be grounds for a legal challenge ?


There might be, but quantifying damages would be next to impossible as no one can show that they would have remained in the competition with a different scenario (VAR or no VAR).

The current situation is like playing the game with no linesmen in some games and with in others.

The FA was more fit for purpose when it was dominated by fuddy-duddy 'blazers' rather than incompetent 'innovators'.
Posted by: WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP, January 26, 2019, 10:11pm; Reply: 15
Its stupid, keep VAR for the premier league where decisions mean multimillions depending on european places or relegations, fair enough have at it but keep the fa cup for the fans
Posted by: Abdul19, January 26, 2019, 10:19pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from moosey_club
The FA really should be sued or brought to account as the clubs have entered a competition in which the games are no longer played on an even footing..that surely must be grounds for a legal challenge ?


They haven't been for a few years, since whenever goal line technology was brought in.
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