... based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass”, our old manager Bill Shankly once said.

I once sat on a train near a legendary Liverpool forward and manager, who told me that football is a straightforward game that has been over-complicated by suits and iPads. This is something that has stuck with me and that I’m reminded of every time I watch GTFC play and hear Jolley speak.

In spite of the suits, the strength and conditioning coach (and additional coaches that MJ brought in) it hasn’t helped with our injuries (if anything that’s got worse), we still look unfit and we’re still shite.

Jolley needs to ditch the fancy, pretentious tactics, throw Limbrick’s daft ringbinder in the bin and revert to 442. Why not play with wingers who get balls in the box (we barely cross balls under Jolley) and go back to basics. Whether it’s Jolley’s flawed tactics or the players not taking it in, it needs to change.

Would go with:

                        McKeown

    RHJ     Whitmore    Collins    Famewo

Max Wright   Welsh   Hessenthaler  Cook (played left with Luton)

             Akheem Rose    Thomas

  

Collins is no longer good enough and is often the cause of many of the goals we concede, either by not marking his man and standing around in space or by just constantly falling back and inviting the pressure and players to rattle off shot after shot, rather then standing up to strikers or driving them wide, its a shame as I liked Collins the last two season but this year apart from the Lincoln game he's played excrement.

Quoted from davmariner

... based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass”, our old manager Bill Shankly once said.

I once sat on a train near a legendary Liverpool forward and manager, who told me that football is a straightforward game that has been over-complicated by suits and iPads. This is something that has stuck with me and that I’m reminded of every time I watch GTFC play and hear Jolley speak.

In spite of the suits, the strength and conditioning coach (and additional coaches that MJ brought in) it hasn’t helped with our injuries (if anything that’s got worse), we still look unfit and we’re still shite.

Jolley needs to ditch the fancy, pretentious tactics, throw Limbrick’s daft ringbinder in the bin and revert to 442. Why not play with wingers who get balls in the box (we barely cross balls under Jolley) and go back to basics. Whether it’s Jolley’s flawed tactics or the players not taking it in, it needs to change.

Would go with:

                        McKeown

    RHJ     Whitmore    Collins    Famewo

Max Wright   Welsh   Hessenthaler  Cook (played left with Luton)

             Akheem Rose    Thomas

  

At least MJ will be pleased that you wouldn't pick Vernam either.

and Michael Jolley seems to be a really nice bloke...

But it’s its time he grew a pair; kicked the squad, and himself up the @rse and got them to earn their wages.  I’m fed up of watching teams push us and we back pedal; we push and the opposition show some backbone and our attack ends up with a frantic back pass to Macca.
We’re from Grimsby FFS
Let’s perform like a Grimsby team and NOT some Home Counties numpties... who incidentally won today cos we let em

Fed up but...
UTM

Strewth. I’m glad I’m not in the trenches with you lot.

Of course it’s a work in progress but no one in their right mind expects Rome to be built in a day.

If I was MJ I would pick myself as the main striker seeing as nobody else can do the job,
                                                                                                                         Mike Lyons.

Trenches? Front line is at Boston. Back to Blighty!

Quoted from davmariner

... based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass”, our old manager Bill Shankly once said.

I once sat on a train near a legendary Liverpool forward and manager, who told me that football is a straightforward game that has been over-complicated by suits and iPads. This is something that has stuck with me and that I’m reminded of every time I watch GTFC play and hear Jolley speak.

In spite of the suits, the strength and conditioning coach (and additional coaches that MJ brought in) it hasn’t helped with our injuries (if anything that’s got worse), we still look unfit and we’re still shite.

Jolley needs to ditch the fancy, pretentious tactics, throw Limbrick’s daft ringbinder in the bin and revert to 442. Why not play with wingers who get balls in the box (we barely cross balls under Jolley) and go back to basics. Whether it’s Jolley’s flawed tactics or the players not taking it in, it needs to change.

Would go with:

                        McKeown

    RHJ     Whitmore    Collins    Famewo

Max Wright   Welsh   Hessenthaler  Cook (played left with Luton)

             Akheem Rose    Thomas

  

Out of curiosity and without having to name names.  Did said ex-striker have any success in management?

We've had injury issues for donkeys years.  The new approach has been in place for a few months. New coaches and technology don't account for the shoddy training facilities we have at Cheapside.  We're not all of a sudden training at St George's.

If there is a total change in the approach to training, it can easily take 3 months to see a benefit, until such we are going to see injuries as players are adjusting. The Whitehouse injury was unfortunate but my most of the longer injuries are from players who were here last season, perhaps their bodies aren't use to modern demands, i.e not just running round a field with a baseball capped manager blowing his whistle on every lap.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Out of curiosity and without having to name names.  Did said ex-striker have any success in management?

We've had injury issues for donkeys years.  The new approach has been in place for a few months. New coaches and technology don't account for the shoddy training facilities we have at Cheapside.  We're not all of a sudden training at St George's.

If there is a total change in the approach to training, it can easily take 3 months to see a benefit, until such we are going to see injuries as players are adjusting. The Whitehouse injury was unfortunate but my most of the longer injuries are from players who were here last season, perhaps their bodies aren't use to modern demands, i.e not just running round a field with a baseball capped manager blowing his whistle on every lap.

Where are we going to be before we see a benefit? Bottom of the league? Relegated? Relegated twice?

As a reminder, this is what the assistant manager said before we got dicked at Bury

https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2018/september/freeview--anthony-limbrick-there-are-signs-of-progress/

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Where are we going to be before we see a benefit? Bottom of the league? Relegated? Relegated twice?

As a reminder, this is what the assistant manager said before we got dicked at Bury

https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2018/september/freeview--anthony-limbrick-there-are-signs-of-progress/

It'll take more than 9 games. I thought that much was obvious in the summer.  As I've said before, I'm not happy with how things are on the pitch but we can't keep sacking people because everything doesn't go our way all the time.

Do you want a long term plan (not saying Jolley is the man who can/will deliver that or not) or the same old same old?
I want us to at least attempt something with longer term thinking. For the time, Jolley is the man to lead on that.

Talking of passing if this lot had to pass the pis pot we'd all be covered in pis

That's a great contribution.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Out of curiosity and without having to name names.  Did said ex-striker have any success in management?

We've had injury issues for donkeys years.  The new approach has been in place for a few months. New coaches and technology don't account for the shoddy training facilities we have at Cheapside.  We're not all of a sudden training at St George's.

If there is a total change in the approach to training, it can easily take 3 months to see a benefit, until such we are going to see injuries as players are adjusting. The Whitehouse injury was unfortunate but my most of the longer injuries are from players who were here last season, perhaps their bodies aren't use to modern demands, i.e not just running round a field with a baseball capped manager blowing his whistle on every lap.

Yes, he was very successful as a manager with multiple top-flight clubs.

Don’t  necessarily agree with your team selection but everything else you’ve said is spot on.