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Posted by: Cloudy, August 13, 2018, 3:46pm
Young Cardiff striker interesting Town?
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, August 13, 2018, 4:03pm; Reply: 1
Gordon Bennet, not another name thrown out there to add to all the rest who never materialised....best forget speculation and open up a thread on if, who and when we actually sign someone...
Posted by: Hagrid, August 13, 2018, 4:10pm; Reply: 2
Who
Posted by: forza ivano, August 13, 2018, 4:10pm; Reply: 3
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/who-cardiff-citys-new-goal-12490211

sounds the type of player we've been asking for
Posted by: Hagrid, August 13, 2018, 4:11pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from forza ivano


Thanks Forza
Posted by: ginnywings, August 13, 2018, 4:17pm; Reply: 5
Had a few loan spells and scored goals wherever he's been, so looks a decent shout if true.
Posted by: Gaffer58, August 13, 2018, 4:29pm; Reply: 6
With Cardiff now being premier they are loaded so may agree to pay all his wages. Mr Fenty would be well chuffed.
Posted by: Garth, August 13, 2018, 4:46pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Gaffer58
With Cardiff now being premier they are loaded so may agree to pay all his wages. Mr Fenty would be well chuffed.


As if, ---------------Lets see if we can get him over the line first
Posted by: oldun, August 13, 2018, 4:55pm; Reply: 8
Warnock says he cannot go anywhere because he has played for 2 teams. Don't understand but that is what it says in the article.
Posted by: chaos33, August 13, 2018, 4:55pm; Reply: 9
Noted that he'd done his ACL before he was 24.
Posted by: StaffsMariner, August 13, 2018, 4:58pm; Reply: 10
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Quoted from oldun
Warnock says he cannot go anywhere because he has played for 2 teams. Don't understand but that is what it says in the article.


The article is from January last year.

Posted by: Brazilnut, August 13, 2018, 4:59pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from oldun
Warnock says he cannot go anywhere because he has played for 2 teams. Don't understand but that is what it says in the article.


you cant play for more than 2 teams in a season......but that article was Jan 17 so it doesnt matter this season
Posted by: moosey_club, August 13, 2018, 5:00pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from oldun
Warnock says he cannot go anywhere because he has played for 2 teams. Don't understand but that is what it says in the article.


Think the article was from last year ...Jan 2017 ?? unless i have misread the banner...if thats the case then it would it have been Slade who would have been interested wouldnt it ?
Posted by: grimsby pete, August 13, 2018, 5:09pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Cloudy
Young Cardiff striker interesting Town?


Have you heard this from a reliable source Cloudy or are you just putting his name in the hat.?
Posted by: the driver, August 13, 2018, 5:13pm; Reply: 14
What I want to know is what team does Gordon Bennet play for and is he any good
Posted by: Mariner_09, August 13, 2018, 5:23pm; Reply: 15
It’ll be that from the same source that Cloudy told us that Remie Streete was signing.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, August 13, 2018, 5:47pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from chaos33
Noted that he'd done his ACL before he was 24.


So did I and look at me now










🚕
Posted by: HertsGTFC, August 13, 2018, 5:47pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Northbank Mariner
Gordon Bennet, not another name thrown out there to add to all the rest who never materialised....best forget speculation and open up a thread on if, who and when we actually sign someone...


I can't seem to find anything on Gordon Bennet when I looked, is he a relation of Ryan? ;)
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, August 13, 2018, 6:24pm; Reply: 18
Score 6 in 8 on loan at Torquay last season.

Could br a good addition if true
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, August 13, 2018, 7:05pm; Reply: 19
You'd have to be a bit concerned if he was looking for his third club of this season regardless of the rules. Could be an interesting one.
Posted by: Meza, August 13, 2018, 7:13pm; Reply: 20
Was the stand out player for me when he was at Newport on loan.
Posted by: Mariner93er, August 13, 2018, 7:23pm; Reply: 21
If we play with 433 more often, do we have enough room for another striker when there's only 1 space each game.
Posted by: chaos33, August 13, 2018, 7:26pm; Reply: 22
I don't get that.

Yes.
Posted by: golfer, August 13, 2018, 8:08pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from moosey_club


Think the article was from last year ...Jan 2017 ?? unless i have misread the banner...if thats the case then it would it have been Slade who would have been interested wouldnt it ?


If Slade was interested we don't want him. But seriously I  can't see Torquay paying his full wages so I assume if we got him on loan we would only be paying a percentage,
Posted by: Davec, August 14, 2018, 6:09am; Reply: 24
I know you sometimes hear a couple of whispers Cloudy, so are you just suggesting a name or have you genuinely heard something?
Posted by: dicko995, August 14, 2018, 9:08am; Reply: 25
on Cardiff forum.
Re: Cardiff City:Premier League new boys consider EFL loan o
by Bakedalasker » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:58 am
soldierblue1880 wrote:
Keep Pilkington and Tomlin send out Paterson and Peltier,both not Premiership quality


Oh dear someone has dropped a clanger here.

Ok back on track. I thought Tomlin would be given the chance but obviously has not impressed enough. Pilkington struggled to get into the team last season but when he did he scored some important goals. Healey has not managed to get back to his best since his injury and I have a feeling he wont either. O'Keefe totally forgot about him.
Posted by: promotion plaice, August 14, 2018, 12:56pm; Reply: 26

"According to Wales Online, the striker is set for a loan move to the Mariners as he goes in search of first team football".

http://www.insidewalessport.co.uk/grimsby-interested-striker-rhys-healey/
Posted by: acko338, August 14, 2018, 1:14pm; Reply: 27
We have had a habit of resurrecting strikers with poor records in previous seasons, so if he joined, then this management team could possibly get good results from him, as we hope they will from Vernam, Cook and Hooper.

Another player in may push Cardwell further out of the picture, as he is still recovering from injury.

Nothing wrong with healthy competition, and would also like to see if the young Burnley lad can be signed on loan for the season for left back, with fond memories of Townsend racing down the wing as well as defending.

Be interesting to see the line up tonight - to gauge the manager's rating of competition importance - a good run would help coffers and also player team bonding.

There will be a pre match dressing room showing of all striker video goals so that they will all shoot on sight...... well... it helped Cook !! If Carlsberg did videos ???
Posted by: Jarmo.Is.God, August 14, 2018, 1:27pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from acko338
We have had a habit of resurrecting strikers with poor records in previous seasons, so if he joined, then this management team could possibly get good results from him, as we hope they will from Vernam, Cook and Hooper.

Another player in may push Cardwell further out of the picture, as he is still recovering from injury.

Nothing wrong with healthy competition, and would also like to see if the young Burnley lad can be signed on loan for the season for left back, with fond memories of Townsend racing down the wing as well as defending.

Be interesting to see the line up tonight - to gauge the manager's rating of competition importance - a good run would help coffers and also player team bonding.

There will be a pre match dressing room showing of all striker video goals so that they will all shoot on sight...... well... it helped Cook !! If Carlsberg did videos ???


I dont think 6 in 17 in league 2, 2 years ago & 6 in 8 in the league below last year is a poor record
Posted by: Brazilnut, August 14, 2018, 1:51pm; Reply: 29
How long has he left on his contract .... would he be a free agent at end of season ??
Posted by: Grantham_Mariner, August 14, 2018, 1:54pm; Reply: 30
Gallai wneud swydd ar y lefel hon




CDAJATL
Posted by: golfer, August 14, 2018, 4:12pm; Reply: 31
TNR--cyfieithu bron iawn
Posted by: Mikey_345, August 14, 2018, 11:26pm; Reply: 32
Seen a few negative comments about him on social media today, I really wish some would remember to take in to account two points when quoting a players scoring record at a SENIOR level;

1) Age
2) Amount of game time (consistency of it aswell).

This lads only 23. A player like this, at a premier league club currently,  you’d do better to look at their U23 record.
Posted by: dicko995, August 15, 2018, 5:04pm; Reply: 33
Lee Tomkin and Rhys Healey sent out for interview today. Lee Tomkin accepts Notts Forest,but wont be joining until January, still awaiting on Rhys verdict at Blundell Park.
Posted by: Cloudy, August 15, 2018, 5:07pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from dicko995
Lee Tomkin and Rhys Healey sent out for interview today. Lee Tomkin accepts Notts Forest,but wont be joining until January, still awaiting on Rhys verdict at Blundell Park.


Sent for interview?

;D ;D
Posted by: dicko995, August 15, 2018, 5:08pm; Reply: 35
I meeting then,u know wot I mean.
Posted by: dicko995, August 15, 2018, 5:16pm; Reply: 36
Change of heart from Notts Forest on Lee Tomlin.
Karanka on Lee Tomlin
He’s been linked with a move back to Nottingham Forest having spent the latter half of the 2017/18 season on loan at the City Ground.
But it seems Lee Tomlin is unlikely to re-join Forest this summer.
Here’s what Forest manager Aitor Karanka told the Nottingham Post.
“We have almost 30 players in the squad, so I prefer to focus on the players who I have in the squad,” said Karanka, when asked if there was any lingering interest in Tomlin. “We have two weeks of the window left, but the squad is complete now.
“Today, after the last game, no, it is not something we are thinking about.
“On August 31, five minutes before the deadline, if something surprising happens, who knows. But for today, no, I don’t think it is something we would look at.”
Aitor Karanka
Posted by: golfer, August 15, 2018, 7:29pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from Cloudy


Sent for interview?

;D ;D


On the stairs
Posted by: golfer, August 15, 2018, 7:47pm; Reply: 38
Don't you think we need somebody a bit bigger in height-he's not even 6ft tall-to be a target man which we definitely need.
Posted by: chaos33, August 15, 2018, 7:59pm; Reply: 39
Tony Rees was a bloody good target; held it up beautifully and was about 5' 10!
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 15, 2018, 8:09pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from golfer
Don't you think we need somebody a bit bigger in height-he's not even 6ft tall-to be a target man which we definitely need.


Henderson held it up well for Rochdale last night & he's not big.
Posted by: Maringer, August 15, 2018, 9:04pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from chaos33
Tony Rees was a bloody good target, held it up beautifully and was about 5' 10!


Don't think he was even that tall, myself. Knew how to use his body well (and, of course, we passed into feet quite well back then!).

Not sure the modern day referee would be happy with him taking a firm two-handed grip on the opponents shorts to keep them behind him which was Rees' stock in trade!
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, August 15, 2018, 9:35pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from golfer
Don't you think we need somebody a bit bigger in height-he's not even 6ft tall-to be a target man which we definitely need.


I see your point but does a target man necessarily need to be over 6ft?

For me Lenny is the best target man we've had in years and he was only 5'10 or 5'11.

In terms of target men, I was very impressed with Macclesfield's young striker Harry Smith who they've just signed from Millwall. He was huge,  easily 6'5/6'6, for a man of his size he was very mobile, held it up well, had a good touch and was technically very good. Someone like him would be perfect for us IMO! He's only 23 too so still has some growing and maturing to do.... Couod be one to keep an eye on.
Posted by: Mighty_Mariner, August 15, 2018, 9:41pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from MuddyWaters


Henderson held it up well for Rochdale last night & he's not big.


Great point 👍
Posted by: jamesgtfc, August 15, 2018, 9:52pm; Reply: 44
The problem I have with a big 6ft5 target man is that it increases the likelyhood we will just hoof the ball up under the slightest bit of pressure.

For me, holding the ball up and bringing others into play are the most important attributes from a target man. Most headed goals are scored from set plays where you are likely to have your tallest up for anyway.

In recent years, LJL was excellent at this. He often fed the ball wide and played the ball that led to an assist. These passes are nowhere to be seen in statistics so although his assist/goal return may have been poor at times, his contribution was important.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, August 15, 2018, 10:13pm; Reply: 45
All about movement - making space for others to run into is the key and losing the fear to attack the space - both of which have been lacking from our performances so far although Hess & Vernam tried their best last might. It needs to come from all areas though and one of our team last night didn't move at all.
Posted by: golfer, August 16, 2018, 7:28am; Reply: 46
I've said before  I would love L.J.L. back.
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 16, 2018, 8:20am; Reply: 47
LJL was a good target man but he was replaced by an even better one in Amond.

Amond wasn't big, strong or quick but he had great movement and knew how to hold the ball up.  He made himself a target for the pass rather than the traditional idea of a 6'4 target man who the ball is just lumped up towards for a flick-on.
Posted by: moosey_club, August 16, 2018, 10:36am; Reply: 48
Quoted from chaos33
Tony Rees was a bloody good target; held it up beautifully and was about 5' 10!


but in Rees's case defenders had the added difficulty of having to navigate around his tash to get the ball  :)
Posted by: marinerdazza, August 16, 2018, 10:41am; Reply: 49
Tony Rees was also a handy basketball player...

Loved him.
Posted by: RoboCod, August 16, 2018, 10:48am; Reply: 50
A real fiery temper too, which sometimes got the better of him but added to the sheer unpredictability of his play.
Posted by: Maringer, August 16, 2018, 11:26am; Reply: 51
The back-heel king. He must have spent hours in training practising his back-heels.  :)
Posted by: KingstonMariner, August 17, 2018, 12:00am; Reply: 52
And the Thigh Slapping King. He learned that in the hope of a post-football career in panto. He had one season at Great Yarmouth in male private Widdrington.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, August 17, 2018, 12:01am; Reply: 53
Quoted from diehardmariner
LJL was a good target man but he was replaced by an even better one in Amond.

Amond wasn't big, strong or quick but he had great movement and knew how to hold the ball up.  He made himself a target for the pass rather than the traditional idea of a 6'4 target man who the ball is just lumped up towards for a flick-on.


And he bagged as many goals in one season as the Shop did in 2 1/2
Posted by: Maringer, August 17, 2018, 7:03am; Reply: 54
Amond wasn't a target man. He just wasn't. Good movement and intelligent play but he covered half the ground off the shop. An entirely different type of player. They would probably complement each other.
Posted by: diehardmariner, August 17, 2018, 9:47am; Reply: 55
LJL chased things down into corners, he was relentless and never stopped hassling during his whole time here, regardless of the type of form he was in.  

Amond ran the line far more effectively than LJL ever did.  He made himself available for the best pass, if that was short, long or in the corners, he made himself a target for the passing man.  Shop didn't make himself a target, he reacted to where the ball went.  

Once the ball reached Amond, we kept it.  As hard as LJL tried, it often bounced off his head, knee, shin, whatever.
Posted by: monkeyboy, August 17, 2018, 9:49am; Reply: 56
The shop didnt score many but his alround game was good. perfect player to work along side a poacher.
Posted by: The Singing Fisherman, August 17, 2018, 9:53am; Reply: 57
Yeah he only scored 20 goals in one season but suppose he did miss about 40. UTM
Posted by: Tommy, August 17, 2018, 10:02am; Reply: 58
Quoted from diehardmariner
LJL chased things down into corners, he was relentless and never stopped hassling during his whole time here, regardless of the type of form he was in.  

Amond ran the line far more effectively than LJL ever did.  He made himself available for the best pass, if that was short, long or in the corners, he made himself a target for the passing man.  Shop didn't make himself a target, he reacted to where the ball went.  

Once the ball reached Amond, we kept it.  As hard as LJL tried, it often bounced off his head, knee, shin, whatever.


^ This.

A "target man" doesn't have to be a 6ft brute to challenge for headers. Amond could use his core strength and his body to shield the ball and ensure it stuck. His movement was also different class to anything we've seen at Town from a centre-forward since we played in the Championship (and still is).

I do wonder if the people going on about needing a big target man will be the same people complaining when we're slinging high balls up to this target man to challenge for in the air?
Posted by: marinerdazza, August 17, 2018, 10:02am; Reply: 59
Anyway, is Healey coming or what?
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, August 17, 2018, 10:08am; Reply: 60
If Healey is an out n out striker, not a bleeding target man, that's the last thing we need let alone want,  then get him, he's scored goals, still young and has a point to prove which should make hungry to score more....should he be in an LJL mould, forget it, it'll just be another..macca banging it out to the flank and hoping he can knock down or onto one of our players...
Posted by: grimsby pete, August 17, 2018, 10:15am; Reply: 61
Quoted from marinerdazza
Anyway, is Healey coming or what?


I doubt it very much.

After following Town for over 63 years my experience tells me,

We only sign a player before any news of him comes out,

The more time goes on and we read that we are interested in x y or z,

The less likely we are to sign them.

We will sign somebody soon but it will not be a name we have been talking about for weeks.
Posted by: Maringer, August 17, 2018, 10:29am; Reply: 62
I liked Amond as a player, I really did. Used movement and intelligence (not to mention clever nudges on defenders) to find space for his chances. I'd be happy enough if he was with us now as his record over the past couple of seasons shows he's likely get into the early teens goals-wise if played regularly in the League.

However, he wasn't a target man in any way, shape or form. Newport play him off a bigger striker, so did Hartlepool and so did we. The 'target man' I'm talking about is a physical presence who can shake up opposition defenders when the ball invariably breaks loose or loops up into the air, whose strength makes them the focal point of the attack and creates space for more clever players such as Amond. Not necessarily somebody to lump the ball to aerially because it is rare for big defenders to lose too many headers. It's just more difficult to tackle or manhandle somebody who isn't several inches shorter and a couple of stone lighter than yourself.

I don't think many teams at our level are skilful enough to play without a more 'physical' player or two in attack. If you're going to be short or slight, you've got to be quick and skilful, not to mention accurate with your passing. You only need to see how many counter-attacking chances we butcher through poor decision-making and passing to see we're unlikely to manage this with our current squad. Hence the need for a stronger player up front.
Posted by: Garth, August 17, 2018, 10:35am; Reply: 63
Quoted from marinerdazza
Anyway, is Healey coming or what?


I`m thinking the same as Pete, if Healey was a serious option it seems dead in the water, we will have to settle with What, whoever he is
Posted by: RoboCod, August 17, 2018, 11:01am; Reply: 64
Quoted from Garth


I`m thinking the same as Pete, if Healey was a serious option it seems dead in the water, we will have to settle with What, whoever he is


But Where will we play What?
Posted by: dicko995, August 17, 2018, 11:23am; Reply: 65
Update.
On players leaving on loan

NEIL WARNOCK:

"That’ll be decided before the end of the month. I’ve let certain players speak to clubs. One of the clubs wanted a player on loan to be on the bench tomorrow. I don’t know if that will come off but nobody’s going for definite yet."


Warnock on loan exits
Posted by: Posh Harry, August 17, 2018, 4:05pm; Reply: 66
Yeah he only scored 20 goals in one season but suppose he did miss about 40. UTM


He can’t have scored 20 in one season.

As far as I aware no one has ever run round BP with a sausage up their bottom 😉
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, August 24, 2018, 11:09am; Reply: 67
According to this article today, he appears to be heading to MK on loan until January >> http://www.insidewalessport.co.uk/cardiff-city-striker-healey-mk-dons/
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