...points for the season in the Spread Market. Fifth from bottom Lincoln are top.

[url]https://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/football/domestic-league-2/group_a.4d46c2e5-47e5-4aa9-9726-fcda00fc12d6/league-2-points-2018-19[/url]

Where are the value bets in that?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

...points for the season in the Spread Market. Fifth from bottom Lincoln are top.

[url]https://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/football/domestic-league-2/group_a.4d46c2e5-47e5-4aa9-9726-fcda00fc12d6/league-2-points-2018-19[/url]

Where are the value bets in that?

Can you explain how it works mate because I haven't got a clue ?   :)

Nor me

UTM

If you think we'll get more than 57.5 points then you buy. If you think we'll get less you sell. You pick a stake, say £2 and if you're right you get £2 for every point you're right.

So if you buy at £2 a point at 57.5 and we get 70 points you'll get 12.5 x 2 = £25.

However if we had an awful season and got 35 points you'd lose 22.5 x 2 = £45.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

If you think we'll get more than 57.5 points then you buy. If you think we'll get less you sell. You pick a stake, say £2 and if you're right you get £2 for every point you're right.

So if you buy at £2 a point at 57.5 and we get 70 points you'll get 12.5 x 2 = £25.

However if we had an awful season and got 35 points you'd lose 22.5 x 2 = £45.

Thanks for explaining, I've been spread betting since 1996, I'm one of the original clients of Sporting Index (never stake much) but its still not very mainstream I guess...

Can we buy at 30,5  ?  ;)

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

If you think we'll get more than 57.5 points then you buy. If you think we'll get less you sell. You pick a stake, say £2 and if you're right you get £2 for every point you're right.

So if you buy at £2 a point at 57.5 and we get 70 points you'll get 12.5 x 2 = £25.

However if we had an awful season and got 35 points you'd lose 22.5 x 2 = £45.

I think you need to explain that the stake is £2 x 57.5 (£115) that will be your initial stake if you choose to buy or sell

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

...points for the season in the Spread Market. Fifth from bottom Lincoln are top.

[url]https://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/football/domestic-league-2/group_a.4d46c2e5-47e5-4aa9-9726-fcda00fc12d6/league-2-points-2018-19[/url]

Where are the value bets in that?

Is it similar to 50 pence each way?

I should know a lot about betting because my grandfather ran an illegal betting "shop" from the back room of his house in Victor Street in the late 50's.

Sadly I last had a bet in 1961 on Nicholas Silver in the National when it romped home to win me 10 bob.

I bought a tenner a point at 58.5. I see us getting low 50s worst case so there seems far more upside that downside to me. The good thing about this market is you can dip in and out as the season progresses, so you don't need to wait for the end of the season, unlike a conventional fixed odds or exchange markets. It's more like a share or commodity price. Good topping up opportunities after the first couple of games.

Quoted from GrimRob

I bought a tenner a point at 58.5. I see us getting low 50s worst case so there seems far more upside that downside to me. The good thing about this market is you can dip in and out as the season progresses, so you don't need to wait for the end of the season, unlike a conventional fixed odds or exchange markets. It's more like a share or commodity price. Good topping up opportunities after the first couple of games.

Now see what you've done - all the market chatter about the huge trade you were going to place and you've created a 2% bubble in the GTFC price...

A few years ago during the Hearn glory years, thevera and I would bet on him for goal minutes.
Goal minutes is a combination of the total number of goal minutes during a game.

One home game, Hearn scored 4 but more importantly, 3 of them were late goals. We bought at something around 35 but he scored in probably the 20th, 65th, 70th and 75th minutes, a total of 230 minutes, minus our 35 that we bought at, so we were in credit to the tune of 195 minutes.

I can't remember our stake, probably 50p per minute, so a win just under £100.

Those were the days.  :-/

Racing Post has us finishing 19th..."young squad" should "improve" and "keep out of danger". clearly they think by not much though.  

I think most neutrals expect us to struggle.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Racing Post has us finishing 19th..."young squad" should "improve" and "keep out of danger". clearly they think by not much though.  

Yes we have signed some younger quicker players,

BUT

We have experience too with Collins 37, Dixon 31, Welsh 34, Woolford 31 Macca 28, Davis 27

Quoted from GrimRob

I bought a tenner a point at 58.5. I see us getting low 50s worst case so there seems far more upside that downside to me. The good thing about this market is you can dip in and out as the season progresses, so you don't need to wait for the end of the season, unlike a conventional fixed odds or exchange markets. It's more like a share or commodity price. Good topping up opportunities after the first couple of games.

Not quite true, you can actually cash out with most firms now throughout the season. I've done it on many an occasion, and a number of Leicester fans made a tidy profit for no risk when they won the Prem.

Quoted from Grimbiggs

Not quite true, you can actually cash out with most firms now throughout the season. I've done it on many an occasion, and a number of Leicester fans made a tidy profit for no risk when they won the Prem.

Yes, I am aware you can do it, but generally at very mean prices, so I regard it as a gimmick more than a built-in part of the market. Personally, I never press a cash out button, I prefer to lay the bet myself on the exchanges, at prices I have control over. When I backed Leicester to win the league I actually would have won a grand more had they failed to do so, largely because Betfred paid out a month early, which I hadn't anticipated! I missed out on Shrewsbury going up last year, but I still laid enough to make a three-figure sum, albeit less only 10% of what I would have won. This year all my money is on Town to get promoted, with a much smaller pot on winning the league. They are in a very similar position to Leicester and Shrewsbury in that they avoided relegation but finished very strongly.

I’m staggered by the confidence in Town this season.

As a disclaimer I fully admit I’m not a great gambler! I had money on town winning the league last year ffs!

Last year we had an established ‘safe pair of hands’ in charge plus about £1 million from the sale of Bogle. This year we have no established striker and have lost our most creative player. The one midfielder who did look as if he could chip in with 10 goals is out for the season. I am really worried about where the goals are coming from. Hopefully we win some penalties again!

Narrowly missing relegation and finishing strongly doesn’t seem a good indicator of winning the league. I would certainly argue that Leicester are the exception rather than the rule if you look through the past winners of the premier league!

If we sign a top quality striker I could be persuaded but regretfully don’t see this squad challenging at the moment.

A season of mid table consolidation and a cup run would be a success in my eyes.

UTM.

Somebody is putting money on Town - now at 59 on Sporting. 1.5 point rise in the price this week is a fair sized move without a ball being kicked.

I think confidence is justified. There are 4 promotion places, and I think in the two years we have been in this division most of the bigger sides have been promoted. We've got the 7th biggest average gate (which is a proxy of sorts for resources and potential) of the remaining teams and I am sure we can improve upon last year's crowds. Quite a lot has changed behind the scenes in the last 12 months and I think we have a better/fitter squad and I would expect us to rise up a few notches just on personnel alone.