Based on the long drawn out twitter goodbyes, so far we know that the following have left or not had contracts renewed:

DJ
Karleigh Osborne  

Yes by those tweets they are gonners. Not bothered by that at all.

Quoted from bigdavemariner

Based on the long drawn out twitter goodbyes, so far we know that the following have left or not had contracts renewed:

DJ
Karleigh Osborne  

No surprises so far.  DJ seemed like an exciting signing but Hooper has done more on the left wing in last few games then he ever achieved.

DJ is going to have a baby

I think there was a decent L2 defender in Osborne but he and DJ pretty much summed up Towns season..a few moments of promise, lots of frustrating moments followed by lots of nothingness.
DJ was this seasons Kayden Jackson, good start, falls away, leaves for another club where he makes a good impact.

Jaiyesimi has a lot of ability but needs to apply it at the right time and come up with some end result. Too often, he went on good runs without picking out a final pass or getting a shot away on target. I know Norwich picked him up front non-league but wonder if he might have been better staying there for another year or two. Potential for the future and he always worked hard so I'll wish him well.

Osborne needs to be playing regularly as he looked very rusty in most of his appearances this season. I'd personally expect to see him playing in the division below next season where he could probably do a good job.

Worst thing Norwich did was give DJ a juicy, three year contract after a bright start with us. He went completely off the boil after that.

Releasing K Ozzy means Jolley will be looking for a new centre back then

Quoted from Maringer

Jaiyasimi & Dembelli have a lot of ability but needs to apply it at the right time and come up with some end result. Too often, he went on good runs without picking out a final pass or getting a shot away on target.  

Just nick that off you mate with a bit of an edit.

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Understand #gtfc and @1Jamesmckeown are close to sorting a new deal- which is great news for all concerned.

Still not sure why DJ didn't get more of a chance in the first team.  If we were expecting the finished product then we probably need to revisit our expectations in the loan market.

Sometimes things came off for him, sometimes they didn't.  Same for Dembele, who just got more chances.  For both it's about giving them time to learn from their mistakes and coaching any bad habits out of them.  

Not sure DJ ever went off the boil, he just went weeks without playing so was just looked a bit rusty.

Jayesimi best game for me was Exeter at home he was fantastic all game.

But like Dembele crossing was his let down.

Quoted from fiveallive

Jayesimi best game for me was Exeter at home he was fantastic all game.

But like Dembele crossing was his let down.

They both suffer from the Sterling Head In Turf Syndrome. Pep has spent months trying to cure Sterling and has still not done it 100%. Both these lads have the same problem, they do not look up to pick a pass until they already have the ball. DJ especially needs this coaching out or he will just get released early from Norwich.

Having said that, Dembele put in some good crosses at times but the strikers were crap at timing a run in the box.

Why no news since this morning? Training session before meetings resume later?

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Why no news since this morning? Training session before meetings resume later?

Are you forgetting the season finished last saturday?

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Why no news since this morning? Training session before meetings resume later?

is 3pm, the meeting probably started at 10am, and they have probably over 20 players to speak to, and they wont last 5 minutes...

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

is 3pm, the meeting probably started at 10am, and they have probably over 20 players to speak to, and they wont last 5 minutes...

No change there then  ;)

Following discussions with all players, the following players will receive contract offers to extend their time with the club:

James McKeown
Luke Summerfield
Martyn Woolford
Danny Collins
Andrew Fox
Akheem Rose

Options have been exercised on the following players:

Siriki Dembele
Max Wright
Harry Clifton
Reece Hall-Johnson

The following players have not been offered terms:

Ben Davies
Nathan Clarke
James Berrett
Tom Sawyer
Jack Keeble
Ben Killip
Scott Vernon
Karleigh Osborne
Gary McSheffrey
Sean McAllister
Zak Mills

Happy enough with that tbh

Zak Mills the only surprise to me.

The other missing bit is the players under contract and whether any of those (Kelly & Dixon) will be allowed to go.

Is Mitch Rose under contract?

I thought Mills might have been kept on as he is versatile but there is a rumour he is sorted elsewhere already. A bit surprised Woolford has been offered terms though (basing that over the season).

Mitch is here for another year. Bit gutted about Mills tbh, think he offers us a little versatility, but I trust MJ. Onto next season!!!

So with Mich Rose, JJ Hooper and Cardwell already contracted, it means that with the exception of Clarke, the team MJ has selected for the last three games are all staying.

Given how they ended the season I think that's a pretty good start.

If he now brings in several more decent players we will have a competitive squad.  So it's not as if we are starting from square one.

I wonder if MJ studies the fishy!!

Apart from maybe Mills (who someone mentioned was looking to leave anyway) and maybe Ben Davies having another year, he has got it pretty much as we have all been suggesting.

I suspect that Davies was one of the higher earners due to his previous clubs and experience so maybe that was also taken into consideration.

As with others, I would say the list is about right. Just wish all the best for all of those that are leaving. The bottom line in that after 30th june they are unemployed, never a nice position to be in. Hopefully they all get sorted out with new clubs and no one comes back to haunt us!!

UTFM

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Zak Mills the only surprise to me.

The other missing bit is the players under contract and whether any of those (Kelly & Dixon) will be allowed to go.

He’s not been good for a while has Mills. Offers nothing going forward. Right call IMO.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

The following players have not been offered terms:

Ben Davies
Nathan Clarke
James Berrett
Tom Sawyer
Jack Keeble
Ben Killip
Scott Vernon
Karleigh Osborne
Gary McSheffrey
Sean McAllister
Zak Mills

That lineup could almost have been  Slade's preferred starting XI  ::)

Retained list now published.  Together will players under contract, the squad currently looks like this:

McKeown

Fox
Collins
Hall-Johnson
Dixon

Summerfield
Woolford
Dembele
Wright
Clifton
Mitch Rose
Sam Kelly

Cardwell
Hooper
Akheem Rose

So 15 players in total.  It shows how bloated the squad had become that 18 players were released or returned to parent clubs.

From this 15, you can more or less make up an 'ok' team.  It means that MJ should be able to spend the summer focusing on finding 6-8 quality additions, rather than re-build a whole squad from scratch.

We will have some degree of continuity in the squad too.

I cant wait to see who he brings in. Some real quality I bet.

Mills will find another club, and I wish him all the best!
Happy with Collins staying in paticular as i can see him taking a coaching role aswell, making a partnership like hurst did with Doig who was originally a player of course

Hall-Johnson is good and still young

mills and killip being released and woolford retained were the ones that stood out for me.
Having said that i don't think mills is a good enough passer - he reminds me of bradley wood in that respect.
anyone know where he's going?
wonder what he's got planned for Woolford, as i really can't see a midfield of clifton, rose, woolford and summerfield being a  promtoion chasing midfield

What about Clements?

Macca has had a much improved offer to stave off Motherwell....... 8)

Doesnt mean those offered deals will stay.

Nothing certain until signed. Presume they will have been given to the end of May to accept or we look elsewhere?

Surprised people questioning Woolford. He's been absolutely fantastic under Jolley.

Seems a sensible list to me. Focus budget in the priority areas - new CB, new wingers and STRIKERS!!!

Everyone also assuming that those offered contracts will stay and be first choice. Wouldn't be surprised if Woolford, Collins and Summerfield have been offered reduced terms.

Just need to get Dixon and Kelly jibbed off now and that's us set! Great work from Jolley.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Just need to get Dixon and Kelly jibbed off now and that's us set! Great work from Jolley.

They’ve an offer of a lift from me.

Bit surprised about Woolford being retained as it means that four midfield places in the squad are already taken up..

No surprises for me elsewhere. He was always going to keep one right back and look to improve that position with someone better than Davies or Mills.

Offload Kelly and Dixon (need a better alternative than Dixon for Fox) and I think we've got a strongish lean base with decent scope to improve in all positions..

Well done MJ, gives me even more confidence in him..


Edit  Fully expect Vernam to be in a Town shirt next season..

Don't be surprised about anything, Jolley has a plan, and I trust his every move

Quoted from Alfie

Surprised people questioning Woolford. He's been absolutely fantastic under Jolley.

Seems a sensible list to me. Focus budget in the priority areas - new CB, new wingers and STRIKERS!!!

Everyone also assuming that those offered contracts will stay and be first choice. Wouldn't be surprised if Woolford, Collins and Summerfield have been offered reduced terms.

We will need a decent back up keeper......and that's assuming Mckeown signs a new contract.

I think MJ has struck a good balance to give him scope to bring in some real quality. Can't wait to see who he has got lined up to come in. This will be a very interesting summer.

I don’t know why they call it a ‘retained list’ surely they only become retained if they agree to the new deals. Shouldn’t it be called the released list?

Agree with MJ’s decisions though.

Quoted from Alfie

Surprised people questioning Woolford. He's been absolutely fantastic under Jolley.

Seems a sensible list to me. Focus budget in the priority areas - new CB, new wingers and STRIKERS!!!

Everyone also assuming that those offered contracts will stay and be first choice. Wouldn't be surprised if Woolford, Collins and Summerfield have been offered reduced terms.

do you really think he's been fantastic? thought he had an awful first half at fgr and wasn't much better at cov. don't want to be cruel but in the games he's played under jolley i've only thought of him as a slight improvement upon berrett (berrett a 4/10 man, woolford a 5.5/10 man , if that makes sense!)

Didn’t realise quite how many players we had until seeing this list. Really really poor recruitment last year and January.

The offered new deal/ already to be here already looks much younger!

Hopefully all that have had deals offered accept, certainly not a given.

Would like to see Vernam return next term. Looked a real handful in the games I saw him.

I'm sure we'd let Dixon go if someone else wanted him but no need to make any moves to get rid. Fox will be first choice and Dixon is an adequate back up if needed.

Kelly is a bit different as he's so far down the midfield pecking order I can't see him ever playing.

Assume Clements will go too and Kelly and Dixon will have contract ended by mutual consent or paid up.

Like others only ones disappointed about is Zac Mills going and Woolford offered new deal. Also sad to see Davies go but hes getting too old now.

Like the fact that Jolley is sticking with the youngsters Clifton, Wright, Akeem Rose and Dembele and we should have scope to bring in around 10 players maybe more if some dont agree contract renewal.

Gonna be a busy and exciting summer

Surprised by Mills as, expecting a smaller squad, he offers excellent versatility across the back.  He wasn't too shabby in midfield either.  As others have said though, I suspect he's sorted elsewhere so little point in offering him a deal.

Woolford's an interesting one.  Very good under Jolley in that central role but as forza points out that potentially leaves us with a midfield of Rose, Summerfield, Clifton and Woolford.  Also Woolford was a lot better in a 3-man midfield as it helped hide his lack of pace (he's not alone in that one either), I wonder if that's part of the plan for next season to go with lots energy and pace in the front three.  I suppose Fox and Hall-Johnson are energetic from full-back too it would make sense.

Have to agree with a lot of that list. Would’ve liked to see Mills retained though.

Few jibes about Dixon and Kelly. I think all the squad should start with a clean slate next season. It may be that these players will feature and find form.

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

I'm sure we'd let Dixon go if someone else wanted him but no need to make any moves to get rid. Fox will be first choice and Dixon is an adequate back up if needed.

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rumoured to be on £2.5k per week so definitely need to get rid if at all possible! still hopeful that we can be shot of him  if its true that his family have moved back to Scotland. Perhaps we could persuade motherwell.......... ;)

Quoted from forza ivano

rumoured to be on £2.5k per week so definitely need to get rid if at all possible! still hopeful that we can be shot of him  if its true that his family have moved back to Scotland. Perhaps we could persuade motherwell.......... ;)

That he's a goalie  8)

Quoted from forza ivano

rumoured to be on £2.5k per week so definitely need to get rid if at all possible! still hopeful that we can be shot of him  if its true that his family have moved back to Scotland. Perhaps we could persuade motherwell.......... ;)

Scandalous if true. Kudos to his agent.

Surprised and disappointed about Mills and sorry Killip is going, the lad hasn't had much of a chance but I thought he did quite well when called on.

Appreciate he would be a permanent bench warmer again if he'd been kept but then whoever is brought in as No2 keeper will be in the same position so may as well have kept Killip.

Liked the lad tho' as he was a youngster and showed promise. Surely we won't be relying on Warrington again FFS!

Jesus!  Considering we had him on trial and then couldn't agree terms, what was he asking for first time round??

Added to the rumoured £3k a week we were contributing towards Matt's wage, Slade proper screwed us over with his recruitment!

So we weren’t doing it on the cheap then, just spending loads of money on crap players.

Pleased with all of that. Would now like to see a large percentage of the remaining budget spent on a centre back and a striker.

Quoted from Mariner_09

So we weren’t doing it on the cheap then, just spending loads of money on crap players.

Seems to always be our way recently. Say we have a tight budget but blow it all on a huge squad. Must be plenty of room for a squad with good ability if we don’t have nearly twice the number of players we need.

Plus the young lads adding the cover/ extra numbers and pushing for first team places.

Just as a point to add, there's only Clifton and Wright who can be classed as home-grown - as per the requirement this season to have at least one in the 18-man squad or lose a place on the bench.

I thought the club usually announce if any of the youth team lads have got professional deals at the same time as the retained list, but there could be a couple more added to the squad if not.

No alarms and no surprises as the song goes. I think you need a nucleus of experienced players, like Woolford and Collins, if you are going to bring the age of the squad down. I expect us to be raiding some under 23's squads for signings/season long loans. Think we need at least 1 experienced striker, with some sort of track record behind him. We've seen the bother you can get in if you don't have a regular scorer.

Would like to see us try and get shot of Kelly and Dixon and then try and sign 8-9 new players which would leave us with a squad of 20-21 players. Same budget, just on much better players but 10 fewer of them.

Quoted from ginnywings

No alarms and no surprises as the song goes. I think you need a nucleus of experienced players, like Woolford and Collins, if you are going to bring the age of the squad down. I expect us to be raiding some under 23's squads for signings/season long loans. Think we need at least 1 experienced striker, with some sort of track record behind him. We've seen the bother you can get in if you don't have a regular scorer.

Definitely on the striker front.  We can't go into the season with just Cardwell, Hooper and Rose as our attacking options, Jolley may well see Hooper as a winger anyway.  I would imagine it'll be a relatively experienced striker coming in.

If anyone seriously believes we're paying Dixon 2.5k a week and 'contributing' 3k a week to Matt, they need to give their heads a wobble.

As said previously I believe Jolley will look to try and get Vernam back, he seemed to be really impressed with him before he got injured.

Secondly really pleased that Ahkeem Rose will get another shot at it (pardon the pun) next season. Again when asked to comment Jolley seemed to be impressed by what he'd seen in training from him.

Quoted from sam gy

If anyone seriously believes we're paying Dixon 2.5k a week and 'contributing' 3k a week to Matt, they need to give their heads a wobble.

Believe me, I hope it's wrong.  

Chris Clements out of contract, can see mega wage bucks FGR signing him permanent.

Have those been offered agreed or is it still waiting on the players decisions?

Quoted from Meza

Have those been offered agreed or is it still waiting on the players decisions?

Following discussions with all players, the following players will receive contract offers to extend their time with the club:

James McKeown
Luke Summerfield
Martyn Woolford
Danny Collins
Andrew Fox
Ahkeem Rose

Options have been exercised on the following players:

Siriki Dembele
Max Wright
Harry Clifton
Reece Hall-Johnson

i reckon we need

1 keeper
1 right back
3 central defenders

Mid looks full already but i think we need some  more quality

Need 2 strikers. one being a good support to link play.

we do have some reasonably young players that could improve dramatically in hall-johnson, clifton, wright , rose, cardwell, Akheem. even hooper to some extent.

I think next seasons surprise will be mitch rose though, think he has had a better season than summerfields first though and can kick on in the same vain as he did.

Bye Bye Berret, never want to put a player down but the most ineffectual player i have seen in some time.

Quoted from sam gy

If anyone seriously believes we're paying Dixon 2.5k a week and 'contributing' 3k a week to Matt, they need to give their heads a wobble.

Agree. There is some absolute rubbish posted on here. How would anybody know how much one of our players is on unless it was leaked by himself or a board member.

Slightly suprosed Mills wasn't offered a deal thoughtn he's been one of our better players these last 2 seasons and I thought Killip might of been offered a contract as Macca's understudy

Quoted from diehardmariner

Definitely on the striker front.  We can't go into the season with just Cardwell, Hooper and Rose as our attacking options, Jolley may well see Hooper as a winger anyway.  I would imagine it'll be a relatively experienced striker coming in.

A bit like Vernon you mean?  ;)

Looks to have assessed the players realistically for next year potential and what he can get from them.

Few surprises and with careful additions made should have a better season.

We await the resignings to happen then await the new surprises !!

Heres to Plan A being mostly achievable !!!

Quoted from diehardmariner

Believe me, I hope it's wrong.  

It honestly wouldn't surprise me, certainly in Dixon's case. If I recall we were basically desperate to sign a left-back and Dixon's 'pedigree' (i.e. former recent Championship level player & he'd played for Scotland a few times) along with him and his agent having a load of leverage of us could easily have led to Slade offering him far too much. I mean look at this link, his agent went to the press to shower Slade in praise after getting the deal signed. I doubt that would have happened if he hadn't done us over in negotiations - https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-deadline-day-agents-what-401978

Quoted from sam gy

If anyone seriously believes we're paying Dixon 2.5k a week and 'contributing' 3k a week to Matt, they need to give their heads a wobble.

as diehard said i really hope i'm wrong.

ps experienced forward - simeon jackson ?

i reckon we need

1 keeper
1 right back
3 central defenders

Mid looks full already but i think we need some  more quality

Need 2 strikers. one being a good support to link play.

we do have some reasonably young players that could improve dramatically in hall-johnson, clifton, wright , rose, cardwell, Akheem. even hooper to some extent.

I think next seasons surprise will be mitch rose though, think he has had a better season than summerfields first though and can kick on in the same vain as he did.

Bye Bye Berret, never want to put a player down but the most ineffectual player i have seen in some time.
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I'd be happy with a wicket keeper / batsman and a finger spinner who could produce a fizzing Doozra. A decent scrum half and a hooker, and we'd certainly baffle the opposition manager and his pre match tactics.

Quoted from Meza

Have those been offered agreed or is it still waiting on the players decisions?

They will have been made offers. It is up to the players to decide whether to sign. One or two may not if they get better offers elsewhere. Not necessary money but location might play a part.

Quoted from forza ivano

as diehard said i really hope i'm wrong.

ps experienced forward - simeon jackson ?

No to Jackson for me. Into his thirties, on the way down, picking up injuries. Would like somebody on the way up from the Conference or someone who's scored goals in L2 last season and now out of contract.

Taking of contracts, what about Paul Wilkinson. Presume he's on a 6 month rolling one. Has he done enough to prove he's worth keeping. Dembele certainly needs quality coaching to getting him to the level his potential has shown. Interested to know what MJ thinks of PW and whether he wants someone else in for the number 2 job.

Overall, not much to grumble about
He must rate Akheem Rose!

Mills gone backwards IMO - but he may have got something elsewhere

Only 8-10 players needed now I would think (providing we start with 14... if my maths are correct??)

Goalie, 2 central defenders, right back, 2/3 midfielders, 2/3 strikers... about right??

Woolford looked great v Notts County - can't comment on away games cos didn't go, but clearly MJ found a role for him

If MJ gets squad together with a bit of cash to spare the club might pay off Dixon, Kelly??

Exciting summer ahead

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Following discussions with all players, the following players will receive contract offers to extend their time with the club:

James McKeown
Luke Summerfield
Martyn Woolford
Danny Collins
Andrew Fox
Ahkeem Rose

Options have been exercised on the following players:

Siriki Dembele
Max Wright
Harry Clifton
Reece Hall-Johnson

Thanks Nelly.....i cant read. Lol

Quoted from Jackie Lewis

Taking of contracts, what about Paul Wilkinson. Presume he's on a 6 month rolling one. Has he done enough to prove he's worth keeping. Dembele certainly needs quality coaching to getting him to the level his potential has shown. Interested to know what MJ thinks of PW and whether he wants someone else in for the number 2 job.

Neither Wilkinson nor Slade were on a 6 months rolling contract no matter what the powers above wanted us to believe

I think in an ideal world i would have reversed the decisions on Mills and Woolford but otherwise ok....we are stuck with some that i wouldnt particularly want to keep but hey ho....if you look at the position now there is potentially 15 players there already...that would include Wright A Rose and Clifton ...so 12 senior players...the 8 maybe 9 players coming in will need to be of some decent quality to pep it up.

Quoted from moosey_club

I think in an ideal world i would have reversed the decisions on Mills and Woolford but otherwise ok....we are stuck with some that i wouldnt particularly want to keep but hey ho....if you look at the position now there is potentially 15 players there already...that would include Wright A Rose and Clifton ...so 12 senior players...the 8 maybe 9 players coming in will need to be of some decent quality to pep it up.

I’d consider Clifton to be a fully fledged senior player now, personally, I think he’s earned the right.

Who is going to sign first then?

Macca? summers?

I presume we won't be waiting long?

Quoted from devs

Overall, not much to grumble about
He must rate Akheem Rose!

Mills gone backwards IMO - but he may have got something elsewhere

Only 8-10 players needed now I would think (providing we start with 14... if my maths are correct??)

Goalie, 2 central defenders, right back, 2/3 midfielders, 2/3 strikers... about right??

Woolford looked great v Notts County - can't comment on away games cos didn't go, but clearly MJ found a role for him

If MJ gets squad together with a bit of cash to spare the club might pay off Dixon, Kelly??

Exciting summer ahead

To pay their contracts off I don't think you would see much change from £150,000 . That would come off the playing budget, which is money that could be better spent on one quality player. Dixon would make a passable back-up to Fox and who knows, maybe Jolley can work on Kelly and find a position that suits him, much like he has with Woolford.

Pretty pleased with that and think Mills is one of those players who divide opinion but his major weakness is going forward where his distribution and crosses leave a lot to be desired. However, IMO is very good defensively but do like the look and potential of Hall-Johnson.

In respect of the midfield that 4 has done reasonably well in those last few games but feel at least two of them will be on the bench but that’s fine as all can do a reasonable job.

Bit surprised at Killip release given he performed ok when required and very young for a keeper but maybe MJ has a better option on the way.

Big change will be our strike force and hopefully next season we will have one, think league 2 requires pace, muscle, height all the things Matt has but his sum of the parts does not add up to a striker. Add in a Doidge/ Dennis type finisher and we are on our way😄😄

As well as Woolford has played recently he is still a liability when out of possesion and regularly lets other midfielders get behind him after they lay the ball off and go for the return, Happens regularly at throw ins in our half. Surprised Mills is going but if he has already said he has something lined up why bother offering anything.

Quoted from rancido

To pay their contracts off I don't think you would see much change from £150,000 . That would come off the playing budget, which is money that could be better spent on one quality player. Dixon would make a passable back-up to Fox and who knows, maybe Jolley can work on Kelly and find a position that suits him, much like he has with Woolford.

Surely that money is already in the playing budget as they have one year left and so we are budgeting them to be here taking a wage anyway. If we could agree a mutual termination at 50% the initial outlay would be £75k but we would save £75k too.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

Slightly suprosed Mills wasn't offered a deal thoughtn he's been one of our better players these last 2 seasons and I thought Killip might of been offered a contract as Macca's understudy

I said that - and got red crosses for it! Can't see a better keeper than Killip coming in if he knows he's not going to play, seems silly to let him go and recruit another bench warmer.

Quoted from rancido

To pay their contracts off I don't think you would see much change from £150,000 . That would come off the playing budget, which is money that could be better spent on one quality player. Dixon would make a passable back-up to Fox and who knows, maybe Jolley can work on Kelly and find a position that suits him, much like he has with Woolford.

Of course the other alternative is that we manage to farm them out on a season's loan, much like Blackpool did with matt.still contracted but not wanted.

're wilkinson. Cloudy are you intimating that wilko is too expensive to pay off? He doesn't seem like hed fit with jolley.he just oozes negativity

Sad about Zak Mills, he was poor under Slade this season but so was the entire squad. Thought he deffo had a future here!

Quoted from Ipswin

I said that - and got red crosses for it! Can't see a better keeper than Killip coming in if he knows he's not going to play, seems silly to let him go and recruit another bench warmer.

Absolutely no source. But just a personal thought as to why they’ve let Killip go.

Killip goes without a replacement and that pays for Maccas improved contract.

As far as I am aware, as an emergency position we can get a keeper on loan at any time should Macca get injured. As long as the loanee is not significantly better !!

Quoted from forza ivano

Of course the other alternative is that we manage to farm them out on a season's loan, much like Blackpool did with matt.still contracted but not wanted.

're wilkinson. Cloudy are you intimating that wilko is too expensive to pay off? He doesn't seem like hed fit with jolley.he just oozes negativity

??? To what are you referring. Cannot recall saying anything about Wilkinson?

Quoted from Civvy at last

Absolutely no source. But just a personal thought.

Killip goes without a replacement and that pays for Maccas improved contract.

As far as I am aware, as an emergency position we can get a keeper on loan at any time should Macca get injured. As long as the loanee is not significantly better !!

Great suggestion- Macca pulls a hamstring taking a goal kick and Jolley and Wilko get on their mobiles quick as a flash... hold on ref we re just in for an emergency loan...

Re Woolford; we don’t know what terms we have offered or what he’s on already - he signed quite late so obviously didn’t have his pick of teams to push his fee up. Would be quite happy having him around as an experienced pro for the right money. Also been a different player under Jolley.

I think Jolley got this spot on - only possible contentious one is Mills.

Whilst I appreciate many may want a complete turn around in the squad, this isnt always the best thing. If all sign we have a good nucleus there to be added to with some quality additions.

MJ used the expression Evolution not revolution before and this is what we appear to be getting.

Would really like to see Keeble given the same opportunity as Harry keep hearing good things about this lad.

Quoted from Cloudy

??? To what are you referring. Cannot recall saying anything about Wilkinson?

Sorry cloudy .my mistake.
GOLFER ,see my question 're wilkinson.is is he too expensive to pay off?

Quoted from Pouton4ever

Great suggestion- Macca pulls a hamstring taking a goal kick and Jolley and Wilko get on their mobiles quick as a flash... hold on ref we re just in for an emergency loan...

Oh gosh Pouts. Why didn’t I think of that. Coz it’s not like he’s played several games in the past without a keeper on the bench is it ??? !!!

Short memory fella.  Mind you now that your mate/family has got lucky with MJ I’m sure they’ll be a proper plan ‘B’ in place. 😄

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Would really like to see Keeble given the same opportunity as Harry keep hearing good things about this lad.

Not much chance of that. He's been released.

Quoted from forza ivano

Sorry cloudy .my mistake.
GOLFER ,see my question 're wilkinson.is is he too expensive to pay off?

I think that's Golfer continuing to peddle his Slade 4 year 138K contract bollox!  ;) ;)

Quoted from Civvy at last

Oh gosh Pouts. Why didn’t I think of that. Coz it’s not like he’s played several games in the past without a keeper on the bench is it ??? !!!

Short memory fella.  Mind you now that your mate/family has got lucky with MJ I’m sure they’ll be a proper plan ‘B’ in place. 😄

Banter aside I have never even met John fenty - so can we just stick to calling me a male private or a helmet or something as honestly I find the whole fentyista thing a bit odd

Warrington on the bench.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Warrington on the bench.

Is he still registered to play? Is he any good?? I remember Hurst not using a keeper as Pearson was pretty handy between the sticks

Quoted from Chrisblor

It honestly wouldn't surprise me, certainly in Dixon's case. If I recall we were basically desperate to sign a left-back and Dixon's 'pedigree' (i.e. former recent Championship level player & he'd played for Scotland a few times) along with him and his agent having a load of leverage of us could easily have led to Slade offering him far too much. I mean look at this link, his agent went to the press to shower Slade in praise after getting the deal signed. I doubt that would have happened if he hadn't done us over in negotiations - https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-deadline-day-agents-what-401978

Its even worse when you think we had Fox on trial and let him go, only to sign Dixon who is probably on at least twice as much as Fox  :-/

Quoted from gytone

Its even worse when you think we had Fox on trial and let him go, only to sign Dixon who is probably on at least twice as much as Fox  :-/

The same fox?

Quoted from golfer

Neither Wilkinson nor Slade were on a 6 months rolling contract no matter what the powers above wanted us to believe

This is unequivocally fact

Maybe Killip hasn't been offered a deal because he wants to be a first choice somewhere.

Ollie Battersby in the youth team left a couple of years ago to play with Sheff Utd, only to rejoin Town last year.  I wonder if there are plans to promote him?  It is certainly an easy way of hitting the quota of homegrown players on the bench!

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Warrington on the bench.

Next to the bench in his wheelchair surely ;)

Quoted from Mariner_09

I think that's Golfer continuing to peddle his Slade 4 year 138K contract bollox!  ;) ;)

Not sure about the 4 years or the 138k, but my instinct is still screaming at me that both RS and PW were not on six month rolling contracts. My educated guess would be 2 and a bit years..Something still doesn't feel right about it all, foisting PW on MJ if he's only on a six month rolling and also clinging onto RS for dear life, but I guess I'm going to have to believe open and honest John even though he was tickled pink to get his men..

So are we saying that Slade is the only manager in recent times who has been given more than the standard 6 months rolling contract? Slade is a complete dobber and gets handed a better contract than Hurst and Jolley. Sounds about right.  :-/

Quoted from ginnywings

Not much chance of that. He's been released.

So he has ah well looks like quite a few new faces then?

Well we just don't know do we Ginny because Mr Fenty refused to answer the question posed by Pete. Which is suspicious because he's only too willing to say other managers have been on/are on 6 month rolling contracts.

I think like most there are no surprises, feel a bot for Mills as I reckon he had a good start under Hurst and went backwards under Bignot & Slade's stupidity, but he is not great at retaining possession.

Woolford I think has been a bit lucky but certainly looked better as he got fitter and moved into a more central role, after a full pre season I'm optimistic he can make a difference.

So a few questions remain,

- How many of the lads offered deals will sign?

- If any of them don't has MJ got a back up plan.

- How quickly can we pull a squad together? "last minute.com" has led to a lack of quality in the last 2 seasons.    

Zak Mills (crying)
He had a good passion going for us. Ah well..

https://twitter.com/ZacharyMills1/status/994247927043362816

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

So he has ah well looks like quite a few new faces then?

Whilst under Slade it just would have been new faeces  ;)

Good luck to Mills.  

A few posters say that he has gone backwards.  Ironic when he is good at getting forwards.  His crosses are are often poor though, which gives possession to the opposition.  Mills is then stranded out of position.  Any attack could then be targetted down his side and put us under threat.  I think best for both parties if he moves on to a new club.  

The other decisions on players also look good.  There appears to be good reasons behind each decision.

Quoted from jock dock tower

i reckon we need

1 keeper
1 right back
3 central defenders

Mid looks full already but i think we need some  more quality

Need 2 strikers. one being a good support to link play.

we do have some reasonably young players that could improve dramatically in hall-johnson, clifton, wright , rose, cardwell, Akheem. even hooper to some extent.

I think next seasons surprise will be mitch rose though, think he has had a better season than summerfields first though and can kick on in the same vain as he did.

Bye Bye Berret, never want to put a player down but the most ineffectual player i have seen in some time.

I'd be happy with a wicket keeper / batsman and a finger spinner who could produce a fizzing Doozra. A decent scrum half and a hooker, and we'd certainly baffle the opposition manager and his pre match tactics.

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I'd go for Derek Underwood up front - he would finish any team off. Boycott as the tidy sweeper at the back with real hardcase second row enforcer type alongside him - someone with a real mean stare that will "manage" the ref - Martin Johnson or Lawrie Dallaglio. We need an elegant playmaker in midfield - I'd go for Gower - leftie as well - always an advantage. Then we need a box to box, gobby, little twaty sort of player - always annoying the oppo and getting them booked / sent off - Oz Healey...

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Well we just don't know do we Ginny because Mr Fenty refused to answer the question posed by Pete. Which is suspicious because he's only too willing to say other managers have been on/are on 6 month rolling contracts.

I think it was said that Slade was on a rolling contract, but the length of contract was not specified. Though i could be imagining that.

Quoted from Alfie

Surprised people questioning Woolford. He's been absolutely fantastic under Jolley.

Seems a sensible list to me. Focus budget in the priority areas - new CB, new wingers and STRIKERS!!!

Everyone also assuming that those offered contracts will stay and be first choice. Wouldn't be surprised if Woolford, Collins and Summerfield have been offered reduced terms.

I wouldn't say he has been fantastic by any stretch of the imagination. He has been cack for most of the season, yes he had improved but was poor against FGR, can't tackle and often gets caught in possession.

I would love to be proved wrong but looks a barmy decision to me.

Quoted from ginnywings

I think it was said that Slade was on a rolling contract, but the length of contract was not specified. Though i could be imagining that.

Oh. Never understood why JF wouldn't give Pete a straight answer.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

No to Jackson for me. Into his thirties, on the way down, picking up injuries. Would like somebody on the way up from the Conference or someone who's scored goals in L2 last season and now out of contract.

If we could....but I think it unlikely any such player exists!

Teams retain goalscorers,, normally.

Wouldnt surprise me to see more leave.
Contract paid up on Kelly and Dixon on mutual as he must know Fox will be ahead of him for LB.
Also Clements will be released.

Quoted from Ipswin

I said that - and got red crosses for it! Can't see a better keeper than Killip coming in if he knows he's not going to play, seems silly to let him go and recruit another bench warmer.

Macca if he stays,  needs a good experienced keeper challenging him every week for his place rather than a rookie warming the bench for a just in case injury etc

Quoted from Garth

Macca if he stays,  needs a good experienced keeper challenging him every week for his place rather than a rookie warming the bench for a just in case injury etc

Previous managers seem to have held the beleif that paying 2 experienced keepers was a waste of a wage and with budget limited (as they always are) they think that money is better spent elsewhere. Time will tell if MJ has thoughts on a similar lines?

Quoted from Garth

Macca if he stays,  needs a good experienced keeper challenging him every week for his place rather than a rookie warming the bench for a just in case injury etc

Couldn't agree less, Macca as we know will throw his dummy out if he is dropped for the other keeper and anyway why would a 'good experienced keeper' come just to warm the bench which he almost certainly would be doing. We can't afford to have two 'first choice' keepers, Killip would have been ideal.

Quoted from 137

If we could....but I think it unlikely any such player exists!

Teams retain goalscorers,, normally.

Amond?

Quoted from arryarryarry

Amond?

We haven't behaved like a normal football club for a while now, imo.  

Some offered deals might prefer to be nearer home if they can get an offer elsewhere. Could be a factor.