Whispers that banning orders are being handed out to fans for going on the pitch after Mitch Rose's crucial penalty that sealed our first win in twenty one games. A bit of over-exuberance and massive outpouring of relief, no threatening behaviour, no-one got hurt and all in good humour.

If true and someone has decided to hand them out, they must have a heart of stone after what those fans have been through this season..

No banning orders for the Vale "fans" that went on the pitch.

Double standards, ban our own fans, every other teams fans get away with it.

Who hands out the banning orders ?

So the same people that brought you OpenGategate are now acting in this vindictive way?

Have the police got nothing better to do.!

Isn't it the club that hand out banning orders? Not the polis.

Wasn't the SLO on the pitch, or is that just hearsay?

Think its a vale threat about going on thr pitch tomorrow IF we score ;)

Quoted from Bigdog

Whispers that banning orders are being handed out to fans for going on the pitch after Mitch Rose's crucial penalty that sealed our first win in twenty one games. A bit of over-exuberance and massive outpouring of relief, no threatening behaviour, no-one got hurt and all in good humour.

If true and someone has decided to hand them out, they must have a heart of stone after what those fans have been through this season..

Don't think the club have much choice - under the fa laws/rules/regs the crowd should not be on the pitch and the club must be seen to be doing everything they can to prevent it. If not- they can be fined or in worst cases receive a points deduction.

If you look at it like that then those who did go on the pitch, it was only a minority remember- everyone else managed to stay in the stand- that minority exposed us all to a risk.

I wonder had there been a fine or FA action if they you would view them as Spartacus or Satan?

It's rule e20 (b) and the if the fa ask the club has to show it has done everything in its power to prevent encroachment on the pitch. Banning orders are the usual way to deal with this.

Quoted from Pouton4ever

It's rule e20 (b) and the if the fa ask the club has to show it has done everything in its power to prevent encroachment on the pitch. Banning orders are the usual way to deal with this.

I get the point about the risk of FA penalties. Those signs threatening fines of up to £1000 are pretty useless with no rozzers in the ground to arrest and charge anyone.

And what action has GTFC taken with respect to those Port Vale fans who caused trouble the other week? What has it done to protect the safety of its own regular paying customers? Apart from closing the bar after half time that is.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I get the point about the risk of FA penalties. Those signs threatening fines of up to £1000 are pretty useless with no rozzers in the ground to arrest and charge anyone.

And what action has GTFC taken with respect to those Port Vale fans who caused trouble the other week? What has it done to protect the safety of its own regular paying customers? Apart from closing the bar after half time that is.

Isnt that like saying because theres no police in shops, but notices that shoplifters will be prosecuted, then its ok to nick a few bottles of wine? Blundell Park is private property.

I dont know what the club are doing about the trouble with PV - I m not sure it spilled onto the pitch and therefore doesnt come under the same rule e20 so there may be a different way of dealing with that.

It did spill on to the pitch, in the corner. The ref had to delay the kick off while our stewards cleared them off.

Quoted from Pouton4ever

Isnt that like saying because theres no police in shops, but notices that shoplifters will be prosecuted, then its ok to nick a few bottles of wine? Blundell Park is private property.

I dont know what the club are doing about the trouble with PV - I m not sure it spilled onto the pitch and therefore doesnt come under the same rule e20 so there may be a different way of dealing with that.

No. The point is shoplifters do get prosecuted. I can't remember the last time I heard of anyone getting prosecuted and fined for running on the pitch. If they're that concerned about a crime being committed they have video evidence to give the Old Bill.

Assuming that the rumour is true.....The club would have more credibility if it was seen to be more actively pursuing the real trouble makers from PV. It might not come under rule e20, but it's all part of keeping a consistent line on wrongdoing. What the club seems to be saying is, we don't give a excrement if you're at risk of being beaten in the ground, but we do if there's a risk of an FA penalty.

I am not condoning running on the pitch for one minute. Mind you it didn't stop John after the games at Bournemouth and Wembley did it.

What I'm saying is it's all part of the same picture which says the club doesn't give a stuff about its own fans. It did nothing over Bragate. It did nothing over OpenGategate apart from punish the innocent. It won't pay for policing inside the ground. It only steps in and acts when there's the risk of the club being penalised. Looked at in purely cold hard business terms, it sends the wrong message to customers. 'We won't look after you, we won't spend a penny on you*, but we will kick you out if it looks like you might cost us.'

* and neither can the ladies after yesterday's incident.

Has anyone actually been banned or is it just rumour?

It's all true. Seen loads of letters people are uploading on social media sites. Lifetime bans for young passionate supporters who know the rules but couldnt contain their emotion and happiness. Lets face it weve all been there at some point. Imagine watching town like you do, not winning for over 4 months, then winning a must win game in the last minute. It's human nature to some and for that they can never go home or away again according to the letter.

If this is true it’s absolutely disgusting. Those fans were only celebrating a massive win in a relegation 6 pointer . As the club said before it was the biggest game in years . We all know who that letter should be sent to banning them from BP

Quoted from Pouton4ever

Don't think the club have much choice - under the fa laws/rules/regs the crowd should not be on the pitch and the club must be seen to be doing everything they can to prevent it. If not- they can be fined or in worst cases receive a points deduction.

If you look at it like that then those who did go on the pitch, it was only a minority remember- everyone else managed to stay in the stand- that minority exposed us all to a risk.

I wonder had there been a fine or FA action if they you would view them as Spartacus or Satan?

Ahh.. the old rules is rules argument. Must have missed all those mass banning orders being handed out when lower league teams knock out higher league teams in the cup or 15k Huddersfield fans getting banning orders when they got promoted last year and every other good natured mass pitch invasion when something amazing happened.

Only at GTFC.. but then again other clubs cherish their fans..

Even Channel 5 and Sky Sports highlighted the emotion and what the goal meant, not a shred of criticism there either..

I hate what our club is turning into..

From good source Nick Dales blaming Grimsby for the Vale incident, one guy got picked out and taken out the ground last saturday, unreal the guys been a town fan all his life. And if this is true about fans being banned for invading the pitch then we need to stand together and sort out this little hitter's problems. He's rejected me before from going in the main stand because its a family stand but yet wouldn't come face to face for a meet. Love a one on one with the sharp object

Bunch of prats. The rules and the penalties are well known. Dont come on here moaning.

Something needed to be done to show a certain element of the Town fans that going on to the pitch is not acceptable. I've seen at a few away games over the past few years, fans going onto the pitch after we score. Both goals against Braintree in the playoffs, Notts County away, when Bogle scored, plus others, which I can't recall the exact matches.

If the club didn't act and send out a message then there would be the same pitch invasions if we take the lead today as it would be seen as acceptable.  That would be 3 home games in a row where Town fans have gone on to the pitch and the FA could deduct points. (Port Vale, Chesterfield, Barnet)

However, lifetime bans are completely OTT, unless they are found to be repeat offenders. Maybe ban them for the next 2 games and threaten we longer bans if this happens again.

Quoted from OneLove

From good source Nick Dales blaming Grimsby for the Vale incident, one guy got picked out and taken out the ground last saturday, unreal the guys been a town fan all his life. And if this is true about fans being banned for invading the pitch then we need to stand together and sort out this little hitter's problems. He's rejected me before from going in the main stand because its a family stand but yet wouldn't come face to face for a meet. Love a one on one with the sharp object

Can you see why he wouldn't meet you? One sentence you want an explanation, the next you offer him out.

I understand there will be a fair number of Port Vale & Town fans who will have to go to court and get a banning order.

The people who went on the pitch folllowing last weeks winner appear to have been banned by the club rather than through a legal process. There was one guy, and only one, who started to gesture to Chesterfield players and at one stage looked very threatening towards them. The others were caught up in the emotion and were not a threat to anyone.

I am all for banning orders against those fighting v Port Vale and I know rules are rules but surely a more sensible approach could be made against those who showed an outpouring of delight and relief.

It is important that thugs are treated differently from excited fans and to those saying they shouldn't go on the pitch, I agree but then again I bet all have driven over 70mph on a motorway!

Port vale attacked the findus stand which is a home stand and some town fought back , from what I’ve been told it was hardly towns main risk it was just lads defending their home stand. If someone comes into your home uninvited in my eyes you have the right to fight back to remove them don’t you? Regarding the chesterfield goal celebration I’ve seen letters on fb banning people from the club (wacko) like I’ve said before ,the club from fenty downwards all need removing before we can truly move forward.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Can you see why he wouldn't meet you? One sentence you want an explanation, the next you offer him out.

Hahaha just realised, the bloke angers me tho sits in that box dishing out bans to anyone for anything.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Port vale attacked the findus stand which is a home stand and some town fought back , from what I’ve been told it was hardly towns main risk it was just lads defending their home stand. If someone comes into your home uninvited in my eyes you have the right to fight back to remove them don’t you? Regarding the chesterfield goal celebration I’ve seen letters on fb banning people from the club (wacko) like I’ve said before ,the club from fenty downwards all need removing before we can truly move forward.

Town fans can be clearly seen on the pitch prior to any trouble around the back. You can't claim a right to self-defence, when there is no imminent threat from a few of Port Van fans on the pitch, maybe you could justify it when they tried to get in the Lower Findus through the gate.  In my eyes, the fans who went on the pitch from the Findus, went for a scrap.

Fight starts at about 9:30

https://youtu.be/BMCsVdZaVI8?t=9m23s

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Port vale attacked the findus stand which is a home stand and some town fought back , from what I’ve been told it was hardly towns main risk it was just lads defending their home stand. If someone comes into your home uninvited in my eyes you have the right to fight back to remove them don’t you? Regarding the chesterfield goal celebration I’ve seen letters on fb banning people from the club (wacko) like I’ve said before ,the club from fenty downwards all need removing before we can truly move forward.

agree dapperz, if some ones being an actual div at a game and deserves a ban then yeh but if a load of young kids celebrate with there players on the pitch in joy no malice then let it be. Its the youth who we need to keep watching town as they are the future, start issuing club bans and thats it they'll venture elsewhere. Long gone are the days when the ponny gates would burst open and floods of fans would stream on, no enjoyment anymore.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Town fans can be clearly seen on the pitch prior to any trouble around the back. You can't claim a right to self-defence, when there is no imminent threat from a few of Port Van fans on the pitch, maybe you could justify it when they tried to get in the Lower Findus through the gate.  In my eyes, the fans who went on the pitch from the Findus, went for a scrap.

Fight starts at about 9:30

https://youtu.be/BMCsVdZaVI8?t=9m23s

Now then nick dale

What’s so enjoyable about going on the pitch anyway? It’s just a bit of grass ultimately.

While it’s right that offenders should be dealt with.

It’s rather hypocritical that the official SLO account tweeted a picture of the fans on the pitch with words to the effect of “you can see what it means to everyone in this picture” and there’s some suggestion that the SLO went on the pitch himself.

So on the one hand you have a representative of the club seemingly supporting this behaviour and on the other a different club official condoning it.

It’s this for me which is the main issue. There should be consistency of message. Either those on the pitch were merely overcome with excitement and emotion and wasn’t a problem or they’re trouble makers who must be banned. You can’t have them both ways.

For me, they’re somewhere in the middle. Yes, it was very exciting but they should have and could have celebrated in the stands. A short ban or a warning would have sufficed (in my opinion).

I've seen a couple of the letters sent out from pictures posted on Facebook and it surprises me that there is no timescale to these bans. Are they lifetime bans? If so that's ridiculous.

As has been said, surely a ban until the end of the season and a warning as to future conduct would suffice.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Town fans can be clearly seen on the pitch prior to any trouble around the back. You can't claim a right to self-defence, when there is no imminent threat from a few of Port Van fans on the pitch, maybe you could justify it when they tried to get in the Lower Findus through the gate.  In my eyes, the fans who went on the pitch from the Findus, went for a scrap.

Fight starts at about 9:30

https://youtu.be/BMCsVdZaVI8?t=9m23s

Port vale came for a tear up plain and simple if you think any different you are in cuckoo land , all morning they had tried to kick off in meggies and the vid shows our lads playing up I agree but it doesn’t show vale trying to get round the back of the stand before this.

Sorry if any of you reading this are now banned for entering the pitch but what is the point? You know the risk and rules so don't do it... I've been to many games at BP before I moved away, some goals (kalala v spurs) where goals I went crazy for and will never forget... I didn't need to enter the pitch.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

No. The point is shoplifters do get prosecuted. I can't remember the last time I heard of anyone getting prosecuted and fined for running on the pitch. If they're that concerned about a crime being committed they have video evidence to give the Old Bill.

Assuming that the rumour is true.....The club would have more credibility if it was seen to be more actively pursuing the real trouble makers from PV. It might not come under rule e20, but it's all part of keeping a consistent line on wrongdoing. What the club seems to be saying is, we don't give a excrement if you're at risk of being beaten in the ground, but we do if there's a risk of an FA penalty.

I am not condoning running on the pitch for one minute. Mind you it didn't stop John after the games at Bournemouth and Wembley did it.

What I'm saying is it's all part of the same picture which says the club doesn't give a stuff about its own fans. It did nothing over Bragate. It did nothing over OpenGategate apart from punish the innocent. It won't pay for policing inside the ground. It only steps in and acts when there's the risk of the club being penalised. Looked at in purely cold hard business terms, it sends the wrong message to customers. 'We won't look after you, we won't spend a penny on you*, but we will kick you out if it looks like you might cost us.'

* and neither can the ladies after yesterday's incident.

Stop whining you breaks the law you pays the price, just because other incidents have not seemed to be punished to the same degree matters not a jot, I and thousands of others stayed in the stands while the end result of these "look at me wanabees" could be loss of points and relegation

I don't suppose a life long ban from watching their team was in the minds of most when the goal went in. It was just a release of pure emotion, you know, like humans tend to do. Fans are seen as customers in the modern game, expected to pay their money, sit down and shut up. Not condoning running on the pitch, but the circumstances of the invasion have to be taken into consideration, surely?

Quoted from ginnywings

I don't suppose a life long ban from watching their team was in the minds of most when the goal went in. It was just a release of pure emotion, you know, like humans tend to do. Fans are seen as customers in the modern game, expected to pay their money, sit down and shut up. Not condoning running on the pitch, but the circumstances of the invasion have to be taken into consideration, surely?

They were singing "we're on the pitch when Grimsby score" only 5 minutes earlier.

So.. Braintree away two years ago. At least two thirds of our support on the pitch that day at various times including at the end of the game.. lifetime bans for every one of them too?

Get off your high horses and stop seeing everything as black and white. There are areas of grey when it comes to making a correct balanced decision. As Ginny says.. No condoning running on the pitch but surely extremely emotional mitigating circumstances should be taken into account. A warning would have sufficed.

A question for all those holier than thou rules are rules people, retrospective lifetime bans for everyone on the pitch at Braintree then? Or was that the right kind of pitch invasion (still against those rules) with the right profile of supporter involved?

Quoted from Bigdog

So.. Braintree away two years ago. At least two thirds of our support on the pitch that day at various times including at the end of the game.. lifetime bans for every one of them too?

Get off your high horses and stop seeing everything as black and white. There are areas of grey when it comes to making to the correct decision. As Ginny says.. No condoning running on the pitch but surely extremely emotional mitigating circumstances should be taken into account.

A question for all those holier than thou rules are rules people, retrospective lifetime bans for everyone on the pitch at Braintree then?

You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make.  I have agreed that lifetime bans are excessive, but there should be consequences for their actions. Running on the pitch is not acceptable. Which is why I suggested 2 match bans.

The previous examples I used, I clearly stated "Both goals against Braintree". Was it appropriate to run on the pitch after the goals? No.

Yes, you are condoning running on the pitch.

It's ridiculous. Another example of the vilification of football fans. After terrible crowd behaviour in Cardiff last year after a Wales egg chucking game, a senior police officer said it was time banning orders were introduced into rugby. You see, other sports don't get the same censure as football and the incident was quickly overlooked as "drunken exuberance". How can it be right that a law which was initially introduced during the miners strike, can be used to set such Draconian rules on football fans? Lifetime bans, not being allowed to travel anywhere with anyone on a match day, even if it is non football related. Confiscation of passports and other civil liberties abused, and people are saying it's "the law". Well as someone more famous than me said "the law is a behind".

Quoted from Bigdog

So.. Braintree away two years ago. At least two thirds of our support on the pitch that day at various times including at the end of the game.. lifetime bans for every one of them too?

Get off your high horses and stop seeing everything as black and white. There are areas of grey when it comes to making a correct balanced decision. As Ginny says.. No condoning running on the pitch but surely extremely emotional mitigating circumstances should be taken into account. A warning would have sufficed.

A question for all those holier than thou rules are rules people, retrospective lifetime bans for everyone on the pitch at Braintree then? Or was that the right kind of pitch invasion (still against those rules) with the right profile of supporter involved?

But surely that would be up to Braintree to implement any action on the offenders. GTFC can only apply this FA law at BP.

Quoted from rancido

But surely that would be up to Braintree to implement any action on the offenders. GTFC can only apply this FA law at BP.

It's in criminal law, so one has to ask why some clubs fans get bans and some don't. Is a GTFC fan running on the pitch more of an offence than a Harrogate Town fan running on the pitch? I suspect there are more banning orders at some clubs than others because some clubs pursue it more vigourously, GTFC seemingly being one of those clubs?

Quoted from Bigdog

Answer me this then.

It's against the rules to go on after the game too. Ban everyone who went on after the game at Braintree? Yes or no?

Yes, it is against the rules, and just like virtually every last home game of the season when there's an invasion it is against the rules. Should they be banned? Not for me to decide, but the club seems to think not.  

Going on the pitch after a goal is not acceptable, and a deterrent was needed, but a lifetime ban is not appropriate.

A certain non chairman has been on the pitch many times including Wembley,

He also broke a young fans flag he should be banned,


Come to think of it there is a few players that should be banned from entering the pitch in the future.

He just can not help himself can he?  even when he goes silent on us he comes out with this.

Forget all the arguing about blame or whatever you are NOT allowed on the pitch . Every ground must have these notices in place . End of

Quoted from grimsby pete

A certain non chairman has been on the pitch many times including Wembley,

He also broke a young fans flag he should be banned,


Come to think of it there is a few players that should be banned from entering the pitch in the future.

He just can not help himself can he?  even when he goes silent on us he comes out with this.

Yes, but he is an upstanding citizen and pillar of the community- even wears a suit and tie to games, so the law doesn't apply to him.

Quoted from ginnywings

It's in criminal law, so one has to ask why some clubs fans get bans and some don't. Is a GTFC fan running on the pitch more of an offence than a Harrogate Town fan running on the pitch? I suspect there are more banning orders at some clubs than others because some clubs pursue it more vigourously, GTFC seemingly being one of those clubs?

Ginny, not one poster has condoned running on the pitch but instead have questioned the club's draconian actions. On top of that, there seems to be double standards when applying the rules. It's just part of the club's DNA to come down really hard on its own supporters for every little thing yet set lax standards for themselves. Bragate, vile, bullies, SLO tweeting the c word, Port Vale gate etc etc etc

I love my team in black and white stripes but starting to really hate my club, turning into quite the horrid unlovable set up..

We're developing into a naff parody of a football club that's becoming less and less appealing as the years go by..

Quoted from Bigdog

So.. Braintree away two years ago. At least two thirds of our support on the pitch that day at various times including at the end of the game.. lifetime bans for every one of them too?

Get off your high horses and stop seeing everything as black and white. There are areas of grey when it comes to making a correct balanced decision. As Ginny says.. No condoning running on the pitch but surely extremely emotional mitigating circumstances should be taken into account. A warning would have sufficed.

A question for all those holier than thou rules are rules people, retrospective lifetime bans for everyone on the pitch at Braintree then? Or was that the right kind of pitch invasion (still against those rules) with the right profile of supporter involved?

It was nowhere near two thirds on the pitch at any point at Braintree.

Am I missing something here but surely the answer is Stay off the pitch and don't risk getting banned?
Simply stick to the terms of agreement  when buying a ticket.

Old fashioned I know  but there you go

Remember Karen Stevens? Racially abused players and got a 3 year ban only. Every single week i hear illegal racist chants and comments at games. Do they get a life time ban? Do they even get removed from the stands? Standing in seated areas is far more dangerous than running on the pitch, but is tolerated every week. Last week, when the penalty was awarded, loads of fans rushed to the front of the Upper, clearly standing in an area which is marked "no standing" as it is a clearway for fans. Are all those people to receive bans? Were you one of those people blocking my view? People are allowed to smoke in the ground at half time, despite a smoking ban in public places. Infringements and infractions occur every week at every game. Let's just cherry pick the ones that might get us a slapped wrist and a fine.

Massive overreaction.
First the bars now this.
Team Fenty must really hate the fans.
male masturbators

Not sure about this outrage. There’s big signs saying don’t do it and what the punishment is if you do.

Quoted from barrattstandman

Forget all the arguing about blame or whatever you are NOT allowed on the pitch . Every ground must have these notices in place . End of

I'm not condoning running on the pitch, but John Fenty went on the pitch after we stayed up at Bournemouth to celebrate with the fans, was he ever banned?

Quoted from grimsby pete

A certain non chairman has been on the pitch many times including Wembley,

He also broke a young fans flag he should be banned,


Come to think of it there is a few players that should be banned from entering the pitch in the future.

He just can not help himself can he?  even when he goes silent on us he comes out with this.

It's that non-chairman again! The sooner we are shut of him the better.

Quoted from Bigdog

Whispers that banning orders are being handed out to fans for going on the pitch after Mitch Rose's crucial penalty that sealed our first win in twenty one games. A bit of over-exuberance and massive outpouring of relief, no threatening behaviour, no-one got hurt and all in good humour.

If true and someone has decided to hand them out, they must have a heart of stone after what those fans have been through this season..

I think this is the first time I have fundamentally disagreed with a post of yours!

It is essential the spectators keep off the pitch. Everybody knows it is an offence to enter the field of play, no matter how joyous or otherwise the crowd are.

You say there was no intimidating behaviour but their keeper was being goaded and had hand gestures given right in front of him - what happens if he retaliates, and other players get involved? What happens if a late penalty goes against us and the crowd run on the pitch when they are frustrated?

This is not the first time we have had fans run on the pitch, and despite it being an offence it makes us look tinpot, in my opinion. Stay behind the barriers and enjoy celebrations with the rest of us would be my suggestion to anyone thinking about it. Why risk a banning order?

just for clarity as i have not seen one of the letters...

who signed them off ?  Nick Dale, JF , The SLO ?

Also presuming the supporters on the pitch were just escorted back into the stands how on earth have they received the letters ?  

Quoted from moosey_club

just for clarity as i have not seen one of the letters...

who signed them off ?  Nick Dale, JF , The SLO ?

Also presuming the supporters on the pitch were just escorted back into the stands how on earth have they received the letters ?  

It's signed "By order of the club, in conjunction with Humberside Police"

I’d like to know how the club has found the names and adresses of all those suspected of running on the pitch ?
One can presume that the local police have shared this information with them which I would guess isn’t legal or at least isn’t standard practice for any other suspected criminals that are in our community.
I doubt the police would share information or hand out  names and addresses of Peado’s , terrorists or any other crime suspects but they have no issue with sharing the information of someone suspected of running onto a piece of grass.
As ever it goes to show the contempt  the police still hold football fans in and I recieved a letter is seriously consider taking legal action against them

It would have been nice if the club had announced that they we're going to take serious action with anyone who entered the pitch, this would gave placated the league powers that be, then they could just have not bothered doing owt, everyone would have been happy!

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Town fans can be clearly seen on the pitch prior to any trouble around the back. You can't claim a right to self-defence, when there is no imminent threat from a few of Port Van fans on the pitch, maybe you could justify it when they tried to get in the Lower Findus through the gate.  In my eyes, the fans who went on the pitch from the Findus, went for a scrap.

Fight starts at about 9:30

https://youtu.be/BMCsVdZaVI8?t=9m23s

Don't suppose there is any chance the idiot who made this video could get a ban is there? Shame

Quoted from Bigdog

Answer me this then.

It's against the rules to go on after the game too. Should the authorities ban everyone who went on after the game at Braintree? Yes or no?

Yes because Fenty was one of them! Ran on from the main stand like a daft kid

Was told today that it's the ones from the Port Vale game that are facing bans, not the Chesterfield game. Is that correct?

People literally climbed over a sign saying that pitch encroachment is a criminal offence and they could be prosecuted with up to a £1000 fine.

People know the risks, they take the chance... don't cry when it goes mammaries up.

Quoted from Jaws

People literally climbed over a sign saying that pitch encroachment is a criminal offence and they could be prosecuted with up to a £1000 fine.

People know the risks, they take the chance... don't cry when it goes mammaries up.

So why not fine them if that's what it says?

I really don't understand the logic in placing banning orders,of which the majority were young supporters.In my opinion they need educating on the matter of pitch invasion and the dangers it can cause.After all us fans have had to endure this season.Its the least the club could do.Bur will they show any compassion to the fans with these banning orders,I really don't think so.

So...how many actual banning orders have been issued. I've heard of one, which if the impeccable source is to be believed that was for trouble in the Main stand where children were frightened enough to have to leave at half time..

Quoted from Garth

Stop whining you breaks the law you pays the price, just because other incidents have not seemed to be punished to the same degree matters not a jot, I and thousands of others stayed in the stands while the end result of these "look at me wanabees" could be loss of points and relegation

For the umpteenth time, no one is condoning running on the pitch (well apart from the club SLO and Mr Fenty at Bournemouth). I think does matter a lot. If the law isn't applied to all then it leads to contempt of the law and undermines authority. Try it with your own children and see where you get.

And by the way don't you think violence is a much worse transgression than over-exhuberent celebration?

Quoted from OneLove

From good source Nick Dales blaming Grimsby for the Vale incident, one guy got picked out and taken out the ground last saturday, unreal the guys been a town fan all his life. And if this is true about fans being banned for invading the pitch then we need to stand together and sort out this little hitter's problems. He's rejected me before from going in the main stand because its a family stand but yet wouldn't come face to face for a meet. Love a one on one with the sharp object

You really don't help the case do you?

its pathetic really, I was speaking to a few yesterday who have bans for literally nothing, one lad received a letter saying he encroached the pitch when was in the main stand absolute made up none sense. They are taking a little matter into a big matter, it was a tiny pitch invasion wit woo no harm was done it was full of enjoyment but thats something we are subjected from doing at football now.

Reading your posts I can understand why some fans are treated so. You really don't help yourself

In yesterday's programme in the montage of pictures from the Chesterfield game it showed a picture of the fans mobbing the players on the pitch after the penalty so they can't be that bothered about it.

Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news.But letters have gone out banning supporters from the Chesterfield game,as previously stated earlier on in the post.Letters are dated 12 th April.Banning them from watching grimsby town home and away and all club events.I personally think it's too excessive.But rules are rules

Quoted from Bigdog

Whispers that banning orders are being handed out to fans for going on the pitch after Mitch Rose's crucial penalty that sealed our first win in twenty one games. A bit of over-exuberance and massive outpouring of relief, no threatening behaviour, no-one got hurt and all in good humour.

If true and someone has decided to hand them out, they must have a heart of stone after what those fans have been thro4ugh this season..

So from an original post that has a caveat of "If true" we have an eight page thread based on no evidence that has it as gospel that banning orders for Chesterfield pitch encroachment have been issued. Personally I find it highly unlikely that the SLO would've tweeted what he did and the club would have used some stills of events if there was any danger at all of it going pear-shaped. Looks very much like there is nothing to see here to me...

Quoted from Tell the truth

Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news.But letters have gone out banning supporters from the Chesterfield game,as previously stated earlier on in the post.Letters are dated 12 th April.Banning them from watching grimsby town home and away and all club events.I personally think it's too excessive.But rules are rules

Have you seen one or dare I ask had one?  Lisa Piggott on FB and now Lee Blease on twitter are saying the opposite..

Quoted from ginnywings

Remember Karen Stevens? Racially abused players and got a 3 year ban only. Every single week i hear illegal racist chants and comments at games. Do they get a life time ban? Do they even get removed from the stands? Standing in seated areas is far more dangerous than running on the pitch, but is tolerated every week. Last week, when the penalty was awarded, loads of fans rushed to the front of the Upper, clearly standing in an area which is marked "no standing" as it is a clearway for fans. Are all those people to receive bans? Were you one of those people blocking my view? People are allowed to smoke in the ground at half time, despite a smoking ban in public places. Infringements and infractions occur every week at every game. Let's just cherry pick the ones that might get us a slapped wrist and a fine.

What stand do you watch from??
I’m in the lower and not heard anything remotely like a racist comment/chant for donkeys years.
Fenty and his minions have made our club very toxic for us fans.
Bunch of Wankes.
They don’t give a excrement about the fans.
Bunch of male masturbators.
The sooner they all intercourse off the better.

Quoted from barralad

So from an original post that has a caveat of "If true" we have an eight page thread based on no evidence that has it as gospel that banning orders for Chesterfield pitch encroachment have been issued. Personally I find it highly unlikely that the SLO would've tweeted what he did and the club would have used some stills of events if there was any danger at all of it going pear-shaped. Looks very much like there is nothing to see here to me...

The evidence is on Grimsby praise and grumble and it clearly states the chesterfield game barralad

You get caught speeding for the first time they send you on an awareness course.

Surly this is the answer especially for the younger fans.

Quoted from TAGG

What stand do you watch from??
I’m in the lower and not heard anything remotely like a racist comment/chant for donkeys years.
Fenty and his minions have made our club very toxic for us fans.
Bunch of Wankes.
They don’t give a excrement about the fans.
Bunch of male masturbators.
The sooner they all intercourse off the better.

I sat in the Upper for the Chesterfield game. I heard one absolute knuckle dragger shout racist abuse (he lowered his voice for the racist part of his outburst aimed at Hooper) and plenty of homophobic abuse. I have over recent years heard sporadic racist abuse said by a small amount of individuals. And chants glorifying rape to boot.

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

You get caught speeding for the first time they send you on an awareness course.

Surly this is the answer especially for the younger fans.

I agree educate them

Quoted from Tell the truth

The evidence is on Grimsby praise and grumble and it clearly states the chesterfield game barralad

I'm aware of that but nowhere that I can see does it say it was for pitch encroachment. If whoever got that letter was involved in the stuff in the Main Stand which frightened children then I have little sympathy..

Quoted from MarinerWY

I sat in the Upper for the Chesterfield game. I heard one absolute knuckle dragger shout racist abuse (he lowered his voice for the racist part of his outburst aimed at Hooper) and plenty of homophobic abuse. I have over recent years heard sporadic racist abuse said by a small amount of individuals. And chants glorifying rape to boot.

That's a shame.
They need booting out the door and not let back.

Can someone not put one of these letters on here so we can all see for ourselves?

Quoted from grimsby pete

A certain non chairman has been on the pitch many times including Wembley,

He also broke a young fans flag he should be banned,


Come to think of it there is a few players that should be banned from entering the pitch in the future.

He just can not help himself can he?  even when he goes silent on us he comes out with this.

Had Fenty not have broken the flag and stopped the little sh1t flying it his father would have been assaulted and that`s a fact.Missiles were also being thrown towards the flag he stopped trouble and he had also previously gone to the lad and his parents and asked them to put the flag down.The father was a clever tw@t and started waving it a second time then passed it to his lad.

Quoted from TAGG

That's a shame.
They need booting out the door and not let back.

Shame they condone actions of racism as a 'convicted racist' sill attends GTFC matches...

Quoted from Simariner

Shame they condone actions of racism as a 'convicted racist' sill attends GTFC matches...

People make mistakes in terms of words and actions this especially seems to occur at football matches wouldn`t you agree? ;)

I jumped on the grass also and invite the club to ban me from blundell park and do me a favour .

Quoted from Simariner

Shame they condone actions of racism as a 'convicted racist' sill attends GTFC matches...

Why can't they leave Miss Stevens alone .She served her ban.
Anyway what about what happened to the totos racial abuser at Halifax a few seasons back.

I am just catching up on this, and only read the first 2 pages.

But these people who celebrated a massive goal in this clubs history are being banned, and not only that, but banned for LIFE?????

Yet the 'Fan' who racially abused a footballer was back in 3? years later???

If i remember rightly, Miss Stevens wasn't punished by the club at all, after a meeting between aggrieved parties. Think it was the courts who imposed the ban. I will leave you to decide which is the most heinous offence.

If the banning orders are related to the Port Vale incident or the trouble in the Main Stand during the Chesterfield game, then fair enough, no sympathy. If they are aimed at the Chesterfield ones who got a bit over-excited at the late winning penalty, then i think it's a different story.

Still not seen any evidence of an order being issued or what for. 9 pages of speculation

Quoted from realist

Still not seen any evidence of an order being issued or what for. 9 pages of speculation

There is one floating around grimsby praise and grumble on Facebook.

Mitch Rose ripped off his shirt which is also against the rules, why did he not receive a life ban from Blundell Park?

Quoted from GrimRob

Mitch Rose ripped off his shirt which is also against the rules, why did he not receive a life ban from Blundell Park?

Any chance they could give life bans to some other players for entering the field of play.

Link to Facebook photo, which is in a closed group.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10160158455070034&set=gm.988185684681553&type=3&theater&ifg=1

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Link to Facebook photo, which is in a closed group.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10160158455070034&set=gm.988185684681553&type=3&theater&ifg=1

This is the one I've seen. There is no mention of pitch encroachment so given that there was trouble in the Main Stand and people who work for the club have said that the banning orders are not to do with pitch encroachment is it not reasonable to assume they are related to that trouble?

Maybe it's like potentially unpopular government policies that get leaked to test the water. You could call this thread 'consultation'.  :)

No one who went on the pitch got banned. Close the thread. End of debate. Let's move on. UTM

Codalmighty article on the issue makes for some interesting reading. The only thing that has not been made clear yet, is whether these banning orders relate to the crowd entering the pitch after the penalty, or the fighting in the main stand. As i have said before, if it is for the latter, then fair enough, but if it is for the former, then it's quite despicable in my humble opinion. Wish someone could clear this up definitively.

http://www.codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=6701

Just be patient, our SLO will explain what's happening any minute now.

Quoted from Gaffer58

Just be patient, our SLO will explain what's happening any minute now.

Can I sell you some magic beans please?

What I find really disturbing is that the ban is permanent. How draconian is that? I don't condone the actions of the supporters at all, but please.. life? A lad gets into fisticuffs at a game say in his teens or early twenties and he's banned for life! I find that incredible. Paedophiles and rapists get more chances than that. No chance of the culprits going through a three or five year period of reflection and self-rehabilitation then? We all know that we mature and change (usually) for the better as we get older and learn from our mistakes. Imagine.. a young kid in the year 2052 asks his kind old grandad to take him to the Town match. "Sorry grandson, can't take you, had a fight against Port Vale because they were storming the home end in 2018 and the club banned me for life."

Quoted from Bigdog

What I find really disturbing is that the ban is permanent. How draconian is that? I don't condone the actions of the supporters at all, but please.. life? A lad gets into fisticuffs at a game say in his teens or early twenties and he's banned for life! I find that incredible. Paedophiles and rapists get more chances than that. No chance of the culprits going through a three or five year period of reflection and self-rehabilitation then? We all know that we mature and change (usually) for the better as we get older and learn from our mistakes. Imagine.. a young kid in the year 2052 asks his kind old grandad to take him to the Town match. "Sorry grandson, can't take you, had a fight against Port Vale because they were storming the home end in 2018 and the club banned me for life."

I assume the ban only applies at BP. When the new ground comes along there will be an amnesty  :)

Do you think anyone would even remember who is banned? It's not as though they have to report to a police station. If you pay in cash you are effectively anonymous. Until they install biometric turnstiles at BP a lifetime ban is unenforceable.,

Quoted from ginnywings

Codalmighty article on the issue makes for some interesting reading. The only thing that has not been made clear yet, is whether these banning orders relate to the crowd entering the pitch after the penalty, or the fighting in the main stand. As i have said before, if it is for the latter, then fair enough, but if it is for the former, then it's quite despicable in my humble opinion. Wish someone could clear this up definitively.

http://www.codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=6701

Reading that it sounds a load of balderdash to me.

Yes the club can ban anyone they like from BP but unless the bans are a result of a criminal conviction I don't see how they can ban them from away games.

Surely that letter's a clever spoof on Town's typical communications.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Surely that letter's a clever spoof on Town's typical communications.

I hope you're right in thinking that KM..

Why. If it was for fighting in a family area they deserve a lifetime ban.