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Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, April 10, 2018, 11:12am
If you are proactive positive things tend to happen. If you are reactive you are forever fighting fires.

Guess which category GTFC falls into? ;D

With a few games to go of a dismal season, trying to do something with the sound system, belatedly getting PR statements worded properly, trying  to get fans onside, bringing Mighty mariner back from exile  - just tiny examples of why we must have a fresh start once this season has finished. All these things should have been addressed pre season after years of failure.

Although a staunch critic of Fenty for many years, I don't really care who makes the necessary changes but changes simply have to happen and somebody somewhere has got to invest in the playing side, the stadium (or make a new one happen, which seems unlikely) long term PR, season ticket structures and incentives, the match day experience, the staff, the media exposure - virtually everything needs looking at in detail by somebody who knows what they are doing.

We need to get professionals in to run every aspect of the club and get us fired up again. As I said yesterday, if we survive and Fenty acts as if it is job done, he deserves no more support at all until we see big changes in outlook and desire to make his control of the club work.
Posted by: petethemariner, April 10, 2018, 11:27am; Reply: 1
A big THIS from me LCL!
Posted by: MuddyWaters, April 10, 2018, 11:29am; Reply: 2
If you are proactive positive things tend to happen. If you are reactive you are forever fighting fires.

Guess which category GTFC falls into? ;D

With a few games to go of a dismal season, trying to do something with the sound system, belatedly getting PR statements worded properly, trying  to get fans onside, bringing Mighty mariner back from exile  - just tiny examples of why we must have a fresh start once this season has finished. All these things should have been addressed pre season after years of failure.

Although a staunch critic of Fenty for many years, I don't really care who makes the necessary changes but changes simply have to happen and somebody somewhere has got to invest in the playing side, the stadium (or make a new one happen, which seems unlikely) long term PR, season ticket structures and incentives, the match day experience, the staff, the media exposure - virtually everything needs looking at in detail by somebody who knows what they are doing.

We need to get professionals in to run every aspect of the club and get us fired up again. As I said yesterday, if we survive and Fenty acts as if it is job done, he deserves no more support at all until we see big changes in outlook and desire to make his control of the club work.


Fair comment, but hasn't this always been the case? Cost-cutting is all well and good but not at the risk of devaluing the product which, when you look at our league position now in comparison with 2002, is exactly what's happened.

Let's just hope that we are still a League club by teatime on Saturday 5th May - if so, let's hope that some lessons are learned moving forward.
Posted by: ginnywings, April 10, 2018, 11:37am; Reply: 3
Quoted from MuddyWaters


Fair comment, but hasn't this always been the case? Cost-cutting is all well and good but not at the risk of devaluing the product which, when you look at our league position now in comparison with 2002, is exactly what's happened.

Let's just hope that we are still a League club by teatime on Saturday 5th May - if so, let's hope that some lessons are learned moving forward.


If only we'd had experience of a similar situation to draw on......

Here we are, almost ten years on and again we are having to get a result against Barnet to try and stay in the league.
Posted by: 75 (Guest), April 10, 2018, 11:43am; Reply: 4
Nail on the head there.

All we have ever done under John Fenty is firefight. No long term plan, no real medium term plan. Awful player contract renewal policy, we allow the contracts of players that excel to expire, then invariably lose them on Bosman's (see pretty much every player of the year for the last decade), awful player acquisition policy, we shop in the bargain bin in late July / August and beyond to save on wages, although the good ones have already found clubs. We don't have an footballing identity as we used to (pass and move, play the right way), no continuity in type of manager (Hurst to Slade's style were massively different), youths not given a chance. It's all wrong and it's wrong from the top.
Posted by: Bigdog, April 10, 2018, 12:06pm; Reply: 5
If you are proactive positive things tend to happen. If you are reactive you are forever fighting fires.

Guess which category GTFC falls into? ;D

With a few games to go of a dismal season, trying to do something with the sound system, belatedly getting PR statements worded properly, trying  to get fans onside, bringing Mighty mariner back from exile  - just tiny examples of why we must have a fresh start once this season has finished. All these things should have been addressed pre season after years of failure.

Although a staunch critic of Fenty for many years, I don't really care who makes the necessary changes but changes simply have to happen and somebody somewhere has got to invest in the playing side, the stadium (or make a new one happen, which seems unlikely) long term PR, season ticket structures and incentives, the match day experience, the staff, the media exposure - virtually everything needs looking at in detail by somebody who knows what they are doing.

We need to get professionals in to run every aspect of the club and get us fired up again. As I said yesterday, if we survive and Fenty acts as if it is job done, he deserves no more support at all until we see big changes in outlook and desire to make his control of the club work.


Everything in a nutshell LCL..

The powers that be have got to take an honest assessment of where we've ended up in the English League pyramid every season for the past fifteen years and address how to break that cycle for good. The board have appointed themselves as custodians of the club no one else. It can't all fall on the shoulders of Michael Jolley.

Not another season of more of the same and this is how we've always done it. The fans aren't buying into it. It's not the fans fault, it's the responsibility of the board to win the fans back and give them what they want, as it's the fans that pay the bills.

Not another single utterance of that foolhardy phrase, "football fortune". Success in football comes from being skilfully pro-active. "Football fortune" seems like a phrase to be used when all ideas have run dry..

Massive summer for GTFC off the pitch, or at least I hope it is..

Posted by: chelseacity, April 10, 2018, 12:08pm; Reply: 6
My personal opinion only, once John Fenty became a Councillor i thought to myself that he has given up mentally on the Grimsby Town role.
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