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Posted by: MacDaddy9214, April 2, 2018, 7:12pm
The results may not be going our way but I believe our performances are a damn sight better than what they were before Jolley got the job.

He has continued to tinker with his side making lots of changes in order to find the players prepared to fight and the right system to stay up.
It's clear to see that he was left a shambolic and completely unbalanced squad filled with players lacking the quality needed of them.

Now is the time for Jolley to select his best XI from Saturday through to the end of the season with little to no rotation.
In my opinion there's 8 players you can select pretty easily on the basis of the 5 games since the new manager.
Macca, Mills, RHJ, Collins, Fox, Summerfield, Clifton, McAllister.
Arguably Woolford in the games he's played has looked a lot better under Jolley than he did under the previous regime.

I believe our best team and therefore our best chance of staying up is.
                       Macca
RHJ    Mills. Collins.   Fox  
Summerfield McAllister Clifton
                      Woolford

And then it gets to the the strikers not one of them have shown the quality needed for the conference never mind the ability to fire us to safety. My conclusion from this is why not try something different why not play DJ and Dembele as strikers both offer pace and flair on the ball but neither are players who really track back. So why not have them up front running the channels and giving opposition defences something to actually defend against rather than the big target man approach that hasn't worked.
                  
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, April 2, 2018, 8:22pm; Reply: 1
From my limited viewing I agree with your 8. For strikers I would say Matt. He may have the finishing finesse of a pub footballer  but like my pub football manager used to say - I pick you because of your nuisance value lots of running and physicality. We then need someone to feed off the scraps - I don’t know who that is - DJ McSheffrey Wilks? And then add Dembele wide.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, April 2, 2018, 8:32pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from MacDaddy9214
The results may not be going our way but I believe our performances are a damn sight better than what they were before Jolley got the job.

He has continued to tinker with his side making lots of changes in order to find the players prepared to fight and the right system to stay up.
It's clear to see that he was left a shambolic and completely unbalanced squad filled with players lacking the quality needed of them.

Now is the time for Jolley to select his best XI from Saturday through to the end of the season with little to no rotation.
In my opinion there's 8 players you can select pretty easily on the basis of the 5 games since the new manager.
Macca, Mills, RHJ, Collins, Fox, Summerfield, Clifton, McAllister.
Arguably Woolford in the games he's played has looked a lot better under Jolley than he did under the previous regime.

I believe our best team and therefore our best chance of staying up is.
                       Macca
RHJ    Mills. Collins.   Fox  
Summerfield McAllister Clifton
                      Woolford

And then it gets to the the strikers not one of them have shown the quality needed for the conference never mind the ability to fire us to safety. My conclusion from this is why not try something different why not play DJ and Dembele as strikers both offer pace and flair on the ball but neither are players who really track back. So why not have them up front running the channels and giving opposition defences something to actually defend against rather than the big target man approach that hasn't worked.
                  


If we're only going to start with 9 men then we're fooked!
Posted by: MacDaddy9214, April 2, 2018, 8:42pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from MuddyWaters


If we're only going to start with 9 men then we're fooked!


That's why I went on to talk about DJ and Dembele playing up front....
Posted by: sydney, April 2, 2018, 8:51pm; Reply: 4
Agree
And Matt up front with one other player,  DJ? as Dembele been off the pace lately
Tell Matt to throw himself on the floor all the time like all the other cheating f@@@@@s do and we will get more set piece opportunities.
MJ needs to read this and understand this and needs to do twice (win) in the last few games what we haven’t achieved once in the last twenty
Come on Town!!
Posted by: HertsGTFC, April 2, 2018, 9:16pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from MacDaddy9214


That's why I went on to talk about DJ and Dembele playing up front....


Dembele played up front at a home game recently (can’t remember who against) and he was clueless.

MJ has pretty much seen everybody now in a couple of formations so I would expect some stability now, bit early to tell but I sense he could be a bit of a tinker man
Posted by: Limerick Mariner, April 2, 2018, 11:55pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from HertsGTFC


Dembele played up front at a home game recently (can’t remember who against) and he was clueless.

MJ has pretty much seen everybody now in a couple of formations so I would expect some stability now, bit early to tell but I sense he could be a bit of a tinker man


He has to play wide - as to close to the touchline as he can get, and he needs the ball on the deck to feet - basic stuff really - stretch the play to create space. He did rather well, backed by 2.6k travelling fans, against some team or other, it was so long ago...was thinking about Scunny next season and not Salford...

Posted by: ginnywings, April 3, 2018, 12:03am; Reply: 7
Managers rarely play settled sides nowadays. They play whichever 11 they think is best to beat  the opponent.
Posted by: diehardmariner, April 3, 2018, 2:55pm; Reply: 8
I would be quite happy to never see Matt in a Town shirt ever again.  

He should be physically dominating teams but gets bullied by guys half his side.  On the few occasions he has started to use his physical attributes he stops as soon as a decision goes against him.

The last decent front pairing I saw was DJ and Cardwell and that was in the Craig Disley benefit game!  It at least had movement and something no other strike pairing I've seen this season had, an understanding.  

If you play Matt or Vernon we go long despite the fact neither are any good at heading it.  So it goes over their head and they've the turning circle of a ship before chasing down loose balls.  Hooper looks like he could be decent picking up the scraps as he's got a slight bit of pace, some skill and a little bit of strength.  Unfortunately he, like Matt, seems terrified of using any attribute.  Both Matt and Hooper also appear to have received no coaching on how to play in a pairing.  They're either on the toes of their partner or 50 yards apart.  

Wilks is the one with the pace that could unlock teams but he doesn't read the game at all and spends most of his time running down blind alleys.  From wide he can be a threat, but down the middle I don't think he offers much.

The cut and thrust is that our striking options are more or less non existent.  I think we're better off just packing the front four with as much energy, pace and enthusiasm as we can - hoping something comes off.  On that basis it can only be Clifton, Wilks, DJ and Cardwell for me.  If one of them is injured, maybe someone from the stand fancies a game.
Posted by: arryarryarry, April 3, 2018, 3:57pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from diehardmariner
I would be quite happy to never see Matt in a Town shirt ever again.  

He should be physically dominating teams but gets bullied by guys half his side.  On the few occasions he has started to use his physical attributes he stops as soon as a decision goes against him.

The last decent front pairing I saw was DJ and Cardwell and that was in the Craig Disley benefit game!  It at least had movement and something no other strike pairing I've seen this season had, an understanding.  

If you play Matt or Vernon we go long despite the fact neither are any good at heading it.  So it goes over their head and they've the turning circle of a ship before chasing down loose balls.  Hooper looks like he could be decent picking up the scraps as he's got a slight bit of pace, some skill and a little bit of strength.  Unfortunately he, like Matt, seems terrified of using any attribute.  Both Matt and Hooper also appear to have received no coaching on how to play in a pairing.  They're either on the toes of their partner or 50 yards apart.  

Wilks is the one with the pace that could unlock teams but he doesn't read the game at all and spends most of his time running down blind alleys.  From wide he can be a threat, but down the middle I don't think he offers much.

The cut and thrust is that our striking options are more or less non existent.  I think we're better off just packing the front four with as much energy, pace and enthusiasm as we can - hoping something comes off.  On that basis it can only be Clifton, Wilks, DJ and Cardwell for me.  If one of them is injured, maybe someone from the stand fancies a game.


Can't disagree with any of that, I would much rather see Cardwell start then either Matt or Hooper.
Posted by: arryarryarry, April 3, 2018, 3:58pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from ginnywings
Managers rarely play settled sides nowadays. They play whichever 11 they think is best to beat  the opponent.


Swapping players hasn't done us much cop in the last 20 games.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, April 3, 2018, 4:02pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from arryarryarry


Swapping players hasn't done us much cop in the last 20 games.


I would argue that swopping the strikers for every game or so has not helped in our search for goals.
Posted by: GrimRob, April 3, 2018, 4:22pm; Reply: 12
I think we should play 1 striker away and 2 at home. FGR away we might need to win in which case we can decide at the time.
Posted by: ginnywings, April 3, 2018, 4:36pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from arryarryarry


Swapping players hasn't done us much cop in the last 20 games.


No it hasn't, but it's the way most managers work nowadays. The fact it hasn't worked for us is down to the personnel. Wycombe also made 4 changes on Saturday. It worked for them.
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