Quoted from 75

It was me who mentioned the 800 quid thing. Anyway he wouldn't come here, and he's a waster anyway. At his boyhood club he's been stealing a living for years. Always starts the season well then gets on the pies and hardly nets after October.

I would definitely prefer a 20/22 man squad next season, easier said than done to be fair as some players don't work out and replacements need adding. That said, our recruitment this season speaks for itself. We need to recruit earlier, we've paid the price for shopping in the bargain bucket when all the good players have been signed up. That's what John Fenty does for you, 90th of 92 and I'd say we are likely to finish 91st due to his policy. Fenty out.

Quoted from forza ivano

Players will have to live within 1 hour of by.does that mean dannY Collins won't be here next year?

Quoted from ginnywings

The only new approach that will work for many is a complete change of leadership and direction.

Quoted from 75

I'll accept no less. He's had 14 years, I've had enough and I want him out. I will not go next season if he is involved in any way as it's a waste of time.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I ask this just out of curiosity though - would you rather the club had Fenty who has money but spends it on the wrong things or someone else who has no money at all to spend on players?

I’m not saying I disagree at all about Fenty and his 14 years of crap but money matters especially to get decent players to come to the back of beyond. The words ‘rock’ and ‘hard place’ spring to mind.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I ask this just out of curiosity though - would you rather the club had Fenty who has money but spends it on the wrong things or someone else who has no money at all to spend on players?

I’m not saying I disagree at all about Fenty and his 14 years of crap but money matters especially to get decent players to come to the back of beyond. The words ‘rock’ and ‘hard place’ spring to mind.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I ask this just out of curiosity though - would you rather the club had Fenty who has money but spends it on the wrong things or someone else who has no money at all to spend on players?

I’m not saying I disagree at all about Fenty and his 14 years of crap but money matters especially to get decent players to come to the back of beyond. The words ‘rock’ and ‘hard place’ spring to mind.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I ask this just out of curiosity though - would you rather the club had Fenty who has money but spends it on the wrong things or someone else who has no money at all to spend on players?

I’m not saying I disagree at all about Fenty and his 14 years of crap but money matters especially to get decent players to come to the back of beyond. The words ‘rock’ and ‘hard place’ spring to mind.

Quoted from oldun

I think we can expect to see some younger fitter players with more pace. However I hope we can find a few experienced heads for the spine of the team, centre defence, centre mid and up top.

Quoted from ginnywings

The only new approach that will work for many is a complete change of leadership and direction.

Quoted from malkamalka

Thinking onto next season, and referring to something somebody said on a previous thread which was:

"that's what you get when you have 9 strikers on £800 a week instead of 3 on £2,000"

If we were to go down that route, who do people think we should be approaching?

I'll chuck a name in for starters:

Gabby Agbonlahor - who will be a FREE AGENT in the summer.

Comments/Suggestions

Quoted from chrissy

MJ  will go for young talented players not 30+ year olds,I agree with op that we should sign quality rather than quantity .

Quoted from denni266

fenty will not spend any where near the going rate for good players , so we end up with a team like we have now,, and that is not going to change while he is here,, and while there is no chance of a new ground to  finance his loans back nothing is going to change.. We had the players here that imo would have given us a chance to be the other end of the table, and he got rid of them to save a few quid , And he has the nerve to swan around the upper findus  smiling and shaking hands like he is some sort of important person that had done well at out of the club

Quoted from mariner91

How many times does this need to be stated. HE DOES NOT SPEND MONEY. He hasn't for years. Check the accounts, he has put no money into the club for donkey's years but has cost the club untold millions throughout his tenure.

There is absolutely no reason why a club that gets our gates (even this season's and they're down from last year) cannot be sustainable at this level. There are plenty of well run clubs that have no sugar daddies, get lower gates than we do and are out-performing us in virtually every way. It would need the right people in charge, with an actual plan to how we're going to move forward not just hoping for some "football fortune" and cutting costs at every opportunity. Not to mention that I reckon there'd be a significant increase in attendances in the short term if Fenty left. I know people who won't go whilst he's in charge and I'm sure just about everyone who posts on here does or at least know people who wont' go for much longer with him still pulling the strings.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Oh come off your high horses and tell us something we don't know. It's the easy way out to sit there and snipe and make wish lists every time somebody tries to look just a tiny bit further than the end of our collective noses.

Until there is an alternative on the table we are stuck with what we have and resentment is growing with every day. My concern would be something happening in a great rush that is superficially attractive, i.e. involves Fenty going, which we all would love to see, but which does not have long term viability especially on the park. If that happens we don't go the way of the Accringtons or even the Newports, but the way of the Yorks.

So is there another way? Is there a way that leaves Fenty in place as major shareholder but takes off him those pesky decisions on football club matters that seem to be totally beyond his abilities? Can something be worked out that stops him being the public face of the club? Is there a possibility we could stop talking about his benign loans and shareholdings and just leave them be?

I think there are precedents at the club for this sort of thing from earlier times when the man at the front was not the major shareholder, and worked quite well. The big problem of course is finding someone with ability to be the frontman, but that is perhaps still easier than finding someone with bagfuls of cash or looking for ways that the Trust could come up with a financial package.

Now, I don't know the answers, I'm just musing on the possibilities. Maybe someone else does have alternative suggestions. There are clearly plenty willing to put in their 2 pennorth about lynching the man but can we think a bit beyond the obvious?

Quoted from malkamalka

So, 3 pages of comments but ZERO suggestions.

That's the trouble with this forum - people are all gob when it comes to being critical, but don't have a clue on how to fix things.

Not much wonder Fenty won't budge!

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Oh come off your high horses and tell us something we don't know. It's the easy way out to sit there and snipe and make wish lists every time somebody tries to look just a tiny bit further than the end of our collective noses.

Until there is an alternative on the table we are stuck with what we have and resentment is growing with every day. My concern would be something happening in a great rush that is superficially attractive, i.e. involves Fenty going, which we all would love to see, but which does not have long term viability especially on the park. If that happens we don't go the way of the Accringtons or even the Newports, but the way of the Yorks.

So is there another way? Is there a way that leaves Fenty in place as major shareholder but takes off him those pesky decisions on football club matters that seem to be totally beyond his abilities? Can something be worked out that stops him being the public face of the club? Is there a possibility we could stop talking about his benign loans and shareholdings and just leave them be?

I think there are precedents at the club for this sort of thing from earlier times when the man at the front was not the major shareholder, and worked quite well. The big problem of course is finding someone with ability to be the frontman, but that is perhaps still easier than finding someone with bagfuls of cash or looking for ways that the Trust could come up with a financial package.

Now, I don't know the answers, I'm just musing on the possibilities. Maybe someone else does have alternative suggestions. There are clearly plenty willing to put in their 2 pennorth about lynching the man but can we think a bit beyond the obvious?

Quoted from malkamalka

So, 3 pages of comments but ZERO suggestions.

That's the trouble with this forum - people are all gob when it comes to being critical, but don't have a clue on how to fix things.

Not much wonder Fenty won't budge!

Quoted from Bigdog

Jesus.. there's been thread after thread of suggestions over the past few months..

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Good day to welcome him back to the Fishy ;)

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Oh come off your high horses and tell us something we don't know. It's the easy way out to sit there and snipe and make wish lists every time somebody tries to look just a tiny bit further than the end of our collective noses.

Until there is an alternative on the table we are stuck with what we have and resentment is growing with every day. My concern would be something happening in a great rush that is superficially attractive, i.e. involves Fenty going, which we all would love to see, but which does not have long term viability especially on the park. If that happens we don't go the way of the Accringtons or even the Newports, but the way of the Yorks.

So is there another way? Is there a way that leaves Fenty in place as major shareholder but takes off him those pesky decisions on football club matters that seem to be totally beyond his abilities? Can something be worked out that stops him being the public face of the club? Is there a possibility we could stop talking about his benign loans and shareholdings and just leave them be?

I think there are precedents at the club for this sort of thing from earlier times when the man at the front was not the major shareholder, and worked quite well. The big problem of course is finding someone with ability to be the frontman, but that is perhaps still easier than finding someone with bagfuls of cash or looking for ways that the Trust could come up with a financial package.

Now, I don't know the answers, I'm just musing on the possibilities. Maybe someone else does have alternative suggestions. There are clearly plenty willing to put in their 2 pennorth about lynching the man but can we think a bit beyond the obvious?

Quoted from mariner91

If you knew it already then why did you talk about Fenty "spending money" when it is a known fact, or it should be by now, that he hasn't spent any of his money on the club for at least five seasons now. The money he's spending is the money that come from us, the money that comes from sponsorship and the money that comes from other types of revenue. Which would all still be there if he left. And I daresay there are plenty of people out there who would spend it far better than he ever has.

Why is there no long term viability with Fenty gone? What a ridiculous statement and makes me wonder if you're suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. The two main issues this club have off the pitch are the appalling leadership we've endured for the last 15 years and the fact that one man has the club bent over a barrel with his "benign" loans. If Fenty leaves and takes his loans with him, then both of the problems are gone. Realistically, he'll never actually relinquish his loans, I doubt he'd even take a percentage of them. If he was actually interested in leaving then he'd have stated what price he'd accept for his loans and shares but he hasn't. He loves being in charge too much and I don't doubt for a second that he intends to get as much of his loans back as he can. For all his talk of loving the club etc, if he had any humility he'd accept that he's made a complete shitshow of running it and that he shouldn't get a 15 year stint of being chairman, with all the perks, completely free.

Beyond talking about hypothetical situations that won't happen, if he had any sense or wasn't such a control freak he'd have hired a chief executive years ago to take control of the day to day running of the club. They wouldn't necessarily come cheap, particularly if you wanted someone who'd make a good job of it but the benefit would far outweigh the cost of his wages. Particularly if he improved on all the areas where Fenty has failed so miserably. Again though, this won't happen because he's a megalomaniac and believes he's done a perfectly good job, never once accepting responsibility for the catalogue of errors he's made. You only need to look at the club statement from earlier in the week for evidence of that.

Ultimately, something will break in the very near future. There are plenty of people who are putting their frustrations with the regime to the background at the minute because of the situation on the pitch we find ourselves in. However, once it's known what league we're playing in next year, I think there'll be a huge outpouring of anger and resentment towards Fenty and his cronies. Either they will have to drastically change the way they run things which they've shown no sign of doing or their position will become untenable. I don't expect the board, and Fenty in particular, to put the clubs interests firsts should that happen so we may well go the way of a York and Stockport with dwindling gates and dying a slow death in non-league. But that doesn't mean that we couldn't be a sustainable League 2 club on our gates if we were run properly and weren't bogged down by one man, his ego and his loans.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Unlike Bignot and Slade I think Jolley would stick with having 23/24 players on the books,

Both of the above made out they only wanted a smaller number then signed loads more,
.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

I can see you getting a cross or two for that comment  ;)

Quoted from malkamalka

So, 3 pages of comments but ZERO suggestions.

That's the trouble with this forum - people are all gob when it comes to being critical, but don't have a clue on how to fix things.

Not much wonder Fenty won't budge!

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Good day to welcome him back to the Fishy ;)

Quoted from mariner91

If you knew it already then why did you talk about Fenty "spending money" when it is a known fact, or it should be by now, that he hasn't spent any of his money on the club for at least five seasons now. The money he's spending is the money that come from us, the money that comes from sponsorship and the money that comes from other types of revenue. Which would all still be there if he left. And I daresay there are plenty of people out there who would spend it far better than he ever has.

Why is there no long term viability with Fenty gone? What a ridiculous statement and makes me wonder if you're suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. The two main issues this club have off the pitch are the appalling leadership we've endured for the last 15 years and the fact that one man has the club bent over a barrel with his "benign" loans. If Fenty leaves and takes his loans with him, then both of the problems are gone. Realistically, he'll never actually relinquish his loans, I doubt he'd even take a percentage of them. If he was actually interested in leaving then he'd have stated what price he'd accept for his loans and shares but he hasn't. He loves being in charge too much and I don't doubt for a second that he intends to get as much of his loans back as he can. For all his talk of loving the club etc, if he had any humility he'd accept that he's made a complete shitshow of running it and that he shouldn't get a 15 year stint of being chairman, with all the perks, completely free.

Beyond talking about hypothetical situations that won't happen, if he had any sense or wasn't such a control freak he'd have hired a chief executive years ago to take control of the day to day running of the club. They wouldn't necessarily come cheap, particularly if you wanted someone who'd make a good job of it but the benefit would far outweigh the cost of his wages. Particularly if he improved on all the areas where Fenty has failed so miserably. Again though, this won't happen because he's a megalomaniac and believes he's done a perfectly good job, never once accepting responsibility for the catalogue of errors he's made. You only need to look at the club statement from earlier in the week for evidence of that.

Ultimately, something will break in the very near future. There are plenty of people who are putting their frustrations with the regime to the background at the minute because of the situation on the pitch we find ourselves in. However, once it's known what league we're playing in next year, I think there'll be a huge outpouring of anger and resentment towards Fenty and his cronies. Either they will have to drastically change the way they run things which they've shown no sign of doing or their position will become untenable. I don't expect the board, and Fenty in particular, to put the clubs interests firsts should that happen so we may well go the way of a York and Stockport with dwindling gates and dying a slow death in non-league. But that doesn't mean that we couldn't be a sustainable League 2 club on our gates if we were run properly and weren't bogged down by one man, his ego and his loans.

Agree with 99% of that, its just I'd go with "clusterfuck" Shitshow just doesn't tell the full story!

Quoted from Cambs Mariner

He isn't the Messiah. He is just a narcissistic tw@t who has destroyed a football club.