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You tend to have the worst GD when you can't score and you ship goals by the shed load.

I haven't worked it out but I bet its worse per game under MJ than under RS or PW. We're getting worse if anything as the fight just seems to have left us. :(

FFS Give the bloke a chance he is trying to sort this shat out it's the players who need to up their game only they can make a real diference are they really that shat???

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

FFS Give the bloke a chance he is trying to sort this shat out it's the players who need to up their game only they can make a real diference are they really that shat???

Looking at the goal from the free kick this part zonal marking looks a pile of excrement so he should dump that.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

FFS Give the bloke a chance he is trying to sort this shat out it's the players who need to up their game only they can make a real diference are they really that shat???

But isn't it up to Jolley to get the players to up their game?

If they are so shite that its impossible and no one could, then why have we changed manager?

Quoted from Ipswin

But isn't it up to Jolley to get the players to up their game?

If they are so shite that its impossible and no one could, then why have we changed manager?

As a coach you can only get as much out of a player as they are willing to give and can give, I do think most of the players are giving all they've got and sadly theres nothing more that Jolley can get out of them as Slade has assembled some god awful players.

Quoted from sonofmadeleymariner

As a coach you can only get as much out of a player as they are willing to give and can give, I do think most of the players are giving all they've got and sadly theres nothing more that Jolley can get out of them as Slade has assembled some god awful players.

Question is how the hell did this team win the games they did? After 21 games (almost half the season) we were level on points with the play-offs on 32 points. We've only managed 5 points in the 18 games since then.

Quoted from GrimRob

Question is how the hell did this team win the games they did? After 21 games (almost half the season) we were level on points with the play-offs on 32 points. We've only managed 5 points in the 18 games since then.

This keeps getting asked but to me there a few reasons that really stand out:

- we had Jones who could score a few
- we had Dembele playing really well, people complain about lack of end product but he had a few goals and assists, more than practically all our other players. Teams were recognising his ability and putting one or two players on him which helped to reduce other teams threat to us.
- A few of the older players are at the age that their bodies cant keep going for a full season, Collins and Davies in particular were good enough earlier in the season but have faded badly. Clarke was mediocre earlier in the season, as the season has gone on he has faded to absolute dog excrement.

To a lesser extent:
- Macca being out during some of the second half of the season probably exacerbated the winless run and drove down confidence
- Summerfield was in the form of his life, he gave us energy and broke up the opposition attacks a fair bit, don't think he has been quite as good since (or always available)

Just my thoughts...

Quoted from toontown

This keeps getting asked but to me there a few reasons that really stand out:

- we had Jones who could score a few
- we had Dembele playing really well, people complain about lack of end product but he had a few goals and assists, more than practically all our other players. Teams were recognising his ability and putting one or two players on him which helped to reduce other teams threat to us.
- A few of the older players are at the age that their bodies cant keep going for a full season, Collins and Davies in particular were good enough earlier in the season but have faded badly. Clarke was mediocre earlier in the season, as the season has gone on he has faded to absolute dog excrement.

To a lesser extent:
- Macca being out during some of the second half of the season probably exacerbated the winless run and drove down confidence
- Summerfield was in the form of his life, he gave us energy and broke up the opposition attacks a fair bit, don't think he has been quite as good since (or always available)

Just my thoughts...

The team would have continued to pick up points but the board (Fenty) cocked it up.

They thought we were safe, and when the play offs started to slip away they looked towards next season.

They obviously told Slade to slash the wage bill. They allowed the sale of our most creative players to save a few quid.

They didn't keep their promise of better recruitment in the window (presumably they didn't want to pay the going rate) and my guess is that the remaining players took their foot off the gas. Once a signal is given in professional sport that the manager / non chairman are looking to the next season players realise that they are unlikely to be needed at the end of the season once their contracts are up. The will to win is diminished and team spirit drops. Once the rot sets in it is difficult to stop which is why I have said weeks ago on here we will go down.

This is were Fenty really is a bungling amateur. Everything to him is about saving a few pounds. He never looks at the bigger picture and hence we will be relegated again out of the league altogether in the space of 4 league campaigns. It would have been 3 relegations had it not been for Luton's points deduction.

Just a thought on Slade, if Fenty instructed him to sell the high earners then, we continued on the winless streak hence eventually Slade getting the sack, do you think Fenty had to give him a little bonus to keep quiet, or won't Slade criticise Fenty.

As for Jolley, I assume he is on the mandatory 6 month rolling contract, if we are finally relegated will Fenty keep or get rid?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The team would have continued to pick up points but the board (Fenty) cocked it up.

They thought we were safe, and when the play offs started to slip away they looked towards next season.

They obviously told Slade to slash the wage bill. They allowed the sale of our most creative players to save a few quid.

They didn't keep their promise of better recruitment in the window (presumably they didn't want to pay the going rate) and my guess is that the remaining players took their foot off the gas. Once a signal is given in professional sport that the manager / non chairman are looking to the next season players realise that they are unlikely to be needed at the end of the season once their contracts are up. The will to win is diminished and team spirit drops. Once the rot sets in it is difficult to stop which is why I have said weeks ago on here we will go down.

This is were Fenty really is a bungling amateur. Everything to him is about saving a few pounds. He never looks at the bigger picture and hence we will be relegated again out of the league altogether in the space of 4 league campaigns. It would have been 3 relegations had it not been for Luton's points deduction.

NO it would still have been two but one year earlier, cant get relegated from the same division two years running :)

Quoted from cleethorpes_mariner

NO it would still have been two but one year earlier, cant get relegated from the same division two years running :)

True, but the warning signs were not heeded. We had a massive flashing red light, yet still somehow contrived to repeat it the next season. It was a great laugh being in a league 2 relegation battle for a full 2 seasons straight.

Quoted from cleethorpes_mariner

NO it would still have been two but one year earlier, cant get relegated from the same division two years running :)

Phew thank God for that. What would we do without Fenty masterminding the situation to our advantage by being unable to be relegated from the same division two years running. ;D