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Posted by: 120790 (Guest), January 15, 2018, 10:10am
So, Padraig Amond has highlighted that Newport County played to the conditions at Blundell Park, this being the negative atmosphere surrounding the place at the moment.

Very interesting to hear that teams come here, fully appraised of the unrest and ill feeling around the place, and seek to take advantage of that.

Clearly teams are going to realise all of this. More teams will come here looking to frustrate, which in turn gets the crowd on the back of the team and reverses any element of the home advantage. It's a fair bet that once this starts in a game, that there is plenty of verbal sledging being given to our players on the pitch too by their opponents, just to unsettle them and get under their skin a bit more.

It is going to take a huge improvement in performances and results to reverse this scenario now. Something is needed to quickly spark a reaction and to give the team an uplift. For me the only answer at this stage in the season, is a new management team. I cannot see any point at all in sticking with with what we have got and hoping for the best. All I can see is us slipping even more and ending up in a relegation battle.

Posted by: Bigdog, January 15, 2018, 10:43am; Reply: 1
The players need someone new to give them a renewed boost in belief, commitment to the cause and confidence coupled with a new sense of direction. You can see in his interviews that it's never going to come from Slade..

If Fenty is waiting for that Braintree away redemption moment he got with Hurst, he'll be waiting forever and a day to get that from Slade..
Posted by: ginnywings, January 15, 2018, 10:47am; Reply: 2
Think this is being massively overplayed. Any manager would point out to their players that a team, any team, that hasn't won in 6, is barely scoring and has lost three in a row, will be low on confidence and the home fans will be brittle.

Of course, it makes much better reading if we say it's the fault of 'toxic' Grimsby fans as per usual.
Posted by: Mallyner, January 15, 2018, 11:35am; Reply: 3
I know Slade is expected to make an after match summing up, but no amount of "I thought we were unlucky to lose:" or "I thought we were the better team;" disguises the fact, that the opposition scored more goals than we did.

Football is a simple game really and no amount of 11 players defending a corner, 443, 424, 451 matters at the end of the day, if we don't score more than the opposition. And to win, you have to score at least 1 goal.

We seemed to be on a roll a few games back, but on those days, we just scored more or the same as the opposition and from what I saw, we were not usually the better team.

Amen.  :)
Posted by: 1mickylyons, January 15, 2018, 11:44am; Reply: 4
I can`t see how the GY fans can be anything but negative really given the style of football.The Swindon game being the exact opposite of the norm when town came out to a fast tempo and even when losing largely kept control of the game. That was the yardstick for a home performance play like that the crowd are no problem at all they will back it to the hilt win lose or draw.
Posted by: Maringer, January 15, 2018, 12:00pm; Reply: 5
We played some decent football during the first 15 or so minutes on Saturday when I thought Vernam did well upping the tempo and moving the ball on. Of course, they then scored with their first proper chance and that knocked the stuffing out of us.

Not convinced the squad has the ability or movement to play a passing game but we certainly don't have the personnel to play a long-ball game so I'm happy enough to see a bit more passing.

Main thing is we've just got to stop conceding such stupid soft goals because we're never going to outscore many teams and we're practically giving the opposition goals at the moment.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, January 15, 2018, 12:04pm; Reply: 6
What I saw in Newport was a team closing us down in possession as quickly as they could and making more movement than we did. These are fundamentals that most teams that have come to BP seem to able to do better than us.
Posted by: headingly_mariner, January 15, 2018, 12:07pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from ginnywings
Think this is being massively overplayed. Any manager would point out to their players that a team, any team, that hasn't won in 6, is barely scoring and has lost three in a row, will be low on confidence and the home fans will be brittle.

Of course, it makes much better reading if we say it's the fault of 'toxic' Grimsby fans as per usual.


True, I don't think our fans are particularly negative. I just think the situation on and off the pitch is massively negative.
I am not usually one for a sacking and I don't really think that Slade is the big problem here, but I can't see how the crowds will rise under him without an unrealistic improvement. The board's hand will be forced within the next two games and I think they will look very silly.
Posted by: The_Chief, January 15, 2018, 12:51pm; Reply: 8
Any team having come from behind to knock out a team 2 division higher than them in the FA Cup will come into their next game full of confidence and chomping at the bit.  On the other hand we were coming into the game on an horrendous run of form having lost 2-0 at home to the mighty Morecombe.  
Posted by: moosey_club, January 15, 2018, 12:52pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from 120790
So, Padraig Amond has highlighted that Newport County played to the conditions at Blundell Park, this being the negative atmosphere surrounding the place at the moment.

Very interesting to hear that teams come here, fully appraised of the unrest and ill feeling around the place, and seek to take advantage of that.

Clearly teams are going to realise all of this. More teams will come here looking to frustrate, which in turn gets the crowd on the back of the team and reverses any element of the home advantage. It's a fair bet that once this starts in a game, that there is plenty of verbal sledging being given to our players on the pitch too by their opponents, just to unsettle them and get under their skin a bit more.

It is going to take a huge improvement in performances and results to reverse this scenario now. Something is needed to quickly spark a reaction and to give the team an uplift. For me the only answer at this stage in the season, is a new management team. I cannot see any point at all in sticking with with what we have got and hoping for the best. All I can see is us slipping even more and ending up in a relegation battle.



He said that but lets face it...they didnt play to the conditions did they ?  We definitely started the better, had the possession and were looking quite bright up until they came up our end and scored.  
They then benefited from the conditions as the crowd instantly turned but initially i thought they were poor and we looked promising.  

However doesnt mean to say that teams could come, park the bus, play a spoiling game and after 15 mins the crowd would undoubtedly start to grumble.
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, January 15, 2018, 12:59pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from moosey_club


He said that but lets face it...they didnt play to the conditions did they ?  We definitely started the better, had the possession and were looking quite bright up until they came up our end and scored.  
They then benefited from the conditions as the crowd instantly turned but initially i thought they were poor and we looked promising.  

However doesnt mean to say that teams could come, park the bus, play a spoiling game and after 15 mins the crowd would undoubtedly start to grumble.


I agree to an extent Moosey but our promising start didn't really provide us with anything particularly clear cut to really take control of the game

They however took the first opportunity that came their way.... it's a long running them with us I'd say

After they scored too, I'm pretty sure everyone knew there was only one team going to win and on any other day, they could have been 3-0 up at half time if not for some clearances from Davies & Mills who both made some good last ditch clearances
Posted by: moosey_club, January 15, 2018, 4:06pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from FishOutOfWater


I agree to an extent Moosey but our promising start didn't really provide us with anything particularly clear cut to really take control of the game

They however took the first opportunity that came their way.... it's a long running them with us I'd say

After they scored too, I'm pretty sure everyone knew there was only one team going to win and on any other day, they could have been 3-0 up at half time if not for some clearances from Davies & Mills who both made some good last ditch clearances


Absolutely...but our lack of  goal threat in that initial quarter of the game was more our doing than anything to do with them being set up with a park the bus game plan i thought.
Never mind after they scored....I am pretty sure at 2pm when it was announced Vernon was starting most of us thought we would struggle
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