Much changed today mainly because of injuries but Collins rested.

Killip
Davies
Osborne
Clarke
Dixon
Dembele
Berrett
Summerfield
Jayesime
Woolford
Vernon

4-4-1-1 with Woolford behind Vernon. Hmmm!

Quoted from ginnywings

Much changed today mainly because of injuries but Collins rested.

Killip
Davies
Osborne
Clarke
Dixon
Dembele
Berrett
Summerfield
Jayesime
Woolford
Vernon

4-4-1-1 with Woolford behind Vernon. Hmmm!

I'm going for 4-3-3 with DJ & Dembele wide of Vernon, Woolford on the left side of a 3 man midfield.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I'm going for 4-3-3 with DJ & Dembele wide of Vernon, Woolford on the left side of a 3 man midfield.

Nope. Tondeur has said it is 4-4-1-1.

He has had a long chat with Slade he said.

Nice to see Harry Clifton on the bench

Would have been nicer to see Jamey Osbourne. Could have done with him today with all the injuries and illness around.

Jeez. That team would struggle in the Conference.

Quoted from davmariner

Jeez. That team would struggle in the Conference.

We should win then  ;)

Get a bet on 365, Clifton to come on, 100 to 1 chance.

Playing for a draw then?  Hoping for a goal from a set piece?  Confused by this team!

Quoted from ginnywings

Would have been nicer to see Jamey Osbourne. Could have done with him today with all the injuries and illness around.

Agreed, 24 hour call back my bottom.

It's great to have a big squad with a multitude of options.

I imagine.

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

Playing for a draw then?  Hoping for a goal from a set piece?  Confused by this team!

Looks a team of last man standing gets a game. Most changes forced by injury and Collins rested as Slade feels he isn't up to 2 games so close together. What it does is highlight our lack of depth and puts into question the signings of Hooper and Kelly. If they can't get a start in these circumstances, it doesn't say a lot for their abilities.

Quoted from ginnywings

Much changed today mainly because of injuries but Collins rested.

Killip
Davies
Osborne
Clarke
Dixon
Dembele
Berrett
Summerfield
Jayesime
Woolford
Vernon

4-4-1-1 with Woolford behind Vernon. Hmmm!

What in gods name is that?????

Why can’t he play cardwell or hopper up front instead of Veron

Should be no problems with our big squad--oh wait

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

What in gods name is that?????

Checkatrade Trophy side?

Shows the limitations of our squad if that's the best we can come up with after shuffling the pack

Clements, Bolarinwa, Osbourne... All not good enough to be here apparently.

JT's first words in commentary " and we get underway and Town hit it long".................... There you go wit the game plan?

Is Sam Jones injured? I thought he would be on the bench at least. Maybe a 'kick up the rear' or already out of Slade's reckoning.

Quoted from MarinerRob

Is Sam Jones injured? I thought he would be on the bench at least. Maybe a 'kick up the rear' or already out of Slade's reckoning.

Injured.

God that team looks utterly rubbish on paper.

Just out of interest, if Killip gets injured, and not wishing injury to anyone but, who of our match day squad would go in goal?

Amond has scored already for Newport - how nice it must be to have someone who knows where the goal is

Gimps winning at Luton and Luton down to 10

Matt Rhead up to his usual dirty tricks.  Lol

1-0 crewe

1-0 down

And we are 1 down already

11 minutes in and we’re one down

It’s going to be a long year methinks

UTM

Another 5-0 thrashing coming I reckon

Sounds like poor defending.  

Slade and Fenty out chants coming from the stands

Quoted from chaos33

God that team looks utterly rubbish on paper.

I don’t think they’ll look much better on grass.

Joke.

Everything is stale.  Cant wait for RS to get the boot i can see why JF appointed him but its not working.  I have no idea what the answer is but id much rather have a manager that has a better brand of football and is assertive.

Feel for the fans

If we go behind, very rarely do we turn it around. Chances are that this game is already done going on previous experience.

Any chance we can sack a manager mid game?

Get them all out

On the occasions Crewe get it down and play they are very threatening. Particularly with the left back Bakayogo who squared it for the goal. Other than that its mainly hoofing and head tennis

If RS is manager next season i can see us go down.

Quoted from Meza

If RS is manager next season i can see us go down.

Based upon?

Vernon may as well not be on the pitch for all the attacking threat he's offered so far. He's so past it it isn't funny.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Vernon may as well not be on the pitch for all the attacking threat he's offered so far. He's so past it it isn't funny.

Well whats the point as putting him as lone striker. The guys fighting a losing battle anyway, no support around him at all

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Based upon?

Gut feeling....Herts.  the way RS is....his tatics....how he handles players.  

As a fan i've lost confidence in him.

Quoted from Meza

If RS is manager next season i can see us go down.

We're not safe this season yet!

Meza, didn't you listen to the fans forum, Slade is a tactical genius with his power point presentation.

Game over already

FFS......... Game over!

I am sure he's a nice lad but what makes it worse is Lowther is doing me fukin head in.

well, you could see that coming a mile off. they had already squandered two chances before that. rubbish.

Slade go. Wilkinson go. Fenty GO take marley sod off. This is flipping embarrassing

2-0

Sounds like it will be damage limitation for the rest of the game

Unless anyone can see us scoring three? 😂

2-0. Free kick into the box. Killip tries to punch clear but doesn't and it's volleyed into an empty net

How many do we think 4? 5? 6? or more

Quoted from Gaffer58

Meza, didn't you listen to the fans forum, Slade is a tactical genius with his power point presentation.

Oh so he's advanced from the writing board at Lincoln. Lol  

Maybe a young lad but killip is crap

Hope Dave Moore is getting better, caretaker required UTM

Quoted from OllieGTFC

Maybe a young lad but killip is crap

He fits in well with the other 10 then...

Just checking, Crewe are top of the table and unbeaten this year.

Not sure what to make of this.  Commentators on the radio pleading that this is better than Accrington, but Crewe have already made the game safe inside 35 minutes.

Conceded 6 and scored 0 since Killip came in. Do the defence trust him?

Nearly 3. Passing move around a static defence. Shot at the near post deflected wide

I'm going for 5....  sadly.....  😡😩

Bleurgh. intercourse off Fenty/Slade

Appalling

It's depressing when the score comes up on Sky before the commentary.
It's depressing listening to a lifeless display
It's depressing
Happy new year, same old garbage. When did Vernon last win a ball in the air?

Get these players back off loan. Cant be any worse than the excrement you and wilkinson have signed slade

They are not even a good side. We got walloped by a side that had lost 5 on the trot on Saturday and now we are getting torn a new one by a side that are struggling below us. We are so easy to get behind, it's scary.

Surely Asante has to offer something more than Vernon and Hooper?

Something very important must happen to prevent our slide back into the conference... and sooner rather than later...  this is just depressing... even predicting our defeats and waiting for the score updates to prove me right... ffs.....

We need a keeper on loan, we can not persist with Killip waiting for Mckeown to be fit

We are fuckin doomed 👊

Quoted from buckstown

Surely Asante has to offer something more than Vernon and Hooper?

Pat Glover offers more than Vernon and Hooper.

JF.....its not difficult to see.  You need to act NOW!

The fans have lost confidence
The players have lost confidence

There is simply nothing to shout about.   Its a good job there are 5/6 teams worse than us.

Quoted from ginnywings

Conceded 6 and scored 0 since Killip came in. Do the defence trust him?

Does he trust them? Does he get the protection? Genuine questions.

I reckon the players will have lost confidence in him as well he is just treading water hoping to amass enough points to stay up.  His mandate will be next season we will do better.  Well by then Dembele, J.D. Jones and anyone else worth keeping will have long gone.

Quoted from buckstown

Surely Asante has to offer something more than Vernon and Hooper?

Why did we even sign Hooper? If Vernon and Woolford can get in the side before him, what's the point?

Quoted from ginnywings

They are not even a good side. We got walloped by a side that had lost 5 on the trot on Saturday and now we are getting torn a new one by a side that are struggling below us. We are so easy to get behind, it's scary.

Yeah I can live with being average and losing to decent teams but we need to be doing better against these even if it's away.

I will be disappointed no revise that, really fukin p1ssed off if for Saturday we haven't got a keeper and a striker in as well as Osborne and Tombola back. I can defend Slade for having to clear up the Bignot crap but not using everything at your disposal is irresponsible,

Quoted from Davec

We need a keeper on loan, we can not persist with Killip waiting for Mckeown to be fit

What do you expect with the way the rest of the team in front of him are [or are not] playing !!!!!

Town free kick in the box (backpass)

Over from Davies

Quoted from Gaffer58

Just checking, Crewe are top of the table and unbeaten this year.

Very good Gaffer!  ;)

Over the bar from 6 yards oh my flipping god

ROFLMAO!
Couldn't make that excrement up!!!!!

free kick from a back pass about 6 yards out and we can't even hit the fukin target???

I always liked non league anyways

Why isn't a forward taking the shot, a bit like having defenders taking penalties.

Asante and Tom only subs today ,does that answer questions

Quoted from HertsGTFC

free kick from a back pass about 6 yards out and we can't even hit the fukin target???

Was that Vernon?

Jamey Osborne sent off for solihull

Osbourne off

Osborne just got sent off at Solihull, I assume cannot play next game anyway, Slade's excuse for not bringing him back.

I can hear the post match excuses now. Lot's of injuries, tired players, no luck, didn't do the basics, the kit is the wrong colour, the ground faces east west and not north south.........

abit off topic but Osborne's been sent off  for solihull

Jamey Osbourne sent off , handball

Quoted from Gaffer58

Why isn't a forward taking the shot, a bit like having defenders taking penalties.

I think the only out and out forward we have on the pitch today is Vernon

He'd probably be nowhere near the ball if it had been played to him, never mind getting a shot off

Missed from six yards ?

How the hell will he score from the penalty spot. If
we ever get one of course.

Quoted from 28195

Was that Vernon?

Davis

How the hell do you put it over from 6 yards out?

I've never understood why, when faced with these indirect free-kicks, the attacking team don't just place a few of their own players on the line and then just take a huge run up to belt the ball through the wall, and take the (very high) chance that it'll brush someone or something on the way through.

Total lack of composure or invention from Town.  They look like they couldn't score if they were out there all day.

Osborne sent off for Solihull and banned for 3......

Quoted from Gaffer58

Osborne just got sent off at Solihull, I assume cannot play next game anyway, Slade's excuse for not bringing him back.

Or Osborne's plan not to come back for a bit longer., well 3 games at least :)  

Another fukin (but talented) liability.

Was Osbornes red a 3 gamer or 1 gamer?

Quoted from OllieGTFC

I always liked non league anyways

Better get ready for it again Mate

Quoted from HistonMariner

Osborne sent off for Solihull and banned for 3......

Only 1.....second yellow

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Based upon?

The excrement I am sat here watching I presume. :B

I do like the look of Wokings manager.  Anyone is better than this helmet.  

Quoted from chaos33

God that team looks utterly rubbish on paper.

And that piece of paper fell out of a Xmas cracker.

This will be one hell of a half time team talk !

Quoted from Gaffer58

This will be one hell of a half time team talk !

......complete with flow charts and power point display.

I fancy us to score in the second half
[img]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif[/img]

Could this lot score in a knocking shop?

Quoted from rancido

......complete with flow charts and power point display.

Whatever happened to a good old style bollokin at half time?

Matt on for DJ

Can't quite hear what was said but Mitch Rose had to get a steward involved because of something one of our fans was saying to him from

Not good

Can the rain move from Accrington to Crewe quickly please.

Half time substitution

Matt on for DJ

So if we continue to hit it long and high, who will go for the ball, Matt or Vernon?

Probably neither of them…just leave it for their defence to mop up

Quoted from Sigone

Can the rain move from Accrington to Crewe quickly please.

Already here, tipping it down

Quoted from Mikoo

Can't quite hear what was said but Mitch Rose had to get a steward involved because of something one of our fans was saying to him from

Not good

Not another Toto moment I hope. :-/

12 page match thread already!

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Not another Toto moment I hope. :-/

Me neither, but now Police are talking to the fan in question

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Not another Toto moment I hope. :-/

Yeah let’s hope there’s some evidence this time before jumping to conclusions.

Our proactive SLO will sort it out.

Where's Squarkus when you could do with a balanced opinion?

I've just witnessed Paul Dixon, under literally no pressure at all, on his strong foot, pass the ball out of play. An absolute fraud of a player.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Half time substitution

Matt on for DJ

So if we continue to hit it long and high, who will go for the ball, Matt or Vernon?

Probably neither of them…just leave it for their defence to mop up

If we are determined to go direct get Vernon off Collins on and get a CB up front, if we're going to go to parks football lets do it properly FFS.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Not another Toto moment I hope. :-/

Given that there will be 10% of the Town fans that there were at Halifax, it should be easy to identify what really happened.
Only read about it on here so no idea what has allegedly occurred. But however sh1t the team are playing, if it is racist than the bloke concerned should be prosecuted.

Looks like we are getting better all the time. Lost 5-0 last year.
Need to beat morecambe next Saturday or there will be hell on :o

Fenty needs to call another fans forum right now!

Quoted from Ipswin

Fenty needs to call another fans forum right now!

Ipswin I laughed so hard at your signature lmao

Quoted from Ipswin

Fenty needs to call another fans forum right now!

Can't stop thinking how lucky Fenty was with the last one coming after a couple of decent results which doused the flames of anger that were beginning to rage. Well John, they're burning and raging like the very fires of Hell itself now!

This isn’t good enough by Town and I think we all now know where the problem lies and it’s not just R Slade, things need to change and soon.

Ha ha ha ha ............. Fukin hell Lowther has just said "Crewe have not showed the killer instinct" funniest thing I've heard since one of our on loan players got sent off playing on loan  and can't come back next week.

Will Jamey Osborne pay his red card fine to Solihull or to us?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Does he trust them? Does he get the protection? Genuine questions.

Nothing to do with trust.
The whole team are excrement that's why stats are as they are since the lad came in. Things would be no different if Macca was between the sticks.

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

Will Jamey Osborne pay his red card fine to Solihull or to us?

Maybe when he decides whether he wants to be a professional footballer or not.

Doesn't help we get denied a blatant pen

Looking for a crumb of comfort to make us feel a tiny bit better and there it is....Fylde 4 Tranmere 1 (blushing)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Maybe when he decides whether he wants to be a professional footballer or not.

If he decides he wants to be a professional he'll be best advised to stay at Solihull

Cardwell replaces Vernon

I guess a hat-trick is out of the question? 😉

Fast heading out the back door  to non league   , where slade is heading

2 shots on target all game

Quoted from RoboCod

Looking for a crumb of comfort to make us feel a tiny bit better and there it is....Fylde 4 Tranmere 1 (blushing)

Charlie Cooper sent-off for FGR.

Mark Cooper gets sent to the stands for protesting his sons sending-off     ;D

The only positive I can think of is that the bottom 3 are all losing. Oh, and that I didn't go.

The first goal killed off any chance of getting anything out of the game really.

Quoted from denni266

Fast heading out the back door  to non league   , where slade is heading

Chesterfield, Barnet and VGR are all doing their best to keep us up, all losing ATM.

We go a goal behind and we all know it's game over. What a sad state of affairs.

You mean there are 3 worse teams than town at the moment.

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

The first goal killed off any chance of getting anything out of the game really.

Yep, we've now failed to score in 8 of the last 12 league games.

Quoted from Gaffer58

You mean there are 3 worse teams than town at the moment.

Luckily it would appear to be the case.

The game was going nowhere in the 2nd half so I can't see why Cardwell and Clifton did not get on earlier or at all in the case of Harry.

Loved JT’s parting comment

Shuffled the pack but they’re all the two of spades and not an ace amongst them

Quality summary 😂

Quoted from Abdul19

Yep, we've now failed to score in 8 of the last 12 league games.

It's 9 of the last 13.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Chesterfield, Barnet and VGR are all doing their best to keep us up, all losing ATM.

Good job someone is playing for us then  ;)

Quoted from Abdul19

The only positive I can think of is that the bottom 3 are all losing. Oh, and that I didn't go.

Thing is both FGR and Barnet will change their managers soon and get the new manager bounce where as we will stay as we are ??)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

It's 9 of the last 13.

If you add the fa cup match, yes.

Quoted from Bigdog

https://twitter.com/GrimsbyTownPR/status/947862687853305856

and to amend that quote there is no PR at Town, just impostors pretending to be players, management, and boardroom. Sack the board, and Fenty with his mate Sladeball OUT OUT OUT!!!

Still 14th and still 5 wins clear of the bottom 2, so once again shows how poor this league is that we can get thumped twice in two days and stay where we are. Drifted out to 8 points from the play offs again though. We get close and fade away time and again. Poor team in a poor league is how i would sum us up at the turn of the year.

Perfect time to give Clifton a run out today in the second half. What did we have to lose?

We now enter 2018 on minus 6 goal difference. Given that when we do occasionally win it's often by one goal. It could possibly take 5 or 6 wins to even get the goal difference to zero. Any more defeats of course will just add to the minus tally and require more wins and goals.
How on earth does anyone see this team as capable of making a late run into the playoffs?
I'd settle for Dave Moore right now as caretaker while the board take the rest of the season to make the right choice.

Brings Cardwell on when the match as gone ffs Slade you really have not got any ambition or desire what so ever.

Though I think Fenty  will keep you here Slade just to spite us the fans.

It's become personal and we all know Fenty's hatred of anybody that questions his authority/position.

But we'd still be stuck with the same mediocre players and going back to square one with half of them on 2 year deals, with a new man wanting to bring his own players in and we can't get shut of the dross. More of the same I'm afraid. We have to suck it up folks. What's done is done. For now.

The only thing I can see that could help us is to find a sum of money to pay off players and invest in some new ones, in January, and then take stock at the end of the season. Those people calling for Fenty and the board to resign and walk en mass might like to point out where the money to run the club will come from in that case, in the short term at least. We are in a stalemate for the foreseeable future in my opinion. Results might continue in the same vein, home crowds will fall below 3000 and we might limp our way to safety or, at best, lower mid table nothingness.

Quoted from chaos33

But we'd still be stuck with the same mediocre players and going back to square one with half of them on 2 year deals, with a new man wanting to bring his own players in and we can't get shut of the dross. More of the same I'm afraid. We have to suck it up folks. What's done is done. For now.

The only thing I can see that could help us is to find a sum of money to pay off players and invest in some new ones, in January, and then take stock at the end of the season. Those people calling for Fenty and the board to resign and walk en mass might like to point out where the money to run the club will come from in that case, in the short term at least. We are in a stalemate for the foreseeable future in my opinion. Results might continue in the same vein, home crowds will fall below 3000 and we might limp our way to safety or, at best, lower mid table nothingness.

Though I think he's miles away from warranting a big money move I fear that the only way we can do the bit in bold is to sell Dembelle for a relatively small sum say a few hundred grand  if someone comes in for him. Otherwise we'll have to tough it out for another season or so I reckon.

Quoted from chaos33

But we'd still be stuck with the same mediocre players and going back to square one with half of them on 2 year deals, with a new man wanting to bring his own players in and we can't get shut of the dross. We have to suck it up folks. What's done is done. For now.

Can't believe I'm saying this but Dave Moore stepping in would do it for me, as unadventurous as it sounds. Because for me, Fenty and Slade have poisoned this club in the last couple of months in particular. The forum was awful, the unveiling of the horrendous Marley a shock to the system, he's the mad ranting family member you keep locked up in the cellar, not parade in front of the fans and media.
As bad as it was we still had a decent unbeaten run to possibly build on back then, but that seems to have crashed spectacularly since Fenty's new attack dog Slade ordered Matt Dean from the training ground. Had our majority shareholder and our manager put as much effort into running the club and the team as they put into attacking a local journalist I'm sure we'd be at least a bit better off.

Give it to Mooro, grind the results out and let the season dwindle away then delete it from history, then let everyone involved do some soul searching and do what's right for the club before it's really too late.

Although I would like Slade to go but I am afraid it's the same situation as England. Over the last 15 odd years England have had a number of managers, some with half decent records but, they were still all working with basically the same players, who as we know were just not good enough. Even if we change manager he will still be working with the same players, the only hope would be if he had better ideas and tactics than what we've got now.

I didnt go today and tbh never planned to.

However i would normally have put on the radio commentary. This season has gradually sucked my enthusiasm away so i didnt even bother with that.

Thought I'd check my phone after about half and hour just to see ........2 down. Oh well. Game over then. I didnt even bother following the score after that ......what was the point. I have never seen Slade do anything to change a game so this would be no different. I haven't read the match report...again no need to really. I expect Town tried to keep it tight after going 2 nil down and did nothing to really get back in the game. In that sense Slade would be content no further damage happened.

Getting to the point that i can be arsed with much more of this. Morecambe at home on Saturday....bumper crowd there then. Can i summon the will to make the 60 mile round trip?? Have my ST so probably will but if things dont get better ( and i mean positive performances as  much as results) the day may come when i will think nah.

Slade wont change so wake up Fenty. We will get nowhere with him in charge. Then do the honourable thing yourself.

I also am questioning what Wilko actually does. He was a forward (a pretty good one as well) so presumably has some input on our attacking ideas???? This side is one of the most clueless , inept, shite sides going forward I have ever seen in my life.

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

I didnt go today and tbh never planned to.

However i would normally have put on the radio commentary. This season has gradually sucked my enthusiasm away so i didnt even bother with that.

Thought I'd check my phone after about half and hour just to see ........2 down. Oh well. Game over then. I didnt even bother following the score after that ......what was the point. I have never seen Slade do anything to change a game so this would be no different. I haven't read the match report...again no need to really. I expect Town tried to keep it tight after going 2 nil down and did nothing to really get back in the game. In that sense Slade would be content no further damage happened.

Getting to the point that i can be arsed with much more of this. Morecambe at home on Saturday....bumper crowd there then. Can i summon the will to make the 60 mile round trip?? Have my ST so probably will but if things dont get better ( and i mean positive performances as  much as results) the day may come when i will think nah.

Slade wont change so wake up Fenty. We will get nowhere with him in charge. Then do the honourable thing yourself.

I also am questioning what Wilko actually does. He was a forward (a pretty good one as well) so presumably has some input on our attacking ideas???? This side is one of the most clueless , inept, shite sides going forward I have ever seen in my life.

It was really odd before the game, Wilko was doing the warm up with the defenders. Not the attackers

Well the big test during the Christmas period came and went what did we learn?

Unlike our neighbours Lincoln we failed miserably to step up to the mark, their squad is mean and lean( yeah even Rheed) and not afraid to go at the opposition full of confidence.

A nice sized squad Ideally placed to make a couple of quality signings for the final push and marshaled by two talented young managers.

Our side looks toothless without ideas an excess of contracted players not wanted by the manager sent away disillusioned.

Only players to show consistency being Clarke,Collins Summerfield, and Dembele.

It's going to be a painful second half probably without the only bright spark worth the entrance fee ho will be gone to pastures new.

Quoted from TAGG

Nothing to do with trust.
The whole team are excrement that's why stats are as they are since the lad came in. Things would be no different if Macca was between the sticks.

That's what i was getting at.

Quoted from RoboCod

Can't believe I'm saying this but Dave Moore stepping in would do it for me, as unadventurous as it sounds. Because for me, Fenty and Slade have poisoned this club in the last couple of months in particular. The forum was awful, the unveiling of the horrendous Marley a shock to the system, he's the mad ranting family member you keep locked up in the cellar, not parade in front of the fans and media.
As bad as it was we still had a decent unbeaten run to possibly build on back then, but that seems to have crashed spectacularly since Fenty's new attack dog Slade ordered Matt Dean from the training ground. Had our majority shareholder and our manager put as much effort into running the club and the team as they put into attacking a local journalist I'm sure we'd be at least a bit better off.

Give it to Mooro, grind the results out and let the season dwindle away then delete it from history, then let everyone involved do some soul searching and do what's right for the club before it's really too late.

I wouldn't have a problem with letting Dave Moore hold the reins in the short term. He is a great man and knows football and players inside out, except to say.....just what might Dave Moore realistically be expected to achieve in the newly open transfer window? In all seriousness, and due respect to the man.

I'm undecided about keeping or sacking Slade. I can see the reasons for both, and I'm probably leaning towards the latter after listening to his post match and other recent interviews, and using my eyes to behold the pathetic recent performances/tactics, but if the window is crucial, as most seem to agree, then we have to persist until that's done really. Surely. If business is poor and results and performances continue in the current pattern by Feb, then I'd say he'd have very little, if any support left. Decision makes itself then. We must win the next home game, and we need more than one better player than we've got, immediately, if not sooner.

You may be right, it's an unsettling experience currently for anyone who's not of the immediate 'sack him tonight' persuasion. Dave Moore as a steady guiding hand would be ideal for me, though I doubt he'd even consider taking the reigns fully and negotiate through a transfer heavy January.
I'd settle for the knowledge that Slade is gone at the end of the season unless he somehow turns this team into at least a top 8 contender. If not then getting rid, of course, is dictated by his contract length....

Nobody could reasonably expect Dave Moore to have the knowledge and contacts to find two or three quality players in the window. That's not his area of expertise. It's not what he does. It'd be barmy  and grossly unfair to expect that of him. He can motivate, organise and set up a team, for sure. Anyone else at the club that could manage us through a good window...?

No there isn't is there.

We could start a 'how about Mooro and Buckley combo?' thread I suppose ::)

In all honesty though, yeah, we are out of options other than plodding on.

Quoted from chaos33

Nobody could reasonably expect Dave Moore to have the knowledge and contacts to find two or three quality players in the window. That's not his area of expertise. It's not what he does. It'd be barmy  and grossly unfair to expect that of him. He can motivate, organise and set up a team, for sure. Anyone else at the club that could manage us through a good window...?

No there isn't is there.

I think you would be surprised at the contacts DM has.

I don't doubt he has excellent contacts and relationships - he's a fine man, but is he constantly tracking players, talking to managers and agents, checking the development of lots of players, talking to scouts? Why would he need to do that, when he's the Physio?

If you're saying he could manage us and bring in quality signings, then I bow to your superior knowledge and would press for his immediate instalment as manager.

Quoted from chaos33

I don't doubt he has excellent contacts and relationships - he's a fine man, but is he constantly tracking players, talking to managers and agents, checking the development of lots of players, talking to scouts? Why would he need to do that, when he's the Physio?

If you're saying he could manage us and bring in quality signings, then I bow to your superior knowledge and would press for his immediate instalment as manager.

Is this what Russell Slade was doing when he signed the likes of Hooper, Woolford, Dixon, Kelly?

I don't know mate (I don't rate those 4 either), but that's what managers do. It's not what physios do. Get real.

Quoted from chaos33

I don't know mate (I don't rate those 4 either), but that's what managers do. It's not what physios do. Get real.

Yet you are suggesting RS continues to sign some more players, not sure if I should be the one getting real.

Do we need some better players? Is it January? How long does it take to appoint a new manager without rushing? If you are saying that Dave Moore can unequivocally sign quality players and wants to manage us, then I'm with you. If not....yet more simplification from you. Just get rid. Get rid of Fenty too. No thought to the consequences, because that's how decision making works isn't it.

Quoted from chaos33

Do we need some better players? Is it January? How long does it take to appoint a new manager without rushing? If you are saying that Dave Moore can unequivocally sign quality players and wants to manage us, then I'm with you. If not....yet more simplification from you. Just get rid. Get rid of Fenty too. No thought to the consequences, because that's how decision making works isn't it.

May I suggest Specsavers or just ask nurse if you can have a tablet, read my posts, where have I suggested Dave Moore should take over?

Oh right. Any ideas on what should happen next then?

Quoted from chaos33

Oh right. Any ideas on what should happen next then?

We could ask my granny if she would take over, I appreciate she has been dead for 20 years but she still could likely do a better job of managing the team than RS is doing at the moment.

So no then.

You're turn to reply to chaos33....... arryarryarry  :)

Seem to remember that DM said in the past that he is not interested in managing , will alwase help out but that is it

Quoted from chaos33

So no then.

Well for a start I would recall Osborne, Asante and Bolarinwa and give them a start or use as subs, they cannot do any worse that most of that shower today.

If I was JF and I wasn't going to sack him I would seriously question any signing that RS wants to bring in and hopefully ask some of his contacts what they think because it is clear no due diligence was done on some of the signings RS has made so far.

If JF is thinking of sacking him I am sure he should have someone in mind already as my contact mentioned to me earlier this season he was a couple of games away from the sack he then went on to win 3.

I would also add that I have not advocated that DM be given the job but I would not have any issues if he was asked to be caretaker, I also cannot remember if I have suggested Slade be sacked I just think he is a excrement manager and wouldn't have appointed him in the first place and wouldn't trust him with your money let alone the club's.  

Easy to understand the sentiment in a lot of that, but if we deal with the reality of having Slade and contemplating what to do next - you would recall Osborne, (suspended) and Asante and Bolarinwa - neither of whom can get in their respective conference starting elevens, and one of whom has made practically no impression at all during his loan to the level below, and that's it?

You don't want to commit to sacking Slade, and, by your argument, he shouldn't be given money to spend in the window because he's squandered enough already. If he were to be sacked in your scenario, you wouldn't mind Dave Moore to be caretaker, but you're not advocating him, and you know that he has contacts sufficient to get good players in the window. I'm sure I've seen you type 'just get rid' somewhere, and we've probably all felt like that in the spur of the moment, but we have surely got to be pragmatic and do what's best on balance? It's really not easy, and as I said, I think we are in something of a deadlock at present. Surely we take stock in February?

Quoted from chaos33

Easy to understand the sentiment in a lot of that, but if we deal with the reality of having Slade and contemplating what to do next - you would recall Osborne, (suspended) and Asante and Bolarinwa - neither of whom can get in their respective conference starting elevens, and one of whom has made practically no impression at all during his loan to the level below, and that's it?

You don't want to commit to sacking Slade, and, by your argument, he shouldn't be given money to spend in the window because he's squandered enough already. If he were to be sacked in your scenario, you wouldn't mind Dave Moore to be caretaker, but you're not advocating him, and you know that he has contacts sufficient to get good players in the window. I'm sure I've seen you type 'just get rid' somewhere, and we've probably all felt like that in the spur of the moment, but we have surely got to be pragmatic and do what's best on balance? It's really not easy, and as I said, I think we are in something of a deadlock at present. Surely we take stock in February?

Or as soon as we have 50 points

Quoted from chaos33

Easy to understand the sentiment in a lot of that, but if we deal with the reality of having Slade and contemplating what to do next - you would recall Osborne, (suspended) and Asante and Bolarinwa - neither of whom can get in their respective conference starting elevens, and one of whom has made practically no impression at all during his loan to the level below, and that's it?

You don't want to commit to sacking Slade, and, by your argument, he shouldn't be given money to spend in the window because he's squandered enough already. If he were to be sacked in your scenario, you wouldn't mind Dave Moore to be caretaker, but you're not advocating him, and you know that he has contacts sufficient to get good players in the window. I'm sure I've seen you type 'just get rid' somewhere, and we've probably all felt like that in the spur of the moment, but we have surely got to be pragmatic and do what's best on balance? It's really not easy, and as I said, I think we are in something of a deadlock at present. Surely we take stock in February?

I apologise you are completely correct, let's continue with the likes of Hooper, Woolford, Dixon (who went missing at the far post yet again for Crewe's first goal) and Kelly as Slade has made a wonderful job in giving at least three of them 2 year contracts and they are world beaters compared to those that we have out on loan.

Come on JF give Slade a few million to add more superstars.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I apologise you are completely correct, let's continue with the likes of Hooper, Woolford, Dixon (who went missing at the far post yet again for Crewe's first goal) and Kelly as Slade has made a wonderful job in giving at least three of them 2 year contracts and they are world beaters compared to those that we have out on loan.

Come on JF give Slade a few million to add more superstars.

Much as I would gladly tear up the contracts of the four you name, I would equally gladly tear up the contracts of the three you want back.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Much as I would gladly tear up the contracts of the four you name, I would equally gladly tear up the contracts of the three you want back.

They probably are no better but it would be nice to at least see them given a go.

Bolarinwa always looked to me as one of those players that could look a world beater one game and crap the next and may not be good enough for League 2 but I compare him to Woolford who just looks crap every game.

Although I've got less enthusiasm for town than at any point in 25 years I wouldn't sack Slade right now. He's got us into this mess with some really poor signings so it's up to him to get us out of it. I wouldn't trust him with any more money so it's down to him to see if he can free up space on the wage bill to bring players in. If things continue like they are then I would get rid when we get to 50 points to let someone else assess the squad before the summer.

Quoted from arryarryarry

They probably are no better but it would be nice to at least see them given a go.

Bolarinwa always looked to me as one of those players that could look a world beater one game and crap the next and may not be good enough for League 2 but I compare him to Woolford who just looks crap every game.

Tom has had enough chances - I guess he was signed as a 'rough diamond' but three managers have tried to polish him without success. Asante is clearly non-league standard and Osborne doesn't appear to want to be here so the sooner they go the better.

Quoted from Vance Warner

Although I've got less enthusiasm for town than at any point in 25 years I wouldn't sack Slade right now. He's got us into this mess with some really poor signings so it's up to him to get us out of it. I wouldn't trust him with any more money so it's down to him to see if he can free up space on the wage bill to bring players in. If things continue like they are then I would get rid when we get to 50 points to let someone else assess the squad before the summer.

I think I agree with this

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Tom has had enough chances - I guess he was signed as a 'rough diamond' but three managers have tried to polish him without success. Asante is clearly non-league standard and Osborne doesn't appear to want to be here so the sooner they go the better.

So we get rid of those out on loan, we also get rid of those we agree are crap that are on 2 year contracts although a contract expert on here suggests that that isn't possible and we are left with?

Quoted from arryarryarry

So we get rid of those out on loan, we also get rid of those we agree are crap that are on 2 year contracts although a contract expert on here suggests that that isn't possible and we are left with?

Berrett.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Berrett.

This is no time for jokes.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Berrett.

You had me worried there for a while ;).

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Whatever happened to a good old style bollokin at half time?[/quote

...or an embarrassing 15 minutes on the pitch !