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Posted by: Gaffer58, December 30, 2017, 7:09pm
Genuine questions, we all know he was a school teacher, but what subject. To what level if any has he played the game. I assume he has a certain level of coaching badge, again to what level. Also can anyone who pays the fee take the badges. When he has been at a club for more than a season where did that club finish, e.g. Apart from us way back has he taken any other club to a playoff.
Posted by: Meza, December 30, 2017, 7:12pm; Reply: 1
To be a boring sod it has to be geography lol
Posted by: gtfcmd, December 30, 2017, 7:17pm; Reply: 2
slade started out as a PE teacher at Frank Wheldon School after studying Sport at Edge Hill University.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, December 30, 2017, 7:25pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from gtfcmd
slade started out as a PE teacher at Frank Wheldon School after studying Sport at Edge Hill University.


Slade used to teach Darren Fletcher who works on BT & 5 Live, Fletcher has gone on record a few times on the radio that he thought Slade was an excellent teacher.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, December 30, 2017, 7:28pm; Reply: 4
A PGCE does not make a good coach, UEFA badges do that and even then you’ve got to have a personality to make it happen.
Posted by: LH, December 30, 2017, 7:31pm; Reply: 5
If you’ve got a GCSE in French does that mean you can speak French fluently?
Posted by: HertsGTFC, December 30, 2017, 7:36pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
A PGCE does not make a good coach, UEFA badges do that and even then you’ve got to have a personality to make it happen.


There are some really sh1t coaches with A licences as well. ..... your right it’s the person that makes a difference in the end.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, December 30, 2017, 7:36pm; Reply: 7
I believe Slade was on the books of Notts County and played centre half. He played a few reserve games for them I believe.
Posted by: Henryscat, December 30, 2017, 7:37pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from LH
If you’ve got a GCSE in French does that mean you can speak French fluently?


Oui j'ai une "B" et je suis parlez Francais formidable. Fromage pantalons
Posted by: friskneymariner, December 30, 2017, 7:52pm; Reply: 9
Think he got a distinction in saying 'Yes John'.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, December 30, 2017, 8:02pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from friskneymariner
Think he got a distinction in saying 'Yes John'.


Pity he didn't learn 'Here's my resignation John'
Posted by: Tommy, December 30, 2017, 8:14pm; Reply: 11
Don't think whether he played the game is that relevant. An increasing number of Coaches/Manager's are emerging and being successful who never played the game (or to any decent standard).
Posted by: Wrawby_Mariner, December 30, 2017, 8:24pm; Reply: 12
Just to even this out, the Cowley's were PE Teachers so I'm not sure why this thread is needed really... It wasn't so much of an issue in his last tenure.
Posted by: Gaffer58, December 30, 2017, 8:31pm; Reply: 13
Wrawby, it's now ten years since his last tenure, might have hoped he had learnt many new techniques and strategies plus a few successful seasons in that time.
Posted by: RichMariner, December 30, 2017, 8:38pm; Reply: 14
I have no problem with Slade's lack of playing experience.

When it comes down to it, all I care about is his ability to build a strong squad, get them playing good football and winning matches to get us in contention of promotion.

He's built a large squad, not a strong one; he's got us playing dull football and we're winning as many as we're losing (with a -6 goal difference).

He may need more time to improve - which, to be fair, we have - so maybe he can take us forward next season. But I'm not particularly happy just to see us meander into a 14th place finish this season. If we're going to end up mid-table I'd at least like him to adapt his philosophy and get the team playing more fluent, attacking football to win the fans back.
Posted by: Wrawby_Mariner, December 30, 2017, 8:40pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Gaffer58
Wrawby, it's now ten years since his last tenure, might have hoped he had learnt many new techniques and strategies plus a few successful seasons in that time.


I would hope so too, having gone on to manage in the Championship. The man can only operate within budget, and It's fair to say some players haven't been up to it... We have a massive squad... Lets hope we can offload deadwood before bringing in some better players.
Posted by: GrimRob, December 30, 2017, 9:30pm; Reply: 16
Every dog has his day. Slade peaked a few years ago sadly. He will get found out when it comes to season ticket sales in the summer, should he still remain here.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, December 30, 2017, 9:37pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from GrimRob
Every dog has his day. Slade peaked a few years ago sadly. He will get found out when it comes to season ticket sales in the summer, should he still remain here.


I would really like to renew my ST next season - the only way it will happen is with a progressive manager and a progressive budget.
Posted by: Bigdog, December 30, 2017, 9:54pm; Reply: 18
Slade's qualifications?

He got the job because he was the last manager standing in JF's address book..
Posted by: ginnywings, December 30, 2017, 10:01pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from GrimRob
Every dog has his day. Slade peaked a few years ago sadly. He will get found out when it comes to season ticket sales in the summer, should he still remain here.


Exactly this. Worked his way up to the Championship, failed, and is working his way back towards non league. If he had done the biz in the higher divisions, no way would he be managing a mid table League 2 side now.
Posted by: golfer, December 30, 2017, 10:02pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from LH
If you’ve got a GCSE in French does that mean you can speak French fluently?


I've got a GCE--A level in Bull Shite but it doesn't make me a farmer. [maybe a football manager]
Posted by: Marinerz93, December 30, 2017, 10:43pm; Reply: 21
Qualifications or experience, I'm working with people who have neither in my industry that make decisions and lead teams, all poor in their roles and unremovable unless it's promotion. There is however one manager who worked on the tools, made technical specialist, then team leader and next year becomes Field Manager, he is very good at his job, and understands issues when they are explained to him, the others wing it. I guess what I am saying is that Sladeball is winging it, his type of game needs strong and fast players who has he brought in that fits that picture. Ultimately Sladeball will have us mid table bang average and Fenty won't mind until we are a new stadium.
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, December 30, 2017, 11:13pm; Reply: 22
Bang on Marinerz93 percentages/text book approach will get you so far but he's obviously lacking that key ingredient.

The table as with careers don't always tell the whole story early on ,  but as our season unfolds, just as Slade career has over 20 years it's clear that both are a story of just making up the numbers and achieving absolutely nothing.
Posted by: barrattstandman, December 30, 2017, 11:31pm; Reply: 23
I would imagine there are far more managers who have never won anything than have. Pointless subject
Posted by: Marinerz93, December 30, 2017, 11:35pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner
Bang on Marinerz93 percentages/text book approach will get you so far but he's obviously lacking that key ingredient.

The table as with careers don't always tell the whole story early on ,  but as our season unfolds, just as Slade career has over 20 years it's clear that both are a story of just making up the numbers and achieving absolutely nothing.


He is being led by a boardroom that has achieved absolutely nothing but abject failure. Where is the inspiration, drive and determination?
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, December 30, 2017, 11:39pm; Reply: 25
True honours don't always tell the whole story Newell got two clubs promoted and Nicky Law has done it at three clubs, does that make Slades career look better or worse in perspective.
Posted by: wigworld, December 30, 2017, 11:46pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from golfer


I've got a GCE--A level in Bull Shite but it doesn't make me a farmer. [maybe a football manager]


Mathew Humberstone?

Posted by: arryarryarry, December 31, 2017, 12:13am; Reply: 27
Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner


I would hope so too, having gone on to manage in the Championship. The man can only operate within budget, and It's fair to say some players haven't been up to it... We have a massive squad... Lets hope we can offload deadwood before bringing in some better players.


Problem is some of that deadwood are on two year contracts, you only have to look at what a complete waste of a wage McAllister has been and he is still here.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, December 31, 2017, 1:16am; Reply: 28
Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner
Just to even this out, the Cowley's were PE Teachers so I'm not sure why this thread is needed really... It wasn't so much of an issue in his last tenure.


I agree that Slade being an ex-teacher is not an issue (though if he was a good teacher, then he should stand a better chance of being a good coach), but there was a lot of noise on here (or was it the Grim Outlook?) about him being an ex-teacher during his first tenure.
Posted by: promotion plaice, December 31, 2017, 1:27am; Reply: 29
Quoted from wigworld


Mathew Humberstone?



It was Beacon Hill that I attended when I failed my "11 plus" and then it became Mathew Humberstone  

Posted by: grimps, December 31, 2017, 2:43am; Reply: 30
What qualifications did Shankley , Clough or Bobby Robson have ?
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, December 31, 2017, 6:22am; Reply: 31
Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner


I would hope so too, having gone on to manage in the Championship. The man can only operate within budget, and It's fair to say some players haven't been up to it... We have a massive squad... Lets hope we can offload deadwood before bringing in some better players.


I am with you on this one Wrabs. Slade has been saddled with a massive squad he as to offload the surplus at some point it is unsettling to every team player.

I suspect Slade to be a hell of a busy man in January he knows he cannot bring anybody on board until he gets rid.

Posted by: chaos33, December 31, 2017, 6:40am; Reply: 32
Inane thread
Posted by: H19P1, December 31, 2017, 6:52am; Reply: 33
2018 Q1 - Reduce squad, buy quality not quantity and consolidate league 2 status.

2018 Q3 - Repeat but improve on league position with added quality but reduced squad.

2019 - Repeat

2020 - Repeat play offs

3/5 year plan must look something like this. Would be nice for the club to release their 3/5 year plan then this way it might give the fans some reality to our realistic season targets rather than false hopes.

Maybe our liason officer could provide for us and might steady the ship.

We all want promotion but realistic chances are slim after just being back into the league.

Fingers crossed for squad refresh in January, UTM

Hope you all have a nice evening whatever your plans maybe 😊 🍾
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, December 31, 2017, 8:01am; Reply: 34
Quoted from H19P1
2018 Q1 - Reduce squad, buy quality not quantity and consolidate league 2 status.

2018 Q3 - Repeat but improve on league position with added quality but reduced squad.

2019 - Repeat

2020 - Repeat play offs

3/5 year plan must look something like this. Would be nice for the club to release their 3/5 year plan then this way it might give the fans some reality to our realistic season targets rather than false hopes.

Maybe our liason officer could provide for us and might steady the ship.

WE ALL WANT PROMOTION BUT REALISTIC CHANCES ARE SLIM AFTER JUST BEING BACK INTO THE LEAGUE.

Fingers crossed for squad refresh in January, UTM

Hope you all have a nice evening whatever your plans maybe 😊 🍾



Lincoln seems to be doing ok the reasons why are clear.

Fresh ideas, supportive board, stable foundations.
Posted by: golfer, December 31, 2017, 8:51am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Mrs Doyle



Lincoln seems to be doing ok the reasons why are clear.

Fresh ideas, supportive board, stable foundations.


Think you missed one out- "They don't have Slade as manager"
Posted by: HertsGTFC, December 31, 2017, 10:17am; Reply: 36
Quoted from Mrs Doyle



Lincoln seems to be doing ok the reasons why are clear.

Fresh ideas, supportive board, stable foundations.


And a stack of cash from a good cup run and their South African backers.

They have ideas and innovation from the top down we have apathy led by Fenty “The Minister of can’t do”.

Posted by: rancido, December 31, 2017, 10:56am; Reply: 37
Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner


I would hope so too, having gone on to manage in the Championship. The man can only operate within budget, and It's fair to say some players haven't been up to it... We have a massive squad... Lets hope we can offload deadwood before bringing in some better players.



But part of that is down to RS. He signed 11 players in the summer and half of those are not good enough. Woolford, , Kelly , JJ are all unnecessary signings and I'm sure he could have found a better left back than Dixon. RS is past his sell by date ( like Buckley Mk 3 was) and I don't think he will achieve anything with us. His tactics are non-existent , he has no Plan B ( and his Plan A is questionable) and there is a growing possibility that we may get sucked into a relegation battle if any of the bottom two show any improvement in form.
Posted by: rancido, December 31, 2017, 11:05am; Reply: 38
Quoted from barrattstandman
I would imagine there are far more managers who have never won anything than have. Pointless subject



True and Slade is one of them. If we want to remain a League 2 side then stick with him. But if we have ambitions to rise higher in the football pyramid then, on his past record, Slade is not the man to do it.
Posted by: Ipswin, December 31, 2017, 11:08am; Reply: 39
Quoted from grimps
What qualifications did Shankley , Clough or Bobby Robson have ?


The odd game as professionals at a higher level than as a sub for Scarboro Infants U7 reserves

Posted by: Quagmire, December 31, 2017, 11:19am; Reply: 40
Quoted from Mrs Doyle


I am with you on this one Wrabs. Slade has been saddled with a massive squad he as to offload the surplus at some point it is unsettling to every team player.



But Slade is the one who has built this massive squad!!!!!

He has signed / re-signed 17 players, of which, a significant number are not up to standard - Kelly, Dixon, Hooper, Woolford etc etc, with a number of these poor signings on 2 year deals!

He’s the one who is responsible for building such a large squad, I have zero faith whatsoever in him trimming the squad down and bringing better players in.

Slade Out

Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, December 31, 2017, 11:45am; Reply: 41
17+ the couple of young-uns, when he's handed out that many contracts in one transfer window he has to be held accountable for the squad.
Posted by: rancido, January 1, 2018, 3:54pm; Reply: 42
If Slade hadn't been here before and had taken another club to that play-off final ( and promptly walked out to another club ) would his supporters have been so keen on his appointment based on his previous record?
Posted by: MuddyWaters, January 1, 2018, 4:01pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from rancido
If Slade hadn't been here before and had taken another club to that play-off final ( and promptly walked out to another club ) would his supporters have been so keen on his appointment based on his previous record?


The club is run so badly, I think Guardiola would struggle.
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