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Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, July 19, 2017, 8:43am
Given that we have only played one preseason game against tough opposition so far, is it a good idea to play so many teams this far down the football pyramid?

Positives:

It allows us to try things out and not get slaughtered.
Winning breads confidence.
Winning creates momentum.

Negatives:

Do we really learn much playing teams of a completly different standard to what we are going to play.

Thoughts?
Posted by: Jarmo.Is.God, July 19, 2017, 8:53am; Reply: 1
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner
Given that we have only played one preseason game against tough opposition so far, is it a good idea to play so many teams this far down the football pyramid?

Negatives:

Do we really learn much playing teams of a completly different standard to what we are going to play.


Thoughts?


The first few games are about fitness.

This tour is about team bonding
Posted by: sam gy, July 19, 2017, 8:56am; Reply: 2
We have tougher games coming up
Posted by: golfer, July 19, 2017, 9:09am; Reply: 3
Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God


The first few games are about fitness.

This tour is about team bonding


Twenty Five players sharing 2 Travelodge rooms in Barnstaple :) Forest Green sharing 2 Eco barns on a carrot farm.
Posted by: Tommy, July 19, 2017, 9:27am; Reply: 4
You are aware pre-season isn't over yet?

We've got two League One teams still to come.
Posted by: gary_elton, July 19, 2017, 10:51am; Reply: 5
Did you use your loaf to realise that winning breads confidence  ??   ;)
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, July 19, 2017, 12:24pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from gary_elton
Did you use your loaf to realise that winning breads confidence  ??   ;)


Dough! I'm on a roll now!
Posted by: moosey_club, July 19, 2017, 12:28pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner
Given that we have only played one preseason game against tough opposition so far, is it a good idea to play so many teams this far down the football pyramid?

Positives:

It allows us to try things out and not get slaughtered.
Winning breads confidence.
Winning creates momentum.

Negatives:

Do we really learn much playing teams of a completly different standard to what we are going to play.

Thoughts?


I think we should play Premier League first teams, get slaughtered, find absolutely nothing out about how players might perform against teams of their own level and start the season without having registered a shot on target in the whole of pre season.

However in reality...the lower league team games are largely for fitness but also you start to learn what your team mates traits are, in games when you are slipping 10+ goals past the opposition do players; remain focussed, keep a disciplined shape, remain determined to win the ball, keep a clean sheet, switch off  and also how is the communication between players. All useful information to the gaffer.
The team can start to see how a team mate turns, passes, favoured movement etc, those things are more apparent when you have an easier game all good foundations for team cohesion.

Once you start to master the above a gradual step up in oppostion will start to show how good a player actually is at the team stuff, work rate, discipline, application,shape etc.

All structured i am sure to give the management a decent idea of who can do what in any game situation prior to kick off.
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, July 19, 2017, 12:34pm; Reply: 8
Surely there's a happy medium though, we've  not played and Conference/North/South sides would they not have been an ideal level for tune ups?
Posted by: Garth, July 19, 2017, 12:35pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from gary_elton
Did you use your loaf to realise that winning breads confidence  ??   ;)


Crusty man!
Posted by: moosey_club, July 19, 2017, 1:29pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Swansea_Mariner
Surely there's a happy medium though, we've  not played and Conference/North/South sides would they not have been an ideal level for tune ups?


We have played a Championship side by choice, we have entered the Lincs Cup so have to play whoever we are drawn against ( not our fault Scunny sent a youth team) , Clee Town and GY Boro are now traditional, so really not that many free dates left, plus we have Blackburn and Wigan to come...(Wigan potentially a spin off of the Bogle deal ?).
So its not as though we have freely  "chosen" that many of our games in reality.  Barnsley, Blackburn and the two games on tour in Devon are about as free willed as Slade could get i imagine.
Posted by: Les Brechin, July 19, 2017, 2:35pm; Reply: 11
Pretty decent mix of friendlies I'd say. A lot of lower league teams but also Barnsley, Blackburn and Wigan too. As Moosey says, you don't want to be getting hammered every pre-season friendly and wins, no matter who it's against, will breed team confidence.
Posted by: Abdul19, July 19, 2017, 2:39pm; Reply: 12
Also, it's nigh on impossible to play Premier League clubs because they're all on tour on Mars or somewhere.
Posted by: Swansea_Mariner, July 19, 2017, 3:58pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Abdul19
Also, it's nigh on impossible to play Premier League clubs because they're all on tour on Mars or somewhere.


I'm sure all off to Malaysia or the US of A.

Why Devon though, why not go somewhere there are a couple of Conference sides and give the players something closer to our standard to deal with. The bonding bit can be done anywhere there is a travel lodge 😉
Posted by: ginnywings, July 19, 2017, 4:13pm; Reply: 14
I think part of the attraction of Devon is the road trip aspect and being about as far away from home as you can get without going abroad. It's as much about bonding as playing footy, though whether it has any long term benefit, i don't know.
Posted by: Maringer, July 19, 2017, 4:17pm; Reply: 15
There seems to be loads of clubs heading out to Austria this summer across the various divisions. Seems a relatively unusual choice of destination. I wonder if they've done some sort of a marketing scheme to try and attract clubs out there?

Perhaps Cleethorpes should do the same next year!
Posted by: Southwark Mariner, July 19, 2017, 4:34pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Maringer
There seems to be loads of clubs heading out to Austria this summer across the various divisions. Seems a relatively unusual choice of destination. I wonder if they've done some sort of a marketing scheme to try and attract clubs out there?

Perhaps Cleethorpes should do the same next year!


A quick google (last year but probably the same reasons): http://www.squawka.com/news/why-are-so-many-premier-league-clubs-spending-pre-season-in-austria/728880#35YyDxdychgPm8kt.97

Posted by: crusty ole pie, July 19, 2017, 5:08pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Garth


Crusty man!


You called ?
Posted by: Abdul19, July 19, 2017, 5:32pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Maringer
There seems to be loads of clubs heading out to Austria this summer across the various divisions. Seems a relatively unusual choice of destination. I wonder if they've done some sort of a marketing scheme to try and attract clubs out there?

Perhaps Cleethorpes should do the same next year!


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