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Quoted from fleabag1970

Judge Not Lest Thee be Judged ..................................................... Still been a Fantastic player for us ............... is it too hard for some of the posters to look on the positive side

Well people questioning why we let this happen, it's because he disrespected his house he was staying at and Also GTFC

Quoted from fleabag1970

is it too hard for some of the posters to look on the positive side

Yes

It's the fishy

:P

Got over his problems quick enough to sign for someone else.

All pre planned I'm afraid so boll ocks to him

Terrible attitude, should of just seen the season out.

Quoted from fleabag1970

Judge Not Lest Thee be Judged ..................................................... Still been a Fantastic player for us ............... is it too hard for some of the posters to look on the positive side

And the positive side is ?

Good luck to the lad hope his driving improves !

Quoted from the driver

Good luck to the lad hope his driving improves !

And his poker skills. Heard he was rubbish at dealing

Woking away should be interesting when he has Ollie /Jolley/Jack/Shop bearing down on him.... :)

Can't say I'm in any way concerned about Aswad lining up against us.

As said many, many times. He's either excellent or atrocious, biggest problem is that the latter occurrences outweigh the former quite significantly.

Don't care what went on outside football. If there are some serious issues for the lad, I hope he gets the right help and puts himself on the straight and narrow.

End of.

Got to say a really cowardly way to end your contract but best to get rid. No good having a desperately unhappy presence around the place upsetting the lads with ambition. At least the club should demand he does not play against us including a playoff at Wembley IF we bth get there. Lets hope we can use it as a possessive and spur us on to go up. His last few games showed to me he wanted away.

Aslong as he's sorted his problems out and it hasn't left Grimsby in the excrement i couldn't care less. Less wages we're paying for someone who hasn't played since we've 'turned a corner'
UTM

I liked Aswad, thought he was a good player at this level, but at the same time I'm not bothered he's moved on, sounds like he was homesick and wanted a move south.

We've ended up signing an experienced replacement with Championship, League One, and League 2 experience.

I think everyone is happy all round?

What a c.unt he's made of posters on here who fell for his mental breakdown , depression etc problems. . What a girl private way of engineering a move . He should be embarrassed and ashamed of himself . Only positive is we're better rid of someone who can only create problems within the club . I can't wait for Woking away now . The left back spot on that little side terrace is mine .

Quoted from davmariner

Can't understand why we'd let one of our players go to a playoff rival. If he doesn't want to play, fine him and keep hold of his registration.

Sadly, that means paying him too.

If s player is that unhappy, you're better off getting him away from the rest of the squad.

Good riddance IMO! Poor defender with a complete lack of positional sense and defensive ability!

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

What a c.unt he's made of posters on here who fell for his mental breakdown , depression etc problems. . What a girl private way of engineering a move . He should be embarrassed and ashamed of himself . Only positive is we're better rid of someone who can only create problems within the club . I can't wait for Woking away now . The left back spot on that little side terrace is mine .

Well said!

No, not true surely. He's coming back next week, next month, next season. Believe me, he was not a model pro and he's best off where he is.

Stress? Couldn't handle playing for a big club more like.

Also to the guy who gave me a - rep and said " i know him personally and none of you know the truth" Well bollox to you because some of us did know what was happening and guess what, he aint your mate. Doubt you'll ever see or hear from him again. Now you will have to latch onto another Town player and pretend he's your friend.

Cracking player on his day though. Good luck Aswad and pay yer rent. ;)

whilst im not saying he was a bad defender, his attitude on the pitch was appalling, and his stupid errors was costly (Alfreton away last season)

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

What a c.unt he's made of posters on here who fell for his mental breakdown , depression etc problems. . What a girl private way of engineering a move . He should be embarrassed and ashamed of himself . Only positive is we're better rid of someone who can only create problems within the club . I can't wait for Woking away now . The left back spot on that little side terrace is mine .

This , including the positive .

I think DHM has pretty much nailed it. Excellent on his day, atrocious (all too often), when it isn't.

Hopefully, Robertson will prove a capable replacement for the rest of the season but it is disappointing Thomas has gone to a promotion rival.

The pessimist in me expects him to score against us in the play-offs! :(

This young player could really have had a very successful footballing career, but it seems his off field life has not been very professional. What a waste, I doubt he will get back to higher levels now, he fear he will live to regret what has happened to him.

It was all a con imo.. i live with people with problems and the dont get over things because they move, , He should have been made to stay on the sick untill his contract expired for trying to con everyone imo

Quoted from fleabag1970

He owes GTFC nothing . Been a great player for us ..........

Great! really my friend you are to loose with the word Great, good and very good at times but also costs us goals when defending mattered, don`t put him alongside the true great defenders, Macca, Futcher, and many more at least two playing in todays team.

IMO he was homesick and got tapped up by Woking, the stress part might be true but, he has certainly made a complete recovery ;)
We now have a better defender in Roberson, without the flare and mistakes of Asward

Don't know how it came about, but the word "stress" got used, probably by the club in their statement and if so, you can't blame them for anything as they had to manage a tricky situation without going into too much detail and let it blow over.

Typically, the word stress then got extrapolated by the forum into depression and mental illness. He's better off at somewhere like Woking, where he can carry on his ridiculous notion of being "the best left back outside of the football league". Well Azza, you're not.

You end up in the Conference either because you have not much skill but are a team player with great attitude, or you have talent but can't handle the other parts of the game. Aswad falls into that latter category and playing in front of a thousand fans will suit him. He'll probably be really good against us as he was before we signed him. :-/

I don't think he'll be much good against us personally. He's always had a questionable temperament and I'm sure there will be a fair few Town fans with an axe to grind that day.

Quoted from Gtfc_aldred_1988

Myself and I'm the daddy said this all along, that he wouldn't be back because of what he did to that house/flat and spitting into an officers face, good riddence to the thug I say!!!! And it's all true as I have seen the footage of this, so is im the daddy going to get reinstated back on to the fishy grimrob???? As we was telling the truth about this idiot of a player, rather him never wear a Grimsby shirt ever again!!!!

It was typing unsubstantiated claims that was the problem. You can't do that even if you know them to be true. Rob can and has gotten into trouble over it in the past and i don't blame him for protecting himself.

Aswad was a good player for us, not a great player.
My positive memory of him will be him setting up the winner at home to Wrexham a couple of years ago with a teasing cross after a knock-and-go around the defender.

Not as comfortable and composed with the ball as I'd like for a full back, too happy to sling it aimlessly down the channel when under any pressure.

And yeah you get the impression the whole stress thing and personal issues has been a big cover up because he wants to go back down south. Hope we didn't pay him off.

Quoted from denni266

It was all a con imo.. i live with people with problems and the dont get over things because they move, , He should have been made to stay on the sick untill his contract expired for trying to con everyone imo

No way he's a bad apple and a expensive bad apple to boot, best get him away from GTFC altogether we have fresh faces ready to battle for the title. Forget Thomas he wasn't that good anyway never liked defending because couldn't be arsed half the time.

Good Riddance!!

The stress of constantly being on the top floor of Gypsy Tears must've gotten to him in the end :(.

Can we not all be cnuts to Aswad and about this situation please?

I live with stress /depression its not nice and I too have had the sort of negative comments posted on this thread, about "not being able to handle" things and acused of taking "tactical" sickness when I couldn't go to work because of it.

If he is suffering - (and none of us know for certain if he is or isn't but as decent people we should be able to give him the benifit of the doubt surely?) then its not something that can be fixed overnight, he's probably going to have this issue on and off for the rest of his life (I know I am) and a move could help him. Being closer to a circle of friends/family and comfortable surroundings will help no-end.

The move back to Woking will help him as a person.

As for his position in the team ... well, it was clear that whatever was going on was affecting his form and his confidence. It probably wasn't going to get any better.

This move is the best for both player and club. The player gets a new start somewhere he is happy and can hopefully work to dealing with his issues.
The club has an unhappy and off form player off the books.

We should move on - concentrate on what our club is doing in the run in, not an ex player.

Can't help but get the impression the club wasn't that bothered about keeping him anyway, a good excuse to find an improvement in that position at a crucial time in the season.

Town soon moved to get a replacement. :P

Too many judgemental fornicators on here. Stop speculating for felicitations sake.

It might be that he's taking the urine. But you know, it also might be that there are serious underlying mental health issues, or personal problems that he needs to deal with. In which case, there are some things more inmportant than football or GTFC: in this case the well-being of someone.

If you all have never had major personal problems or mental wellbeing issues, good for you. Even if you have, and you happen to have the tools (be that support, family, self-preservation techniques etc.) to deal with it, great - but not everyone does.

We don't know what happened. Even if some of the things said on here are true, people are not robots. We react in al sorts of illogical manners and sometimes rational thinking goes completely out the window. It's down to the individual to learn from these sorts of things, and support should definitely be available (it's the ones with noone that I really feel for), but there's no call for people being judgemental about things.

Question - prior to allowing him to cancel his contract with us, isn't there any way of a legal release clause (like a loan clause) being made that he cannot play against us for a Conference rival like Woking if he signed now?

I think the best thing to have done is loan Thomas to Woking until the end of the season,

Then he could not have played against us,

You watch , he will play a blinder against us now.

If he does suffer from depression,

This move might be the best thing he could have done.

Quoted from MarinerWY

Too many judgemental fornicators on here. Stop speculating for felicitations sake.

It might be that he's taking the urine. But you know, it also might be that there are serious underlying mental health issues, or personal problems that he needs to deal with. In which case, there are some things more inmportant than football or GTFC: in this case the well-being of someone.

If you all have never had major personal problems or mental wellbeing issues, good for you. Even if you have, and you happen to have the tools (be that support, family, self-preservation techniques etc.) to deal with it, great - but not everyone does.

We don't know what happened. Even if some of the things said on here are true, people are not robots. We react in al sorts of illogical manners and sometimes rational thinking goes completely out the window. It's down to the individual to learn from these sorts of things, and support should definitely be available (it's the ones with noone that I really feel for), but there's no call for people being judgemental about things.

A very sensible contribution.

Quoted from darren9

Can we not all be cnuts to Aswad and about this situation please?

I live with stress /depression its not nice and I too have had the sort of negative comments posted on this thread, about "not being able to handle" things and acused of taking "tactical" sickness when I couldn't go to work because of it.

If he is suffering - (and none of us know for certain if he is or isn't but as decent people we should be able to give him the benifit of the doubt surely?) then its not something that can be fixed overnight, he's probably going to have this issue on and off for the rest of his life (I know I am) and a move could help him. Being closer to a circle of friends/family and comfortable surroundings will help no-end.

The move back to Woking will help him as a person.

As for his position in the team ... well, it was clear that whatever was going on was affecting his form and his confidence. It probably wasn't going to get any better.

This move is the best for both player and club. The player gets a new start somewhere he is happy and can hopefully work to dealing with his issues.
The club has an unhappy and off form player off the books.

We should move on - concentrate on what our club is doing in the run in, not an ex player.

Great post. Far too sensible for this forum.

If one of those characters off Skint was filmed turning up for work urine.ed , smashing up their flat then gobbing in the face of a copper when they got nicked there's no way any of u do godders would be saying " give the poor bloke a chance , he's got problems he needs support with " . It'd be "what a waster lock him up the scum !"

He has wanted to move down south for a while. Let's hope Magnay can deal with at Woking.

I'm not sure on the rules on this but surely if a person is signed off work for a month with stress or whatever then surely he is not able to 'work' in that period. If he trains/plays for Woking before this period has elapsed then at the very least Woking should be negligant for 'working' a person who is ill. Or am I completely wrong here?

Quoted from SamTheMariner

He has wanted to move down south for a while. Let's hope Magnay can deal with at Woking.

I wouldn't be too worried about Magnay dealing with Thomas, Magnay is a far superior player in my honest opinion.

Quoted from pizzzza

I'm not sure on the rules on this but surely if a person is signed off work for a month with stress or whatever then surely he is not able to 'work' in that period. If he trains/plays for Woking before this period has elapsed then at the very least Woking should be negligant for 'working' a person who is ill. Or am I completely wrong here?

Doctors fit notes are advisery and if all parties concerned think "working" in some form or another is beneficial to the rehabilitation of the employee then it is fine.

Louth_in_the_south 100percent correct mate, "give the guy a break" bull crap if that was me I would be labelled a thug/scum deserves all he gets!!! If I can get the footage of his actions sent to my phone I'll put it on Facebook for all to see aswell :)

Whether or not he was stressed etc reading this thread it really is no surprise that male mental health is a taboo subject is it?

Quoted from grimsby pete

I think the best thing to have done is loan Thomas to Woking until the end of the season,

Then he could not have played against us,

You watch , he will play a blinder against us now.

If he does suffer from depression,

This move might be the best thing he could have done.

This

If he wanted to move south for a while, then why did he exercise the option to stay another year?

did you ever see Thomas clapping the fans at the end of games with a smile on his face ? like Magnay, Disley, Pearson ect ect.

no, because he is arrogant and thought he was better than the club

Quoted from ginnywings

Don't know how it came about, but the word "stress" got used, probably by the club in their statement and if so, you can't blame them for anything as they had to manage a tricky situation without going into too much detail and let it blow over.

Typically, the word stress then got extrapolated by the forum into depression and mental illness. He's better off at somewhere like Woking, where he can carry on his ridiculous notion of being "the best left back outside of the football league". Well Azza, you're not.

You end up in the Conference either because you have not much skill but are a team player with great attitude, or you have talent but can't handle the other parts of the game. Aswad falls into that latter category and playing in front of a thousand fans will suit him. He'll probably be really good against us as he was before we signed him. :-/

There's no doubt he is a talented player, maybe even better than he showed at BP. But you don't end up at his age playing in the Conference unless something isn't right. He should be playing in the league but clearly league clubs don't rate him and he must now have a reputation in the game. I just feel sorry, sorry that he conned the club and worse, he conned the fans, many of whom supported him even when he started this charade.

I think we've seen why he's not playing League football during his time at the club. Defensively, he's not generally consistent enough and this is an area where you really can't get away with too many poor performances. In particular, he's very prone to giving away daft free-kicks in dangerous defensive positions.

His pace and strength are assets, as is his ability to put some good crosses in when pushing forward. However, his close control is pretty poor and he always looks very uncomfortable when in possession. I said after the Macclesfield game that I'd be happy enough to see him leave at the end of the season so I'm not surprised to see he's leaving the club, but the way it has occurred leaves a lot to be desired.

On his day, a very effective player, but not on his day enough for me.

I have to say, I'm not really bothered what may be going on in his private life. He's not our problem any longer, though he may be later in the season!

In several ways I'm pleased he's gone but can't help but think he'll come back to haunt us.

If he does not want to be here, it is better for both parties that he moves on. This is what has happened. We need to move forward.

Best thing he did was punch that lincoln player in front us in the Findus

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

did you ever see Thomas clapping the fans at the end of games with a smile on his face ? like Magnay, Disley, Pearson ect ect.

no, because he is arrogant and thought he was better than the club

Somebody said he was the best left back in the conference,

Now who was it (Confused)

Quoted from grimsby pete

Somebody said he was the best left back in the conference,

Now who was it (Confused)

He hasn't even been the bast left back at Town since Magnay came in.

I'm not that bothered that he's gone, at times he was a bit of a liability, he was ok when we were winning but as soon as things weren't going our way he seemed to panic & have no idea what to do with the ball.
But being allowed to just leave because he doesn't want to be here anymore, and then sign for one of our rivals seems completely wrong & makes a mockery of the contracts. What if Disley suddenly decided he fancied going to Bristol Rovers or LJL had had enough of all the stick he was getting and decided he fancied going to Barnet, could they get there agents to manufacture a reason to just walk away.
I just hope he doesn't end up playing a blinder against us & influencing the result.
Woking seem to be claiming he was out of favour with us! & he's ready to go straight in, lets hope he can do some damage at Barnet then on Saturday.

Good riddance, soon did recover from them mental issues.. I myself will be joining in when we go to Woking and giving him a uncomfortable reception. A cowardly way out of his contract.

Well if he is ready to play for them this week,( Wokings words not ours )

I am sure he will not be in the right frame of mind or match fit,

When did he last play or train ?

Quoted from MarinerWY

Too many judgemental fornicators on here. Stop speculating for felicitations sake.

It might be that he's taking the urine. But you know, it also might be that there are serious underlying mental health issues, or personal problems that he needs to deal with. In which case, there are some things more inmportant than football or GTFC: in this case the well-being of someone.

If you all have never had major personal problems or mental wellbeing issues, good for you. Even if you have, and you happen to have the tools (be that support, family, self-preservation techniques etc.) to deal with it, great - but not everyone does.

We don't know what happened. Even if some of the things said on here are true, people are not robots. We react in al sorts of illogical manners and sometimes rational thinking goes completely out the window. It's down to the individual to learn from these sorts of things, and support should definitely be available (it's the ones with noone that I really feel for), but there's no call for people being judgemental about things.

This. In neon lights

Quoted from darren9

Can we not all be cnuts to Aswad and about this situation please?

I live with stress /depression its not nice and I too have had the sort of negative comments posted on this thread, about "not being able to handle" things and acused of taking "tactical" sickness when I couldn't go to work because of it.

If he is suffering - (and none of us know for certain if he is or isn't but as decent people we should be able to give him the benifit of the doubt surely?) then its not something that can be fixed overnight, he's probably going to have this issue on and off for the rest of his life (I know I am) and a move could help him. Being closer to a circle of friends/family and comfortable surroundings will help no-end.

The move back to Woking will help him as a person.

As for his position in the team ... well, it was clear that whatever was going on was affecting his form and his confidence. It probably wasn't going to get any better.

This move is the best for both player and club. The player gets a new start somewhere he is happy and can hopefully work to dealing with his issues.
The club has an unhappy and off form player off the books.

We should move on - concentrate on what our club is doing in the run in, not an ex player.

Do you know him well enough to make those comments or are you just speculating.

Regards your comment about the doubters, if suddenly he is well enough to sign and be available for Woking what do you really expect.

If he was signed off for a month due to stress, does that mean he can't play until the month is up? ;)

^ see earlier in this thread :-)

Look i know the guy personally and if you did you would know that the truth comes out in the end. Pats on the back all round i say :D

The bottom line is he didn't want to play for us anymore for whatever reason. This could be genuine issues where he needed to be nearer home or could be something else. That's down to him we have all had jobs where we weren't settled for whatever reason and if that's the case you change it. Aswad is doing whats best for him and his only affiliation to Town is that we signed him and pay him. he isn't a supporter like us, its his very short career and I would do what was best for me. We all would. The truth is we have replaced him with a player that appears to want to be here. Aswad won't be a major factor to wether we beat them or lose to them. He was a decent player on his day but not a game changer. I wish him all the best and I hope the move is genuinely something which will be a positive thing in his life.

Quoted from AlanPoutonsTackle

The bottom line is he didn't want to play for us anymore for whatever reason. This could be genuine issues where he needed to be nearer home or could be something else. That's down to him we have all had jobs where we weren't settled for whatever reason and if that's the case you change it. Aswad is doing whats best for him and his only affiliation to Town is that we signed him and pay him. he isn't a supporter like us, its his very short career and I would do what was best for me. We all would. The truth is we have replaced him with a player that appears to want to be here. Aswad won't be a major factor to wether we beat them or lose to them. He was a decent player on his day but not a game changer. I wish him all the best and I hope the move is genuinely something which will be a positive thing in his life.

All that depends on whether he was suffering from stress as alleged or if it was all a con to manufacture a move away from BP.

If he suddenly appears for Woking this Saturday then that is a remarkable recovery from stress.

I have seen all the comments on here but as yet I don't know what is true and what isn't.

If he just wanted away all he had to do was say, I am sure we wouldn't have wanted to keep an unhappy player and if I remember correctly Paul Hurst's comments on MP a couple of weeks ago didn't appear to be that sympathetic towards AT.

Move on, bloke's a clown and messed us about. Debacle's over.

And to those who keep saying they know him; make a point or pipe down. Offer something insightful relating to the statement you made as opposed to generally saying 'oo look at me I know a conference footballer'.

Even drug-dealers and murderers have mate's doesn't make them alright. Same principle applies even though my example was to the extreme.

Can't see what the fuss is about really. If he wants to earn less and pay twice as much rent and play in front of a thousand people most of whom would rather watch Chelsea if they had the money, then what's the big deal?

Good luck to the bloke.
If he doesn't fit in at Town what's the point of having him hang about excrement happens.

Shame he has gone he could have 'shine, shine like a star'

To taunt him we could shout at hey Aswad, 'Don`t Turn Around'

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Does this mean Kaz is allowed back ;)

Quoted from Marinerz93

Shame he has gone he could have 'shine, shine like a star'

Does this mean Kaz is allowed back ;)

Her 3 year ban should be up now,

OR

Was she banned for longer ?

when did his contract get terminated.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Her 3 year ban should be up now,

OR

Was she banned for longer ?

Was August time 2012.

I remember a few years ago some mention of supporters who have served bans having to have a season ticket before they're allowed back. The club were making out there was a non-financial based reason for it at the time.

If this is the case I'd assume it'd be season after next - can't see the club bending over backwards to offer a part season ticket.

Not fussed
Not a great defender IMO - several instances spring to mind where he panicked, lost confidence and faded.
I like solid defenders at this level...and he wasn't that solid

Good luck at Woking but we can do better...and probably have with Robertson

Honestly, the only real memory i will keep from Aswad's time here is from the Huddersfield game.

Firstly, how the bloody hell did he not score that header, he hit it at the flipping keeper, anywhere else and that would have increased our lead ffs.
Secondly, is the own goal, for this i can't blame it on him.. just unlucky.

Aswad to score a hatrick on Saturday please.

When I first saw Aswad playing for Braintree against us I thought he was possibly the best left back I had seen at Conference level and remember saying that I wished he played for us, so I was delighted when we eventually signed him. Unfortunately consistency is the key to being a good player, and sadly this didn't apply to Aswad. On his day he could be excellent but on others he was prone to going walkabout or lacking concentration too often. Any personal problems the guy has and exactly what they are should remain a private matter, and while we all like a bit of gossip, it's not really our business. However, what goes against the grain for me is the way he was able to sign for one of our rivals while on absence of leave from his club for "personal reasons" Anyway, players come and go and Aswads gone, and luckily we look to have good replacements, and while I don't wish Thomas any ill will, I don't particularly wish him good luck.

Woking assistant manger said Aswad fell out of favour this season, the guy dosn't know much about football Aswad was injured for the early running games. And was straight in the team as soon as he was fit, The only issue with losing Aswad his is driving force from LB Position.

Quoted from acko338

Gone, move on !!

Exactly!

I know Aswad is getting a lot of flack for possibly being able to play this w/end but the source of his " stress " could have been the fact that he was away from his family and familiar surroundings ? Once he gets back into his " comfort zone " then the situation for him could be totally transformed. I had a job some years ago where , for a while , I had to work well outside my " comfort zone ". It got so bad that I came close to jacking it all in but that area of my duties was removed and the whole problem just went away literally overnight. You have to be in these sort of situations to really understand what it is like and not just snipe from the side lines.

I wish people would leave this stress angle alone. It was mentioned once and suddenly, he has mental health problems and we should all feel sorry for him. How does anyone know he has mental health issues or not? He couldn't handle playing for us and is better off at Woking, with less expectation.

All i will say is that as someone who suffers from depression myself and has had some seriously low times in my life, it's a struggle to get out of bed, never mind move home, signing for another team and playing football. FFS, if he was mentally ill, Woking wouldn't have signed him, never mind contemplating playing him next game. He wouldn't be capable.

We can talk all day about the club making him honour his contract and not letting him play for anyone else, but have any of you actually thought that maybe the club couldn't wait to get rid. A model pro he is not, even a wrong footed Magnay is far better, but i have no axe to grind and wish him all the best.

Quoted from rancido

I know Aswad is getting a lot of flack for possibly being able to play this w/end but the source of his " stress " could have been the fact that he was away from his family and familiar surroundings ? Once he gets back into his " comfort zone " then the situation for him could be totally transformed. I had a job some years ago where , for a while , I had to work well outside my " comfort zone ". It got so bad that I came close to jacking it all in but that area of my duties was removed and the whole problem just went away literally overnight. You have to be in these sort of situations to really understand what it is like and not just snipe from the side lines.

Thomas was out of contract at the end of the season,

It was him that took the option up oN his contract for a further year,

Not GTFC,

So he could have gone south last May.

Sorry to hear he's gone. He's been a part of the team for a while and thought whilst he was a little inconsistent, he did have some good games for us.

Good luck in your future endeavours, Aswad.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Thomas was out of contract at the end of the season,

It was him that took the option up oN his contract for a further year,

Not GTFC,

So he could have gone south last May.

Maybe so but being back home in the summer break could have made him feel more unsettled when he came back for pre-season training. I'm only playing devils advocate here but until we know all the facts then everything is just speculation and surely it is better to wait than condemn him off hand.

I'm just looking forward to Pearson and McKeown being to organise themselves and have a breather at breakdowns now. The poor illegitimates seemed to spend almost all their time screaming as Thomas for one reason or another.

Quoted from rancido

Maybe so but being back home in the summer break could have made him feel more unsettled when he came back for pre-season training. I'm only playing devils advocate here but until we know all the facts then everything is just speculation and surely it is better to wait than condemn him off hand.

I was not condemning him just stating a fact,

If he was home sick he could have gone home last May,

He chose to stay.

Isn't it the club who have the option of the extension? They get the option to either exercise the option or cancel it.

For example: A player signs a two year plus one year option deal. Effectively signing a three year contract but can be released after two should the club decide not to take the option. The player has already agreed to play for three years by signing the original contract.

Quoted from LH

Isn't it the club who have the option of the extension? They get the option to either exercise the option or cancel it.

For example: A player signs a two year plus one year option deal. Effectively signing a three year contract but can be released after two should the club decide not to take the option. The player has already agreed to play for three years by signing the original contract.

No its normally the other way round, If a player plays so many games it can trigger a option on his contract, Bignot had one I believe which explains why he is still here.

All I will say is a lot of teams attacked us down the Thomas flank obviously been watching video's and worked out this was a weak spot. Nuff said.

Don't mean to sound harsh or anything, but, he was a good left back. Not out of the world and not rubbish, just ok.

I just don't see why this thread is still going!! Tony Daws didn't get this amount of airtime

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I'm just looking forward to Pearson and McKeown being to organise themselves and have a breather at breakdowns now. The poor illegitimates seemed to spend almost all their time screaming as Thomas for one reason or another.

This is a very interesting statement: - exactly what I witnessed at Harrogate Town in pre-season at very close hand.

Here's a question, would he be entitled to a league winner's medal if we (when) win the league?
The best medicine for AT is us winning the league and him missing out on playing in the Football league and not getting a medal.

Hope Aswad doesn't get too down watching us getting promoted in the Wembley playoff final.... ;)

After we play at their place I want PH to come out and say something about that being 'the worse Woking left back he's ever seen'

That comment by Woking's Asst Manager on the BBC is a joke. "Suddenly found himself out of favour". My bottom!

Wonder what was causing the stress was he was under. Lots of people suffer from stress. Lots of people leave home for work.

I just feel Aswad has acted very badly and dishonourably towards the club. I know there's no loyalty in the game today but to ask for his contract to be cancelled is one thing, but when the club then gave him 5 weeks to sort out his life and he then not only managed to get his contract cancelled, but he then immediately signs for a rival club. I do of course realise I am not privvy to anything that happened behind the scenes, but the whole thing in my opinion stinks and Aswad should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. However, I don't suppose for one minute he is. Consequently I think we are well rid of him. Plus it appears that in Robertson we have an adequate (and some might say better) replacement. UTM.

The club gave him the time off to "progress a move away from the club".

"The club gave him the time off to "progress a move away from the club".

I was under the impression from everything I read that the club gave him time off to sort out his problems not sort out a new club. If that was the case surely the club would have cancelled his contract immediately and said goodbye. If the above was true it would mean that the club continued to pay him to sort out a new club and I can't believe they would do that.

Still it's all speculation and he's gone now which bearing in mind the acquisition of Robertson suggests that GTFC gave got the better deal. UTM.

He has gone let's concentrate on the players who want to play for Town. UTM

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"The club gave him the time off to "progress a move away from the club".

I was under the impression from everything I read that the club gave him time off to sort out his problems not sort out a new club. If that was the case surely the club would have cancelled his contract immediately and said goodbye. If the above was true it would mean that the club continued to pay him to sort out a new club and I can't believe they would do that.

Still it's all speculation and he's gone now which bearing in mind the acquisition of Robertson suggests that GTFC gave got the better deal. UTM.

The club just wanted rid with minimal fuss and upheaval to the team. The latest incident was not his first. I think he let the whole "best left back outside the football league" thing go to his head. Gangsta footballer ;D

Quoted from KingstonMariner

That comment by Woking's Asst Manager on the BBC is a joke. "Suddenly found himself out of favour". My bottom!

Wonder what was causing the stress was he was under. Lots of people suffer from stress. Lots of people leave home for work.

Quite but when their fans asked why he signed to the club, they weren't going to tell them he was run out of Town were they?

I totally agree with you. I just think he thought he was better than he a really was. Robertson seems to be a team player in a way Thomas was not. I was at Eastleigh and he was obviously happy to be part of the team, but also he could obviously play a bit too. That Paul Hurst is no fool!!!! UTM.

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The club just wanted rid with minimal fuss and upheaval to the team. The latest incident was not his first. I think he let the whole "best left back outside the football league" thing go to his head. Gangsta footballer ;D

I think that the whole squad now has team spirit, (even the currently not playing Scott Neilsen,) who I still feel will add to the quality at some point in the run in to the season end.

With the current additions up front, if he was on the pitch as an impact player against stonewall defenses, he has the ability to run with the ball and make spaces for others to score, or even his shots from distance past packed defenses may bring results.

Perhaps with much more freedom of movement up front now, (Jolley / Ollie,) his options for final passes will be better, instead of perhaps wanting to beat another man and losing the ball.

Quoted from ginnywings

The club just wanted rid with minimal fuss and upheaval to the team. The latest incident was not his first. I think he let the whole "best left back outside the football league" thing go to his head. Gangsta footballer ;D

I said in the original blocked thread it was best he left best for him and best for us, and other incidents have happened I'm surprised he's lasted this long tbh good riddance

At least Robertson can take a corner, apparently ;)

Although I said something along the lines of move on. I think it's poor that another club announces they've signed him before our club announces that we've released him!
A lot of other unhappy players will take a look at this approach to engineer a free move.

What's with all the "gangsta" or "thug" comments?

Probably a certain underlying issue for some posters, but that's none of my business...

There are certain players who have played for Town who are good at this level but not of the quality to win us the championship. Players like Niven, Manny Panther, Colbeck, Brad Wood and Aswad is just one of those I'm afraid.

I reckon he was on his way out in the Summer anyway and he knew this.

I think PH would have wanted to keep Aswad and would have offered him a new contract since he's been here he was the number one LB at the club, and was straight back in the team when not fit. So that shows you valuable PH thought Aswad was, i was i'm quite suprised he never stayed everyone said he wasn't happy here but he signed a new contract. To be fair to Sam Hatton he stayed for his 2nd year when he said he wanted to leave at the end of his first season so Aswad should have done the same.

At the moment that 5th place is up for grabs at the moment and Woking are one of the teams who are in the hunt, i suppose from there point of view Aswad can be a good player for them and can provide width for players like Rendell.

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This is a very interesting statement: - exactly what I witnessed at Harrogate Town in pre-season at very close hand.

I recorded this 'event' on this forum but you can now only access posts back to 23rd August 2014 - 'Harrogate game was before this' - someone marked me down this afternoon (would you normally bother?), which was the reason for searching.

Aswad Thomas isn't the first footballer to engineer a move away from his current club to one that's closer to home.

But the way it's been conducted - or at least the way it's been reported - has confused fans. When we're not privvy to the facts, we fill in the gaps. We guess, we presume and we speculate.

That's why it's always in the best interests of the club and player to be as clear as possible about what's actually happening. It stops the speculation before it's given chance to start.

I don't think the club or the player have been clear. So from a distance it looks a case of 'player got grumpy and claimed he was stressed so he could move to a rival team'.

That might not be the case at all. But without a bit of clarity from either the club or player, that's the story the fans will settle on.

Martin Butler and earlier Gorden Hobson come to mind as unprofessional departures who wanted out but shat on the club and their contracts.

Aswad Thomas - Grimsby loss or gain ( vote )

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/story.php?id=8502771

Quoted from ginnywings

Quite but when their fans asked why he signed to the club, they weren't going to tell them he was run out of Town were they?

They don't need to lie though do they.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

They don't need to lie though do they.

No, but did they lie? Falling out of favour can be interpreted in different ways.

Quoted from ginnywings

No, but did they lie? Falling out of favour can be interpreted in different ways.

I'm pretty sure Aswad fell out of favour, probably after he told PH he wanted to leave.

All we should be looking at now is how to stuff Woking, c/w him at left back making errors of judgement when defending.

Whatever he did to annoy people he was involved with will always come out on social media, and all of it has allegedly added up to him having to leave Grimsby itself not just the club.

If some or most was true, then not the type of player Town want on their books!

Hurst is reported in todays paper than the player didnt want to play for the club and therefore Hurst wasnt interested. Only wants players who want to be here!

"Sometimes you have to look in the mirror"

Regular reader infrequent poster here....

Saw Aswad in the Sugar Mill nightclub in Hull on Friday 16th Jan (last time I ever go there) - denied who he was first of all, probably didn't expect many Mariners to be there in all fairness. Had a chat with him for a few minutes asked if he would be playing against Barnet, said "Nah probably not, won't even get near the bench. Hurstys an effing c*nt, mate."

In his defence I've probably called my boss the same when I've had a skinful! Just thought it was an interesting attitude given the alleged personal issues.

Amusingly, his mate was going round telling people him and Aswad were pro footballers (he wasn't), more amusing still he was boasting about being a GTFC player. Thought it was a bit like saying "Yeah I'm an astronaut......with the Tahiti Space Agency"