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Posted by: denni266, January 31, 2015, 9:52pm
Piccys on the telegraph site now
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, January 31, 2015, 11:37pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from denni266
Piccys on the telegraph site now


Those pics look bad there - unplayable it is fair to say.

However, I wonder what the pitch looked like at 3pm, after 3 hours or so of better weather.

Surely it would have been better to call it off at 2pm if necessary - after all the Telford team were there by 12.30 or at least nearby, and their fans would also have already set off.

I am not blaming the club, because I think they took notice of the weather forecast, which not for the first time was incorrect. Not just for football reasons but the Met Office get right on my nerves with their inept forecasts.
Posted by: MarinerWY, February 1, 2015, 1:22am; Reply: 2
Not just for football reasons but the Met Office get right on my nerves with their inept forecasts.


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/who/accuracy/forecasts
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/in-depth/science-behind-probability-of-precipitation

Feel free to take up a degree and masters in maths or physics, followed by a doctorate in one of the specialised areas of meteorology, to try and improve our scientific understanding of weather patterns and our capacity to predict the weather and longer term climate.

Or you could go back to just not having any clue at all, and seeing what the weather is like when you leave the house. Probably be fine with the current UK based weather, not so handy for major disasters caused by extreme weather, however.

Or you could go on a Daily Mail-esque rant about it. Take your pick!
Posted by: mariner83, February 1, 2015, 8:17am; Reply: 3


Those pics look bad there - unplayable it is fair to say.

However, I wonder what the pitch looked like at 3pm, after 3 hours or so of better weather.

Surely it would have been better to call it off at 2pm if necessary - after all the Telford team were there by 12.30 or at least nearby, and their fans would also have already set off.

I am not blaming the club, because I think they took notice of the weather forecast, which not for the first time was incorrect. Not just for football reasons but the Met Office get right on my nerves with their inept forecasts.


Surely it's the referee who decides not the club?
Posted by: Les Brechin, February 1, 2015, 8:34am; Reply: 4
We never used to have this problem with the pitch, I was only saying at the last home game though that the pitch was looking a bit "rough".

I hope we get it sorted out and were not going to see more games called off if there is more rain in future weeks, It'll be ironic being out of The Trophy but getting a fixture pile-up because of the pitch,
Posted by: MeanwoodMariner, February 1, 2015, 8:43am; Reply: 5
Quoted from MarinerWY


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/who/accuracy/forecasts
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/in-depth/science-behind-probability-of-precipitation

Feel free to take up a degree and masters in maths or physics, followed by a doctorate in one of the specialised areas of meteorology, to try and improve our scientific understanding of weather patterns and our capacity to predict the weather and longer term climate.

Or you could go back to just not having any clue at all, and seeing what the weather is like when you leave the house. Probably be fine with the current UK based weather, not so handy for major disasters caused by extreme weather, however.

Or you could go on a Daily Mail-esque rant about it. Take your pick!


I choose the last option. I for one am sick of the Princess Diana hating immigrants stealing our weather and leaving us with heavy rain. Wouldn't have happened under Maggie.
Posted by: fishheadphil, February 1, 2015, 9:05am; Reply: 6
Doesn't the tide coming in push the water table  up in that area? Hence when the tide runs out it draws the water out from the pitch? Just thought I heard this somewhere about blundell park.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, February 1, 2015, 9:54am; Reply: 7
Suspect that the problem was frost still under the surface not letting the water through. It's not just about what's on top!
Posted by: ginnywings, February 1, 2015, 10:57am; Reply: 8
Jeez, It snowed, it melted, it rained heavily, the pitch quickly waterlogged, ref called it off, decision out of our hands, the end.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, February 1, 2015, 10:58am; Reply: 9
Quoted from MarinerWY


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/who/accuracy/forecasts
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/in-depth/science-behind-probability-of-precipitation

Feel free to take up a degree and masters in maths or physics, followed by a doctorate in one of the specialised areas of meteorology, to try and improve our scientific understanding of weather patterns and our capacity to predict the weather and longer term climate.

Or you could go back to just not having any clue at all, and seeing what the weather is like when you leave the house. Probably be fine with the current UK based weather, not so handy for major disasters caused by extreme weather, however.

Or you could go on a Daily Mail-esque rant about it. Take your pick!


I will go on a Daily Mail rant if that's ok with you.

A lot of what I do ( like a lot of others) depends on the weather and I am sick of them being wrong.

I haven't a clue, obviously as I am not a meteorologist, and like most people I have to see what the weather is like when I leave the house because I cannot trust the forecast!

Incidentally,I wonder what the pitch WAS like at kick off time?

And try not to be so sanctimonious when someone posts a view contrary to your own.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, February 1, 2015, 11:30am; Reply: 10


I will go on a Daily Mail rant if that's ok with you.

A lot of what I do ( like a lot of others) depends on the weather and I am sick of them being wrong.

I haven't a clue, obviously as I am not a meteorologist, and like most people I have to see what the weather is like when I leave the house because I cannot trust the forecast!

Incidentally,I wonder what the pitch was like at kick off time?

And try not to be so sanctimonious when someone posts a view contrary to your own.


Understand your frustration but, at this time of the year, one degree celsius can mean the difference between snow and rain, particularly when you are as close to the sea as we are. The snow yesterday morning was just big lumps of slush and you get very wet very quickly if you were out in them.
Posted by: Marinerz93, February 1, 2015, 11:59am; Reply: 11
Quoted from MuddyWaters
Suspect that the problem was frost still under the surface not letting the water through. It's not just about what's on top!


I would agree that the over night frozen temperature would have caused the ground to stop surface water draining away.

The club however, should have been able to brush off the excess surface water if they had acted earlier, we have managed it for decades even in worse winters.
Posted by: Civvy at last, February 1, 2015, 12:03pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from MarinerWY


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/who/accuracy/forecasts
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/in-depth/science-behind-probability-of-precipitation

Feel free to take up a degree and masters in maths or physics, followed by a doctorate in one of the specialised areas of meteorology, to try and improve our scientific understanding of weather patterns and our capacity to predict the weather and longer term climate.

Or you could go back to just not having any clue at all, and seeing what the weather is like when you leave the house. Probably be fine with the current UK based weather, not so handy for major disasters caused by extreme weather, however.

Or you could go on a Daily Mail-esque rant about it. Take your pick!


If the met office are not confident in their forecasts ( with good reason as you say), then why do they exist ?  Or why take up valuable airtime trying to tell us about depressions coming over the Atlantic resulting in 2cm of rain in Lower Biddlecombe etc??
Posted by: denni266, February 1, 2015, 12:04pm; Reply: 13
One thing i did notice is, on a piccy today it showed that the only covers where in the goal areas abour 7 yds by 10 yrds.. i dont realy class that as covering the pitch,  the other thing is, when asked , the fans are alwase happy to help clearing the pitch  when asked
Posted by: chaos33, February 1, 2015, 12:18pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from ginnywings
Jeez, It snowed, it melted, it rained heavily, the pitch quickly waterlogged, ref called it off, decision out of our hands, the end.


Exactly. Still, post after post and several threads debating the finer points of a f@cking waterlogged pitch like it was some kind of conspiracy or calamitous feat  of met office and club ineptitude.
Posted by: rancido, February 1, 2015, 12:27pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Civvy at last


If the met office are not confident in their forecasts ( with good reason as you say), then why do they exist ?  Or why take up valuable airtime trying to tell us about depressions coming over the Atlantic resulting in 2cm of rain in Lower Biddlecombe etc??



It's got nothing to do with " not being confident in their forecasts". Weather is a dynamic system that is prone to constant change. This is especially relevant to this country's geographical position. A weather front or depression only has to move 20 miles from it's predicted path to have a different affect on a specific part of the country. You can reasonably predict the path of rain or snow bearing clouds but not if they will with 100% certainty deposit their contents on a specific point. Surely it's better to have at least some indication of what the weather is likely to be than no idea at all!
As far as Lower Biddlecombe is concerned, if I lived there I would want to know if I was going to experience 2cm of rain. At least I could make the decision not to go for  walk unless I was wearing adequate waterproof clothing.
Posted by: grimsby pete, February 1, 2015, 1:25pm; Reply: 16
This was the first time we have had a game postponed because of the state of our pitch for years,

Lets just blame the ref and move on.
Posted by: ackomariner, February 1, 2015, 1:48pm; Reply: 17
What a cr@p thread this is
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, February 1, 2015, 1:59pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from ackomariner
What a cr@p thread this is


We are just discussing how disappointing it was to have a home game postponed when we were on the up, and we could/should have closed the gap with a win.Momentum means a lot, and it is a shame, but no more than that.

Nobody is disputing the fact that we can't beat the weather on occasions; my point on this thread is that the weather forecast hoodwinked the club into thinking there would be no problem - I think the heavy snow/sleet was forecast for later in the afternoon. By the time anyone realized there was going to be a problem it was too late to do anything about it, which is why I wondered whether the pitch would have been playable nearer kick off.  
Posted by: ginnywings, February 1, 2015, 2:47pm; Reply: 19
Even if the club had known exactly how much snow and rain would fall, what could they do about it? Someone mentioned Hulls game being on yesterday. They are in the Prem and have undersoil heating, allied with the latest and best drainage systems, underneath a pitch that is made up of the latest in grass technology, coupled with a fully functioning ground staff and probably a very expensive hot air balloon system for when it gets really cold.

We are in the Conference and have a bloke with a bucket of sand, a brush, a wheelbarrow and some plastic sheeting from Trotters Traders.
Posted by: LH, February 1, 2015, 2:49pm; Reply: 20
Let's not get bogged down with it.
Posted by: Caveman, February 1, 2015, 4:54pm; Reply: 21
There really are some moaning so-and-so's on this thread.

It's a pity they weren't living in New York last week.

Sack the mayor !
Posted by: Civvy at last, February 1, 2015, 5:34pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from MarinerWY


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/who/accuracy/forecasts
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/in-depth/science-behind-probability-of-precipitation

Feel free to take up a degree and masters in maths or physics, followed by a doctorate in one of the specialised areas of meteorology, to try and improve our scientific understanding of weather patterns and our capacity to predict the weather and longer term climate.

Or you could go back to just not having any clue at all, and seeing what the weather is like when you leave the house. Probably be fine with the current UK based weather, not so handy for major disasters caused by extreme weather, however.

Or you could go on a Daily Mail-esque rant about it. Take your pick!


I agree. The state of our pitch is entirely due to Daily Mail readers.

If only we had the tolerance to let 100 illegal immigrants work cash in hand (no income tax no NI) to clear the pitch it would have been fine.  Indeed, sack all the local workers associated with the club and replace them with anyone prepared to rape the benefit system and work for peanuts.
I await the torrent of red crosses from the 'hollier than thou' brigade
Posted by: AdamHaddock, February 1, 2015, 6:45pm; Reply: 23
I blame the EU for all the foreign gypo water that has invaded our pitch
Posted by: mariner tommy, February 1, 2015, 6:56pm; Reply: 24
I blame Lower Biddlecombe and the people who live there, we got their sleet and rain. They probably blew it this way.

Selfish Gits !!

UTM
Posted by: Tommy, February 1, 2015, 7:10pm; Reply: 25
I blame the Met Office for ITV Digital going bust.
Posted by: arryarryarry, February 1, 2015, 9:39pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from MuddyWaters
Suspect that the problem was frost still under the surface not letting the water through. It's not just about what's on top!


That is what the ref said.

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