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Quoted from grimsby pete

The one thing you can not call Hurst is MR MOTIVATOR ,

We should have been up for this game,

Over 7,000 at the Park playing our local rivals,

AND

We disappoint again(cursing)

I have said it before and I will say it again,

Hurst is too defence minded, he would rather win a boring 1-0 game than try to entertain.

Another season in the wilderness if he stays.

Think if we dont get the promotion this season Pete Hurst could be out.Nice guy but a possible fresh change would be needed

Quoted from Bruce Springsteen

You are a joke Hurst

Get a petition up, for christ sake how much more of this utter drivel is he going to be allowed to serve up?

Parslow, Mackreth, Clay, Nielsen all flipping rubbish.

Others turn up once every 4 weeks, not good enough, things have to change, and change now

We lost to a team today managed by a gas pipe layer but fair play to him he done us. Like the other years we just don't look like Crawley Fleetwood Luton which means play offs and probs more misery with brizzle being there

Quoted from Bruce Springsteen

You are a joke Hurst

Get a petition up, for christ sake how much more of this utter drivel is he going to be allowed to serve up?

Parslow, Mackreth, Clay, Nielsen all flipping rubbish.

Others turn up once every 4 weeks, not good enough, things have to change, and change now

Shut up

Quoted from Mariner Ronnie

Shut up

Why should he? He is right.

Quoted from ginnywings

Why should he? He is right.

No he's not.

No he is not right Toto was missed the best player in club injured early on in the match yes they were better we loose one match and the headhunters are out bloody mad

Poor display all round. Their players were a lot bigger than ours but they had pace as well. Having said that we are still in the driving seat as playoffs go. Now is the time for Fenty and Hurst to find that hairs on the back of your neck striker that just might help us scrape back into the league. John Still and others warned us on tv at the start of the season we needed another top striker, and if the penny hasn't dropped by now Hurst, then move on and lets get someone in that is going to knock on Fentys door and demand a top striker to get us out of this league.

Quoted from the driver

yes they were better we loose one match and the headhunters are out bloody mad

Well, TWO matches technically as they 'd out-muscled us and beat us once already this season, but yeah...

Quoted from Mariner Ronnie

Shut up

This is the arrogance on here that's not needed. Bruce has given a heartfelt view in a bit of a rage but has given it and that's how he feels. You could put your view over in a reasoned manner but choose to tell a fellow mariner to shut up;, can't even be bothered to give him more than 2 words. I'll tell you what then get on here and give a structured argument the other way or take your own advice.

I feel sorry for Shaun Pearson ,gives everything every week , if the same could be said for others .
Aimless punts up field to no one powder puff challenges ( especially down the left ) Worst game I've seen Thomas play was he flipping interested .Lincoln moved the ball fast and with pace ,once we scored we looked like we wanted to settle for the one goal and see the game out as per usual . As has already been mentioned Lincolns players bust a gut and most of ours looked like they had to much turkey . Then there's motivation ,or rather there isn't .

Quoted from the driver

No he is not right Toto was missed the best player in club injured early on in the match yes they were better we loose one match and the headhunters are out bloody mad

The fishy in its current glory I tend to call it, try and be positive and you get a belittled!

Quoted from promotion plaice

Poor display all round. Their players were a lot bigger than ours but they had pace as well. Having said that we are still in the driving seat as playoffs go. Now is the time for Fenty and Hurst to find that hairs on the back of your neck striker that just might help us scrape back into the league. John Still and others warned us on tv at the start of the season we needed another top striker, and if the penny hasn't dropped by now Hurst, then move on and lets get someone in that is going to knock on Fentys door and demand a top striker to get us out of this league.

As fenty got confidence in hurst spending his money?
But still was spot on and understands this level

Quoted from AlanPoutonsTackle

This is the arrogance on here that's not needed. Bruce has given a heartfelt view in a bit of a rage but has given it and that's how he feels. You could put your view over in a reasoned manner but choose to tell a fellow mariner to shut up;, can't even be bothered to give him more than 2 words. I'll tell you what then get on here and give a structured argument the other way or take your own advice.

That he does every time we lose!

Quoted from Vance Warner

Welcome back Bruce, it's been a while.

not been here since the last time we lost I would suspect

20 points dropped at home tells you all you need to know

It might well be over 30 by seasons end

That is unacceptable

I have always wether we win, lose or draw considered that I honestly don't believe Hurst will take us up. Not much different to when Scott was here we do tend to flatter to deceive at times, seem to get results to stay up there despite tailing off after Christmas. One thing I will always stand by is Hurst struggles to do anything with bottom half sides who are at the end of the day relatively poor . He seems to do better against the teams at the top end, but if this tide changes we are mid table. I sometimes think be careful what you wish for because we could get someone who is a mid table merchant. The question is do we risk that to try to get promoted, I think the answer is yes. Will Fenty do it I think the answer is No and in some ways its hard to blame him too much if you base it purely on league position.

Quoted from the driver

No he is not right Toto was missed the best player in club injured early on in the match yes they were better we loose one match and the headhunters are out bloody mad

Why should anybody listen to you, ?

Start getting the team to away games on time and we might. ;)

Quoted from Rick12

Think if we dont get the promotion this season Pete Hurst could be out.Nice guy but a possible fresh change would be needed

Couldn't agree more. A season too late though.

Thomas and Arnold were a shambles, especially in the second half! Arnold looks totally disinterested! Shame we're stuck with him! Thomas' defending was awful! Parslow is a jack of all trades, master of none!
Listening to Hurst, he thinks we played well! CLUELESS!!! :o

Pray, tell me who this miraculous, promotion guaranteeing, entertainment ensuring, gagging to manage Grimsby Town superhero we have lined up to replace Hurst as soon as he leaves?

Pacey wingers will always kill you and they did today on the other hand Arnold has not the pace to get away in fact we lack pace all over the pitch.

Quoted from WetFlannel

Pray, tell me who this miraculous, promotion guaranteeing, entertainment ensuring, gagging to manage Grimsby Town superhero we have lined up to replace Hurst as soon as he leaves?

Ask Bruce, he knows.

Quoted from gtfc82

Thomas and Arnold were a shambles, especially in the second half! Arnold looks totally disinterested! Shame we're stuck with him! Thomas' defending was awful! Parslow is a jack of all trades, master of none!
Listening to Hurst, he thinks we played well! CLUELESS!!! :o

Spot on, exactly as how I saw it. Hurst's views are remarkable, how can he think that was anything like a good performance?

Quoted from Rick12

Think if we dont get the promotion this season Pete Hurst could be out.Nice guy but a possible fresh change would be needed

Who is this Pete Hurst Bloke
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Quoted from WetFlannel

Pray, tell me who this miraculous, promotion guaranteeing, entertainment ensuring, gagging to manage Grimsby Town superhero we have lined up to replace Hurst as soon as he leaves?

Well lincoln are using a ex terrace lad\gas pipe fitter who as managed that big club Lincoln moorlands and today his tactics seemed better than ours SO surely there must be some one ? What about the guy managing clee town

Quoted from WetFlannel

Pray, tell me who this miraculous, promotion guaranteeing, entertainment ensuring, gagging to manage Grimsby Town superhero we have lined up to replace Hurst as soon as he leaves?

That is the job of the board, not the fans.

We are a big club in this league, yet struggle to show it on too many occasions.

I think Hurst is on damage limitation, that or he is as described, deluded. No doubt there will be a few hundred missing from that gutless performance which is considerably more than the odd one or two Hurst states may miss the Macc Lads.

You are a joke Bruce Springsteen

Quoted from ginnywings

That is the job of the board, not the fans.

We are a big club in this league, yet struggle to show it on too many occasions.

Is it the job of the board? Oh, okay. I guess they must be able to guess when they can get someone better in, or when it's the right time to sack him too if that's the case?

Quoted from GrimRob

You are a joke Bruce Springsteen

20 points dropped at home already ? I think he's spot on .
Once the 1 nil away wins dry up we're going to be lucky to get a chance to lose in the play off semis

Quoted from WetFlannel

Is it the job of the board? Oh, okay. I guess they must be able to guess when they can get someone better in, or when it's the right time to sack him too if that's the case?

Yes. That's the theory. They take ultimate responsibility.

Quoted from WetFlannel

Is it the job of the board? Oh, okay. I guess they must be able to guess when they can get someone better in, or when it's the right time to sack him too if that's the case?

I do not think the board will sack Hurst just yet,

They will wait until it is impossible for us to get promoted before they act,

I still think we will make the play offs because we do keep getting plenty of points from away games,

Plus a few at home,

The frustrating thing is we keep dropping points at home when we have convinced some of the doubters back to the park;

I do not fancy our chances against Bristol Rovers if we get them in the play offs,

Quoted from grimsby pete

I do not think the board will sack Hurst just yet,

They will wait until it is impossible for us to get promoted before they act,

I still think we will make the play offs because we do keep getting plenty of points from away games,

Plus a few at home,

The frustrating thing is we keep dropping points at home when we have convinced some of the doubters back to the park;

I do not fancy our chances against Bristol Rovers if we get them in the play offs,

We'd get absolutely slapped by brizzle over 2 legs !!

Said a long time ago that Hurst will not deliver promotion and I'm sat on holiday feeling sorry for those who still believe he can. The team are an embodiment of the manager, no passion and no clue.

FFS, I've read some poop in my time but folk are calling for the manager's head after a (probably predictable) defeat? The season's a marathon, not a sprint - sorry about the awful cliche but it is just that. Should Barnet sack their manager because Dover held them 2-2 at home today? Of course not. Should Macc sack their manager because they've now lost two on the trot?

Come on guys, I'm still of the opinion automatic promotion can be won. Criticise the team by all means, all long as it's noteworthy, but calling for the managers head because he's only won 8 out of the last 12 games? Lighten up.

The important bit is to beat the teams above you, too many players were not at it today and it showed, the team with the best defence in the league played like a team with the worst, no plan B though and there should be.
If we had drawn against Macca, and won today we would be happy bunnies but only one point better

Quoted from jock dock tower

FFS, I've read some poop in my time but folk are calling for the manager's head after a (probably predictable) defeat? The season's a marathon, not a sprint - sorry about the awful cliche but it is just that. Should Barnet sack their manager because Dover held them 2-2 at home today? Of course not. Should Macc sack their manager because they've now lost two on the trot?

Come on guys, I'm still of the opinion automatic promotion can be won. Criticise the team by all means, all long as it's noteworthy, but calling for the managers head because he's only won 8 out of the last 12 games? Lighten up.

I'd be very surprised if we got promotion at all unless something changes, let alone automatically. The players haven't got the balls to win the big games and don't have the guile to break down teams who defend en masse.

Quoted from GrimRob

You are a joke Bruce Springsteen

For having absolutely no faith in somebody that has underachieved season after season after season?

I bet there are a few more "jokers" in our town tonight not me though, I've been slagging off Hurst for several years now it's nice to be proved right

Quoted from Sussexmariner

For having absolutely no faith in somebody that has underachieved season after season after season?

I bet there are a few more "jokers" in our town tonight not me though, I've been slagging off Hurst for several years now it's nice to be proved right

If we win the play offs this season will he have underachieved?

Quoted from Garth

The important bit is to beat the teams above you, too many players were not at it today and it showed, the team with the best defence in the league played like a team with the worst, no plan B though and there should be.
If we had drawn against Macca, and won today we would be happy bunnies but only one point better

Happens at home too many times , in front of an expectant crowd . Cheaper forms of entertainment , they are loosing support , 220 mile round trip for for Emisar he isn't a happy bunny

Quoted from Sussexmariner

I've been slagging off Hurst for several years now it's nice to be proved right

Well done but one result doesn't prove anyone right or wrong. Some laughable comments from the knee jerk reaction brigade.

1) They players don't care - I've seen town teams that don;t care and this isn't one of them. Don;t forget we had a much more demanding game than Lincoln 48 hours ago.

2) We never turn up for the big games. Our record against top sides is better than the lower teams. Good performances in the cup last season were in front of big crowds.

3) We'll lose in the playoffs again - how can you be so sure? Our record against the top teams is far better than the last two seasons.

4) Hurst must be watching a different game - or maybe he refuses to criticise his players in the media.

Town fans have always been a fickle bunch (myself included) but it's getting a bit ridiculous. Welcome to the age of the keyboard football fan.

Quoted from Vance Warner

Well done but one result doesn't prove anyone right or wrong. Some laughable comments from the knee jerk reaction brigade.

1) They players don't care - I've seen town teams that don;t care and this isn't one of them. Don;t forget we had a much more demanding game than Lincoln 48 hours ago.

2) We never turn up for the big games. Our record against top sides is better than the lower teams. Good performances in the cup last season were in front of big crowds.

3) We'll lose in the playoffs again - how can you be so sure? Our record against the top teams is far better than the last two seasons.

4) Hurst must be watching a different game - or maybe he refuses to criticise his players in the media.

Town fans have always been a fickle bunch (myself included) but it's getting a bit ridiculous. Welcome to the age of the keyboard football fan.

Why did we have a more demanding game than lincoln? Fitness wasn't the problem today

Even the Lincoln fans are laughing at how stupid some of the comments on here are and I am laughing with them. These are the same people who were slating Lenny a few months ago.

Quoted from ackomariner

Why did we have a more demanding game than lincoln? Fitness wasn't the problem today

I disagree a little, there are some players of no fault of their own that were unfit today, not that it should be used as a main reason for losing

Quoted from Vance Warner

2) We never turn up for the big games. Our record against top sides is better than the lower teams. Good performances in the cup last season were in front of big crowds.

Can't agree with this. How many "big" games have we had this season? Today was the first in my opinion. The first time we've had a big crowd against an in form team who we have a bit of rivalry with and the team bottles it. We haven't played any of the top five at BP and it's too early in the season to claim they're "big" games.

Going away from home and playing teams in the cup who are above you in the leagues (the cup games) takes the pressure off you somewhat which is why we have got joy then. When you're expected to take the game to the opposition and to do so in front of a big, expectant crowd, Town invariably bottle it.

Quoted from Vance Warner

Well done but one result doesn't prove anyone right or wrong. Some laughable comments from the knee jerk reaction brigade.

This is not knee-jerk, this happens season after season, we WILL get into the play-offs, we WILL be beaten by a better side

So January approaches, does Fenty give Hurst more money to spend or invest in a manager with the nous to take us to the next level with the p layers we've already got? Gary Mills anyone?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

So January approaches, does Fenty give Hurst more money to spend or invest in a manager with the nous to take us to the next level with the layers we've already got? Gary Mills anyone?

Not for me thanks, will never happen anyway

Quoted from craigy

Loosing to your rivals is never acceptable in any sport

You'd carry more weight if could spell the fornicator!

Jason Paget

Quoted from Sussexmariner

This is not knee-jerk, this happens season after season, we WILL get into the play-offs, we WILL be beaten by a better side

Thanks Mystic Meg. Go and put your mortgage on it.

Quoted from Sussexmariner

For having absolutely no faith in somebody that has underachieved season after season after season?

I bet there are a few more "jokers" in our town tonight not me though, I've been slagging off Hurst for several years now it's nice to be proved right

No for sitting back on the sidelines and having nothing positive to say, ever. Anyone can keep quiet for weeks and then start a "told you so" thread every time we lose, which we are bound to from time to time. I don't regard this as the behaviour of a so-called supporter.

Quoted from jock dock tower

FFS, I've read some poop in my time but folk are calling for the manager's head after a (probably predictable) defeat? The season's a marathon, not a sprint - sorry about the awful cliche but it is just that. Should Barnet sack their manager because Dover held them 2-2 at home today? Of course not. Should Macc sack their manager because they've now lost two on the trot?

Come on guys, I'm still of the opinion automatic promotion can be won. Criticise the team by all means, all long as it's noteworthy, but calling for the managers head because he's only won 8 out of the last 12 games? Lighten up.

Not playing one dimensional hoof ball. Hurst believes playing the long ball at a lone striker is going to conquer most teams in this league. This policy has seen some success but as the season progresses we are going to come up against more teams that have sussed we have no plan B, consequently more results like today will become the norm.

I suppose it's a good sign that these "I told you we would lose a game sometime" threads are so rare nowadays.

Just seen his after match interview, he was having a laugh surely?

Quoted from Vance Warner

Thanks Mystic Meg. Go and put your mortgage on it.

It'll be a massive odds on price not worth the petrol money to get to the bookies

Nothing mystic meg about it, this season is panning out like the last 2. Tell me why this season will be any different?

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

I suppose it's a good sign that these "I told you we would lose a game sometime" threads are so rare nowadays.

I get bored of saying tbh. Could have predicted today, and the ensuing interview!

Quoted from the driver

No he is not right Toto was missed the best player in club injured early on in the match yes they were better we loose one match and the headhunters are out bloody mad

Toto was missed thats for sure but surely PH should know that Toto and Shaun always pick up loads of bookings and will miss games thus quality defensive cover is required and that is not Parslow at centre half and Doig would have been a better bet. I like Neilson but not on the right as he always goes inside and we lose our width, noth that Mckreth goes round his full back, and today his distribution was awful for the short period he played.

My concern is that after nearly four years in charge, apart from Disley, i do not believe Ph has made a real qualty signing for either centre midfield or wingers, players who perform now and again and flatter to deceive but not the quality required to get out this league.

We wont get out this league with hurst in charge , be lucky to get in the playoffs and get knocked out again

Quoted from Sussexmariner

It'll be a massive odds on price not worth the petrol money to get to the bookies

Nothing mystic meg about it, this season is panning out like the last 2. Tell me why this season will be any different?

Our record against the top teams is much better than in previous seasons. We have better players than we have had in previous seasons. We will play different teams than we have in previous seasons. Anything can happen in the play-offs. We might well get there and lose but then again we might win them. Nothing is guaranteed. If we don't go up this season then it will probably be time for a change but one defeat out of 3 games over xmas does not mean we need to give up hope

Quoted from Vance Warner

Town fans have always been a fickle bunch (myself included) but it's getting a bit ridiculous. Welcome to the age of the keyboard football fan.

The Fishy these days is becoming unbearable. A bit of perspective please everyone. We lost a game. Frustrating that it was against a big gate and Lincoln, but our last 10 games read:

6 wins, 2 losses and 2 draws.

Any club who sacks a manager when they're in the play-off spots (with a game in hand) and have those results from the last 10, deserves everything they get should it all go mammaries up.

Quoted from Vance Warner

Our record against the top teams is much better than in previous seasons. We have better players than we have had in previous seasons. We will play different teams than we have in previous seasons. Anything can happen in the play-offs. We might well get there and lose but then again we might win them. Nothing is guaranteed. If we don't go up this season then it will probably be time for a change but one defeat out of 3 games over xmas does not mean we need to give up hope

So the only thing that hasn't changed is Hurst..... And there lays the problem

Quoted from MarinerWY

The Fishy these days is becoming unbearable. A bit of perspective please everyone. We lost a game. Frustrating that it was against a big gate and Lincoln, but our last 10 games read:

6 wins, 2 losses and 2 draws.

Any club who sacks a manager when they're in the play-off spots (with a game in hand) and have those results from the last 10, deserves everything they get should it all go mammaries up.

The perspective should come from when we get big gates it should be grasped by the players as a chance to bring more people back to BP. Higher gates = better revenue, but we fail every time and now the gate will be well down for New Years day. How many times do our players bottle playing at home to what would have been 3 times the gate elsewhere (apart from a couple of teams).

If we maintain the 12 point gap, 9 if we win our game in hand on Barnet we will be in the lottery of play off's. Hurst has form for not bringing in the required players in Jan for us to go up as play off winners.

A few additions are blatantly required or it is another year in the dog and duck league with the Gimps.

the worrying thing is lincoln who are now 4 points of the play offs look the better team to go up than us, we are shoddy and bottled it twice against these now. Tell you now and Ive said this all along will float in this division for seasons because mr fickle carnt pick the right man to manage the team and bring the best out them, he's happy with hurst who will just keep us near or there and flop at the last push. We aint a threat to anyone in this league and in reality we should be!

Fed up grimsby fan

It's not just about the results. It's the inevitability that we will be close but never close enough. Every time we have a chance to shine and a chance to make ground on the leaders, we blow it. Winning away 1-0 and dropping 20 points at home will not get any sort of buzz around the place. Yesterday, the ground was nearly full, we were 1-0 up, yet it was like a morgue. Why?

Hurst is why. His teams play with the brakes on. Hurst brakes as my brother calls them. Look how many men they had piling into the box for their goals and wingers who were taking on and beating the full backs. Contrast that to us. At one point when chasing the game, Lenny got away down the left and hoisted the ball into the box. Only the tiny Makreth was in there.

We are slow and ponderous and it's a very pragmatic, safety first approach. That is what i don't like about us and that is why i will be happy when Hurst has gone. I'd rather we failed to go up playing attacking football, than have to watch that bilge all season and still fail to go up as is the norm.

If others are happy with he way things are, then fine, i'm pleased for you, but i'm out.

Why do people who have stopped supporting the side take such an unhealthy interest in sniping from the sidelines? If you have stopped attending games, fine, that's your choice, but can't you just leave the club alone to those who wish to support it?

Quoted from Tony_GTFC

Why do people who have stopped supporting the side take such an unhealthy interest in sniping from the sidelines? If you have stopped attending games, fine, that's your choice, but can't you just leave the club alone to those who wish to support it?

Most are still hoping things may change I would imagine , for me Ginnys last post is spot on .
I am 10 mins from BP but may well stay away on NYD because it's frustrating to watch . Saw some "expert " on sky last night praising the never say die attitude shown by burnley yesterday , when asked if the attitude comes from the manager , he replied "always ! The teams attitude Always reflects that of the man in charge "
I tend to agree , certainly as far as our team/manager is concerned .

Quoted from ginnywings

It's not just about the results. It's the inevitability that we will be close but never close enough. Every time we have a chance to shine and a chance to make ground on the leaders, we blow it. Winning away 1-0 and dropping 20 points at home will not get any sort of buzz around the place. Yesterday, the ground was nearly full, we were 1-0 up, yet it was like a morgue. Why?

Hurst is why. His teams play with the brakes on. Hurst brakes as my brother calls them. Look how many men they had piling into the box for their goals and wingers who were taking on and beating the full backs. Contrast that to us. At one point when chasing the game, Lenny got away down the left and hoisted the ball into the box. Only the tiny Makreth was in there.

We are slow and ponderous and it's a very pragmatic, safety first approach. That is what i don't like about us and that is why i will be happy when Hurst has gone. I'd rather we failed to go up playing attacking football, than have to watch that bilge all season and still fail to go up as is the norm.

If others are happy with he way things are, then fine, i'm pleased for you, but i'm out.

In a nutshell mate, we are no threat to no-one not even in lower leagues all because of the negativity tactics of mr hurst.

Everyone frustrated that Lincoln have done us twice with a simple system - play fast, be physical, get every 2nd ball.

How many chances saved or kicked off the line yesterday, so the approach play was right, it was the goalscoring that was wrong !

Two first half injuries to key players as well, Toto's inevitable suspension as well - all factors that Hurst can use to say we did enough but had bad luck.

So, what does Hannah have to do to get on the field, and why is the Rotherham loan speedster not playing on one wing?

Players carrying knocks / illness will always be found out in a hectic local derby where boots are flying.

Scott Brown's loss of form is a really big factor for me - he and Clay together in good form are the backbone that helped earlier in the season - that's what is needed back.... and soon !!

Quoted from Tony_GTFC

Why do people who have stopped supporting the side take such an unhealthy interest in sniping from the sidelines? If you have stopped attending games, fine, that's your choice, but can't you just leave the club alone to those who wish to support it?

Maybe it's not all sniping? Any threads/posts with the word 'clown' are skimmed over by me but Ginny's posts amongst others are nearly always spot on and mirror almost exactly my thinking. There's unnecessary and insulting criticism and there's well balanced and constructive criticism, not always in equal measure maybe but this is a discussion forum, I do't see why people who have stopped attending games stay should also stay away from the forums. I'd like threads to stay on topic and non-insulting though.

Quoted from RoboCod

Maybe it's not all sniping? Any threads/posts with the word 'clown' are skimmed over by me but Ginny's posts amongst others are nearly always spot on and mirror almost exactly my thinking. There's unnecessary and insulting criticism and there's well balanced and constructive criticism, not always in equal measure maybe but this is a discussion forum, I do't see why people who have stopped attending games stay should also stay away from the forums. I'd like threads to stay on topic and non-insulting though.

After yesterdays attendance i think far more supporters are staying away from message boards rather than matches ;)

Quoted from BIGChris

After yesterdays attendance i think far more supporters are staying away from message boards rather than matches ;)

I'm trying to stay away from both. :-/ BUT..

.. I don't walk out of the Fishy minus £18,

I think Mariner Ronnie could be Paul Hurst or related ;D

Quoted from Tony_GTFC

Why do people who have stopped supporting the side take such an unhealthy interest in sniping from the sidelines? If you have stopped attending games, fine, that's your choice, but can't you just leave the club alone to those who wish to support it?

You will always get those who moan and complain regardless of position or form. One thing to bear in mind is that people still care deeply for our club. Frustration in some poor performances are rising to the surface again, why, because things aren't changing

1. Players are still bottling it in front of big crowds
2. A Manager who has form for not bringing in players in Jan who can take us forward.
3. The inevitable reach the play off's but fail.

When people stop moaning, this the real time for concern because that's when people stop caring!

Don't worry we will have a stronger squad next season.

Quoted from acko338

Everyone frustrated that Lincoln have done us twice with a simple system - play fast, be physical, get every 2nd ball.

How many chances saved or kicked off the line yesterday, so the approach play was right, it was the goalscoring that was wrong !

Two first half injuries to key players as well, Toto's inevitable suspension as well - all factors that Hurst can use to say we did enough but had bad luck.

So, what does Hannah have to do to get on the field, and why is the Rotherham loan speedster not playing on one wing?

From the text commentary it seemed like there were a lot of "great saves" by the Lincoln keeper, and we were hamstrung by the loss of the more quality players such as Magnay.

Don't know about the Rotherham speedster, but Hannah could do with coaching on the Offiside rule.

Quoted from Marinerz93

You will always get those who moan and complain regardless of position or form. One thing to bear in mind is that people still care deeply for our club. Frustration in some poor performances are rising to the surface again, why, because things aren't changing

1. Players are still bottling it in front of big crowds
2. A Manager who has form for not bringing in players in Jan who can take us forward.
3. The inevitable reach the play off's but fail.

When people stop moaning, this the real time for concern because that's when people stop caring!

This!
You really have to be insensitive if you are not disappointed with the result yesterday, and the vast majority of posters on here care hence the moans, would you want a message board like most in this league that have little to say, or a one man show like Joules the imp God Bless Him

Quoted from mike_d

From the text commentary it seemed like there were a lot of "great saves" by the Lincoln keeper, and we were hamstrung by the loss of the more quality players such as Magnay.

Don't know about the Rotherham speedster, but Hannah could do with coaching on the Offiside rule.

Great saves or poor finishing? Most shots were tame and straight at the keeper. No composure.

For the record, i haven't stopped going completely and my problem is not so much with the results as the whole playing philosophy at the club under Hurst. I am a paying customer and have the right to withdraw my support as i see fit. I have been blindly following for the last ten years of mostly failure, when others i know have stopped long ago.

Maybe everyone has a different point at which they get to the end of their tether. As i have said, if you are happy with the footy at BP, then that's fine and dandy by me.

Highcliff pointed out the reference to Burnley and i was thinking exactly the same as i watched MOTD last night. Positive team with a positive manager can go a long way.

Quoted from BIGChris

After yesterdays attendance i think far more supporters are staying away from message boards rather than matches ;)

Lets see what the gate is on Thursday,

If we had won against Lincoln I bet it would have been 5,500 to 6 ,000,

Now I can see it being 3,500.

Quoted from 4055

I think Mariner Ronnie could be Paul Hurst or related ;D

I'm sure Paul hurst is sensible enough to not come or post on here ;)

FWIW, I havent attended since Southport at home as I got to the point where I could no longer support Mr Hurst and his dull, negative, one dimensional football. The lack of a Plan B has been evident for a considerable amount of time and whilst I appreciate this is a results business, its patently obvious that in terms of tactics and nouse to get out of this division, nothing has changed since last season although being an average Sunday league manager Im sure Im not the best placed to moan about lack of tactical nouse (before anyone who knows who I am starts!! ;-) )

As much as it pains me to stay away, I cannot support the manager and therefore choose to spend my Saturday afternoons with the family rather than spend my hard earned money (some might argue that point ;-) ) leaving the ground more frustrated and considerably less entertained than when I arrived. Yes, twiddling my thumbs on the walk to the ground was invariably more exciting than the fare served up itself at BP.

If we are to get out of this league, it will not be under Mr Hurst stewardship of that Im sure and that is why I whole heartedly advocate a change of manager - which is the same position I have advocated all season (although not overly vocally on here)

However, if come April Im proved wrong, Ill be delivghted as a Grimsby Town fan and will come back on here and congratulate the team and Mr Hurst on their achievements, I just wont be there to see it as Im not a hypocrite.

UTM

It would be pointless to remove the manager just now, it's too late to affect this season because it would take too long to get a replacement unless it was an internal one.

I don't think there is any chance of Town going up as champions and it would be a massive struggle to win the play offs. Personally I am resigned to another Conference season next year. I hope not but the omens don't look good. We will perhaps know more after the next two games.

The biggest snag I can see is that we could reach the play offs, lose again, and some people will see this as success. The old chestnuts about budgets, doing as well as we can expect, who else could we get and he's a good manager getting 3 play offs in a row - these will all come back again.

We could end up with no change, plus the other argument from last year that PH should be given the close season and a dozen matches. So in December 2015 we could very easily be in exactly the same situation as we are now.

If I'm wrong, and I sincerely hope I am, then PH will deserve much credit and I'll be happy to join in with that. Realistically though..............

Quoted from Paul62

Not playing one dimensional hoof ball. Hurst believes playing the long ball at a lone striker is going to conquer most teams in this league. This policy has seen some success but as the season progresses we are going to come up against more teams that have sussed we have no plan B, consequently more results like today will become the norm.

I can only assume you weren't at the game. We didn't play "the long ball at a lone striker"

Quoted from Mariner Ronnie

I'm sure Paul hurst is sensible enough to not come or post on here ;)

do you mean like his boss :X

Quoted from denni266

We wont get out this league with hurst in charge , be lucky to get in the playoffs and get knocked out again

Just out of interest do you have this particularly scintillating comment on a template that you can just slot into any thread that is going on?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

It would be pointless to remove the manager just now, it's too late to affect this season because it would take too long to get a replacement unless it was an internal one.

I don't think there is any chance of Town going up as champions and it would be a massive struggle to win the play offs. Personally I am resigned to another Conference season next year. I hope not but the omens don't look good. We will perhaps know more after the next two games.

The biggest snag I can see is that we could reach the play offs, lose again, and some people will see this as success. The old chestnuts about budgets, doing as well as we can expect, who else could we get and he's a good manager getting 3 play offs in a row - these will all come back again.

We could end up with no change, plus the other argument from last year that PH should be given the close season and a dozen matches. So in December 2015 we could very easily be in exactly the same situation as we are now.

If I'm wrong, and I sincerely hope I am, then PH will deserve much credit and I'll be happy to join in with that. Realistically though..............

good post agree with all of that and id love hurst to get us up BUT i very much doubt it, remember it took luton a few goes to get it right

I'd be amazed if Town don't go up this year if Paul Hurst is still in charge pre 2015/16 season.

I'd be more amazed if we do go up

Quoted from blasty

FWIW, I havent attended since Southport at home as I got to the point where I could no longer support Mr Hurst and his dull, negative, one dimensional football. The lack of a Plan B has been evident for a considerable amount of time and whilst I appreciate this is a results business, its patently obvious that in terms of tactics and nouse to get out of this division, nothing has changed since last season although being an average Sunday league manager Im sure Im not the best placed to moan about lack of tactical nouse (before anyone who knows who I am starts!! ;-) )

As much as it pains me to stay away, I cannot support the manager and therefore choose to spend my Saturday afternoons with the family rather than spend my hard earned money (some might argue that point ;-) ) leaving the ground more frustrated and considerably less entertained than when I arrived. Yes, twiddling my thumbs on the walk to the ground was invariably more exciting than the fare served up itself at BP.

If we are to get out of this league, it will not be under Mr Hurst stewardship of that Im sure and that is why I whole heartedly advocate a change of manager - which is the same position I have advocated all season (although not overly vocally on here)

However, if come April Im proved wrong, Ill be delivghted as a Grimsby Town fan and will come back on here and congratulate the team and Mr Hurst on their achievements, I just wont be there to see it as Im not a hypocrite.

UTM

I'm surprised Dave. Never had you down as a fair-weather fan!

Your team is for life, you support them through thick and thin. Admittedly is been very bloody thin for far too long now but we've seen the good times in the past and if you were to just pick a team who were doing well at the time you'd be changing your team every other week.

Quoted from Les Brechin

I'm surprised Dave. Never had you down as a fair-weather fan!

Your team is for life, you support them through thick and thin. Admittedly is been very bloody thin for far too long now but we've seen the good times in the past and if you were to just pick a team who were doing well at the time you'd be changing your team every other week.

Very simplisitc view Les but I respect you and you are fully entitled to your opinion, so Ill not engage in an argument :-)

But FWIW, GTFC are and will always be my club regardless of whether I choose to attend the game or not, despite some peoples definition of a supporter meaning you continue to blindly donate cash on a matchday regardless.

UTM

Quoted from blasty

Very simplisitc view Les but I respect you and you are fully entitled to your opinion, so Ill not engage in an argument :-)

But FWIW, GTFC are and will always be my club regardless of whether I choose to attend the game or not, despite some peoples definition of a supporter meaning you continue to blindly donate cash on a matchday regardless.

UTM

You know me Dave, I have a simplisitc (sic) view on everything in life. ;)

Quoted from barralad

Just out of interest do you have this particularly scintillating comment on a template that you can just slot into any thread that is going on?

nope. its just how i feel and one or two wins wont change my mind,, i am consistant even if i cnt spell it

At 1-0 the place was like a morgue yes. There were a number of a chances when people around me where saying we'd be getting irate if we were at 0-0 and they were getting those chances. Most teams at 1-0 will either press for another one or try and hold the fort until half/full-time - I'm unsure what the tactic was or whether there was one in the final fifteen minutes of the first half, we didn't threaten the Lincoln goal and we weren't really getting men back and shutting Lincoln out.

Quoted from Jaws

At 1-0 the place was like a morgue yes. There were a number of a chances when people around me where saying we'd be getting irate if we were at 0-0 and they were getting those chances. Most teams at 1-0 will either press for another one or try and hold the fort until half/full-time - I'm unsure what the tactic was or whether there was one in the final fifteen minutes of the first half, we didn't threaten the Lincoln goal and we weren't really getting men back and shutting Lincoln out.

Don't know how anyone can disagree with this assessment but maybe that's because it was just how I saw it too

It was almost as if we'd settled for it being 1-0 and that was how it was going to be, no matter what, which as we know to our cost, wasn't the case

I said at the time that we needed to up it and try to see them off first half but we don't seem to have that in our make up

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Don't know how anyone can disagree with this assessment but maybe that's because it was just how I saw it too

It was almost as if we'd settled for it being 1-0 and that was how it was going to be, no matter what, which as we know to our cost, wasn't the case

I said at the time that we needed to up it and try to see them off first half but we don't seem to have that in our make up

If we score 1st I think Hurst's mind set is to hold on to it rather than go for another,

On the other hand if we go one down we seem to up our game,

Why don't we up our game from the off, I ask.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If we score 1st I think Hurst's mind set is to hold on to it rather than go for another,

On the other hand if we go one down we seem to up our game,

Why don't we up our game from the off, I ask.

There you have it in a nutshell Pete

At 1-0 there is always the chance of a freak goal coming along ( and as good as their equaliser was, it was totally an out of the blue strike , unlikely to be repeated ) but we seemed content to let the 1st half just peter out

Had that gone to plan I guess most of us would have been satisfied with a lead at half time but had we gone for the jugular after scoring a relatively early goal we'd probably have taken the three points without too much of a struggle

I think a little perspective is needed - I must admit I didn''t go on boxing day (I was at Macc on boxing day). I'm much more positive about town maybe it's because I attend as many away matches as I do home matches.

However this Hurst sniping is ludicrous:

we have lost 3 out of last 17 matches.
We are sitting in 4th place, 4 points in the play offs with a game in hand on those outside.
We have the fourth biggest budget in the league and we are sitting fourth in the league.
Of the championship winning sides while we have been down here all have had bigger budgets than us.

We are doing as well as can be reasonable expected. The best football I've seen from town since we've been down here was in the second season when we finished eleventh. Yes we are more boring now but we pick up more points.

There are some criticisms I do go along with. Bignot and Mackraith are rubbish and we need to replace (Why didn't Doig play?). I would like us to improve our set plays which are distinctly average. I also think Pittman and Shop are too similar (and not clinical enough).

Losing to Lincoln is annoying but if we beat Macc on new years day we will have picked 9 points from 12 in the xmas period which would be excellent.