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Posted by: GrimRob, November 17, 2014, 11:44am
In a sequel to Old Football Grounds how many of these old nations have you seen England play (on TV). I reckon I have seen at least five.

Aden      
British Guiana      
British Honduras      
British India      
Bohemia      
Burma      
Central African Republic      
Ceylon      
Commonwealth of Independent States      
Congo-Kinshasa      
Congo-Brazzaville      
Czechoslovakia      
Dahomey      
Dutch East Indies      
East Germany      
Gold Coast      
Ireland (not ROI)
Netherlands Antilles      
New Hebrides      
North Borneo      
North Vietnam      
North Yemen      
Northern Rhodesia      
Palestine, British Mandate      
Romania      
Rhodesia      
Saar      
Serbia and Montenegro      
Siam      
Southern Rhodesia      
South Vietnam      
South Yemen      
Soviet Union      
Sudan      
Suriname      
Tanganyika      
Taiwan      
United Arab Republic      
Upper Volta      
West Germany      
Western Samoa      
Yugoslavia      
Posted by: barralad, November 17, 2014, 12:14pm; Reply: 1
Christ Rob,

The England v North Borneo game would have been a sell out...

BTW Why is Romania in there?
Posted by: pizzzza, November 17, 2014, 12:14pm; Reply: 2
Pretty sure we have played only a handful of those so I doubt anyone could beat your five Rob!
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, November 17, 2014, 12:32pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from barralad
Christ Rob,

The England v North Borneo game would have been a sell out...

BTW Why is Romania in there?


Because we used to spell it Rumania? ;)

Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, November 17, 2014, 12:43pm; Reply: 4
Anyone we played in the World Cup or Euros will have been on TV so my list would include

W Germany
USSR
E Germany
Czechoslovakia
Serbia&Montenego
Romania?
Yugoslavia

There was also a Rest Of The World international that I think was broadcast in 1963 as part of the FA Centenary.
Posted by: Mariner Ronnie, November 17, 2014, 12:59pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from barralad
Christ Rob,

The England v North Borneo game would have been a sell out...

BTW Why is Romania in there?


Why are Sudan and Central African republic in there also?
Posted by: Abdul19, November 17, 2014, 1:02pm; Reply: 6
As an avid viewer of Pointless I can confirm Central African Republic is definitely an existing nation!
Posted by: Mariner Ronnie, November 17, 2014, 1:05pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Abdul19
As an avid viewer of Pointless I can confirm Central African Republic is definitely an existing nation!


I would hazard a guess that it was supposed to be Central African empire, a nation that no longer exists
Posted by: GrimRob, November 17, 2014, 1:30pm; Reply: 8
The list came from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIFA_country_codes

It says:

"The following codes are obsolete because a country has ceased to exist, changed its name, changed its code, or has become part of another country."

I guess some of them have changed their code
Posted by: grimsby pete, November 17, 2014, 1:53pm; Reply: 9
Anyone we played in the World Cup or Euros will have been on TV so my list would include

W Germany
USSR
E Germany
Czechoslovakia
Serbia&Montenego
Romania?
Yugoslavia

There was also a Rest Of The World international that I think was broadcast in 1963 as part of the FA Centenary.


Also being an old git, I have seen all of the above,

I might have seen more but can not remember,

BUT

I do watch a lot of football.

Posted by: pizzzza, November 17, 2014, 3:08pm; Reply: 10
Anyone we played in the World Cup or Euros will have been on TV so my list would include

W Germany
USSR
E Germany
Czechoslovakia
Serbia&Montenego
Romania?
Yugoslavia

There was also a Rest Of The World international that I think was broadcast in 1963 as part of the FA Centenary.



I don't remember us ever playing East Germany???
Posted by: grimsby pete, November 17, 2014, 3:11pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from pizzzza



I don't remember us ever playing East Germany???


We beat them 3-1 in 1970 and 1-0 in 1984.
Posted by: grimsby pete, November 17, 2014, 3:20pm; Reply: 12
I have just checked and we also played them in East Germany in 1963 winning 2-1,

AND

In 1974 drawing 1-1

I think I watched them all.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, November 17, 2014, 3:54pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from pizzzza



I don't remember us ever playing East Germany???


We never played them in a competition but I seem to think we did have friendlies as warm ups for the Euros & World Cup. I can remember the 1970 and 1984 games being shown, probably only as highlights though.

Posted by: biggles9999, November 17, 2014, 4:47pm; Reply: 14
Didnt Nigel Martyn make his debut against the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in about 1992?
Posted by: pizzzza, November 17, 2014, 4:59pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from biggles9999
Didnt Nigel Martyn make his debut against the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in about 1992?


Possibly, it was the ex Soviet states wasnt it.
Posted by: jock dock tower, November 17, 2014, 5:47pm; Reply: 16
England have definitely played both Southern and Northern Rhodesia, albeit whether they are classed as full internationals for the purpose of earning a cap I'm not 100% sure.

The list you have there Rob misses out many teams that England, or more commonly the Football Association on tour, have played - especially in Africa / South Africa like Griqualand West, Natal Province and the orange Free State. I used to have a number of programmes involving "England" in Africa in the 1950's, and they can still be picked up relatively cheaply, usually for between £15 to £20 each.
Posted by: barralad, November 17, 2014, 8:53pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from jock dock tower
England have definitely played both Southern and Northern Rhodesia, albeit whether they are classed as full internationals for the purpose of earning a cap I'm not 100% sure.

The list you have there Rob misses out many teams that England, or more commonly the Football Association on tour, have played - especially in Africa / South Africa like Griqualand West, Natal Province and the orange Free State. I used to have a number of programmes involving "England" in Africa in the 1950's, and they can still be picked up relatively cheaply, usually for between £15 to £20 each.


I can hear it now. Give us a Geeeeeee.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, November 18, 2014, 10:02pm; Reply: 18
I bet Pete listened to the game against Saar on the wireless. Shortly before the Hun took it back again.
Posted by: grimsby pete, November 18, 2014, 10:04pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from KingstonMariner
I bet Pete listened to the game against Saar on the wireless. Shortly before the Hun took it back again.


Now then  :P
Posted by: GrimRob, November 19, 2014, 12:38pm; Reply: 20
I extracted the full list of games we have played from EnglandStats.com. Unfortunately they are only in country codes, but here are the 87 different countries we have played, and the number of times for each one

SCO     112
WAL     101
IRE     61
NIR     37
FRA     29
BRA     25
ITA     25
SWE     24
ESP     23
SUI     23
HUN     22
POR     22
BEL     21
DEN     19
NED     19
POL     19
AUT     18
FRG     16
IRL     15
ARG     14
YUG     14
GER     13
NOR     12
TCH     12
FIN     11
ROU     11
URS     11
URU     11
BUL     10
TUR     10
USA     10
GRE     9
LUX     9
MEX     9
CRO     7
UKR     7
AUS     6
CHI     6
COL     5
SMR     5
ALB     4
AND     4
CMR     4
GDR     4
ISR     4
MDA     4
MKD     4
MNE     4
ECU     3
EGY     3
EST     3
FIFA     3
JPN     3
MLT     3
PAR     3
PER     3
SVK     3
SVN     3
AZE     2
BLR     2
CYP     2
CZE     2
GEO     2
ISL     2
KAZ     2
KSA     2
LIE     2
MAR     2
NGA     2
NZL     2
RSA     2
RUS     2
TRI     2
TUN     2
ALG     1
BOH     1
CAN     1
CHN     1
CIS     1
CRC     1
GHA     1
HON     1
JAM     1
KOR     1
KUW     1
MAS     1
SCG     1
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