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Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, October 6, 2014, 10:31am
The furore of a new stadium seems to come in debs and drabs. I am presuming there is no further news on this but, wouldn't it make sense for updates as to what's going on?

Where do we stand in the whole process at the moment and what are the timescales that have been outlined?

Reason I ask is that my local club, gloucester city, seem to have the backing of everyone and regular updates are kept in the local rag.
Posted by: Garth, October 6, 2014, 10:41am; Reply: 1
Apart from a few thousand in and around the area most people are either indifferent or downright against anything appertaining to GTFC, therefore backing and publicity are as real as rocking horse sh1t
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, October 6, 2014, 12:30pm; Reply: 2
Can a furore come in dribs (or debs) and drabs?
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, October 6, 2014, 12:58pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from Rodley Mariner
Can a furore come in dribs (or debs) and drabs?


:-/

iPad!
Posted by: grimsby pete, October 6, 2014, 3:43pm; Reply: 4
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Where do we stand in the whole process at the moment and what are the timescales that have been outlined?

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Come back and ask again in ten years. :B

Posted by: 75 (Guest), October 6, 2014, 3:48pm; Reply: 5
New ground? We can't even afford a striker from Solihull Moors?!!!!!
Posted by: biggles9999, October 6, 2014, 4:17pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from 75
New ground? We can't even afford a striker from Solihull Moors?!!!!!


It's been quoted many times that we could afford him. Solihull accepted our transfer offer, but Bogle said no because he didn't want to leave the area.

It might even be a similar story to that with Reeves.
Posted by: 75 (Guest), October 6, 2014, 4:21pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from biggles9999


It's been quoted many times that we could afford him. Solihull accepted our transfer offer, but Bogle said no because he didn't want to leave the area.

It might even be a similar story to that with Reeves.


I haven't seen that via any official medium. Seriously, if we can't tempt a player to leave Solihull to play for us we should give up.
Posted by: Garth, October 6, 2014, 4:30pm; Reply: 8
If thats true it should be mentioned by the clubs spokesman so we can at least understand
Posted by: wodewick, October 6, 2014, 4:46pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from 75


I haven't seen that via any official medium. Seriously, if we can't tempt a player to leave Solihull to play for us we should give up.


Thought we had.
Posted by: The Old Codger, October 6, 2014, 4:51pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from 75


I haven't seen that via any official medium. Seriously, if we can't tempt a player to leave Solihull to play for us we should give up.


We did last Tuesday.
Posted by: fishkeeper, October 6, 2014, 5:53pm; Reply: 11
New ground jesus that's the best joke  ;D ;D ;D ;D I have heard in ages  mind you saying that theres more chance of that than getting a new proven high scoring striker
Posted by: looneytunes, October 6, 2014, 8:34pm; Reply: 12
if you have to jump throughthe hoops that brentford had to it could be a while but then again grimsby may be different to london with all red tape etc
Posted by: KingstonMariner, October 7, 2014, 12:19am; Reply: 13
I think, looney tunes, that there are ironically more opportunities for a club like Brentford to get a new ground. Even though Grimsby is half surrounded by countryside. (I'm assuming you're a Bees fan so forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know). Grimsby's new ground will depend on getting enough money for the site of their old ground, and plenty of money from any associated commercial development with the new ground. There is not that much demand for land in a place like Grimsby for building, so receipts for Blundell Park will not be that big, and there aren't as many willing partners for the new development as any London club would have.

I must say, we have had our fair share of Nimby arguments, including ones as bizarre as the ones Brentford faced from the Kew side of the bridge.
Posted by: Theimperialcoroner, October 7, 2014, 12:40am; Reply: 14
Got to say I was impressed with Dartfords ground on Saturday. A (much) larger version would be perfect. Especially with the option to walk around the ground, made for a better match day experience (to quote modern bolloxspeak, a version of newspeak if you like).
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, October 7, 2014, 12:43am; Reply: 15
Knock all the high rise flats down, knock all freemo down, and build a new community stadium and new complex of shops, flats and housing there.

A mini Tottenham project.

Straight off the M180 still plus the railway is really close, no fathing about, get Grimsby Town to work alongside the Council, Shoreline, and developers, and help the whole area.

Imagine Freeman Street looking something like this!  That's what you call regeneration!

[img]http://i.imgur.com/9NX4JZe.jpg[/img]
Posted by: Maringer, October 7, 2014, 7:22am; Reply: 16
Erm, parking spaces for anyone?

London clubs such as Spurs, Arsenal et al don't need to consider much in the way of parking areas for fans visiting from both the local area and away as they are located right in the centre of the biggest (publicly-funded) transportation nexus in the country. How much of the Freeman Street/local area would need to be set aside for parking? Also, the A180 is the only road in and out of town so congestion before and after a match would be a real problem, especially in the summer months.

Not to mention the fact that Spurs (and London as a whole) has just a little bit more money to spend on things than Grimsby. Spurs have paid much more for a number of individual players than it would cost to buy our club lock, stock and barrel and build a new stadium somewhere, including the cost of the land!

Additionally, knocking down the high-rise flats, other flats in the surrounding area and many existing businesses down Freeman Street would displace how many people? To where? How many compulsory purchase orders required and who would pay for them? I know they plan to level the high-rise flats in any case, but it seems a poorly thought out idea to me, especially as there is pretty much no support for anything GTFC-related on the council.
Posted by: DocTower, October 7, 2014, 7:39am; Reply: 17
. We either throw caution to the wind and go for something we ALL have been wanting for well over 50 years . Remember FA Would was willing to sell Cambridge Rd  in Grimsby for a new site . Or we stay and rebuild what we have . Yes problems with both but not submountable . It woud just stop this endless , are we aren't we will we  won't we .
It's almost a red herring detracting from the real problem whats going on with Town
Posted by: ginnywings, October 7, 2014, 7:53am; Reply: 18
New ground?

Like the promise of league football, i won't be holding my breath.
Posted by: scrumble, October 7, 2014, 8:30am; Reply: 19
Quoted from Maringer
Erm, parking spaces for anyone?


Parking is hardly a major selling point of BP, anything would be better than what we have now

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Also, the A180 is the only road in and out of town so congestion before and after a match would be a real problem, especially in the summer months.


The current proposal would have traffic join the A180 just the other side of the flyover, just one junction down. Blundell Park itself is on the end of it. The Freemo site would probably be better as it would go straight on to the A180, and could have new traffic controls to help flow.



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Additionally, knocking down the high-rise flats, other flats in the surrounding area and many existing businesses down Freeman Street would displace how many people? To where? How many compulsory purchase orders required and who would pay for them? I know they plan to level the high-rise flats in any case, but it seems a poorly thought out idea to me, especially as there is pretty much no support for anything GTFC-related on the council.


If you haven't seen the GET lately they are already talking about knocking down the high rise flats anyway. TBH I think building it there is better than the current idea. It has better transport links and, if thought out properly by the council (ok, stop laughing), could be tied in with rejuvenating freeman street.
Posted by: Maringer, October 7, 2014, 9:01am; Reply: 20
I did actually mention that I have seen the plans to level the high-rise flats and you quoted the part of my post which noted this.  ;)

I wasn't keen on the Great Coates site (selfishly as it is miles away from my home in Clee), but I think the current plan for one near to Peaks Parkway isn't bad. The community aspects of the proposal are good (from the little I've read) and the chances of moving there seem much better than any other options which have been mooted.

I understand the concept of a new stadium in a redeveloped Freeman Street area but the funding for such a massive redevelopment simply doesn't exist in the current climate. The council has no money so couldn't back it. The club has no money so couldn't fund it. The government has continued to ratchet back capital spending unless it is something high profile as HS2 (the exact opposite of what should have been done following a recession, naturally). Most importantly, I can't imagine any large property developers willing to make the huge investment required for such a scheme in an impoverished small northern town such as our own. There just isn't the money to be made here when they can just find bits of land to build small housing estates in the south east or on the outskirts of major cities and get guaranteed and quick returns.
Posted by: DocTower, October 7, 2014, 11:48am; Reply: 21
Quoted from Maringer
I did actually mention that I have seen the plans to level the high-rise flats and you quoted the part of my post which noted this.  ;)

I wasn't keen on the Great Coates site (selfishly as it is miles away from my home in Clee), but I think the current plan for one near to Peaks Parkway isn't bad. The community aspects of the proposal are good (from the little I've read) and the chances of moving there seem much better than any other options which have been mooted.

I understand the concept of a new stadium in a redeveloped Freeman Street area but the funding for such a massive redevelopment simply doesn't exist in the current climate. The council has no money so couldn't back it. The club has no money so couldn't fund it. The government has continued to ratchet back capital spending unless it is something high profile as HS2 (the exact opposite of what should have been done following a recession, naturally). Most importantly, I can't imagine any large property developers willing to make the huge investment required for such a scheme in an impoverished small northern town such as our own. There just isn't the money to be made here when they can just find bits of land to build small housing estates in the south east or on the outskirts of major cities and get guaranteed and quick returns.


Seems we're doomed then .
Goodnight god bless .
Posted by: psgmariner, October 7, 2014, 12:12pm; Reply: 22
In Rugby Union Wasps are about to move to Coventry's Ricoh Arena. That's quite trek for any of there fans who live in London or Wycombe (where they currently play).

Perhaps we should just move our franchise to somewhere with a nice stadium?
Posted by: Abdul19, October 7, 2014, 12:44pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from psgmariner

Perhaps we should just move our franchise to somewhere with a nice stadium?


Darlington?
Posted by: The Old Codger, October 7, 2014, 12:47pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Abdul19


Darlington?


Boston? Last seasons most prolific strikers already there ;)
Posted by: tashee69, October 7, 2014, 1:44pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Nelly GTFC
Knock all the high rise flats down, knock all freemo down, and build a new community stadium and new complex of shops, flats and housing there.

A mini Tottenham project.

Straight off the M180 still plus the railway is really close, no fathing about, get Grimsby Town to work alongside the Council, Shoreline, and developers, and help the whole area.

Imagine Freeman Street looking something like this!  That's what you call regeneration!

[img]http://i.imgur.com/9NX4JZe.jpg[/img]


I always had the impression that the football club is more of a nuisance to the council, especially a particular councillor, who in my opinion would protest about us trying to get a ground anywhere we wanted, even if it was in London.
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