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Posted by: Zmariner, September 14, 2014, 1:45pm
I have been a staunch PH fan. I am now apathetic and even with, as ever, a season ticket I find it harder and harder to go.
1.Yesterday when I saw Disley and Mclauglin starting I wanted a bet as I was absolutely certain we would lose. These two do not often play together in a wining team - not creative and too slow
One is out of position and the other has lost form and needs a fresh challenge. It is unlikely to get better and Dis has been great for us but I think we are done.
2.Pitman limped off - it was only when, was anybody surprised?
3. We have no left back?
3a Even right back is not great
4.A challenging team with 3 strikers!! and Hannah is a non event for me, Lenny a grafter and I respect him. I would rather have paid Cook and Southwell than sign an injury prone player.
5 Outside of Macreth this teams lacks pace

In short I look at my points and they are mostly managerial decisions,I think that I have answered my own question. I will keep going out of loyalty but my apathy is growing and 100% I will keep my season ticket each season but will I turn up it we are not challenging at this level.
Not a prayer
UTM
Posted by: jonnyboy82, September 14, 2014, 1:52pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from Zmariner
I have been a staunch PH fan. I am now apathetic and even with, as ever, a season ticket I find it harder and harder to go.
1.Yesterday when I saw Disley and Mclauglin starting I wanted a bet as I was absolutely certain we would lose. These two do not often play together in a wining team - not creative and too slow
One is out of position and the other has lost form and needs a fresh challenge. It is unlikely to get better and Dis has been great for us but I think we are done.
2.Pitman limped off - it was only when, was anybody surprised?
3. We have no left back?
3a Even right back is not great
4.A challenging team with 3 strikers!! and Hannah is a non event for me, Lenny a grafter and I respect him. I would rather have paid Cook and Southwell than sign an injury prone player.
5 Outside of Macreth this teams lacks pace

In short I look at my points and they are mostly managerial decisions,I think that I have answered my own question. I will keep going out of loyalty but my apathy is growing and 100% I will keep my season ticket each season but will I turn up it we are not challenging at this level.
Not a prayer
UTM


so another who has turned.

wish the abuse some of us got on here for wanting him gone last season was worth it.

the thing what pisses me off is we have good players but paul cant seem to consistently get performances out of them.

I am 100% sure if something is not done now then we will be seeing 2000 fans and us sitting in 12th place or lower by Christmas.

the 2 performances over the bank holiday makes me even more bitter as I really thought we had something but he has drained that right out of me...cheers paul.
Posted by: chaos33, September 14, 2014, 2:09pm; Reply: 2
The aspects that anger me the most are these:

We've played 9 games only, and we've already lost 3. We've failed to beat some very poor/everage conference teams at home and we have lost our unbeaten home status with less than one month of the season played.

We are already 10 points off the leaders who look to have the credentials, and there are at least half a dozen other clubs who look to have the quality and consistency to mount a challenge.

We have just been comfortably dismantled at home by a promotion rival, and you just know that there's no way we could have done that to them at their place.

Teams that win the title lose no more than half a dozen games or so across the course of the season. We've alreday lost half that amount before September's out.

Another thumping looks likely in the next game with a further very difficult-looking away game to follow.

Home crowds are already declining and the knives are out, making it more difficult and more unpleasant for every one.

We've got square pegs in round holes and players out of position regularly. We've seemingly abandoned (or forgotten) our combative, high energy style that brought victories and we can't seem to decide what formation we're playing.

The obvious fact that we were short of a quality striker has now well and truly smashed us in the face. You've got the manager praying that his 'non-finishing favourite' is fit asap just so we can have some sort of a forward line, even though we were all given a stark reminder about our missing quality in midweek. Could that situation get any more desparate?!  I mean, the manager has had so long to address that. Now he needs two loans in two days. Get real.

We're now in a situation where it's excuses time. Already.

As Sean Connery once said: "Losers make excuses, whilst winners go out and f**k the prom queen".

It's a sorry state of affairs it really is.
Posted by: Meza, September 14, 2014, 2:17pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from chaos33
The aspects that anger me the most are these:

We've played nine games only, and we've already lost 3. We've failed to beat some very poor/everage conference teams at home and we have lost our unbeaten home status with less than one month of the season played.

We are already 10 points off the leaders who look to have the credentials, and there are at least half a dozen other clubs who look to have the quality and consistency to mount a challenge.

We have just been comfortably dismantled at home by a promotion rival, and you just know that there's no way we could have done that to them at their place.

Teams that win the title lose no more than half a dozen games or so across the course of the season. We've alreday lost half that amount before September's out.

Another thumping looks likely in the next game with a further very difficult-looking away game to follow.

Home crowds are already declining and the knives are out, making it more difficult and more unpleasant for every one.

We've got square pegs in round holes and players out of position regularly. We've seemingly abandoned (or forgotten) our combative, high energy style that brought vistories and we can't seem to decide what formation we're playing.

The obvious fact that we were short of a quality striker has now well and truly smashed us in the face. You've got the manager praying that his 'non-finishing favourite' is fit asap just so we can have some sort of a forward line, even though we were all given a stark reminder about our missing quality in midweek. Could that situation get any more desparate?!  I mean, the manager has had so long to address that. Now he needs two loans in two days. Get real.

We're now in a situation where it's excuses time. Already.

As Sean Connery once said: "Losers make excuses, whilst winners go out and f**k the prom queen".

It's a sorry state of affairs it really is.



Taken from the Rock lol
Posted by: hook line and sinker, September 14, 2014, 2:22pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Zmariner
I have been a staunch PH fan. I am now apathetic and even with, as ever, a season ticket I find it harder and harder to go.
1.Yesterday when I saw Disley and Mclauglin starting I wanted a bet as I was absolutely certain we would lose. These two do not often play together in a wining team - not creative and too slow
One is out of position and the other has lost form and needs a fresh challenge. It is unlikely to get better and Dis has been great for us but I think we are done.
2.Pitman limped off - it was only when, was anybody surprised?
3. We have no left back?
3a Even right back is not great
4.A challenging team with 3 strikers!! and Hannah is a non event for me, Lenny a grafter and I respect him. I would rather have paid Cook and Southwell than sign an injury prone player.
5 Outside of Macreth this teams lacks pace

In short I look at my points and they are mostly managerial decisions,I think that I have answered my own question. I will keep going out of loyalty but my apathy is growing and 100% I will keep my season ticket each season but will I turn up it we are not challenging at this level.
Not a prayer
UTM


paddy should be played alongside brown in the middle of the park,these 2 are in my opinion the 2 best footballers at the club,playing him out wide to accommodate disley is ridiculous  
Posted by: MuddyWaters, September 14, 2014, 2:26pm; Reply: 5
I normally go to 12-15 games a season mostly after September for various reasons. There's a run of games coming up that I would normally be looking forward to but can't raise the enthusiasm to come and my lad isn't bothered either.

We show all the signs of a club going nowhere and, like others, was fearful that the Bank Holiday weekend was a flash-in-the-pan. Hurst has had time, money and the backing of the board/chairman/custodian and he seems to have run out of ideas like many have run out of patience.
Posted by: barralad, September 14, 2014, 4:16pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from MuddyWaters
I normally go to 12-15 games a season mostly after September for various reasons. There's a run of games coming up that I would normally be looking forward to but can't raise the enthusiasm to come and my lad isn't bothered either.

We show all the signs of a club going nowhere and, like others, was fearful that the Bank Holiday weekend was a flash-in-the-pan. Hurst has had time, money and the backing of the board/chairman/custodian and he seems to have run out of ideas like many have run out of patience.


I honestly didn't realise that your strong opinions are based on not actually having seen the team play :-/
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, September 14, 2014, 5:43pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from chaos33
The aspects that anger me the most are these:

We've played nine games only, and we've already lost 3. We've failed to beat some very poor/everage conference teams at home and we have lost our unbeaten home status with less than one month of the season played.

We are already 10 points off the leaders who look to have the credentials, and there are at least half a dozen other clubs who look to have the quality and consistency to mount a challenge.

We have just been comfortably dismantled at home by a promotion rival, and you just know that there's no way we could have done that to them at their place.

Teams that win the title lose no more than half a dozen games or so across the course of the season. We've alreday lost half that amount before September's out.

Another thumping looks likely in the next game with a further very difficult-looking away game to follow.

Home crowds are already declining and the knives are out, making it more difficult and more unpleasant for every one.

We've got square pegs in round holes and players out of position regularly. We've seemingly abandoned (or forgotten) our combative, high energy style that brought vistories and we can't seem to decide what formation we're playing.

The obvious fact that we were short of a quality striker has now well and truly smashed us in the face. You've got the manager praying that his 'non-finishing favourite' is fit asap just so we can have some sort of a forward line, even though we were all given a stark reminder about our missing quality in midweek. Could that situation get any more desparate?!  I mean, the manager has had so long to address that. Now he needs two loans in two days. Get real.

We're now in a situation where it's excuses time. Already.

As Sean Connery once said: "Losers make excuses, whilst winners go out and f**k the prom queen".

It's a sorry state of affairs it really is.



Exactly so. I think I'll employ you to write my posts. Save me a lot of effort. ;D

Posted by: MeanwoodMariner, September 14, 2014, 6:10pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from chaos33
We've seemingly abandoned (or forgotten) our combative, high energy style that brought vistories


This is the strangest aspect for me. The high tempo pressing game is not easy, but it appeared we had assembled a team that could do it well. Where did it go??
Posted by: DocTower, September 14, 2014, 6:19pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from barralad


I honestly didn't realise that your strong opinions are based on not actually having seen the team play :-/


I miss about 5 games a season due to holidays and other bits . Old Codger is allowed his opinions as he does come to watch town when they have warmed up . It's persons like my neighbour an armchair supporter who really pee me off . Telling me how we have played but never getting down himself to watch . He is the one who's opinon should be ignored .

Too many of us are saying the same thing , something is wrong , something needs to be changed . All we can do is voice our opinon , and respect their views . I don't abuse players but would rather give constructive criticism  .
Posted by: gaz57, September 14, 2014, 6:21pm; Reply: 10
Imagine turning up for work and the boss tells you that you did a great job just to turn up next time and be told your not needed. Imagine being told by the boss to do your job in a certain way and the next time he's changed his mind. Then imagine being employed to do a job your good at only to be given a different job all the time when it's not necessary. I think you would be well and truly drunk off.  Welcome to life as a Grimsby Town player.
Posted by: Stevie Saunders, September 14, 2014, 6:52pm; Reply: 11
I feel totally deflated after the Lincoln and Torquay defeats
Convinced we have a better squad than last season but again players been played in wrong positions is affecting us badly
I just knew Disley (who I've always been a big fan of but is now quiet clearly on the wane) woudl play v Lincoln and then again yesterday; why?
Clay, Brown and Paddy had been playing excellently... what sort of message did it send to Clay to drop him at Lincoln?
I know Disley scored but......

Injuries are not Hurst's fault

We are now in the sh*te with only a handful of games gone

I've been a big supporter of Hurst believing that continuity was/is important and his record while at GTFC is pretty good - play offs, Wembley etc

I now feel indifferent if he was sacked I'm afraid

Posted by: MuddyWaters, September 14, 2014, 6:54pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from DocTower


I miss about 5 games a season due to holidays and other bits . Old Codger is allowed his opinions as he does come to watch town when they have warmed up . It's persons like my neighbour an armchair supporter who really pee me off . Telling me how we have played but never getting down himself to watch . He is the one who's opinon should be ignored .

Too many of us are saying the same thing , something is wrong , something needs to be changed . All we can do is voice our opinon , and respect their views . I don't abuse players but would rather give constructive criticism  .


Ta  ;)
Posted by: barralad, September 14, 2014, 8:46pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from DocTower


I miss about 5 games a season due to holidays and other bits . Old Codger is allowed his opinions as he does come to watch town when they have warmed up . It's persons like my neighbour an armchair supporter who really pee me off . Telling me how we have played but never getting down himself to watch . He is the one who's opinon should be ignored .

Too many of us are saying the same thing , something is wrong , something needs to be changed . All we can do is voice our opinon , and respect their views . I don't abuse players but would rather give constructive criticism  .


At no point in that post did I say he wasn't allowed his opinion-I genuinely thought that they were based on what he had seen....

Actually I might save myself some cash and do the same....how do you quantify "when they've warmed up? :)
Posted by: Richard, September 14, 2014, 9:00pm; Reply: 14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUAeAS8iUUY

quoted by sir bobby robson  
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, September 14, 2014, 9:37pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Stevie Saunders
I feel totally deflated after the Lincoln and Torquay defeats
Convinced we have a better squad than last season but again players been played in wrong positions is affecting us badly
I just knew Disley (who I've always been a big fan of but is now quiet clearly on the wane) woudl play v Lincoln and then again yesterday; why?
Clay, Brown and Paddy had been playing excellently... what sort of message did it send to Clay to drop him at Lincoln?
I know Disley scored but......

Injuries are not Hurst's fault

We are now in the sh*te with only a handful of games gone

I've been a big supporter of Hurst believing that continuity was/is important and his record while at GTFC is pretty good - play offs, Wembley etc

I now feel indifferent if he was sacked I'm afraid



Think you've got a bit mixed up SS

It was Paddy who was dropped at Lincoln for Disley to come in and then Disley played yesterday because of the injury Clay picked up at Lincoln
Posted by: Stevie Saunders, September 14, 2014, 9:47pm; Reply: 16
sodomist - got mixed up cos I'm so deflated and I was there as well!
Point still applies to Paddy though - felt sorry for him cos he'd been playing really well
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, September 15, 2014, 12:35pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Stevie Saunders
sodomist - got mixed up cos I'm so deflated and I was there as well!
Point still applies to Paddy though - felt sorry for him cos he'd been playing really well


Fully understand...been a long week for us all where Town are concerned

Seems someone isn't so understanding though giving you a red x

Where's WTF when you need him   ;)
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